Re: physicians

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Jessie writes; " I don't disagree with your point about the importance of

qualitative and quantitative data. It's just that I spend my life trying to

educate people (I am a diabetes educator) and the patients are a piece of cake

compared to the physicians. Most of them are very biased towards the scientific

method. I try to combine poignant stories that capture the essence of an

experience for the patient with real data but mostly they just want the facts. "

Tell me about it. I am currently conducting a course which exposes college

instructors to facilitation methods -- NOT an easy audience since most of them

deal with " hard " skills and knowledge. (I'm an Adult Educator). Definitely not

receptive to becoming more learner-centred at first, but when gently reminded of

the reasons they are in their position as instructors in the first place, they

usually come around.

As for physicians I believe they need " gentle reminding " sometimes about the

human

side of what they are doing. They need to know that how we feel is as much a

part

of this business of being overweight as anything else. In fact, for many of us,

it

is the story. Our emotions are inextricably tied to our eating and the end

result

are those facts and figures they love so much. NOT an easy sell though, I agree

a

hundred per cent.

Lori

MB, Can

Http://www.Lori.Herod.com

Jessie H. Ahroni wrote:

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>

> Lori: I don't disagree with your point about the importance of

> qualitative and quantitative data. It's just that I spend my life

> trying to educate people (I am a diabetes educator) and the patients are

> a piece of cake compared to the physicians. Most of them are very

> biased towards the scientific method. I try to combine poignant stories

> that capture the essence of an experience for the patient with real data

> but mostly they just want the facts.

>

> Dorit makes a good point: You can't teach people when they already

> think they know it all.

>

> Janet: What a great wish. To covert to eating like a normal person. I

> too would like that.

>

> Barbara: You are right. I probably won't post my story - or it will be

> a very edited version if the website is open to the public. I don't mind

> the few people who have called me to discuss the band but I can see

> where that could get to be a hassle. Even though onelist is " public " I

> feel like only people who are interested will pursue this list. Anyone

> can stumble into a public webpage. I am not sure I am that open.

> Besides I get way more out of belonging to this list than I contribute.

>

> Nice discussion on internet privacy. A general rule is if you don't

> want everybody (and I mean EVERYBODY) to know you shouldn't post it

> because once you write it down it is OUT OF YOUR CONTROL. I don't

> really care who reads my stuff. I feel like I have nothing to hide and

> I am not a very secretive person. Of course I haven't been stalked YET

> either.

>

> Terri: 1 ml = 1 cc -- Dr. Fox told me the band actually holds 30 cc

> before danger of rupturing but it is rarely filled more than 7. We

> should post our fill amounts with our heights and weights. Of course

> after awhile you are not really sure how much you have because you put

> in a little, take a little out -- it gets mixed up. The Swedish bands

> are different. Ask him these questions and tell us what he says.

>

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