Guest guest Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 LINK CorrectionThe first link was bringing in extra characters -- here is the correct link sorry! http://www.cranialtech.com/medicalinfo/assessment/scaphocephaly.pdf------- Original Message -------From : [mailto:tnt@...]Sent : 3/8/2008 11:31:12 PMTo : Plagiocephaly Cc : Subject : RE: Greta PicturesHi Marcy:I was one of the people who mentoned the word scaphocephalic (long and narrow). Of course this varies in severity! But from the top pictures you just posted, she does have an oval shape -- "long" -- verses a rounded shape. Which tends to be the words scaphocephalic or dolichocephalic, when describing it, or the term prominet occiput is sometimes used in this description as well, or on its own. But her head is no where near what my son's was in terms of length, and he indeed was breech. The front picture of her with the slight indentations at the temple area were also what my son had for awhile. As I mentioned before -- the prominet occiput is just that, the back of the head jutting back a little bit --- obviously, if it is getting better, then you are doing all of the right things! And I do see some difference from Feb. to March. Keep re positioning her off of her flat sides, and I suggest a mini boppy or a towel behind her neck to support her. This will help to put pressure on the back of the head, and keep her from laying flat on either side - kind of a reverse repositioning. And of course, get assessed when you are ready.Take a look at the Cranial Technologies severity assessment page for a scaphocephalic head shape --&nbs p; http://www.cranialtech.com/medicalinfo/assessment/scaphocephaly.pdf you will see several drawings, from different angles, and to me, some are similar to Greta's in terms of its shape. Hers is much less long, and may be a 1 or a 2. My son's was a 4 from all angles. This link takes you to the first part of the assessment page, where you can find links to plagiocephaly and brachycephaly assessments too, if you want to see them. http://www.cranialtech.com/medicalinfo/identifyplagio.htmlI hope this clears things up a bit.Take care.>------- Original Message ------->From : marcyeiseman[mailto:marcyeiseman@...]>Sent : 3/8/2008 11:14:45 AM>To : Plagiocephaly >Cc : >Subject : RE: Greta Pictures>>Hey Yall...I posted some more pics of Greta, showing the sides of her head.(look under babies G) I rememember someone on here telling me about her son, and how long his head was, he had scaphocephaly...I am not sure that Greta has this-her head isnt long? Its just prominant in the back("prominent occiput") and actually looking a bit better:)What do y'all think?Maybe I am wrong? Also, wouldnt the doctors have menti oned scaphocephaly?By the way, Greta was not breech, and had a very short labor, 5 hrs total, 10 min pushing...I wonder how her head got like this???Also, how long do you guys think I should wait before going over to Cranial Tech in NJ? I was thinking I should wait til about 5 months old?Have a great Saturday!For more plagio info, go to www.plagioc ephaly.org/support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Hey Thanks for all of your information! I went to that page, and her face does look like some of the descriptions...I have her sleeping on her belly at night, hopefully that is what is helping her head! I have a question for all moms out there...Greta's "soft spot" in the front of her head is sooooo small..does that matter? I just got back from my friends house, her baby is one week older than Greta(but 4 weeks premature) and he has a HUGE "soft spot"...I know I just saw a neurosurgeon and all, he would have pointed that out, right? Or maybe size doesnt matter? Just as long as there is a gap, no matter how small? Thanks, Have a good night! ~marcy RE: Greta Pictures Hi Marcy:I was one of the people who mentoned the word scaphocephalic (long and narrow). Of course this varies in severity! But from the top pictures you just posted, she does have an oval shape -- "long" -- verses a rounded shape. Which tends to be the words scaphocephalic or dolichocephalic, when describing it, or the term prominet occiput is sometimes used in this description as well, or on its own. But her head is no where near what my son's was in terms of length, and he indeed was breech. The front picture of her with the slight indentations at the temple area were also what my son had for awhile. As I mentioned before -- the prominet occiput is just that, the back of the head jutting back a little bit --- obviously, if it is getting better, then you are doing all of the right things! And I do see some difference from Feb. to March. Keep re positioning her off of her flat sides, and I suggest a mini boppy or a towel behind her neck to support her. This will help to put pressure on the back of the head, and keep her from laying flat on either side - kind of a reverse repositioning. And of course, get assessed when you are ready.Take a look at the Cranial Technologies severity assessment page for a scaphocephalic head shape -- http://www.cranialt ech.com/medicali nfo/assessment/ scaphocephaly. pdf you will see several drawings, from different angles, and to me, some are similar to Greta's in terms of its shape. Hers is much less long, and may be a 1 or a 2. My son's was a 4 from all angles. This link takes you to the first part of the assessment page, where you can find links to plagiocephaly and brachycephaly assessments too, if you want to see them. http://www.cranialt ech.com/medicali nfo/identifyplag io.htmlI hope this clears things up a bit.Take care.>------- Original Message ------->From : marcyeiseman[ mailto:marcyeise man (DOT) com]>Sent : 3/8/2008 11:14:45 AM>To : Plagiocephaly>Cc : >Subject : RE: Greta Pictures>>Hey Yall...I posted some more pics of Greta, showing the sides of her head.(look under babies G) I rememember someone on here telling me about her son, and how long his head was, he had scaphocephaly. ..I am not sure that Greta has this-her head isnt long? Its just prominant in the back("prominent occiput") and actually looking a bit better:)What do y'all think?Maybe I am wrong? Also, wouldnt the doctors have menti oned scaphocephaly? By the way, Greta was not breech, and had a very short labor, 5 hrs total, 10 min pushing...I wonder how her head got like this???Also, how long do you guys think I should wait before going over to Cranial Tech in NJ? I was thinking I should wait til about 5 months old?Have a great Saturday!For more plagio info, go to www.plagiocephaly. org/support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Forgive me for posting this correction 2 times, I'm doing this from the website, but my first correction hasn't come through yet, and it's been a few hours. I am not sure the first link will work if people just click on it, when I tested it, there were extra characters in the url, which made the link not work. The clean link is http://www.cranialtech.com/medicalinfo/assessment/scaphocephaly.pdf also -- I mentioned that my son's score was " 4 " , but the score was from 0-3. So his was a 3. The other two I mentioned are still correct. Ok... going to sleep now. take care. > > > > Hi Marcy: > I was one of the people who mentoned the word scaphocephalic (long and narrow). Of course this varies in severity! But from the top pictures you just posted, she does have an oval shape -- " long " -- verses a rounded shape. Which tends to be the words scaphocephalic or dolichocephalic, when describing it, or the term prominet occiput is sometimes used in this description as well, or on its own. But her head is no where near what my son's was in terms of length, and he indeed was breech. > > The front picture of her with the slight indentations at the temple area were also what my son had for awhile. As I mentioned before -- the prominet occiput is just that, the back of the head jutting back a little bit --- obviously, if it is getting better, then you are doing all of the right things! And I do see some difference from Feb. to March. Keep repositioning her off of her flat sides, and I suggest a mini boppy or a towel behind her neck to support her. This will help to put pressure on the back of the head, and keep her from laying flat on either side - kind of a reverse repositioning. And of course, get assessed when you are ready. > > Take a look at the Cranial Technologies severity assessment page for a scaphocephalic head shape -- http://www.cranialtech.com/medicalinfo/assessment/scaphocephaly.pdf > > you will see several drawings, from different angles, and to me, some are similar to Greta's in terms of its shape. Hers is much less long, and may be a 1 or a 2. My son's was a 4 from all angles. > > This link takes you to the first part of the assessment page, where you can find links to plagiocephaly and brachycephaly assessments too, if you want to see them. > http://www.cranialtech.com/medicalinfo/identifyplagio.html > > I hope this clears things up a bit. > Take care. > > > > >------- Original Message ------- > >From : marcyeiseman[mailto:marcyeiseman@...] > >Sent : 3/8/2008 11:14:45 AM > >To : Plagiocephaly > >Cc : > >Subject : RE: Greta Pictures > > > >Hey Yall...I posted some more pics of Greta, showing the sides of her > head.(look under babies G) I rememember someone on here telling me > about her son, and how > long his head was, he had scaphocephaly...I am not sure that Greta has > this-her head isnt long? Its just prominant in the back( " prominent > occiput " ) and actually looking a bit better:) > What do y'all think? > Maybe I am wrong? Also, wouldnt the doctors have mentioned > scaphocephaly?By the way, Greta was not breech, and had a very short > labor, 5 hrs total, 10 min pushing...I wonder how her head got like > this??? > Also, how long do you guys think I should wait before going over to > Cranial Tech in NJ? I was thinking I should wait til about 5 months old? > Have a great Saturday! > > > > For more plagio info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 My understanding of the soft spot is that there is a " normal " for ever child. If there was a concern, the neuro would have had you come back to see what the change between the 2 appts. was. I would ask your ped. at the next appt. though since it is something you've noticed. > > Hey Thanks for all of your information! I went to that page, and her face does look like some of the descriptions...I have her sleeping on her belly at night, hopefully that is what is helping her head! > I have a question for all moms out there...Greta's " soft spot " in the front of her head is sooooo small..does that matter? I just got back from my friends house, her baby is one week older than Greta (but 4 weeks premature) and he has a HUGE " soft spot " ...I know I just saw a neurosurgeon and all, he would have pointed that out, right? Or maybe size doesnt matter? Just as long as there is a gap, no matter how small? > Thanks, Have a good night! > ~marcy > > > RE: Greta Pictures > > > > Hi Marcy: > I was one of the people who mentoned the word scaphocephalic (long and narrow). Of course this varies in severity! But from the top pictures you just posted, she does have an oval shape -- " long " -- verses a rounded shape. Which tends to be the words scaphocephalic or dolichocephalic, when describing it, or the term prominet occiput is sometimes used in this description as well, or on its own. But her head is no where near what my son's was in terms of length, and he indeed was breech. > > The front picture of her with the slight indentations at the temple area were also what my son had for awhile. As I mentioned before -- the prominet occiput is just that, the back of the head jutting back a little bit --- obviously, if it is getting better, then you are doing all of the right things! And I do see some difference from Feb. to March. Keep re positioning her off of her flat sides, and I suggest a mini boppy or a towel behind her neck to support her. This will help to put pressure on the back of the head, and keep her from laying flat on either side - kind of a reverse repositioning. And of course, get assessed when you are ready. > > Take a look at the Cranial Technologies severity assessment page for a scaphocephalic head shape -- http://www.cranialt ech.com/medicali nfo/assessment/ scaphocephaly. pdf > > you will see several drawings, from different angles, and to me, some are similar to Greta's in terms of its shape. Hers is much less long, and may be a 1 or a 2. My son's was a 4 from all angles. > > This link takes you to the first part of the assessment page, where you can find links to plagiocephaly and brachycephaly assessments too, if you want to see them. > http://www.cranialt ech.com/medicali nfo/identifyplag io.html > > I hope this clears things up a bit. > Take care. > > > > >------- Original Message ------- > >From : marcyeiseman[ mailto:marcyeise man (DOT) com] > >Sent : 3/8/2008 11:14:45 AM > >To : Plagiocephaly > >Cc : > >Subject : RE: Greta Pictures > > > >Hey Yall...I posted some more pics of Greta, showing the sides of her > head.(look under babies G) I rememember someone on here telling me > about her son, and how > long his head was, he had scaphocephaly. ..I am not sure that Greta has > this-her head isnt long? Its just prominant in the back( " prominent > occiput " ) and actually looking a bit better:) > What do y'all think? > Maybe I am wrong? Also, wouldnt the doctors have menti oned > scaphocephaly? By the way, Greta was not breech, and had a very short > labor, 5 hrs total, 10 min pushing...I wonder how her head got like > this??? > Also, how long do you guys think I should wait before going over to > Cranial Tech in NJ? I was thinking I should wait til about 5 months old? > Have a great Saturday! > > > > For more plagio info, go to www.plagiocephaly. org/support > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 Hi Marcy -Glad you were able to look at the sheet with all of the different headviews (top, side, front) on it - sorry for the broken link in the original post.Did you end up getting xrays or a CT scan when you saw the neurosurgeon? Just wondering. I couldn't remember if that had been something you were going to do, and the neuro said that there wasn't a need -- or if they were done before you went to the neuro. If your friend's child was a premie that possibly might affect how large the softspot is. You might ask your pediatrician, or the neurosurgeon, about some of the things you have concerns about -- like the soft spot, and why this particular headshape might happen when you had a typical birth - no c-section - no breech baby. Good luck with everything. ------- Original Message -------From : marcy eiseman[mailto:marcyeiseman@...]Sen t : 3/9/2008 2:00:12 AMTo : Plagiocephaly Cc : Subject : RE: Re: Greta Pictures Hey Thanks for all of your information! I went to that page, and her face does look like some of the descriptions...I have her sleeping on her belly at night, hopefully that is what is helping her head! I have a question for all moms out there...Greta's "soft spot" in the front of her head is sooooo small..does that matter? I just got back from my friends house, her baby is one week older than Greta(but 4 weeks premature) and he has a HUGE "soft spot"...I know I just saw a neurosurgeon and all, he would have pointed that out, right? Or maybe size doesnt matter? Just as long as there is a gap, no matter how small? Thanks, Have a good night! ~marcy>------- Original Message ------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 Hey , Greta DID have an xray, and the first neurosurgeon could NOT tell by looking at it if she had craniosyistosis...He wanted us to come back in 3 weeks for a CT scan...My pediatrician then told me to get a second opinion, and that Neuro told me she was fine, and not to worry. But, of course in the back of my mind I worry about how small her soft spot is, and what that could mean for her. I dont even remember the 2nd Neurosurgeon feeling her soft spot? We were like ina dn out of that appt! I dont know. I should really stop worrying about all this. We have her 4 month appt in April, so i guess I will wait until then for the Ped to touch it and see if it has closed, and of course until then I will be feeling it to make sure! Funny with my son, I NEVER thought about all of this- never knew that this could happen. Thanks for all of your support:) ~marcy, Mommy to Miss Greta RE: Re: Greta Pictures Hi Marcy -Glad you were able to look at the sheet with all of the different headviews (top, side, front) on it - sorry for the broken link in the original post.Did you end up getting xrays or a CT scan when you saw the neurosurgeon? Just wondering. I couldn't remember if that had been something you were going to do, and the neuro said that there wasn't a need -- or if they were done before you went to the neuro. If your friend's child was a premie that possibly might affect how large the softspot is. You might ask your pediatrician, or the neurosurgeon, about some of the things you have concerns about -- like the soft spot, and why this particular headshape might happen when you had a typical birth - no c-section - no breech baby. Good luck with everything. ------- Original Message -------From : marcy eiseman[mailto: marcyeiseman]Sen t : 3/9/2008 2:00:12 AMTo : PlagiocephalyCc : Subject : RE: Re: Greta Pictures Hey Thanks for all of your information! I went to that page, and her face does look like some of the descriptions. ..I have her sleeping on her belly at night, hopefully that is what is helping her head! I have a question for all moms out there...Greta' s "soft spot" in the front of her head is sooooo small..does that matter? I just got back from my friends house, her baby is one week older than Greta(but 4 weeks premature) and he has a HUGE "soft spot"...I know I just saw a neurosurgeon and all, he would have pointed that out, right? Or maybe size doesnt matter? Just as long as there is a gap, no matter how small? Thanks, Have a good night! ~marcy>------- Original Message ------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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