Guest guest Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 I've been doing well on SCD, thankfully, but my diet has been limited and I am slowly building it back up. I was always a really healthy eater, so it upset me to have GI issues- as I was so fanatical about eating healthy foods. I used to eat a lot of " healthy " (but not SCD legal) whole grains, oatmeal and so on,. I just recently had a checkup, and my cholesterol has gone up-not enough for medication thankfully, but I want to avoid that if possible. The culprits? Probably eggs, cheese, and lots of SCD yogurt made with 2% milk. I don't eat a lot of red meat, mostly fish and chicken. It seems that on SCD we don't have many carb culprits, but there are stil fats. I also don't want to eliminate more foods than I already have. Any advice? I guess the yogurt can be made with 1% milk ( skim might be yukky ), eat less of it and go up on cooked veggies? I'm not ready for raw veggies yet. I am also exercising more, and I'm not overweight, don't smoke-no caffeine, no other " risk factors " that I know of. PJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 PJ I came across several articles in my nutrition research over the past five years that indicated our cholesterol levels often fluctuate dramatically, usually going high, during healing phases. There is also a lot of information available discussing "good" fats vs "bad" fats. SCD provides us with "good" fats, and avoids most of the bad. That has been my experience, anyway, and I don't have an IBD. My cholesterol levels have settled down since my 3rd year on SCD, and they are quite low. My doctors are always impressed that I have such good levels "at your age" and with my family medical history. With cholesterol levels, like most lab results, it is usually best to consider multiple high (or low) readings before taking action. It is normal to have fluctuations. Kim M. SCD 5 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 I'm in the same situation. I've had the same slightly high cholesterol levels before and after SCD, so mine hasn't varied much. I use Organic Valley fat free milk for my yogurt. The texture is o.k., but I drip my yogurt anyway, so it's not an issue. I'm also going to eliminate cheese, except on special occasions. I cook with half egg whites and half regular eggs in most recipes. I find that a regular egg binds the ingredients better. I've eliminated coconut, although I love it, and there's a lot of debate about the nature of its saturated fats. I suspect if I could lose the 20 pounds I need to, my levels might go down more. -- I've been doing well on SCD, thankfully, but my diet has been limited and I am slowly building it back up. I was always a really healthy eater, so it upset me to have GI issues- as I was so fanatical about eating healthy foods. I used to eat a lot of " healthy " (but not SCD legal) whole grains, oatmeal and so on,. I just recently had a checkup, and my cholesterol has gone up-not enough for medication thankfully, but I want to avoid that if possible. The culprits? Probably eggs, cheese, and lots of SCD yogurt made with 2% milk. I don't eat a lot of red meat, mostly fish and chicken. It seems that on SCD we don't have many carb culprits, but there are stil fats. I also don't want to eliminate more foods than I already have. Any advice? I guess the yogurt can be made with 1% milk ( skim might be yukky ), eat less of it and go up on cooked veggies? I'm not ready for raw veggies yet. I am also exercising more, and I'm not overweight, don't smoke-no caffeine, no other " risk factors " that I know of. PJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Thanks for all the replies. Yes, I am going to modify the yogurt- I drip the yogurt too which would make fat free more palatable, use more egg whites.I have also used coconut oil which I will cut back on as well. My doc will recheck probably in 6 months so hopefully the changes will show improvement. Thanks, PJ > > > > > > > I've been doing well on SCD, thankfully, but my diet has been limited and I > > am slowly building it back up. I was always a really healthy eater, so it > > upset me to have GI issues- as I was so fanatical about eating healthy > > foods. I used to eat a lot of " healthy " (but not SCD legal) whole grains, > > oatmeal and so on,. > > > > I just recently had a checkup, and my cholesterol has gone up-not enough > > for medication thankfully, but I want to avoid that if possible. The > > culprits? Probably eggs, cheese, and lots of SCD yogurt made with 2% milk. I > > don't eat a lot of red meat, mostly fish and chicken. It seems that on SCD > > we don't have many carb culprits, but there are stil fats. > > > > I also don't want to eliminate more foods than I already have. Any advice? > > I guess the yogurt can be made with 1% milk ( skim might be yukky ), eat > > less of it and go up on cooked veggies? I'm not ready for raw veggies yet. I > > am also exercising more, and I'm not overweight, don't smoke-no caffeine, no > > other " risk factors " that I know of. > > > > PJ > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 > Thanks for all the replies. Yes, I am going to modify the yogurt- I > drip the yogurt too which would make fat free more palatable, use > more egg whites.I have also used coconut oil which I will cut back > on as well. You are aware of the health benefits of coconut oil - right - before you stop eating it - that it is a great natural anti-inflammatory, and an anti-fungal. Two things that are helpful with your disease. You are also aware of the theory in which the presence of disease raises cholesterol levels as - among others - Marilyn reported as one of the first symptoms when she got cancer. She asked her doctor about it, he threw it back at her - and blamed it on her food intake - instead of correlating it to her general health and checking for other health issues. Just another way that conventional medicine is out of touch with health issues. And the whole " fat is evil - ban fat from the diet " trend in modern years has done nothing so much as help create the modern obesity disaster. Traditional fats are good for you - that's why people have eaten them for millenia. Mara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Schneider wrote: I'm in the same situation. I've had the same slightly high cholesterol levels before and after SCD, so mine hasn't varied much. I use Organic Valley fat free milk for my yogurt. The texture is o.k., but I drip my yogurt anyway, so it's not an issue. I'm also going to eliminate cheese, except on special occasions. I cook with half egg whites and half regular eggs in most recipes. I find that a regular egg binds the ingredients better. I've eliminated coconut, although I love it, and there's a lot of debate about the nature of its saturated fats. I suspect if I could lose the 20 pounds I need to, my levels might go down more. -- On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 2:23 PM, smdsmom2008 <smdsmom2008 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: I just recently had a checkup, and my cholesterol has gone up-not enough for medication thankfully, but I want to avoid that if possible. The culprits? Probably eggs, cheese, and lots of SCD yogurt made with 2% milk. I don't eat a lot of red meat, mostly fish and chicken. It seems that on SCD we don't have many carb culprits, but there are stil fats. I also don't want to eliminate more foods than I already have. Any advice? I guess the yogurt can be made with 1% milk ( skim might be yukky ), eat less of it and go up on cooked veggies? I'm not ready for raw veggies yet. I am also exercising more, and I'm not overweight, don't smoke-no caffeine, no other "risk factors" that I know of. PJ I've been doing well on SCD, thankfully, but my diet has been limited and I am slowly building it back up. I was always a really healthy eater, so it upset me to have GI issues- as I was so fanatical about eating healthy foods. I used to eat a lot of "healthy"(but not SCD legal) whole grains, oatmeal and so on,. I've long wondered about the seemingly extreme emphasis on cholesterol, and doctors essentially forcing people to take drugs to lower it. I intuitively decided it was bunk. Scientifically, it is. I'm reading "Good Calories, Bad Calories," whose author documents very carefully how we got into the bizarre situation of the medical establishment promoting low-fat (especially avoiding red meat and saturated fats)/high-carb diets, and assuming that eating low cholesterol foods equals low blood cholesterol levels when the scientific evidence shows no support for those assumptions, and in fact shows that low-fat diets are unhealthy and eating low cholesterol foods has no healthy impact on blood cholesterol levels. Eggs are good for you, so is whole milk, so is meat. Personally, I'd forget about cholesterol if I were you. It has no real relevance to whether you're going to be healthy or not. n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 You know, I agree with this. My cholesterol levels are only a " tad " above the normal range. Not only this, but the medically acceptable ranges of " normal " have changed over the years- they are narrower which will make more people " abnormal " . I appreciate that my doctor is vigilant, but it becomes a scary experience to have everything picked apart. I've already been very vigilant about what I eat. I think loading up on fast food, cokes, and french fries will get anyone in trouble over time, but some recommendations are strange and the recommendations keep changing. I just want to be sure I don't overdo it on some SCD legal but high fat foods. I can deal with fat free yogurt, but I tend to agree with you. PJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Thanks for the tip about the coconut oil, and G-d willing, I'm healthy as he did give me a pretty complete check over. PJ > > > Thanks for all the replies. Yes, I am going to modify the yogurt- I > > drip the yogurt too which would make fat free more palatable, use > > more egg whites.I have also used coconut oil which I will cut back > > on as well. > > > You are aware of the health benefits of coconut oil - right - before > you stop eating it - that it is a great natural anti-inflammatory, and > an anti-fungal. Two things that are helpful with your disease. > > You are also aware of the theory in which the presence of disease > raises cholesterol levels as - among others - Marilyn reported as > one of the first symptoms when she got cancer. She asked her > doctor about it, he threw it back at her - and blamed it on her > food intake - instead of correlating it to her general health and > checking for other health issues. Just another way that conventional > medicine is out of touch with health issues. > > And the whole " fat is evil - ban fat from the diet " trend in modern > years has done nothing so much as help create the modern > obesity disaster. Traditional fats are good for you - that's > why people have eaten them for millenia. > > > Mara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 I make all these modifications because I'm trying to avoid going on statins, and I'm really borderline.I do eat " good " fats though: olive oil, walnut oil, avocado, etc. and eat red meat occasionally. -- Schneider wrote: I'm in the same situation. I've had the same slightly high cholesterol levels before and after SCD, so mine hasn't varied much. I use Organic Valley fat free milk for my yogurt. The texture is o.k., but I drip my yogurt anyway, so it's not an issue. I'm also going to eliminate cheese, except on special occasions. I cook with half egg whites and half regular eggs in most recipes. I find that a regular egg binds the ingredients better. I've eliminated coconut, although I love it, and there's a lot of debate about the nature of its saturated fats. I suspect if I could lose the 20 pounds I need to, my levels might go down more. -- On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 2:23 PM, smdsmom2008 wrote: I just recently had a checkup, and my cholesterol has gone up-not enough for medication thankfully, but I want to avoid that if possible. The culprits? Probably eggs, cheese, and lots of SCD yogurt made with 2% milk. I don't eat a lot of red meat, mostly fish and chicken. It seems that on SCD we don't have many carb culprits, but there are stil fats. I also don't want to eliminate more foods than I already have. Any advice? I guess the yogurt can be made with 1% milk ( skim might be yukky ), eat less of it and go up on cooked veggies? I'm not ready for raw veggies yet. I am also exercising more, and I'm not overweight, don't smoke-no caffeine, no other " risk factors " that I know of. PJ I've been doing well on SCD, thankfully, but my diet has been limited and I am slowly building it back up. I was always a really healthy eater, so it upset me to have GI issues- as I was so fanatical about eating healthy foods. I used to eat a lot of " healthy " (but not SCD legal) whole grains, oatmeal and so on,. I've long wondered about the seemingly extreme emphasis on cholesterol, and doctors essentially forcing people to take drugs to lower it. I intuitively decided it was bunk. Scientifically, it is. I'm reading " Good Calories, Bad Calories, " whose author documents very carefully how we got into the bizarre situation of the medical establishment promoting low-fat (especially avoiding red meat and saturated fats)/high-carb diets, and assuming that eating low cholesterol foods equals low blood cholesterol levels when the scientific evidence shows no support for those assumptions, and in fact shows that low-fat diets are unhealthy and eating low cholesterol foods has no healthy impact on blood cholesterol levels. Eggs are good for you, so is whole milk, so is meat. Personally, I'd forget about cholesterol if I were you. It has no real relevance to whether you're going to be healthy or not. n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 I agree. I looked at my last year's cholesterol, and it's not a big difference, but I also was eating differently- way more grains and raw veggies-never any cheese or butter or high fat dairy ( and I sincerely hope to get into raw fruit/veggies again one day). My doc has a really low threshold for using statins, and I really don't want to go there either. I'm not in the high risk category with cholesterol either thankfully, and I agree that some fats are good fats, but I am going to modify some because I don't want him giving me any drugs I could avoid. I think it's awesome about your colonoscopy after 9 months of SCD, cholesterol is minor compared to results like that PJ > > > >> I just recently had a checkup, and my cholesterol has gone up-not > >> enough for medication thankfully, but I want to avoid that if possible. The > >> culprits? Probably eggs, cheese, and lots of SCD yogurt made with 2% milk. I > >> don't eat a lot of red meat, mostly fish and chicken. It seems that on SCD > >> we don't have many carb culprits, but there are stil fats. > >> > >> I also don't want to eliminate more foods than I already have. Any advice? > >> I guess the yogurt can be made with 1% milk ( skim might be yukky ), eat > >> less of it and go up on cooked veggies? I'm not ready for raw veggies yet. I > >> am also exercising more, and I'm not overweight, don't smoke-no caffeine, no > >> other " risk factors " that I know of. > >> > >> PJ > >> I've been doing well on SCD, thankfully, but my diet has been limited and > >> I am slowly building it back up. I was always a really healthy eater, so it > >> upset me to have GI issues- as I was so fanatical about eating healthy > >> foods. I used to eat a lot of " healthy " (but not SCD legal) whole grains, > >> oatmeal and so on,. > >> > > I've long wondered about the seemingly extreme emphasis on cholesterol, > > and doctors essentially forcing people to take drugs to lower it. I > > intuitively decided it was bunk. Scientifically, it is. I'm reading " Good > > Calories, Bad Calories, " whose author documents very carefully how we got > > into the bizarre situation of the medical establishment promoting low-fat > > (especially avoiding red meat and saturated fats)/high-carb diets, and > > assuming that eating low cholesterol foods equals low blood cholesterol > > levels when the scientific evidence shows no support for those assumptions, > > and in fact shows that low-fat diets are unhealthy and eating low > > cholesterol foods has no healthy impact on blood cholesterol levels. Eggs > > are good for you, so is whole milk, so is meat. Personally, I'd forget > > about cholesterol if I were you. It has no real relevance to whether > > you're going to be healthy or not. > > > > > > > > n > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Thanks. I'm truly grateful for the diet. I think the Canasa helped as well, although I seem to be having some reaction to it, so I think my GI is looking at other options. Luckily, though, I'm still on the mild meds five years after being first diagnosed. I'm not sure that would be the case without the diet. -- I agree. I looked at my last year's cholesterol, and it's not a big difference, but I also was eating differently- way more grains and raw veggies-never any cheese or butter or high fat dairy ( and I sincerely hope to get into raw fruit/veggies again one day). My doc has a really low threshold for using statins, and I really don't want to go there either. I'm not in the high risk category with cholesterol either thankfully, and I agree that some fats are good fats, but I am going to modify some because I don't want him giving me any drugs I could avoid. I think it's awesome about your colonoscopy after 9 months of SCD, cholesterol is minor compared to results like that PJ > > > >> I just recently had a checkup, and my cholesterol has gone up-not > >> enough for medication thankfully, but I want to avoid that if possible. The > >> culprits? Probably eggs, cheese, and lots of SCD yogurt made with 2% milk. I > >> don't eat a lot of red meat, mostly fish and chicken. It seems that on SCD > >> we don't have many carb culprits, but there are stil fats. > >> > >> I also don't want to eliminate more foods than I already have. Any advice? > >> I guess the yogurt can be made with 1% milk ( skim might be yukky ), eat > >> less of it and go up on cooked veggies? I'm not ready for raw veggies yet. I > >> am also exercising more, and I'm not overweight, don't smoke-no caffeine, no > >> other " risk factors " that I know of. > >> > >> PJ > >> I've been doing well on SCD, thankfully, but my diet has been limited and > >> I am slowly building it back up. I was always a really healthy eater, so it > >> upset me to have GI issues- as I was so fanatical about eating healthy > >> foods. I used to eat a lot of " healthy " (but not SCD legal) whole grains, > >> oatmeal and so on,. > >> > > I've long wondered about the seemingly extreme emphasis on cholesterol, > > and doctors essentially forcing people to take drugs to lower it. I > > intuitively decided it was bunk. Scientifically, it is. I'm reading " Good > > Calories, Bad Calories, " whose author documents very carefully how we got > > into the bizarre situation of the medical establishment promoting low-fat > > (especially avoiding red meat and saturated fats)/high-carb diets, and > > assuming that eating low cholesterol foods equals low blood cholesterol > > levels when the scientific evidence shows no support for those assumptions, > > and in fact shows that low-fat diets are unhealthy and eating low > > cholesterol foods has no healthy impact on blood cholesterol levels. Eggs > > are good for you, so is whole milk, so is meat. Personally, I'd forget > > about cholesterol if I were you. It has no real relevance to whether > > you're going to be healthy or not. > > > > > > > > n > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 I just had a full blood panel and the doctor wrote " excellent " next to my cholesterol levels--good bad and good good. Everything was in average range. I have been eating two eggs (usually) in the morning, olive oil, safflower oil, walnut oil, homemade mayo, a ton of DCCC, the full fat or 1/2 and 1/2 yogurt, baked chickens and still came out with good numbers. I don't know if I had been eating the SADiet the numbers would be as good. I don't eat out that much so stay with it. I did know off the diet after finding out I was very anemic and taking iron pills. That was in November '08. That is normal now also so I'm working my way back. Just thought I'd mention fwiw, Debbie 40 cd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 At 01:37 PM 5/18/2009, you wrote: I make all these modifications because I'm trying to avoid going on statins, and I'm really borderline. Look into pantethine -- not pantothenic acid, pantethine, which is a B5 co-factor. 900 mg a day, in divided doses, is reputed to help lower cholesterol naturally. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 wrote: > > I make all these modifications because I'm trying to avoid going on statins, > and I'm really borderline.I do eat " good " fats though Just to chime in on this subject... The " conventional " wisdom on cutting out fats, etc. is not going to reduce your cholesterol levels as much as going on a grain free diet -- which you've already done by going on the SCD. Cutting fats will lead you to increase your carb levels, which in turn can raise cholesterol levels. Good points were also raised about Marilyn's experience. Women naturally have higher levels of cholesterol than men. They need it. It's right for things to be that way. Did you know that there are tests on LDL subtypes that can be done to see if the circulating cholesterol in your bloodstream is harmful or not? Also, there are NO studies out there that show a benefit to women being on statin medications. Statins have horrible side effects. They can cause muscle damage. Doesn't sound so bad, you say? Well, you've got one very important muscle thumping away all day long in the center of your chest. Low cholesterol levels are not the end-all and be-all of health. Cholesterol is VITAL to your body's processes. You need cholesterol to stay alive. I've got a blog article you should read here: http://www.fathead-movie.com/?p=203 and here, Dr. Eades rips into a recent study: http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins/more-statin-madness/ You've already questioned standard medical advice by going on the SCD. Don't suddenly throw all of your research skills away when it comes to cholesterol and statins! B. ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007 http://scdgirl.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 A simple fix is garlic. Either fresh or the Kyolic aged garlic extract will lower cholesterol. For more severe high cholesterol, non-flushing niacin (usually inositol hexaniacinate) works as well as the drugs that the doctors prescribe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Speaking of coconut oil- in what can you substitute it for butter? And what ratios? I do want to try to use it more, jsut need to figure out how. Thanks!alyssa> Thanks for all the replies. Yes, I am going to modify the yogurt- I > drip the yogurt too which would make fat free more palatable, use > more egg whites.I have also used coconut oil which I will cut back > on as well.You are aware of the health benefits of coconut oil - right - beforeyou stop eating it - that it is a great natural anti-inflammatory, andan anti-fungal. Two things that are helpful with your disease.You are also aware of the theory in which the presence of diseaseraises cholesterol levels as - among others - Marilyn reported asone of the first symptoms when she got cancer. She asked herdoctor about it, he threw it back at her - and blamed it on herfood intake - instead of correlating it to her general health andchecking for other health issues. Just another way that conventionalmedicine is out of touch with health issues.And the whole "fat is evil - ban fat from the diet" trend in modernyears has done nothing so much as help create the modernobesity disaster. Traditional fats are good for you - that'swhy people have eaten them for millenia.Mara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 One more cholesterol question: If I really need to gain weight and am very skinny, could cholesterol still be a problem for me? Thanks for any replies, I"m confused about this!alyssaYou know, I agree with this. My cholesterol levels are only a "tad" above the normal range. Not only this, but the medically acceptable ranges of "normal" have changed over the years- they are narrower which will make more people "abnormal". I appreciate that my doctor is vigilant, but it becomes a scary experience to have everything picked apart. I've already been very vigilant about what I eat. I think loading up on fast food, cokes, and french fries will get anyone in trouble over time, but some recommendations are strange and the recommendations keep changing. I just want to be sure I don't overdo it on some SCD legal but high fat foods. I can deal with fat free yogurt, but I tend to agree with you.PJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Thanks for the Dr. Eades link. It is a really interesting observation that makes a lot of the reported drug studies suspect. > > > > I make all these modifications because I'm trying to avoid going on statins, > > and I'm really borderline.I do eat " good " fats though > > Just to chime in on this subject... > > The " conventional " wisdom on cutting out fats, etc. is not going to reduce your cholesterol levels as much as going on a grain free diet -- which you've already done by going on the SCD. Cutting fats will lead you to increase your carb levels, which in turn can raise cholesterol levels. > > Good points were also raised about Marilyn's experience. > > Women naturally have higher levels of cholesterol than men. They need it. It's right for things to be that way. > > Did you know that there are tests on LDL subtypes that can be done to see if the circulating cholesterol in your bloodstream is harmful or not? > > Also, there are NO studies out there that show a benefit to women being on statin medications. > > Statins have horrible side effects. They can cause muscle damage. Doesn't sound so bad, you say? Well, you've got one very important muscle thumping away all day long in the center of your chest. > > Low cholesterol levels are not the end-all and be-all of health. Cholesterol is VITAL to your body's processes. You need cholesterol to stay alive. > > I've got a blog article you should read here: > > http://www.fathead-movie.com/?p=203 > > and here, Dr. Eades rips into a recent study: > > http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins/more-statin-madness/ > > You've already questioned standard medical advice by going on the SCD. Don't suddenly throw all of your research skills away when it comes to cholesterol and statins! > > B. > ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007 > http://scdgirl.blogspot.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 get it checked while fasting but even with family history my cardiologist said mine's good and to keep stuffing my face with steak and sggs and get that weight on -I'm 98/99lbs now- great to hear about your gain!!!!! eileen > > > > > > > You know, I agree with this. My cholesterol levels are only a " tad " > > above the normal range. Not only this, but the medically acceptable > > ranges of " normal " have changed over the years- they are narrower > > which will make more people " abnormal " . > > > > I appreciate that my doctor is vigilant, but it becomes a scary > > experience to have everything picked apart. I've already been very > > vigilant about what I eat. I think loading up on fast food, cokes, > > and french fries will get anyone in trouble over time, but some > > recommendations are strange and the recommendations keep changing. I > > just want to be sure I don't overdo it on some SCD legal but high > > fat foods. I can deal with fat free yogurt, but I tend to agree with > > you. > > > > PJ > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Thanks Eileen, I'll get it checked soon hopefully!ALyssaget it checked while fasting but even with family history my cardiologist said mine's good and to keep stuffing my face with steak and sggs and get that weight on -I'm 98/99lbs now-great to hear about your gain!!!!!eileen> > >> >> > You know, I agree with this. My cholesterol levels are only a "tad" > > above the normal range. Not only this, but the medically acceptable > > ranges of "normal" have changed over the years- they are narrower > > which will make more people "abnormal".> >> > I appreciate that my doctor is vigilant, but it becomes a scary > > experience to have everything picked apart. I've already been very > > vigilant about what I eat. I think loading up on fast food, cokes, > > and french fries will get anyone in trouble over time, but some > > recommendations are strange and the recommendations keep changing. I > > just want to be sure I don't overdo it on some SCD legal but high > > fat foods. I can deal with fat free yogurt, but I tend to agree with > > you.> >> > PJ> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 At 04:23 PM 5/18/2009, you wrote: You've already questioned standard medical advice by going on the SCD. Don't suddenly throw all of your research skills away when it comes to cholesterol and statins! Amen to that... and thank you for those links. I have a feeling I'm going to spend more time on those sites. On second thought, maybe I don't thank you! :-) — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Thanks, I'll go check out those links. wrote: > > I make all these modifications because I'm trying to avoid going on statins, > and I'm really borderline.I do eat " good " fats though Just to chime in on this subject... The " conventional " wisdom on cutting out fats, etc. is not going to reduce your cholesterol levels as much as going on a grain free diet -- which you've already done by going on the SCD. Cutting fats will lead you to increase your carb levels, which in turn can raise cholesterol levels. Good points were also raised about Marilyn's experience. Women naturally have higher levels of cholesterol than men. They need it. It's right for things to be that way. Did you know that there are tests on LDL subtypes that can be done to see if the circulating cholesterol in your bloodstream is harmful or not? Also, there are NO studies out there that show a benefit to women being on statin medications. Statins have horrible side effects. They can cause muscle damage. Doesn't sound so bad, you say? Well, you've got one very important muscle thumping away all day long in the center of your chest. Low cholesterol levels are not the end-all and be-all of health. Cholesterol is VITAL to your body's processes. You need cholesterol to stay alive. I've got a blog article you should read here: http://www.fathead-movie.com/?p=203 and here, Dr. Eades rips into a recent study: http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins/more-statin-madness/ You've already questioned standard medical advice by going on the SCD. Don't suddenly throw all of your research skills away when it comes to cholesterol and statins! B. ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007 http://scdgirl.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 I thought the muscle damage with statins was a rare side effect, but maybe not?? wrote: > > I make all these modifications because I'm trying to avoid going on statins, > and I'm really borderline.I do eat " good " fats though Just to chime in on this subject... The " conventional " wisdom on cutting out fats, etc. is not going to reduce your cholesterol levels as much as going on a grain free diet -- which you've already done by going on the SCD. Cutting fats will lead you to increase your carb levels, which in turn can raise cholesterol levels. Good points were also raised about Marilyn's experience. Women naturally have higher levels of cholesterol than men. They need it. It's right for things to be that way. Did you know that there are tests on LDL subtypes that can be done to see if the circulating cholesterol in your bloodstream is harmful or not? Also, there are NO studies out there that show a benefit to women being on statin medications. Statins have horrible side effects. They can cause muscle damage. Doesn't sound so bad, you say? Well, you've got one very important muscle thumping away all day long in the center of your chest. Low cholesterol levels are not the end-all and be-all of health. Cholesterol is VITAL to your body's processes. You need cholesterol to stay alive. I've got a blog article you should read here: http://www.fathead-movie.com/?p=203 and here, Dr. Eades rips into a recent study: http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins/more-statin-madness/ You've already questioned standard medical advice by going on the SCD. Don't suddenly throw all of your research skills away when it comes to cholesterol and statins! B. ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007 http://scdgirl.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Do Kyolic pills cause upper GI issues, though? I have mild acid reflux.-- A simple fix is garlic. Either fresh or the Kyolic aged garlic extract will lower cholesterol. For more severe high cholesterol, non-flushing niacin (usually inositol hexaniacinate) works as well as the drugs that the doctors prescribe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Thanks for the tip.--On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Wizop Marilyn L. Alm wrote: At 01:37 PM 5/18/2009, you wrote: I make all these modifications because I'm trying to avoid going on statins, and I'm really borderline. Look into pantethine -- not pantothenic acid, pantethine, which is a B5 co-factor. 900 mg a day, in divided doses, is reputed to help lower cholesterol naturally. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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