Re: please help

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much Carol and Pam. I really need this kind of support right now.

I don't really have much of a support group besides my wonderful boyfriend who

is a chef and is making things pretty easy for me, dinner wise! lol!

I guess my time of the month does usually fluctuate me, and I promise I will

stop weighing myself so much... Guess old habits are hard to break, huh?

Carol, that's a good idea about posting my diet and exercise, I didn't realize

that people would go that far to help and give me some advice. Here goes:

Breakfast - 3 eggs scrambled or hard boiled and either turkey bacon, canadian

bacon, or low fat turkey sausage and coffee w/ sweet and low and skim milk.

Snack 1 - two stalks of celery with either peanut butter or low fat south

beach or laughing cow spread (one triangle) and water.

Lunch - Salad with some type of meat, either chicken, ground sirloin or turkey

bacon. I use romaine, cucumbers, green pepper, salt, pepper, garlic, no

dressing. This is a really big salad, by the way. and water.

Snack 2 - three low fat mozzerella string cheese or two turkey roll ups and

water.

I have a cup of decaf tea around 1:00 with sweet and low and skim milk

Snack 3 - (after I work out) two low fat mozzerella sticks.

Dinner - Salad (romaine, cucumber, pepper, salt and pepper)

Either grilled chicken, sirloin steak, pork tenderloin, turkey

breast or fish.

I'll have either broccoli and cauliflower, braised radishes or

fennel, turnips, asparagus, lima beans, black beans, (i had green peas one night

till I realized they weren't okay to have) I can't recall what other veggies I

have..oh...edemame, too.

Dessert - sugar free jello cup or a couple of sugar free ice pops (only 15

cals. ea.)

I work out five times a week. I begin with stretching, then do 40 minutes on

hill climb on the eliptical machine. Then I do the full circuit of weight

training, arms, chest, shoulders, back, legs, glutes, abs. I've only started

this routine for a week, but I really enjoy it. I'm also trying to hit some

classes for sculpting. Someone told me to make sure to use weights so that I

stregthnen my muscles while losing weight.

But since I just started, I assumed I wouldn't have gained any muscle weight

yet.

So, please, fellow SBDers, let me know what you think. You are all such a

valuable resource to me right now...Thank you.

Melody

" To thine own self be true "

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[Guest guest]

I think you are doing awesome. Great going on the exercise and food

plan. Do you have the updated list of foods to enjoy? It has skim milk

and yogurt on it. You are allowed 2 cups of either skim or 1% milk or

plain low fat yogurt. The only thing I can see is that sometimes too

much cheese can be a diet buster. It is for me, I guess cuz of the

sodium so I can't have too much of it. It also constipates me. I noticed

I can have a weight gain if I eat too much cheese.

I think you should stick to your program and just have more patience.

The other thing I didn't mention is that weightloss also has a lot to do

with age, metabolism, and how much weight you have to lose. The older we

get, the slower our weightloss will be, and if you don't have " that "

much to lose (20 pounds or so), the weightloss will be a lot slower.

Everyone is different in their amount of weightloss. Since you loss so

much right at the beginning, your body could be catching up. Make sure

to take your measurements, too, cuz you will OFTEN find that you will

lose with your measurements but not on the scale. Your clothes and the

tape measure will probably be a better indicator than the scale,

specially if you are working out.

Carol

princess melody wrote:

> Thank you so much Carol and Pam. I really need this kind of support

> right now. I don't really have much of a support group besides my

> wonderful boyfriend who is a chef and is making things pretty easy for

> me, dinner wise! lol!

> I guess my time of the month does usually fluctuate me, and I promise

> I will stop weighing myself so much... Guess old habits are hard to

> break, huh?

> Carol, that's a good idea about posting my diet and exercise, I didn't

> realize that people would go that far to help and give me some advice.

> Here goes:

>

> Breakfast - 3 eggs scrambled or hard boiled and either turkey bacon,

> canadian bacon, or low fat turkey sausage and coffee w/ sweet and low

> and skim milk.

>

> Snack 1 - two stalks of celery with either peanut butter or low fat

> south beach or laughing cow spread (one triangle) and water.

>

> Lunch - Salad with some type of meat, either chicken, ground sirloin

> or turkey bacon. I use romaine, cucumbers, green pepper, salt, pepper,

> garlic, no dressing. This is a really big salad, by the way. and water.

>

> Snack 2 - three low fat mozzerella string cheese or two turkey roll

> ups and water.

>

> I have a cup of decaf tea around 1:00 with sweet and low and skim milk

>

> Snack 3 - (after I work out) two low fat mozzerella sticks.

>

> Dinner - Salad (romaine, cucumber, pepper, salt and pepper)

> Either grilled chicken, sirloin steak, pork tenderloin, turkey breast

> or fish.

> I'll have either broccoli and cauliflower, braised radishes or fennel,

> turnips, asparagus, lima beans, black beans, (i had green peas one

> night till I realized they weren't okay to have) I can't recall what

> other veggies I have..oh...edemame, too.

>

> Dessert - sugar free jello cup or a couple of sugar free ice pops

> (only 15 cals. ea.)

>

> I work out five times a week. I begin with stretching, then do 40

> minutes on hill climb on the eliptical machine. Then I do the full

> circuit of weight training, arms, chest, shoulders, back, legs,

> glutes, abs. I've only started this routine for a week, but I really

> enjoy it. I'm also trying to hit some classes for sculpting. Someone

> told me to make sure to use weights so that I stregthnen my muscles

> while losing weight.

> But since I just started, I assumed I wouldn't have gained any muscle

> weight yet.

>

> So, please, fellow SBDers, let me know what you think. You are all

> such a valuable resource to me right now...Thank you.

> Melody

>

>

> " To thine own self be true "

>

> ---------------------------------

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> Photo Books. You design it and we’ll bind it!

>

>

[Guest guest]

> I am pretty certain I'm getting 4 or 5 cups of veggies, but

> it may be that I'm eating tons more of them than ever before!

> I'll double check that, thank you!

Vegetables are important to feeling full because they have fiber. They're

also important for solid nutrition. Try to get some beans in there as well

-- lots of fiber, protein, potassium, and magnesium.

> Well, my starting weight is 142 and my target is 110. So

> maybe my weight won't come flying off like I hoped? I'm

> trying to make my body toned and strong while I'm losing so

> that I won't have to start doing it later! I guess that's

> active procrastination!

You don't say what you're height is but if you're an average height woman,

110 is a bit on the thin side. If you're exercising regularly, and working

towards tone (which means some type of weight lifting), then 110 is most

likely not going to happen (unless you are particularly short, say under

5'). BUT, that's ok! Remember -- muscle weighs more than fat. I've

known guys over the years who were muscle heavy and when they weighed in,

they always were deemed " overweight " even though their bodyfat was

exceedingly low. Considering your case, when you get down to around 125,

get a body fat done. The doctor's office can usually do this with calipers,

as can most gyms/fitness centers. I think you'll be a bit surprised at the

results.

Your menu doesn't look bad. A few comments though, for what they're worth.

1) The SBD's official line on eggs at least used to be 1 per day. I notice

you're doing 3 for breakfast. I'm not quite sure WHY Agatston took this

stance, probably the old belief that eggs are bad for the heart (they're

not). There's no valid, nutritional support for this IMNSHO, and I don't

put any stock in it (my salad has 2 eggs in it right now) but I thought I'd

mention it nonetheless.

2) Your " Snack 1 " mentions, " low fat south beach " but doesn't finish the

statement. If this is something from the Kraft SBD line of products, I'd

avoid them. Most are not P1 friendly and for that matter, most are not SBD

friendly at all, even though Agatston has put his moniker on them.

3) For your salads, you say you're using no dressing. That's great if it is

your preference but know that you CAN use regular dressings if you like, so

long as they have 14g or less of fat per serving and not more than 3g of

sugar per serving.

[Guest guest]

As I understand in the SBD book it says the use of eggs is unlimited???? Am I

wrong about this??

Sara

Noctaire noctaire@...> wrote:

> I am pretty certain I'm getting 4 or 5 cups of veggies, but

> it may be that I'm eating tons more of them than ever before!

> I'll double check that, thank you!

Vegetables are important to feeling full because they have fiber. They're

also important for solid nutrition. Try to get some beans in there as well

-- lots of fiber, protein, potassium, and magnesium.

> Well, my starting weight is 142 and my target is 110. So

> maybe my weight won't come flying off like I hoped? I'm

> trying to make my body toned and strong while I'm losing so

> that I won't have to start doing it later! I guess that's

> active procrastination!

You don't say what you're height is but if you're an average height woman,

110 is a bit on the thin side. If you're exercising regularly, and working

towards tone (which means some type of weight lifting), then 110 is most

likely not going to happen (unless you are particularly short, say under

5'). BUT, that's ok! Remember -- muscle weighs more than fat. I've

known guys over the years who were muscle heavy and when they weighed in,

they always were deemed " overweight " even though their bodyfat was

exceedingly low. Considering your case, when you get down to around 125,

get a body fat done. The doctor's office can usually do this with calipers,

as can most gyms/fitness centers. I think you'll be a bit surprised at the

results.

Your menu doesn't look bad. A few comments though, for what they're worth.

1) The SBD's official line on eggs at least used to be 1 per day. I notice

you're doing 3 for breakfast. I'm not quite sure WHY Agatston took this

stance, probably the old belief that eggs are bad for the heart (they're

not). There's no valid, nutritional support for this IMNSHO, and I don't

put any stock in it (my salad has 2 eggs in it right now) but I thought I'd

mention it nonetheless.

2) Your " Snack 1 " mentions, " low fat south beach " but doesn't finish the

statement. If this is something from the Kraft SBD line of products, I'd

avoid them. Most are not P1 friendly and for that matter, most are not SBD

friendly at all, even though Agatston has put his moniker on them.

3) For your salads, you say you're using no dressing. That's great if it is

your preference but know that you CAN use regular dressings if you like, so

long as they have 14g or less of fat per serving and not more than 3g of

sugar per serving.

Please send your recipes for inclusion in the Files to the Moderator at:

South-Beach-Diet-Getting-It-Right-owner

Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-fat. The South

Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right fats-the good

ones - and enables you to live quite happily without the bad carbs and bad fats.

For more on this Way Of Eating please read " The South Beach Diet " by Arthur

Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8

[Guest guest]

> Oh, I'm below average height! Just almost 5'0! Normaly, 110

> looks healthy and curvy on me. I am short and small boned,

> but still pear shaped, which is fine with me! I happen to

> like that. Untill I quit smoking I was usually pretty

> slender. Now I just have to work hard to get back there....

Ok, that makes a littl more sense. Every once in a while, we'll get

someone with the standard/sub-standard " unhealthy body image " of herself.

The 5'8 " woman who think she should weigh in at 110 pounds sort of thing.

At 5'0 " , 110-125 is a normal, healthy weight.

Like I said earlier -- stick to the program and you'll be happy with the

results, especially with that workout program you mentioned. Definitely do

the body fat thing once you get down to 120 though -- I'll be you'll be

surprised at how low your actual body fat is and how toned you are.

[Guest guest]

Well that sucks because I already ate 2 more then that for the week LOL

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-- RE: Re: please help

> As I understand in the SBD book it says the use of eggs is

> unlimited???? Am I wrong about this??

Last I read on the oh-fishy-all site, eggs were limited to 7 a week -- one

of many contradictions within the diet, especially since the food to enjoy

list for P1 says eggs are unlimited unless restricted by a doctor.

As you'll note from the what I said in the other post, I don't put much

stock in the one a day limit.

Please send your recipes for inclusion in the Files to the Moderator at:

South-Beach-Diet-Getting-It-Right-owner

Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-fat. The

South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right

fats-the good ones - and enables you to live quite happily without the bad

carbs and bad fats.

For more on this Way Of Eating please read " The South Beach Diet " by Arthur

Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8

[Guest guest]

Well I have been eating about 2 a day and still losing so I don't know what to

say about that little rule!

Sara

Noctaire noctaire@...> wrote:

> As I understand in the SBD book it says the use of eggs is

> unlimited???? Am I wrong about this??

Last I read on the oh-fishy-all site, eggs were limited to 7 a week -- one

of many contradictions within the diet, especially since the food to enjoy

list for P1 says eggs are unlimited unless restricted by a doctor.

As you'll note from the what I said in the other post, I don't put much

stock in the one a day limit.

Please send your recipes for inclusion in the Files to the Moderator at:

South-Beach-Diet-Getting-It-Right-owner

Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-fat. The South

Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right fats-the good

ones - and enables you to live quite happily without the bad carbs and bad fats.

For more on this Way Of Eating please read " The South Beach Diet " by Arthur

Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8

[Guest guest]

I think the formula doctors used (which I'm sure still depends on a lot of

things & weren't they coming out with a new " range " instead of the set numbers

they used to use?) was 100 lbs for every 5 feet & then 5 lbs for every 5 inches

after that? So at 5'9 " I should be 145, I believe? 140 for 5'8 " .. Does that

sound about right?

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~Jenn

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Ok I am 5'8 " so what is a realistic weight for me! Not telling how much I weigh

trust me it is more then it should be!

Sara

[Guest guest]

> Ok I am 5'8 " so what is a realistic weight for me! Not

> telling how much I weigh trust me it is more then it should be!

Low end, I'd say 125ish; that assumes you lead a relatively sedentary

lifestyle. The high end will be upwards of 150-160, again depending on

lifestyle, muscle mass, body type, and so forth. Using BMI as a foundation

for making the determination....

Normal BMI ---> 18.5-24.9

Weight Range -> 122-164

BMI is a decent measure when considering averages so it works out ok.

[Guest guest]

Don't get too worried about it. I have eaten two a day for the last

2-1/2 years with no bad effects.

Chuck

Sara wrote:

>Well I have been eating about 2 a day and still losing so I don't know what to

say about that little rule!

>

> Sara

>

>Noctaire noctaire@...> wrote:

> > As I understand in the SBD book it says the use of eggs is

>

>

>>unlimited???? Am I wrong about this??

>>

>>

>

>Last I read on the oh-fishy-all site, eggs were limited to 7 a week -- one

>of many contradictions within the diet, especially since the food to enjoy

>list for P1 says eggs are unlimited unless restricted by a doctor.

>

>As you'll note from the what I said in the other post, I don't put much

>stock in the one a day limit.

>

>

>

>

>

>Please send your recipes for inclusion in the Files to the Moderator at:

>South-Beach-Diet-Getting-It-Right-owner

>

>Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-fat. The South

Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right fats-the good

ones - and enables you to live quite happily without the bad carbs and bad fats.

>

>For more on this Way Of Eating please read " The South Beach Diet " by Arthur

Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

5'4 " is average height, and 108-145 is the weight range for 5'4 " . So,

110 isn't out of the range for an average weight female.

ann

> > Well, my starting weight is 142 and my target is 110. So

> > maybe my weight won't come flying off like I hoped? I'm

> > trying to make my body toned and strong while I'm losing so

> > that I won't have to start doing it later! I guess that's

> > active procrastination!

>

> You don't say what you're height is but if you're an average height

woman,

> 110 is a bit on the thin side. If you're exercising regularly, and

working

> towards tone (which means some type of weight lifting), then 110 is

most

> likely not going to happen (unless you are particularly short, say

under

> 5'). BUT, that's ok! Remember -- muscle weighs more than

fat. I've

> known guys over the years who were muscle heavy and when they

weighed in,

> they always were deemed " overweight " even though their bodyfat was

> exceedingly low. Considering your case, when you get down to

around 125,

> get a body fat done. The doctor's office can usually do this with

calipers,

> as can most gyms/fitness centers. I think you'll be a bit

surprised at the

> results.

[Guest guest]

Yes, you can eat a great deal of eggs. I usually use egg beaters

instead, due to cholesterol concerns.

ann

>

> As I understand in the SBD book it says the use of eggs is

unlimited???? Am I wrong about this??

>

> Sara

[Guest guest]

Yes, you can eat a great deal of eggs. I usually use egg beaters

instead, due to cholesterol concerns.

ann

>

> As I understand in the SBD book it says the use of eggs is

unlimited???? Am I wrong about this??

>

> Sara

[Guest guest]

> 5'4 " is average height, and 108-145 is the weight range for 5'4 " . So,

> 110 isn't out of the range for an average weight female.

110 pounds for an average height female is, " ...a bit on the thin side " .

Using the range offered by the BMI, 108 is right at the border between

normal and underweight. Sounds like " a bit on the thin side " to me.

[Guest guest]

> I think the formula doctors used (which I'm sure still depends on a lot of

> things & weren't they coming out with a new " range " instead of the set numbers

> they used to use?) was 100 lbs for every 5 feet & then 5 lbs for every 5

> inches after that? So at 5'9 " I should be 145, I believe? 140 for 5'8 " ..

> Does that sound about right?

I'm a shorty, too, at 5'0 " . Using your formula above, my ideal weight would

be 100 pounds. I'd have to do some major work to get there! I look best at

around 120.

--

Ann

You spend your life fighting dirt, and when you die they bury you in it.

hayakawa@...

North Bend, Oregon, USA

[Guest guest]

I'm a shorty, too, at 5'0 " . Using your formula above, my ideal weight would

be 100 pounds. I'd have to do some major work to get there! I look best at

around 120.

I think it's a little out dated (and probably why most of us grew up thinking

we were fat when we weren't!). I could probably get to 145, but I'd probably

look pretty good about 10-20lbs before I got there

[Guest guest]

that is the formula my doctor uses, but she says 5 - 6 lb.s for every pound over

5 feet. According to her, I should weigh about 135 to 142. I like myself best

at about 145, so it seems to be pretty accurate.

> I think the formula doctors used (which I'm sure still depends on a lot of

> things & weren't they coming out with a new " range " instead of the set numbers

> they used to use?) was 100 lbs for every 5 feet & then 5 lbs for every 5

> inches after that? So at 5'9 " I should be 145, I believe? 140 for 5'8 " ..

> Does that sound about right?

[Guest guest]

It's exactly within range, particularly for women with small frames.

It just sounds more thin than it is because most women in the US are

overweight. I was using the BMI scale, and it says 108-145 is average.

ann

>

> > 5'4 " is average height, and 108-145 is the weight range for 5'4 " .

So,

> > 110 isn't out of the range for an average weight female.

>

> 110 pounds for an average height female is, " ...a bit on the thin

side " .

> Using the range offered by the BMI, 108 is right at the border

between

> normal and underweight. Sounds like " a bit on the thin side " to

me.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> It's exactly within range, particularly for women with small frames.

> It just sounds more thin than it is because most women in the US are

> overweight. I was using the BMI scale, and it says 108-145 is

> average.

That's what I said as well -- it's within the range, albeit at the cusp of

being underweight. A 5'4 " woman that weighs 110 pounds is " a bit on the

thin side " . I didn't say it would be anorexic, just very thin. I'm not

going to hide my opinion on it, I *DO* feel that this is too thin though.

But as always, it's up to the person's preferences!