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Did they change the reason for denial? If so, contact your State Insurance Agency./insurance commissioner and ask them if this is allowed in your state. Generally insurance companies have to stand by the first denial and can't suddenly change if information is given to refute the reason for the 1st denial. This may or may not be the case in your state, though. If they did not change the reason, you can still call your State Insurance Angency and ask questions -- they may be able to help direct you to what steps to take next. Do you have any more appeals left? National Insurance Commissioners http://www.naic.org/Mom to Quinn, born 11/99, DOCband grad 10/00 for scaphocephalic head shape>------- Original Message ------->From : White Mackey[mailto:nikki_chica22@...]>Sent :/

STRONG> 2/15/2008 6:06:38 PM>To : Plagiocephaly >Cc : >Subject : RE: 2nd Denial>>Help! We just got our second denial from UHC, based on orthotic appliances are excluded. Should I appeal again? I had an 8 page letter stating evidence, letter of medical necessity from the doctors, evidence to support it was necessary. HOW MUCH MORE OBVIOUS CAN IT BE??? Doesn't this completely go against some law somewhere, when insurance companies refuse to pay for treatment which is medically necessary? Help!For more plagio info

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Does your specific policy exclude orthotic devices? If so, then I

really don't think (no matter how many appeals) that you'd win. We

have UHC and were reimbursed 80% (as we thought we'd get from our

policy). I agree with you that it is obvious that the band is

medically necessary; however, I think the problem is that many

insurance companies (along with doctors) think that this is a

cosmetic issue and they don't view it as medically necessary. I'm

not sure if you should appeal again or not. What was the reason for

the first denial?

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> Did they change the reason for denial?

> If so, contact your State Insurance Agency./insurance commissioner

and ask them if this is allowed in your state. Generally insurance

companies have to stand by the first denial and can't suddenly

change if information is given to refute the reason for the 1st

denial. This may or may not be the case in your state, though.

>

> If they did not change the reason, you can still call your State

Insurance Angency and ask questions -- they may be able to help

direct you to what steps to take next. Do you have any more appeals

left?

>

> National Insurance Commissioners http://www.naic.org/

>

>

> Mom to Quinn, born 11/99, DOCband grad 10/00 for scaphocephalic

head shape

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> >------- Original Message -------

> >From : White Mackey[mailto:nikki_chica22@...]

> >Sent : 2/15/2008 6:06:38 PM

> >To : Plagiocephaly

> >Cc :

> >Subject : RE: 2nd Denial

> >

> >Help! We just got our second denial from UHC, based on orthotic

> appliances are excluded. Should I appeal again? I had an 8 page

> letter stating evidence, letter of medical necessity from the

doctors,

> evidence to support it was necessary. HOW MUCH MORE OBVIOUS CAN IT

> BE??? Doesn't this completely go against some law somewhere, when

> insurance companies refuse to pay for treatment which is medically

> necessary? Help!

>

>

>

> For more plagio info

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If you have an exclusion - then I think that's it - that is excluded. Like when you have dental insurance and they exclude treatment for TMJ - you can't get them to pay for your TMJ. I may be wrong... hopefully if someone has successfully appealled an exclusion - they will speak up!

Also, look thru old messages to see if anyone has posted about it in the past.

Jen and Luli - 26 months

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2nd Denial

Help! We just got our second denial from UHC, based on orthotic

appliances are excluded. Should I appeal again? I had an 8 page

letter stating evidence, letter of medical necessity from the doctors,

evidence to support it was necessary. HOW MUCH MORE OBVIOUS CAN IT

BE??? Doesn't this completely go against some law somewhere, when

insurance companies refuse to pay for treatment which is medically

necessary? Help!

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my insurance denied my sons helmet first but the orthotist took

pictures of his head and sent them to insurance co for more

proof..and he was then approved..ask your orthotist to send in

pictures showing the severity of the babies head

> >

> >

> > Did they change the reason for denial?

> > If so, contact your State Insurance Agency./insurance

commissioner

> and ask them if this is allowed in your state. Generally insurance

> companies have to stand by the first denial and can't suddenly

> change if information is given to refute the reason for the 1st

> denial. This may or may not be the case in your state, though.

> >

> > If they did not change the reason, you can still call your State

> Insurance Angency and ask questions -- they may be able to help

> direct you to what steps to take next. Do you have any more appeals

> left?

> >

> > National Insurance Commissioners http://www.naic.org/

> >

> >

> > Mom to Quinn, born 11/99, DOCband grad 10/00 for scaphocephalic

> head shape

> >

> > >------- Original Message -------

> > >From : White Mackey[ mailto:nikki_chica22@]

> > >Sent : 2/15/2008 6:06:38 PM

> > >To : Plagiocephaly

> > >Cc :

> > >Subject : RE: 2nd Denial

> > >

> > >Help! We just got our second denial from UHC, based on orthotic

> > appliances are excluded. Should I appeal again? I had an 8 page

> > letter stating evidence, letter of medical necessity from the

> doctors,

> > evidence to support it was necessary. HOW MUCH MORE OBVIOUS CAN

IT

> > BE??? Doesn't this completely go against some law somewhere, when

> > insurance companies refuse to pay for treatment which is

medically

> > necessary? Help!

> >

> >

> >

> > For more plagio info

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for us it was weird, my son was measuring moderate to severe so definitely needed it but everyone (but us and experts) said they couildnt " see " it, the case worker approved it on measurements but when she got the pics she said he didnt look bad at all so i think for us just sending pics would have hurt us, measurements dided it for us, but most insurances approve at 9 or 10 and we had a 17

On Feb 17, 2008 3:29 PM, bobbiejoe04 <bobbiejoe04@...> wrote:

my insurance denied my sons helmet first but the orthotist took pictures of his head and sent them to insurance co for more proof..and he was then approved..ask your orthotist to send in pictures showing the severity of the babies head > >

> >

> > Did they change the reason for denial? > > If so, contact your State Insurance Agency./insurance commissioner > and ask them if this is allowed in your state. Generally insurance

> companies have to stand by the first denial and can't suddenly > change if information is given to refute the reason for the 1st > denial. This may or may not be the case in your state, though.

> > > > If they did not change the reason, you can still call your State > Insurance Angency and ask questions -- they may be able to help > direct you to what steps to take next. Do you have any more appeals

> left? > > > > National Insurance Commissioners http://www.naic.org/ > > > > > > Mom to Quinn, born 11/99, DOCband grad 10/00 for scaphocephalic

> head shape> > > > >------- Original Message -------> > >From : White Mackey[ mailto:nikki_chica22@] > > >Sent : 2/15/2008 6:06:38 PM

> > >To : Plagiocephaly > > >Cc : > > >Subject : RE: 2nd Denial> > >> > >Help! We just got our second denial from UHC, based on orthotic

> > appliances are excluded. Should I appeal again? I had an 8 page > > letter stating evidence, letter of medical necessity from the > doctors, > > evidence to support it was necessary. HOW MUCH MORE OBVIOUS CAN

IT > > BE??? Doesn't this completely go against some law somewhere, when > > insurance companies refuse to pay for treatment which is medically > > necessary? Help!> > > >

> > > > For more plagio info

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This may be a long shot, but I read somewhere that if you can give

names of patients that have been approved for the DOC band therapy

that were previously denied for the same reason you were, you can

appeal on discrimination. Our exclusion was based on " orthotic

appliances that straighten or re-shape a body part (including some

types of braces). So this is my request: if you were previously

denied coverage from UHC based on this exclusion (or something

similar) and were later covered, AND would like to give me your name

and your child's name to use in another appeal letter, please email

me. I would keep your names completely confidential and use them

only for my letter, and then erase them. I know it's a long shot and

some of you may not feel comfortable doing this, but we would really

appreciate it if you could. Please email me so your info won't be on

the web.

Thanks!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Did they change the reason for denial?

> > > > If so, contact your State Insurance Agency./insurance

> > commissioner

> > > and ask them if this is allowed in your state. Generally

insurance

> > > companies have to stand by the first denial and can't suddenly

> > > change if information is given to refute the reason for the 1st

> > > denial. This may or may not be the case in your state, though.

> > > >

> > > > If they did not change the reason, you can still call your

State

> > > Insurance Angency and ask questions -- they may be able to help

> > > direct you to what steps to take next. Do you have any more

appeals

> > > left?

> > > >

> > > > National Insurance Commissioners http://www.naic.org/

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Mom to Quinn, born 11/99, DOCband grad 10/00 for

scaphocephalic

> > > head shape

> > > >

> > > > >------- Original Message -------

> > > > >From : White Mackey[ mailto:nikki_chica22@]

> > > > >Sent : 2/15/2008 6:06:38 PM

> > > > >To : Plagiocephaly <Plagiocephaly%

40>

> > > > >Cc :

> > > > >Subject : RE: 2nd Denial

> > > > >

> > > > >Help! We just got our second denial from UHC, based on

orthotic

> > > > appliances are excluded. Should I appeal again? I had an 8

page

> > > > letter stating evidence, letter of medical necessity from the

> > > doctors,

> > > > evidence to support it was necessary. HOW MUCH MORE OBVIOUS

CAN

> > IT

> > > > BE??? Doesn't this completely go against some law somewhere,

when

> > > > insurance companies refuse to pay for treatment which is

> > medically

> > > > necessary? Help!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > For more plagio info

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