(no subject)

[Guest guest]

Dear Grace,

We are not trying to frustrate you. We are simply telling you the truth.

This is not the rny that obese Americans get. This is a band around the

stomach so you don't feel as full. You still have to diet and exercise

whether you like it or not. It is not a magic wand. You will feel fuller

on less. If you feel it is not for you, look for an alternative. I wish I

had. You have the choice, I don't. The American rny removes part of your

intestine which leads to fats and sugars not being absorbed. This does not

happen with the lapband. Better you find this out before rather than after

the event. A positive mind is the best tool for weight loss with or

without the band.

Good luck with your choice.

Regards

At 02:14 PM 26/12/98 +1000, you wrote:

> All in all for those of you who have done it is it worth it? I have

>been so excited about this and positive in anticipation but a few of you

>are discouraging as I said. Help! Grace

[Guest guest]

Dear Grace,

We are not trying to frustrate you. We are simply telling you the truth.

This is not the rny that obese Americans get. This is a band around the

stomach so you don't feel as full. You still have to diet and exercise

whether you like it or not. It is not a magic wand. You will feel fuller

on less. If you feel it is not for you, look for an alternative. I wish I

had. You have the choice, I don't. The American rny removes part of your

intestine which leads to fats and sugars not being absorbed. This does not

happen with the lapband. Better you find this out before rather than after

the event. A positive mind is the best tool for weight loss with or

without the band.

Good luck with your choice.

Regards

At 02:14 PM 26/12/98 +1000, you wrote:

> All in all for those of you who have done it is it worth it? I have

>been so excited about this and positive in anticipation but a few of you

>are discouraging as I said. Help! Grace

[Guest guest]

Dear Grace,

We are not trying to frustrate you. We are simply telling you the truth.

This is not the rny that obese Americans get. This is a band around the

stomach so you don't feel as full. You still have to diet and exercise

whether you like it or not. It is not a magic wand. You will feel fuller

on less. If you feel it is not for you, look for an alternative. I wish I

had. You have the choice, I don't. The American rny removes part of your

intestine which leads to fats and sugars not being absorbed. This does not

happen with the lapband. Better you find this out before rather than after

the event. A positive mind is the best tool for weight loss with or

without the band.

Good luck with your choice.

Regards

At 02:14 PM 26/12/98 +1000, you wrote:

> All in all for those of you who have done it is it worth it? I have

>been so excited about this and positive in anticipation but a few of you

>are discouraging as I said. Help! Grace

[Guest guest]

Mark wrote:

>

> Hi Kimba, SeaOtter and all the rest of the Bansters, Marie again.

> Now that I've found support you'll be saying " Oh No " not that Marie

> again.

> How do you deal with negative responses I know when I've been on a

> diet people say things like, You loosing too much weight you look

> sick, Also people offering advice all the time usually these people

> are thin and can eat a truck load of food and not gain an oz.

>

> best wishes,

>

> Marie.

Marie, Just had to respond, dont you just love it when the skinny

people offer you advice ?? Better still how about when they describe

people as fat and lazy or fat and ugly or just fat. I try not to rise

to the bait but I agree that it is quite stinging.

We were once at a smart luncheon party where a women who was one of the

eternally skinny stick insect types not only described two people as fat

and lazy when telling a story but later made an anti-American slur. I

admit I am sensitive to fat slurs and to American slurs. I picked up on

the American one and actually said " What exactly do you mean " you could

hear a pin drop. I then proceeded to tell her that I thought she was

not only unobservant but ignorant and that unitl that afternoon I had

never felt the urge to describe someone and skinny with a big nose, or

skinny with bad teeth but I could see how much it added to the content

of ones anecdotes. Luckily, the chap next to me broke the silence

around the table. My husband was in shock and to tell the truth so was

I . I was embarassed that I reacted so strongly but I was very happy to

see the stunned look on her face.

You keep up the good work for you. I am trying very hard as I am sure

everyone else is not to link my self worth with my weight or with my

current dieting success or failure. Hang in there.

[Guest guest]

Mark wrote:

>

> Hi Kimba, SeaOtter and all the rest of the Bansters, Marie again.

> Now that I've found support you'll be saying " Oh No " not that Marie

> again.

> How do you deal with negative responses I know when I've been on a

> diet people say things like, You loosing too much weight you look

> sick, Also people offering advice all the time usually these people

> are thin and can eat a truck load of food and not gain an oz.

>

> best wishes,

>

> Marie.

Marie, Just had to respond, dont you just love it when the skinny

people offer you advice ?? Better still how about when they describe

people as fat and lazy or fat and ugly or just fat. I try not to rise

to the bait but I agree that it is quite stinging.

We were once at a smart luncheon party where a women who was one of the

eternally skinny stick insect types not only described two people as fat

and lazy when telling a story but later made an anti-American slur. I

admit I am sensitive to fat slurs and to American slurs. I picked up on

the American one and actually said " What exactly do you mean " you could

hear a pin drop. I then proceeded to tell her that I thought she was

not only unobservant but ignorant and that unitl that afternoon I had

never felt the urge to describe someone and skinny with a big nose, or

skinny with bad teeth but I could see how much it added to the content

of ones anecdotes. Luckily, the chap next to me broke the silence

around the table. My husband was in shock and to tell the truth so was

I . I was embarassed that I reacted so strongly but I was very happy to

see the stunned look on her face.

You keep up the good work for you. I am trying very hard as I am sure

everyone else is not to link my self worth with my weight or with my

current dieting success or failure. Hang in there.

[Guest guest]

Mark wrote:

>

> Hi Kimba, SeaOtter and all the rest of the Bansters, Marie again.

> Now that I've found support you'll be saying " Oh No " not that Marie

> again.

> How do you deal with negative responses I know when I've been on a

> diet people say things like, You loosing too much weight you look

> sick, Also people offering advice all the time usually these people

> are thin and can eat a truck load of food and not gain an oz.

>

> best wishes,

>

> Marie.

Marie, Just had to respond, dont you just love it when the skinny

people offer you advice ?? Better still how about when they describe

people as fat and lazy or fat and ugly or just fat. I try not to rise

to the bait but I agree that it is quite stinging.

We were once at a smart luncheon party where a women who was one of the

eternally skinny stick insect types not only described two people as fat

and lazy when telling a story but later made an anti-American slur. I

admit I am sensitive to fat slurs and to American slurs. I picked up on

the American one and actually said " What exactly do you mean " you could

hear a pin drop. I then proceeded to tell her that I thought she was

not only unobservant but ignorant and that unitl that afternoon I had

never felt the urge to describe someone and skinny with a big nose, or

skinny with bad teeth but I could see how much it added to the content

of ones anecdotes. Luckily, the chap next to me broke the silence

around the table. My husband was in shock and to tell the truth so was

I . I was embarassed that I reacted so strongly but I was very happy to

see the stunned look on her face.

You keep up the good work for you. I am trying very hard as I am sure

everyone else is not to link my self worth with my weight or with my

current dieting success or failure. Hang in there.

[Guest guest]

Dear Lori,

We too are goin to St General. Arriving Thurs evening, hospital

appointment at 8 am friday...the first day of the rest of my life......i am

goin with a group of girls and fellows i've met through the net and NY...they

are wonderful. I cant wait and will update u when we returnXXOOXX

Ibselle

[Guest guest]

D'Orazio wrote:

>

>

>

> Hi all

>

> I am finally back at home...What a bloody nightmare the last 2 weeks

> have been !!

>

> When the band was fitted it made a small tear in the stomach, for the

> week I had it in I was in soooo much pain in my rib cage ( I new things

> were not right )

> after I had a B swallow ( YUK ) they could see the stomach was

> leaking....because of the pain I insisted the band be removed ( NO

> REGRETS ABOUT THAT )

> I was just to scared and I also had pneumonia.

>

> While having band removed and stomach repaired my left lounge

> collapsed,, I spent 2 days in ICU tube in my lung,stomach,and in my

> nose draining my stomach ( I can remember asking the nurse if I was

> going to be all right??? and she kept saying that I had to get through

> the first 48 hours....I have never been sooooo scared in my whole life ,

> all I could think of was my husband and children and why I took the risk

> )

>

> I know if all went well I would be praising the band but sadly it didnt

> go well and I will not consider the band again.

>

> and just to add ...I have lost 10 kilos and believe me it will not stop

> there.

>

> I think people need to hear my side of the story ( if I would have

> talked to some one who had been through what I went through...I don't

> know if it would have made any difference to my decision )

>

> any way I am going to hang around for a while ( Bandsters )

>

> at the moment I am easily exhausted and it will take a good 6 weeks to

> recover.

>

> My best wishes to you all.

>

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Dear ,

Our thoughts and all of our good wishes are with you. I realize now

that those of us who have had surgeries without incident are rather

cavalier and casual about the surgery. In fact, I think I likened it to

having your wisdom teeth out pain and discomfort wise. Your unfortunate

experience has certainly made me realize what a serious step this

operation is. I am truly sorry that you have had this trouble.

I thank you for sharing your story with us, we need to know these things

as does everyone else contemplating the surgery. I know that I can

speak for everyone when I say that we are all here for you and will help

in any way we can as you recover and try to forget your horriffic

experience.

A big hug !!

Suzanne

[Guest guest]

,

Well, *I* think my story is a greatly successful one, but only because I

wasn't expecting too much and have been really patient with the band. I had

mine done at the beginning of October last year. I have always been kind of

plump (around 65kgs at 5ft2), but after my daughter was born my weight

settled in at about 82 to 88kgs, and I was miserable as all of the women in

my family are obese and I could see I was heading down the same path.

So I found the band on A Current Affair or some such program and immediately

looked it up on the net...shopped around for surgeons and four months later

found myself on the operating table. I was 88.9kgs on the morning of the op.

I am now 74kgs. This is less weight loss than you! However!! I am ecstatic

about it. I feel better at this weight than I used to at 65kgs...I guess

just knowing where I have come from and what could have been has kept a

smile on my face. My ideal weight is, apparently, 55 to 60kgs. However, the

goal I set myself before the surgery was 68kgs. I think that is the most

realistic weight for my body considering my genetics.

I really haven't noticed the weight loss at all! I mean...it hasn't been a

struggle for me. I don't really watch what I eat. I have a bit of chocolate

every day if I want to. I have not done a single bit of exercise, other than

walk the daughter and the dog up to the post office about 3 times a week. It

is really the portions that I am forced to eat (being much smaller) that

have made the difference. I lost most of the weight during the liquid phase,

but since then have lost about 7 kgs, VERY SLOWLY. (I only weigh myself once

a month and have resolved not to be obsessed with it) I'm not in too much of

a hurry. I haven't even bought too many new clothes. I just love the feeling

of my old clothes falling off me. It reminds me of my good fortune every

day.

Is there any way you can have the operation done again? This was the only

answer for me, and believe me, I tried all of them. Don't go back to

starvation diets !! I understand why you want to.... Is having the

surgery done again totally out? You have been so good-natured about your

misfortune vs the rest of our's luck. (I would have been spitting chips and

logged off by now!!) I would love to share your success with you.

Steph.

[Guest guest]

I think if I considered the OP again (my husband would leave me,,after what we

went through,,, " " I say WE " " as it was a lot on him too ! ) and I m to

scared,,for me it's NOT like falling of a horse.....No I couldn't consider a

nother OP.

I kept telling my husband that the band was my last chance at loosing weight ( I

felt quite desperate ) I suppose I'm feeling a bit sorry for my self now,,,as I

am back at the start and I don't really know what to do ( I suppose I have brain

washed my self about how the band was going to help me and it was my last chance

at loosing weight ,, and If I had it in I am sure It would have helped me)

Gee I am dribbling some crap,,,,I just have to change my attitude to loosing

weight

( only been trying to do that for 10 years,,,hopefuly it will sink in soon )

Yours is a good story ,,it sounds like you tackled the weight problem BEFORE it

got to out of hand,,,that was a brave decision.

wrote:

>

>

> ,

>

> Well, *I* think my story is a greatly successful one, but only because I

> wasn't expecting too much and have been really patient with the band. I had

> mine done at the beginning of October last year. I have always been kind of

> plump (around 65kgs at 5ft2), but after my daughter was born my weight

> settled in at about 82 to 88kgs, and I was miserable as all of the women in

> my family are obese and I could see I was heading down the same path.

>

> So I found the band on A Current Affair or some such program and immediately

> looked it up on the net...shopped around for surgeons and four months later

> found myself on the operating table. I was 88.9kgs on the morning of the op.

> I am now 74kgs. This is less weight loss than you! However!! I am ecstatic

> about it. I feel better at this weight than I used to at 65kgs...I guess

> just knowing where I have come from and what could have been has kept a

> smile on my face. My ideal weight is, apparently, 55 to 60kgs. However, the

> goal I set myself before the surgery was 68kgs. I think that is the most

> realistic weight for my body considering my genetics.

>

> I really haven't noticed the weight loss at all! I mean...it hasn't been a

> struggle for me. I don't really watch what I eat. I have a bit of chocolate

> every day if I want to. I have not done a single bit of exercise, other than

> walk the daughter and the dog up to the post office about 3 times a week. It

> is really the portions that I am forced to eat (being much smaller) that

> have made the difference. I lost most of the weight during the liquid phase,

> but since then have lost about 7 kgs, VERY SLOWLY. (I only weigh myself once

> a month and have resolved not to be obsessed with it) I'm not in too much of

> a hurry. I haven't even bought too many new clothes. I just love the feeling

> of my old clothes falling off me. It reminds me of my good fortune every

> day.

>

> Is there any way you can have the operation done again? This was the only

> answer for me, and believe me, I tried all of them. Don't go back to

> starvation diets !! I understand why you want to.... Is having the

> surgery done again totally out? You have been so good-natured about your

> misfortune vs the rest of our's luck. (I would have been spitting chips and

> logged off by now!!) I would love to share your success with you.

>

> Steph.

>

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[Guest guest]

Are you going to Mexico???

I am scheduled for May 4

(no subject)

Welcome Caryn,

I have with the list for about 3 weeks, and my b-day is May 5. The groups as

been extremely helpful with information, understanding, and general nice people

type caring. Every question I have posted has been answered within 24 hours in

honest and informative ways. I am glad you are here..I am a bit nervous about

the surgery myself.

Ask those questions!

Deb Franek

[Guest guest]

Are you going to Mexico???

I am scheduled for May 4

(no subject)

Welcome Caryn,

I have with the list for about 3 weeks, and my b-day is May 5. The groups as

been extremely helpful with information, understanding, and general nice people

type caring. Every question I have posted has been answered within 24 hours in

honest and informative ways. I am glad you are here..I am a bit nervous about

the surgery myself.

Ask those questions!

Deb Franek

[Guest guest]

Are you going to Mexico???

I am scheduled for May 4

(no subject)

Welcome Caryn,

I have with the list for about 3 weeks, and my b-day is May 5. The groups as

been extremely helpful with information, understanding, and general nice people

type caring. Every question I have posted has been answered within 24 hours in

honest and informative ways. I am glad you are here..I am a bit nervous about

the surgery myself.

Ask those questions!

Deb Franek

[Guest guest]

Jen,, I am so happy for you,, May G-d grant you all that is good for you,,

and all in the rite time,,

Good Luck with everything, and may you be the bearer of good news

Caryn

[Guest guest]

All I can say is congratulations Jen!!!! Ken

(no subject)

>

>

>YYYYEEEEEAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

>

>Today was my first doctors appointment since I got the band in

>Monterrey. And the first time I have been weighed.

>

>I have lost 14 pounds in 2 weeks. ) I am soooo happy!

>

>YYYEEEEAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

>

>Now I too have fat for sale. Mine is still pretty pricey but the cost

>will be going down and only down. There will be no increase only a

>decrease...

>

>YYYEEEEAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

>

>I was so afraid to get on that scale. I thought, " What am I going to

>do when I am the only person in history that had her stomache altered

>and still gained weight. " But I didn't, I lost.

>

>YYYEEEEAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

>

>I thought I could tell when I first got back from Mexico and my husband

>says that he can tell but he probably wouldn't say otherwise. And the

>last couple of days when I look in the mirror I have been thinking, " No

>you look the same. " But I don't, I look 14 pounds lighter.

>

>Dorit, I am not going to sell you my 14 pounds, but I can tell you from

>a person that felt hopeless three weeks ago, these are 14 pounds I will

>NEVER gain back. And you too will have a sale on fat, first 14, then

>20, then 40, then 60 until you are exactly where you want to be. And I

>will be so happy to see all the fat for sale, but I am not going to buy

>any. ) I believe all of us will be okay. But most of all I believe

>in you, and I believe in me.

>

>Thank you so much everyone. Listening to everyones stories and

>achievements has made it so much easier for me. Thank you.

>

>Steadily shrinking~

>

>Jen

>

>_________________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Good luck and I hope that you get your date soon.

Love

Janet

At 22:17 11/05/99 +0930, you wrote:

> Hi Bansters Marie Here yet again just writing a few words to let you

>all know that I have a appointment to see my surgeon on the 20th of this

>month hopefully to book a date for my surgery. I'll try to keep you all

>informed of my progress.

[Guest guest]

Dear Janet, Thanks so much for the reassurance! I was getting worried.

Love, Elaine

[Guest guest]

Dear Sue,

You speak with such wisdom. Wisdom and maturity occur with age and the

older we get, the more we realise how immature we were at an earlier age.

But at the time we think we know everything. My eight year old said those

dreaded words to me the other day. " Mum, you never listen to me! " and I

thought, yes I do. I do listen to her, but do I actually hear her. The

older I get, the more I realise that the less I know. My father is

obviously more mature than he was when I was a teenager. He is actually

listening to what I have to say now - not only that but agreeing with me

that he didn't know everything and for that I love him. My mother - I have

emotionally distanced from and I realise now that it is not just me but

everyone else around her that she is unable to relate to in a emotionally

enhancing way. That I have to live with.

At 12:09 12/06/1999 -0400, you wrote:

>From: Sson@... (Sue son)

>

>Dear Dorit,

>

>Honey, you can't change your parents. The only person you can change is

>yourself. You are just setting yourself and your father up for a bad

>experience when you bring your ideas to him for review. You want

>support and he doesn't know how to give it. He is a college professor

>and may think he is doing you a favor by giving you the benefit of his

>critique as he would give a student. Give yourself and your father a

>break by attempting to relate to him as you would to any other person

>with whom you were not so emotionally dependent. I hope you don't get

>upset everytime your neighbor or an acquaintance disagrees with you.

>Learn to make social conversation with him. Ask him about himself and

>listen to him talk as you know he loves to do. Try to keep the

>relationship pleasant since you know it will never be emotionally

>satisfying. This is called emotional distancing and it is part of

>becoming an adult not to be so dependent and demanding of one's parents.

>I think one of the most difficult things young people do is to demand

>that their parents agree with them and support their ideas. My father

>and stepmother have many opinions with which I do not agree but I just

>let it pass and enjoy being with them. At 88 years of age, they are way

>to old to argue with. And at 51, I am too old to be arguing with my

>parents. You are still living as a child in your parent or

>grandparents' home and financially dependent on them. When you are

>self-supporting and living in your own home, you will be more centered

>in yourself and less concerned with what your parents think. Enjoy

>those few years before you have children of your own who demand that you

>agree with them. Love, Sue

>

>

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[Guest guest]

This is a questionnaire to get to know your friends better. Read through the comments below about your friend and then make sure you read the instructions at the bottom. Have Fun 1. What time is it? 7:11p.m.

2. Name on Birth Certificate: Gayle 3. Nicknames: Oui-z(weezy)

4. Piercing: ears ONLY5. What is the most recent movie you've seen in the theater: Fun with Dick and Jane6. Eye color: Hazel7. Place of Birth: Wichita Falls, TX8. Favorite food: Mexican

9. Ever been to Africa? No 10. Ever been toilet papering? Yes 11. Love someone so much it made you cry? Yes 12. Been in a car accident? Yes 13. Croutons or bacon bits: Both 14. Favorite day of the week: Saturday

15. Favorite restaurant: El Chico

16. Favorite flower: carnations 17. Favorite sport to watch: WFHS Coyote Football18. Person you miss the most: My husband19. Favorite ice cream: Chocolate20. Disney or Warner Brothers: Disney21. Favorite fast food restaurant: Taco Bueno

22. What color is your bedroom carpet: dirty beige

23. How many times did you fail your driver's test: Didn't 24. Before this one, from whom did you get your last e-mail: Texas Tops25. Which store would you choose to max out your credit card: Walmart26. What do you do most often when you are bored? sleep28. Who will respond to this e-mail the quickest? Caitlin

29. Who is the person you sent this to that is least likely to respond? Leesa Moran30. Who are you most curious about their responses to this questionnaire? No certain one 31. Favorite TV shows: That 70s show; Degrassi32. Last person you went to dinner with: My 2 daughters and mother in law33. Ford or Chevy: Chevy34. What are you listening to right now? the fan

35. What is your favorite color? orange, purple36. Lake, Ocean or River: lake

37. How many tattoos do you have? 0

38. Time you finished this e-mail: 7:18pm39. How many people are you sending this e-mail to? several

40. Favorite recreation activity: bike riding

41. Favorite place you have been: Disney World42. Place you'd like to go: Las Vegas43. Favorite Alcoholic Beverage: Pina Coladas

44. Preferred Pet: Dog 45. Worst Food you've tasted: with my size there must not be too many that were bad enough not to eat againHere's what you're supposed to do. And please do not spoil the fun.

Copy (NOT forward) this entire a-mail and paste it onto a new e-mail that you will send. Change all of the answers so that they apply to you. Then send this to a whole bunch of people you know INCLUDING the person who sent it to you. The theory is that you will learn a lot of little known facts about those who know you. Remember to send it back to the one that sent it to you.