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Hi Laurie,

Sorry to hear that with the constant use of the joystick that your arm is

causing you some cramping and spasms. I don't use this type of chair yet, but I

do have an idea that might help.

Have you tried or thought about using a FiberFlix Elastic Bandage? I get

horrible cramps and pain in my wrist at times and when that happens I use this.

The brand I use is called Spenco, but i am sure there are other brands out

there. What i like about this brand is that it has a *Starter Loop* which allows

for easier positioning. It is washable, and heavy duty for joints. And it uses

velcro as a fastener instead of those clips or pins. I have had mine for over 2

yrs. now and it looks just like the day I bought it. They are also available for

wrists, ankles, knees, and elbows.

For more information :

www.spenco.com

or call 1-

Hope this helps. And I hope your arm starts feeling better soon.

Hugs,

Ann-Marie

power wheelchairs

Hi

For those of you who use power wheelchairs with a joystick, I need help. My

right arm (joystick arm) is cramping and having spasms from using the

joystick. Does anyone else have this problem and/or a way to solve it. It

hurts all the time and I could use some way to lessen the pain. The chair

seems to fit okay and was checked by the wheelchair seating clinic.

laurie

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Laurie,

Do you think that you would be better suited to have the joystick on the left?

You can also get push button controls. The joy-stick is functionally replaced

by 4 push-buttons. A therapist has to assess the user to determine where the

push-buttons should be located.

Hope this is helpful and you can solve the problem. Sorry you are dealing with

this now.

Alice

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Alice

I think I would have the same problem on the left. Too bad I can't switch

sides - when one hurts, then switch. I think the buttons would present the

same problem as it seems to be holding my arm in the same position and

making the small muscle corrections. I think I will make an appointment to

have the wheelchair folks see if they can come up with something, unless

someone here has an idea that will help. Once I start on the Creatine maybe

I will see a difference.

Thanks for the ideas.

laurie

>

> Reply-To:

> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 17:43:23 -0600

> To: >

> Subject: Re: power wheelchairs

>

> Laurie,

>

> Do you think that you would be better suited to have the joystick on the left?

> You can also get push button controls. The joy-stick is functionally replaced

> by 4 push-buttons. A therapist has to assess the user to determine where the

> push-buttons should be located.

>

> Hope this is helpful and you can solve the problem. Sorry you are dealing

> with this now.

>

> Alice

>

>

right arm (joystick arm) is cramping and having spasms from using the

> joystick. Does anyone else have this problem and/or a way to solve it. It

> hurts all the time and I could use some way to lessen the pain. The chair

> seems to fit okay and was checked by the wheelchair seating clinic. laurie>

>

>

>

>

>

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Ann-Marie

Thanks for the idea. I will check it out.

laurie

>

> Reply-To:

> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:43:05 -0400

> To: >

> Subject: Re: power wheelchairs

>

> Hi Laurie,

>

> Sorry to hear that with the constant use of the joystick that your arm is

> causing you some cramping and spasms. I don't use this type of chair yet, but

> I do have an idea that might help.

>

> Have you tried or thought about using a FiberFlix Elastic Bandage? I get

> horrible cramps and pain in my wrist at times and when that happens I use

> this.

>

> The brand I use is called Spenco, but i am sure there are other brands out

> there. What i like about this brand is that it has a *Starter Loop* which

> allows for easier positioning. It is washable, and heavy duty for joints. And

> it uses velcro as a fastener instead of those clips or pins. I have had mine

> for over 2 yrs. now and it looks just like the day I bought it. They are also

> available for wrists, ankles, knees, and elbows.

>

> For more information :

>

> www.spenco.com

>

> or call 1-

>

> Hope this helps. And I hope your arm starts feeling better soon.

>

> Hugs,

> Ann-Marie

> power wheelchairs

>

>

> Hi

>

> For those of you who use power wheelchairs with a joystick, I need help. My

> right arm (joystick arm) is cramping and having spasms from using the

> joystick. Does anyone else have this problem and/or a way to solve it. It

> hurts all the time and I could use some way to lessen the pain. The chair

> seems to fit okay and was checked by the wheelchair seating clinic.

>

> laurie

>

>

>

> Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements contained herein

> are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of this e mail is

> entirely responsible for its content. List members are reminded of their

> responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and consult with their

> physicians regarding changes in their own treatment.

>

> Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone who sends one is

> automatically moderated or removed depending on the severity of the attack.

>

>

>

>

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Dear Laurie, it does sound a good idea to have the OT who assessed you

for your power chair to have a look at the problem. My joy stick is

right under my right arm and very confortable, and the " know " I

actually use is a big one, like a door know, which I chose over the

narrower one. I laso use an elastic type bandage on my right arm most

of the time and it really helps (just below the elbow), Celia

> Alice

>

> I think I would have the same problem on the left. Too bad I can't

switch

> sides - when one hurts, then switch. I think the buttons would

present the

> same problem as it seems to be holding my arm in the same position and

> making the small muscle corrections. I think I will make an

appointment to

> have the wheelchair folks see if they can come up with something, unless

> someone here has an idea that will help. Once I start on the

Creatine maybe

> I will see a difference.

>

> Thanks for the ideas.

>

> laurie

>

> > From: " A ADAMS "

> > Reply-To:

> > Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 17:43:23 -0600

> > To: >

> > Subject: Re: power wheelchairs

> >

> > Laurie,

> >

> > Do you think that you would be better suited to have the joystick

on the left?

> > You can also get push button controls. The joy-stick is

functionally replaced

> > by 4 push-buttons. A therapist has to assess the user to

determine where the

> > push-buttons should be located.

> >

> > Hope this is helpful and you can solve the problem. Sorry you are

dealing

> > with this now.

> >

> > Alice

> >

> >

> right arm (joystick arm) is cramping and having spasms from using the

> > joystick. Does anyone else have this problem and/or a way to solve

it. It

> > hurts all the time and I could use some way to lessen the pain.

The chair

> > seems to fit okay and was checked by the wheelchair seating

clinic. laurie>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Celia

Thanks for the idea. I think I may try a tennis ball over my control and see

if it helps. If it does, then I will see about getting a larger one. I'll

also try the elastic bandage as you do.

laurie

>

> Reply-To:

> Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 17:47:09 -0000

> To:

> Subject: Re: power wheelchairs

>

> Dear Laurie, it does sound a good idea to have the OT who assessed you

> for your power chair to have a look at the problem. My joy stick is

> right under my right arm and very confortable, and the " know " I

> actually use is a big one, like a door know, which I chose over the

> narrower one. I laso use an elastic type bandage on my right arm most

> of the time and it really helps (just below the elbow), Celia

>

>

>> Alice

>>

>> I think I would have the same problem on the left. Too bad I can't

> switch

>> sides - when one hurts, then switch. I think the buttons would

> present the

>> same problem as it seems to be holding my arm in the same position and

>> making the small muscle corrections. I think I will make an

> appointment to

>> have the wheelchair folks see if they can come up with something, unless

>> someone here has an idea that will help. Once I start on the

> Creatine maybe

>> I will see a difference.

>>

>> Thanks for the ideas.

>>

>> laurie

>>

>>> From: " A ADAMS "

>>> Reply-To:

>>> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 17:43:23 -0600

>>> To: >

>>> Subject: Re: power wheelchairs

>>>

>>> Laurie,

>>>

>>> Do you think that you would be better suited to have the joystick

> on the left?

>>> You can also get push button controls. The joy-stick is

> functionally replaced

>>> by 4 push-buttons. A therapist has to assess the user to

> determine where the

>>> push-buttons should be located.

>>>

>>> Hope this is helpful and you can solve the problem. Sorry you are

> dealing

>>> with this now.

>>>

>>> Alice

>>>

>>>

need help. My

>>> right arm (joystick arm) is cramping and having spasms from using the

>>> joystick. Does anyone else have this problem and/or a way to solve

> it. It

>>> hurts all the time and I could use some way to lessen the pain.

> The chair

>>> seems to fit okay and was checked by the wheelchair seating

> clinic. laurie>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

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Hi Laurie - how are you activating the joystick? I do mine by pushing

against the joystick lightly on the side of my thumb and side of my first

finger by the knuckle to turn and in the crease between thumb and finger to

go forward I am not grabbing/ holding the joystick with fingers or hand, as

that causes severe cramping for me too. I hardly use any arm motion or

pressure in the process. My arm is resting on the chair arm. Is this what

you are doing already, or a possible option?

Cheers, Ruth

_____

From: Laureta Fitzgerald

Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 7:28 PM

To:

Subject: power wheelchairs

Hi

For those of you who use power wheelchairs with a joystick, I need help. My

right arm (joystick arm) is cramping and having spasms from using the

joystick. Does anyone else have this problem and/or a way to solve it. It

hurts all the time and I could use some way to lessen the pain. The chair

seems to fit okay and was checked by the wheelchair seating clinic.

laurie

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are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of this e mail

is entirely responsible for its content. List members are reminded of their

responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and consult with

their physicians regarding changes in their own treatment.

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automatically moderated or removed depending on the severity of the attack.

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Ruth

I put the joystick between my first and second finger. It is keeping my arm

in one spot that makes it cramp. I am getting so I stop and dangle my arm

for a few minutes when shopping or going from one building to another. This

seems to be helping. I've also had to crochet just a few stitches and then

stretch the arm out for several minutes. I know that with children with

spastic muscles that I have worked with, I shake their arm of loosen it up

to put their coats on.

Thanks for the suggestions.

laurie

>

> Reply-To:

> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 08:25:39 -0400

> To: >

> Subject: RE: power wheelchairs

>

> Hi Laurie - how are you activating the joystick? I do mine by pushing

> against the joystick lightly on the side of my thumb and side of my first

> finger by the knuckle to turn and in the crease between thumb and finger to

> go forward I am not grabbing/ holding the joystick with fingers or hand, as

> that causes severe cramping for me too. I hardly use any arm motion or

> pressure in the process. My arm is resting on the chair arm. Is this what

> you are doing already, or a possible option?

>

> Cheers, Ruth

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: Laureta Fitzgerald

> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 7:28 PM

> To:

> Subject: power wheelchairs

>

>

>

> Hi

>

> For those of you who use power wheelchairs with a joystick, I need help. My

> right arm (joystick arm) is cramping and having spasms from using the

> joystick. Does anyone else have this problem and/or a way to solve it. It

> hurts all the time and I could use some way to lessen the pain. The chair

> seems to fit okay and was checked by the wheelchair seating clinic.

>

> laurie

>

>

>

> Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements contained herein

> are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of this e mail

> is entirely responsible for its content. List members are reminded of their

> responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and consult with

> their physicians regarding changes in their own treatment.

>

> Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone who sends one is

> automatically moderated or removed depending on the severity of the attack.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Ruth

I use a similar grip. It seems to be the not moving the arm that causes

problems, so I have been stopping and swinging my arm every so often which

is helping.

laurie

>

> Reply-To:

> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 08:25:39 -0400

> To: >

> Subject: RE: power wheelchairs

>

> Hi Laurie - how are you activating the joystick? I do mine by pushing

> against the joystick lightly on the side of my thumb and side of my first

> finger by the knuckle to turn and in the crease between thumb and finger to

> go forward I am not grabbing/ holding the joystick with fingers or hand, as

> that causes severe cramping for me too. I hardly use any arm motion or

> pressure in the process. My arm is resting on the chair arm. Is this what

> you are doing already, or a possible option?

>

> Cheers, Ruth

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: Laureta Fitzgerald

> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 7:28 PM

> To:

> Subject: power wheelchairs

>

>

>

> Hi

>

> For those of you who use power wheelchairs with a joystick, I need help. My

> right arm (joystick arm) is cramping and having spasms from using the

> joystick. Does anyone else have this problem and/or a way to solve it. It

> hurts all the time and I could use some way to lessen the pain. The chair

> seems to fit okay and was checked by the wheelchair seating clinic.

>

> laurie

>

>

>

> Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements contained herein

> are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of this e mail

> is entirely responsible for its content. List members are reminded of their

> responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and consult with

> their physicians regarding changes in their own treatment.

>

> Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone who sends one is

> automatically moderated or removed depending on the severity of the attack.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Ruth

I use a similar grip. It seems to be the not moving the arm that causes

problems, so I have been stopping and swinging my arm every so often which

is helping.

laurie

>

> Reply-To:

> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 08:25:39 -0400

> To: >

> Subject: RE: power wheelchairs

>

> Hi Laurie - how are you activating the joystick? I do mine by pushing

> against the joystick lightly on the side of my thumb and side of my first

> finger by the knuckle to turn and in the crease between thumb and finger to

> go forward I am not grabbing/ holding the joystick with fingers or hand, as

> that causes severe cramping for me too. I hardly use any arm motion or

> pressure in the process. My arm is resting on the chair arm. Is this what

> you are doing already, or a possible option?

>

> Cheers, Ruth

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: Laureta Fitzgerald

> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 7:28 PM

> To:

> Subject: power wheelchairs

>

>

>

> Hi

>

> For those of you who use power wheelchairs with a joystick, I need help. My

> right arm (joystick arm) is cramping and having spasms from using the

> joystick. Does anyone else have this problem and/or a way to solve it. It

> hurts all the time and I could use some way to lessen the pain. The chair

> seems to fit okay and was checked by the wheelchair seating clinic.

>

> laurie

>

>

>

> Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements contained herein

> are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of this e mail

> is entirely responsible for its content. List members are reminded of their

> responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and consult with

> their physicians regarding changes in their own treatment.

>

> Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone who sends one is

> automatically moderated or removed depending on the severity of the attack.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Ruth

I use a similar grip. It seems to be the not moving the arm that causes

problems, so I have been stopping and swinging my arm every so often which

is helping.

laurie

>

> Reply-To:

> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 08:25:39 -0400

> To: >

> Subject: RE: power wheelchairs

>

> Hi Laurie - how are you activating the joystick? I do mine by pushing

> against the joystick lightly on the side of my thumb and side of my first

> finger by the knuckle to turn and in the crease between thumb and finger to

> go forward I am not grabbing/ holding the joystick with fingers or hand, as

> that causes severe cramping for me too. I hardly use any arm motion or

> pressure in the process. My arm is resting on the chair arm. Is this what

> you are doing already, or a possible option?

>

> Cheers, Ruth

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: Laureta Fitzgerald

> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 7:28 PM

> To:

> Subject: power wheelchairs

>

>

>

> Hi

>

> For those of you who use power wheelchairs with a joystick, I need help. My

> right arm (joystick arm) is cramping and having spasms from using the

> joystick. Does anyone else have this problem and/or a way to solve it. It

> hurts all the time and I could use some way to lessen the pain. The chair

> seems to fit okay and was checked by the wheelchair seating clinic.

>

> laurie

>

>

>

> Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements contained herein

> are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of this e mail

> is entirely responsible for its content. List members are reminded of their

> responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and consult with

> their physicians regarding changes in their own treatment.

>

> Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone who sends one is

> automatically moderated or removed depending on the severity of the attack.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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