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I just wanted to say congratulations!!!!! I'm sorry I can't help you but we had the opposite problem, was Jaundiced and we had a hard time getting her to wake up to nurse (except in the middle of the night it seemed!)

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This all sounds very normal for a 4 day old infant. :c) It sounds

like you are doing a wonderful job mom! You are right not to

introduce a paci this early. It is better for him to use you as a

pacifier than to use a paci as an artificial mom. I promise, after a

few weeks, things will calm down. Just be glad your milk came in.

My milk did not come in for FIVE days with my last one and I thought

I was going to go insane. ;c) Just keep following your baby's cues

and enjoy this time as much as you can. Don't worry about going

places, your house, visitors (keep your robe on to discourage people

from staying a long time), etc. and enjoy your tiny one. This time

does not last long and it will be over before you know it. You

should not have sores or scabs if he is latched on correctly. But,

if it is healing, he may have resolved it. Are you attending LLL

meetings? This would be great support. Just relax, put your feet up

and pamper yourself as much as possible.

Joan S.

> Lukas Leyba arrived Monday, November 13th at 10:25 a.m.

He was 7

> lbs. 15.6 ozs, 21 " long. He has tons of dark hair and blue eyes.

> Breastfeeding is going well, I think. He latched on right away in

the

> deliver room and his latch looks really good. I always check to

make sure

> his lower lip is flipped out, I can se his tongue curled under my

nipple,

> and his cheeks are always smooth and his ears wiggle so I can tell

he's

> swallowing. Sometimes his upper lip seems tight though, is it

supposed to

> look flipped out like his bottom lip? My nipples aren't sore so I

think

> we're okay but my right nipple has little scabs and a little

blister on the

> tip, does that mean he's not latching correctly or is just normal

since my

> nipples are toughening up? I saw the LC before leaving the

hospital, and

> she thought his latch looked fine.

>

> The big problem we are having right now is that he wants to nurse

> *constantly* and I mean constantly. He is usually crying if my

nipple

> isn't in his mouth. It seems that he has a huge need to suck for

comfort,

> he won't go to sleep unless he is nursing. He'll lie there for

hours slowly

> sucking and nodding off and sucking some more and nodding off.

Sometimes

> he'll just be sleeping and not sucking any more, so i'll take him

off the

> breast and then he wakes right up crying because he has to have my

nipple in

> his mouth. I don't want to give him a pacifier and risk nipple

confusion

> this early, but I am so exhausted. He hardly ever sleeps. He is

always

> nursing or crying. My milk came in last night and I was hoping it

would

> satisfy him more and he would sleep but no such luck, as a matter

of fact, I

> think he's even fussier. Do you think he could be getting too much

> foremilk? I noticed that when he first starts drinking, he gulps

very

> loudly and seems to be swallowing quickly. Then it slows down, and

he

> starts drinking very slowly. He will only eat 15 minutes at the

most at one

> breast, then he lets go and I usually burp him and switch him to

the other

> breast. Sometimes he'll only eat 5 minutes at one breast. Should

I try

> using only 1 breast at a feeding so he gets more hindmilk and

switch back

> and forth every few hours? Or should I pump off some milk before

he starts

> eating? He seems very gassy and fussy all the time. He is so

young still,

> i'm not sure if the constant feeding and fussiness is just because

he's so

> young, or if we are doing something wrong. I'm sorry for running

on and

> asking a million questions, but I sure could use some input. It's

so easy

> to doubt myself right now, we're so new at this. Also, I had a

very

> difficult labor and he doesn't sleep much, so we're exhausted and I

really

> need to figure out how to get him to feed at a more normal pace.

My husband

> has been an angel, or i'd be tearing my hair out right now. But he

can't

> feed him and that is all Luke does all day. I would appreciate any

ideas.

>

> Thanks for listening,

>

>

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First of all CONGRATULATIONS!

>swallowing. Sometimes his upper lip seems tight though, is it supposed to

>look flipped out like his bottom lip?

Cam's top lip is always tight. His bottom lip looks right. We've done this

for 3 months now (man I can't believe I can say that!!!) and that's the way

he's always latched.

>we're okay but my right nipple has little scabs and a little blister on the

>tip, does that mean he's not latching correctly or is just normal since my

>nipples are toughening up?

Sounds normal. That's what mine looked like at first.

>The big problem we are having right now is that he wants to nurse

>*constantly* and I mean constantly.

Cameron did this and I was SO tempted to just quit. Perseverance paid off

as he quit at around 2 weeks. He did it again at 3 weeks and then not again

since. Can you nurse laying down? That way you can get some sleep while he

eats. We managed to hold off on the paci for 2 1/2 weeks. He had some

nipple confusion the first day, but after that he's done fine. I'd say get

an Avent paci to aid in the lack of nipple confusion. I know it's rough

with a constant eater. I really thought I was going to die!! I'm proud to

say that feeding Cameron when he wanted to early on has led to a great

nursing relationship.

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Congrats!

as for the top lip, My daughter's top lip is the same

way. it's never given me any problems. I think thier

top lips don't flair out as much as the bottom's do.

As for the constant nursing. You said your milk came

in yesterday? Your baby could be doing this to fully

get your milk in and to build your supply. He should

space his feedings out some here soon. Also, and I

know i'm going to get slack for this. But he might

just be using you as a pacifier at times. When my baby

was born she nurse constantly. The nurse at the

hospital swaddled her up in 2 blankets and gave her a

pacifier and she slept for 4 hours! It's a matter of

personal preference. but i don't think that a pacifier

is as evil as some may think. My daughter NEVER got

nipple confusion from it either. If nothing else. it

allows you to have a few minutes to yourself. and

every mother needs that.

I hope breastfeeding continues to go well for you! and

congrats again!

kat

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Most l/c say to avoid the pacifier for the first month--especially allowing

for those early growth spurts to be passed. Swaddling the baby can be very

effective--depending on the child. I might suggest to swaddle in the

evening to generate a cozy, quiet environment for sleeping.

Amy Lynn

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Congratulations, and Lukas!

> swallowing. Sometimes his upper lip seems tight though, is it supposed to

> look flipped out like his bottom lip? My nipples aren't sore so I think

Sounds like his lips are fine. As for the scabs and blister on your nipple,

just make sure that they don't get worse and you don't become sore. You

might try varying positions that you nurse with on that side and using

lansinoh to promote healing. If you become sore, contact LLL or the l/c

immediately.

As for the nursing pattern, try to set up a nursing corner where you can

doze while Lukas sleeps. Take him to bed with you. Your milk has been in

for such as short time that I would wait a few days--until he is a week

old--before you get concerned about him nursing all day and night.

If he is gassy, in addition to burping, try nursing him on the same side for

2-3 hour periods. This gets him more hindmilk--the weight gain variety--and

if it doesn't help him, it won't be hurting either of you either. In the

meantime, the other breast will be getting really full. If it is too full

for Lukas to latch-on to, express enough milk to soften the breast and make

the nipple easier to grasp.

> starts drinking very slowly. He will only eat 15 minutes at the most at

one

> breast, then he lets go and I usually burp him and switch him to the other

> breast.

This is normal--fast swallows, then slow ones. My babies never took both

breasts at this age. They would take one, burp, go to sleep for a while.

I'd run for a shower or take a nap myself.

> i'm not sure if the constant feeding and fussiness is just because he's so

> young, or if we are doing something wrong. I'm sorry for running on and

yes, it is because he is so young. You both went through a difficult

labor--Lukas was on the receiving end of those contractions--so it will take

a while to adjust.

Enjoy if you have dh or another helper at home with you. If you don't have

helpers, ask dh to fill water bottles for you before he leaves, and prepare

some fingerfoods that you can have beside you or grab quickly from the frig.

Happy nursing, you're doing great!

Amy Lynn

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yep, I got one when I bought the disposable bottle kit when I was preg. DD hated it when she was born but loved the NUK. The avents don't really have a shape is why I think she didn't like it.

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I'd say get an Avent paci to aid in the lack of nipple confusion.

Avent makes a pacifirer? WOW! Can you find them online? I know for a fact I have never seen them in my neck of the woods!

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CONGRATULATIONS & Welcome Lukas!

Sorry it's a late reply, but I'm just getting over a nasty stomach flu.

You've probably already received a ton of advise but here goes any ways...

You said that you didn't want to give a pacifier, what about showing him to

suck on his fingers? I did this with Amy and at 2 weeks she was doing it

all the time on her own. I know that a lot of people are not for this

because you can't take their fingers away like a pacifier, but for me I

don't really see it as a problem.

If he's gulping he's probably getting a lot of air also and that could make

him fussy, try leaning as far back in your bed or wherever you are feeding

so he's sort of face down on your breast, and burp lots. This helped us

since my letdown is so strong. I also only ever nursed 1 breast at a time

unless she wanted more.

KimB

05/28/96

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Sorry to be so late in replying. I am having trouble with my email and am

just getting this. I would give him a little bit more time adjusting to the

world before starting to switch his nursing patterns around. Do you have a

sling? That could really help you feel more mobile while being able to

satisfy his needs. I will keep reading more mail and see if you get the

help you need. Feel free to email me privately at

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Wendi

My angel is finally here! Questions already...

Lukas Leyba arrived Monday, November 13th at 10:25 a.m. He was 7

lbs. 15.6 ozs, 21 " long. He has tons of dark hair and blue eyes.

Breastfeeding is going well, I think. He latched on right away in the

deliver room and his latch looks really good. I always check to make sure

his lower lip is flipped out, I can se his tongue curled under my nipple,

and his cheeks are always smooth and his ears wiggle so I can tell he's

swallowing. Sometimes his upper lip seems tight though, is it supposed to

look flipped out like his bottom lip? My nipples aren't sore so I think

we're okay but my right nipple has little scabs and a little blister on the

tip, does that mean he's not latching correctly or is just normal since my

nipples are toughening up? I saw the LC before leaving the hospital, and

she thought his latch looked fine.

The big problem we are having right now is that he wants to nurse

*constantly* and I mean constantly. He is usually crying if my nipple

isn't in his mouth. It seems that he has a huge need to suck for comfort,

he won't go to sleep unless he is nursing. He'll lie there for hours slowly

sucking and nodding off and sucking some more and nodding off. Sometimes

he'll just be sleeping and not sucking any more, so i'll take him off the

breast and then he wakes right up crying because he has to have my nipple in

his mouth. I don't want to give him a pacifier and risk nipple confusion

this early, but I am so exhausted. He hardly ever sleeps. He is always

nursing or crying. My milk came in last night and I was hoping it would

satisfy him more and he would sleep but no such luck, as a matter of fact, I

think he's even fussier. Do you think he could be getting too much

foremilk? I noticed that when he first starts drinking, he gulps very

loudly and seems to be swallowing quickly. Then it slows down, and he

starts drinking very slowly. He will only eat 15 minutes at the most at one

breast, then he lets go and I usually burp him and switch him to the other

breast. Sometimes he'll only eat 5 minutes at one breast. Should I try

using only 1 breast at a feeding so he gets more hindmilk and switch back

and forth every few hours? Or should I pump off some milk before he starts

eating? He seems very gassy and fussy all the time. He is so young still,

i'm not sure if the constant feeding and fussiness is just because he's so

young, or if we are doing something wrong. I'm sorry for running on and

asking a million questions, but I sure could use some input. It's so easy

to doubt myself right now, we're so new at this. Also, I had a very

difficult labor and he doesn't sleep much, so we're exhausted and I really

need to figure out how to get him to feed at a more normal pace. My husband

has been an angel, or i'd be tearing my hair out right now. But he can't

feed him and that is all Luke does all day. I would appreciate any ideas.

Thanks for listening,

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