Re: IEP help. Please

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/9/2006 2:47:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

kevinbarb6@... writes:

What if he calls me and just says something like I am sorry but I will

not invite this school to the IEP. What do I say to that?

You have the right to invite anyone you want to the IEP meeting and that

includes the people from the other school. And if they schedule a meeting for

when you or your guests cannot make it, request another date. You can even give

them some to chose from.

Even though things are running quite smoothly now with our district, I never

wait for them to invite the people I want at our meetings. I invite them

myself as soon as I know the meeting date.

Today I received the letter announcing the date and time for Ian's meeting.

I have declined to accept the time slot. We always schedule Ian's meetings in

the afternoon so that both my husband and the TOD can be there and now so

Ian does not miss any classes (he is now attending his own meetings).

This time they chose to set a morning time. I've already faxed over a letter

stating that time is not good for us and requesting an afternoon time slot.

I also included a list of the few dates when we cannot be there in the

afternoon.

My note simply says the time is not convenient and that we need an afternoon

time slot around 2 pm. My letter is only four sentences long. It doesn't

need to be any longer or detailed.

If they tell you they will not invite someone, you can just smile and nod at

them. And then you invite whoever you want. Bring your paperboy if you'd

like (grin). Your choice of guests is up to you with or without their approval.

You can change the date to make sure your choice of support people are able

to be there. You don't have to give a detailed justification for the change,

only that the date or time does not work for you.

Good luck and let us know how it's going

-- Jill.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/9/2006 2:47:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

kevinbarb6@... writes:

What if he calls me and just says something like I am sorry but I will

not invite this school to the IEP. What do I say to that?

You have the right to invite anyone you want to the IEP meeting and that

includes the people from the other school. And if they schedule a meeting for

when you or your guests cannot make it, request another date. You can even give

them some to chose from.

Even though things are running quite smoothly now with our district, I never

wait for them to invite the people I want at our meetings. I invite them

myself as soon as I know the meeting date.

Today I received the letter announcing the date and time for Ian's meeting.

I have declined to accept the time slot. We always schedule Ian's meetings in

the afternoon so that both my husband and the TOD can be there and now so

Ian does not miss any classes (he is now attending his own meetings).

This time they chose to set a morning time. I've already faxed over a letter

stating that time is not good for us and requesting an afternoon time slot.

I also included a list of the few dates when we cannot be there in the

afternoon.

My note simply says the time is not convenient and that we need an afternoon

time slot around 2 pm. My letter is only four sentences long. It doesn't

need to be any longer or detailed.

If they tell you they will not invite someone, you can just smile and nod at

them. And then you invite whoever you want. Bring your paperboy if you'd

like (grin). Your choice of guests is up to you with or without their approval.

You can change the date to make sure your choice of support people are able

to be there. You don't have to give a detailed justification for the change,

only that the date or time does not work for you.

Good luck and let us know how it's going

-- Jill.

[Guest guest]

We just went through this...and still am.

In our wonderful state (sarcasm) of CT, the law is that they have to schedule a

meeeting for the IEP " in a resonable amount of time " . Period. That is it.

This is the law that is supposed to protect our disabled children. So I suggest

you call the parent advocacy group in your state and find out what the law is

exactly. And yes, invite whomever you wish; you are an equal partner in these

meetings. Or so they say.

Trish

IEP help. Please

Ok I have contacte the school district that placed my son in the HI

program in an adjacent city. By certified mail. I have requested an

IEP meeting and I have requested a representive from the state school

for the deaf be there.

How long do I wait for him to get back to me?

and

What if he calls me and just says something like I am sorry but I will

not invite this school to the IEP. What do I say to that?

Thank you

Barb

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[Guest guest]

We just went through this...and still am.

In our wonderful state (sarcasm) of CT, the law is that they have to schedule a

meeeting for the IEP " in a resonable amount of time " . Period. That is it.

This is the law that is supposed to protect our disabled children. So I suggest

you call the parent advocacy group in your state and find out what the law is

exactly. And yes, invite whomever you wish; you are an equal partner in these

meetings. Or so they say.

Trish

IEP help. Please

Ok I have contacte the school district that placed my son in the HI

program in an adjacent city. By certified mail. I have requested an

IEP meeting and I have requested a representive from the state school

for the deaf be there.

How long do I wait for him to get back to me?

and

What if he calls me and just says something like I am sorry but I will

not invite this school to the IEP. What do I say to that?

Thank you

Barb

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Barb -

Unless you've joined and posted your question to PDHH where I know a

lady who may be able to help you - you can also join this list about

the special ed law in Michigan. It appears to be a fairly active

list.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SpecialEdLawMichigan/

Anyway, you can bring anyone you want. I at least suggest a DHH

advocate from your state's advocacy commission for deaf/hh.

--> Ok I have contacte the school district that placed my son in

the HI

> program in an adjacent city. By certified mail. I have

requested an

> IEP meeting and I have requested a representive from the state

school

> for the deaf be there.

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> How long do I wait for him to get back to me?

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> What if he calls me and just says something like I am sorry but

I will

> not invite this school to the IEP. What do I say to that?

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> Thank you

> Barb

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[Guest guest]

Trish, I had a thought about your situation. What exactly is a PPT? In our

district, they don't like to evaluate kids for LD or hearing etc so they have

an SST meeting. Stands for student support team. This group then decides if the

child has reason to be sent for an eval. for special ed. But they drag things

out ad nauseum. They usually make some dopey plan to do some little stuff and

mostly use it to kill time. Like years in many cases. But if you have requested

an evaluation because of a known, diagnosed disability, it is supposed to

trigger an evaluation to determine eligibility for special ed and special ed

services. There is a federal timeline on this. In GA, 10 years ago, that

timeline was 45 days. So from the date you requested an evaluation for special

ed to the eligibiltiy and IEP meeting was 45 days. Our school district tried to

say this was 45 school days but we found law on point that said it was 45

calendar days. Our child was diagnosed in mid April and they wanted to wait

until September to test her. So if this PPT is not a true IEP team and is some

school based " team " they may be really out of order. But I'm not versed in CT or

recent law for that matter. I've not heard an IEP (Individual Education Plan)

called a PPT, in Texas it is an ARD. So if the PPT is a true IEP committee

there are federal rules that apply. And the feds will have a timeline. The

federal rules are the minimum. So if the federal timeline is 45 days,. the

states can have less than 45 days but not more than 45 days. Does he already

have an IEP for Other Health Impaired? If it is not a true IEP and eligibility

committee, you probably need to talk to an advocate about how to bypass this

rigamarole. in GA.

[Guest guest]

Trish, I had a thought about your situation. What exactly is a PPT? In our

district, they don't like to evaluate kids for LD or hearing etc so they have

an SST meeting. Stands for student support team. This group then decides if the

child has reason to be sent for an eval. for special ed. But they drag things

out ad nauseum. They usually make some dopey plan to do some little stuff and

mostly use it to kill time. Like years in many cases. But if you have requested

an evaluation because of a known, diagnosed disability, it is supposed to

trigger an evaluation to determine eligibility for special ed and special ed

services. There is a federal timeline on this. In GA, 10 years ago, that

timeline was 45 days. So from the date you requested an evaluation for special

ed to the eligibiltiy and IEP meeting was 45 days. Our school district tried to

say this was 45 school days but we found law on point that said it was 45

calendar days. Our child was diagnosed in mid April and they wanted to wait

until September to test her. So if this PPT is not a true IEP team and is some

school based " team " they may be really out of order. But I'm not versed in CT or

recent law for that matter. I've not heard an IEP (Individual Education Plan)

called a PPT, in Texas it is an ARD. So if the PPT is a true IEP committee

there are federal rules that apply. And the feds will have a timeline. The

federal rules are the minimum. So if the federal timeline is 45 days,. the

states can have less than 45 days but not more than 45 days. Does he already

have an IEP for Other Health Impaired? If it is not a true IEP and eligibility

committee, you probably need to talk to an advocate about how to bypass this

rigamarole. in GA.

[Guest guest]

,

A PPT stands for (and I'll only get this half right) a " parent pupil team

meeting " , or a " pupil placement teacher " meeting, or a " placement pupil team "

meeting...something like that. It is the meeting that consists of the parents

(if they want to come), a spec ed teacher, a regular teacher, the director of

student services (makes all the decisions about services for special ed kids)

and any therapists involved. The last PPT meeting we had was in April, and it

had Bobby's spec ed teacher, OT, PT, speech, the director of spec services, my

dh, me, AN ADVOCATE FROM THE STATE, (emphasis mine), THE EDUCATIONAL

AUDIOLOGIST, and I think that was it. Oh yea, because he's supposed to go into

a different school next year for kindergarten, we had the resource teacher from

the new school (spec ed case manager for Bobby) and his regular K teacher for

next year. So as you can see, it was quite a full room.

We talked about everything that would be needed for next year, and everyone

shared their goals and objectives for next year, and summaries of how things had

gone this year. This is when we found out that he had gone down two year levels

in the Batelle dev screening in just one year. So we pushed for services to

begin NOW, not to wait until next fall, and to intervene with some kind of

summer intervention. They were all agreeable, and we walked out feeling really

good about the meeting. But THEN I started going to conferences and such and

found out just how much intervention he really needs, that he can't just have a

resource teacher, and that the school staff doesn't know sqat about hearing

loss. So now to ammend the IEP further, I have to call one of these stupid PPT

meetings again, and this time I only want the director of spec services (she is

the one wh says yes or no anyway), my dh, me and the resource teacher for next

year. The only way I can get anything written on the IEP, which makes it legal

and binding, is to call one of these PPTs. and that is the only way for us to

arrange this Comprehensive Educational Evaluation from a school for the Deaf and

Hard of Hearing.

Now, according to the ADVOCATE from the state, who SHOULD know the laws, the

only law is that they have to grant me one of these PPTs in a " reasonabe " time

frame.

Now I am hearing differently, not only from you, but from soneone else who knows

the laws here in CT. They said 45 days, or maybe it was 60, I have to look at

the email again. So tell me, if you can't trust what information you get from

the PARENT ADVOCACY CENTER, then who the heck are you supposed to believe?????

I swear, I give up!

Trish

Re: IEP help. Please

Trish, I had a thought about your situation. What exactly is a PPT? In our

district, they don't like to evaluate kids for LD or hearing etc so they have

an SST meeting. Stands for student support team. This group then decides if the

child has reason to be sent for an eval. for special ed. But they drag things

out ad nauseum. They usually make some dopey plan to do some little stuff and

mostly use it to kill time. Like years in many cases. But if you have requested

an evaluation because of a known, diagnosed disability, it is supposed to

trigger an evaluation to determine eligibility for special ed and special ed

services. There is a federal timeline on this. In GA, 10 years ago, that

timeline was 45 days. So from the date you requested an evaluation for special

ed to the eligibiltiy and IEP meeting was 45 days. Our school district tried to

say this was 45 school days but we found law on point that said it was 45 cal!

endar days. Our child was diagnosed in mid April and they wanted to wait until

September to test her. So if this PPT is not a true IEP team and is some school

based " team " they may be really out of order. But I'm not versed in CT or recent

law for that matter. I've not heard an IEP (Individual Education Plan) called a

PPT, in Texas it is an ARD. So if the PPT is a true IEP committee there are

federal rules that apply. And the feds will have a timeline. The federal rules

are the minimum. So if the federal timeline is 45 days,. the states can have

less than 45 days but not more than 45 days. Does he already have an IEP for

Other Health Impaired? If it is not a true IEP and eligibility committee, you

probably need to talk to an advocate about how to bypass this rigamarole.

in GA.

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