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In a message dated 1/22/2006 9:29:45 AM Eastern Standard Time,

kimberlylynne1405@... writes:

My question is you trust Dr. A to write a book and

follow what is inside that book but you don't trust

him to endorse a product?

That kind of sums it up for me. I think he wrote a fantastic book with a lot

of great, useful information that really works for people seeking to improve

their health and/or lose weight.

However, I do think he was seduced by the big bucks that come along with any

commerically endorsed product.

Regardless of what expert you're listening to, you can't have blind faith. A

lot of the stuff that is being endorsed by Dr. A. today is a direct conflict

to principles he set forth in his original book.

Now, are you wrong for eating those foods if you are following SBD? No. Is

every new food carrying the SBD logo a conflict? No. But should you question if

certain foods and food products are really in line with your goals for living

a healthier lifestyle and losing weight, even if it carries the SBD logo?

Absolutely.

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Hi..

I started the SBD before the book came out. I live in Florida and have a

friend in the Miami area, and she was on it, and I started it then. There were

no

products from Kraft at that time, You ate whole foods, nothing processed and

no sugar. Many many people lost weight then, as they do now, and many doctors

were recommending the diet to their patients.

When this book was written, there were consultants, nutritionists, I am

sure. I have read the book about 4 times, and have stayed on the program that

is

in the book. I do not eat any of the Kraft products, as that is my choice,

and don't fault anyone that does. I am saddened to see that Dr. A has endorsed

these products, but that was his choice.

This is a great way of life, an easy way to lose weight and this group is

marvelous for support. It does work, if you follow the original system, and it

is a healthy way to eat, that I can vouch for in my blood work and EKG just

done.

This is my opinion, only and that does not make it correct. I have been on

SBD a long time and believe in the original concept of the diet, and wanted to

share my view.

Di

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In a message dated 1/22/2006 11:47:48 AM Eastern Standard Time,

noctaire@... writes:

There are several things that I think are totally off, such

as the banishment of corn and potatoes until P3.

,

That was an awesome post! I nodded along a lot. Just curious, why do you

think the above are " totally off " ? I guess that's the one area I disagree -

although I love corn and potatoes, to me that's nature's junk food. It makes

good

sense that they are a phase 3 item.

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There are just so many differences between what's in the blue book and

what's in the Kraft products that are now being endorsed as " South Beach " .

I don't buy any of the South Beach products, the same reason why I don't buy

the convenience foods...there are too many ingredients listed that aren't

South Beach friendly - at least not in the way Dr. A originally wrote the

book.

BTW - did any of you notice the new breakfast bars with raisins? Raisins

are on the " Foods to avoid " list, yet are now okay?

Devonna

> Re: Trusting Dr A

>

> In a message dated 1/22/2006 9:29:45 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> kimberlylynne1405@... writes:

> My question is you trust Dr. A to write a book and

> follow what is inside that book but you don't trust

> him to endorse a product?

>

> That kind of sums it up for me. I think he wrote a fantastic book with a

lot

> of great, useful information that really works for people seeking to

improve

> their health and/or lose weight.

>

> However, I do think he was seduced by the big bucks that come along with

any

> commerically endorsed product.

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You asked for recommendations for a vegetarian diet. The book

recommends whole foods, for both vegetarians and nonvegetarians.

Whole foods would be things like homemade lentil-barley burgers,

homemade tofu-buckwheat burgers, homemade lentil soup, homemade bean

soup, brown rice, fat free refried beans, tofu, barley, meat-free

chili made with beans and TVP, steel cut oats, old fashioned oatmeal,

hot buckwheat cereal, nuts, seeds, whole fruit and veggies. They are

all fine for phase 2, as is whole grain bread and whole grain pasta

in moderation. Take a look at the list of vegetarian foods on

the " foods to enjoy " list.

I don't know if you eat dairy/eggs or not, but if you do, you can

have scrambled eggs, fried eggs, omelets, quiches and plain or

artificially sweetened yogurt.

Di, and I all have healthy vegetarian recipes you could have if

you want to do this right.

Yes, do trust what Dr. A. says, which is to read ingredients before

you eat processed foods. If you want to eat the SBD endorsed

products, that is fine. That is a personal choice that some will do

and some won't. I love the SBD cookies myself and have them on rare

occasions. Same with the SBD frozen dinners. I like them and have

them on rare occasions. But, as you said, the particular patty you

ate was not SBD endorsed.

ann

> My question is you trust Dr. A to write a book and

> follow what is inside that book but you don't trust

> him to endorse a product? How can you trust him at

> all? No one says that you have eat ALL the endorsed

> products every day but they are within SB limits. I

> just don't understand your thinking. It's like you

> want to pick and choose which it is you want to

> believe. What would you recommend eating being that I

> am Vegetarian? Any suggestions?

>

> kimberly

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You asked for recommendations for a vegetarian diet. The book

recommends whole foods, for both vegetarians and nonvegetarians.

Whole foods would be things like homemade lentil-barley burgers,

homemade tofu-buckwheat burgers, homemade lentil soup, homemade bean

soup, brown rice, fat free refried beans, tofu, barley, meat-free

chili made with beans and TVP, steel cut oats, old fashioned oatmeal,

hot buckwheat cereal, nuts, seeds, whole fruit and veggies. They are

all fine for phase 2, as is whole grain bread and whole grain pasta

in moderation. Take a look at the list of vegetarian foods on

the " foods to enjoy " list.

I don't know if you eat dairy/eggs or not, but if you do, you can

have scrambled eggs, fried eggs, omelets, quiches and plain or

artificially sweetened yogurt.

Di, and I all have healthy vegetarian recipes you could have if

you want to do this right.

Yes, do trust what Dr. A. says, which is to read ingredients before

you eat processed foods. If you want to eat the SBD endorsed

products, that is fine. That is a personal choice that some will do

and some won't. I love the SBD cookies myself and have them on rare

occasions. Same with the SBD frozen dinners. I like them and have

them on rare occasions. But, as you said, the particular patty you

ate was not SBD endorsed.

ann

> My question is you trust Dr. A to write a book and

> follow what is inside that book but you don't trust

> him to endorse a product? How can you trust him at

> all? No one says that you have eat ALL the endorsed

> products every day but they are within SB limits. I

> just don't understand your thinking. It's like you

> want to pick and choose which it is you want to

> believe. What would you recommend eating being that I

> am Vegetarian? Any suggestions?

>

> kimberly

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Having started South Beach immediately after the book first came out, my

wife and I both share the same opinion as you do. The original plan

works and works well.

We have never purchased any of the SBD " processed " foods either (there

are products with the SBD sticker - like cheese - that we do use). We

also have been in line at the grocery store and watched people unload

half a cart of these pre-packaged foods. We just stand there and shake

our heads. We know it won't work to just load up on this stuff.

In any event, will deviations from the original plan work? Maybe for

some people. But we've decided to stay with what we know works.

Chuck

Teddyberen@... wrote:

>Hi..

>I started the SBD before the book came out. I live in Florida and have a

>friend in the Miami area, and she was on it, and I started it then. There were

no

>products from Kraft at that time, You ate whole foods, nothing processed and

>no sugar. Many many people lost weight then, as they do now, and many doctors

>were recommending the diet to their patients.

>

>When this book was written, there were consultants, nutritionists, I am

>sure. I have read the book about 4 times, and have stayed on the program that

is

> in the book. I do not eat any of the Kraft products, as that is my choice,

>and don't fault anyone that does. I am saddened to see that Dr. A has endorsed

>these products, but that was his choice.

>

>This is a great way of life, an easy way to lose weight and this group is

>marvelous for support. It does work, if you follow the original system, and

it

>is a healthy way to eat, that I can vouch for in my blood work and EKG just

>done.

>

>This is my opinion, only and that does not make it correct. I have been on

>SBD a long time and believe in the original concept of the diet, and wanted to

>share my view.

>

>Di

>

>

>

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