Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Im going through a major depression, because like you said there are days when I still feel like that 315 pound person. I went to the doctor today and their scale said I was 160!! Thats a 10 pound difference since Friday and only major gorging would have caused that kind of weight gain. So while my head tells me Ive been following the program except for Sunday...something fishy is going on. But seeing that today brings up all my fears of going backwards. Im scared, Im depressed and I feel like a failure. I did bring out my pictures, I did remind myself that Im training for a marathon and therefore building muscle, I reminded myself that it normal hormonal fluctuation, my clothing fits the same if not looser, ect ect ect. But deep down I feel like never eating again. I feel so frustrated. How can I be doing 90% right, exercising every dang day and have gained?! I hear everyone's comments, but I cant shake this feeling of shame,and sense of failure. > > > > > > Most of us run, when a camera is pointed in our general > direction, > > but > > > trust me, having pictures to document your journey is a big > > > motivator. It helps to reflect on just how far you've come now > > and > > > then, especially when you're far enough out to be tempted to > > return to > > > old eating habits or trigger foods. > > > > > > I suggest taking full body " mug shots " once a month. They can > > really > > > help, when you hit a plateau or are feeling " fat again. " Our > > brains > > > play huge tricks on us, as we adapt to the new normal, and > > reminding > > > ourselves of our progress helps us recognize of how far we've > come > > and > > > why we don't want to relapse. > > > > > > I also recommend keeping the clothes you wore to orientation. > > Just > > > tuck them away in a corner of your closet. Take them out every > > few > > > months. Especially on the anniversary of your surgery. You > will > > be > > > amazed. > > > > > > Uncle Timmy -224 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 , I hear what you are saying and I understand where you are coming from. Sometimes you just have to steal away and just give yourself the time to get through a situation. Sometimes you just have to go through a circumstance and let it run its course. I pray that you will feel better real soon. Big hug for you. Pam Marsh-190 59.5 pounds gone but not forgotten --- Rose armymom1961@...> wrote: > , Muscle weighs more than fat so since you > have been working out allot and training hard for > the marathon thats probably contributing to the > gain. Don't stress on it take it day by day and if > you know your doing the right things than tell that > devil on your shoulder to go away. > Be proud of what you have done and keep it up. > Sometimes concentrating on something makes us > obsessed and it causes stress that also causes us to > gain weight. Go outside take a walk and be in the > sunshine and hopefully that will make you feel a > little better too. We are proud of you your doing > great. > Rose > > Diane Duenas brendadiane64@...> wrote: > > Im going through a major depression, because like > you said there are > days when I still feel like that 315 pound person. I > went to the > doctor today and their scale said I was 160!! Thats > a 10 pound > difference since Friday and only major gorging would > have caused that > kind of weight gain. So while my head tells me Ive > been following the > program except for Sunday...something fishy is going > on. But seeing > that today brings up all my fears of going > backwards. > > Im scared, Im depressed and I feel like a failure. > > I did bring out my pictures, I did remind myself > that Im training for > a marathon and therefore building muscle, I reminded > myself that it > normal hormonal fluctuation, my clothing fits the > same if not looser, > ect ect ect. But deep down I feel like never eating > again. I feel so > frustrated. How can I be doing 90% right, exercising > every dang day > and have gained?! > > > I hear everyone's comments, but I cant shake this > feeling of > shame,and sense of failure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most of us run, when a camera is pointed in > our general > > direction, > > > but > > > > trust me, having pictures to document your > journey is a big > > > > motivator. It helps to reflect on just how > far you've come now > > > and > > > > then, especially when you're far enough out to > be tempted to > > > return to > > > > old eating habits or trigger foods. > > > > > > > > I suggest taking full body " mug shots " once a > month. They can > > > really > > > > help, when you hit a plateau or are feeling > " fat again. " Our > > > brains > > > > play huge tricks on us, as we adapt to the new > normal, and > > > reminding > > > > ourselves of our progress helps us recognize > of how far we've > > come > > > and > > > > why we don't want to relapse. > > > > > > > > I also recommend keeping the clothes you wore > to orientation. > > > Just > > > > tuck them away in a corner of your closet. > Take them out every > > > few > > > > months. Especially on the anniversary of your > surgery. You > > will > > > be > > > > amazed. > > > > > > > > Uncle Timmy -224 > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 , I hear what you are saying and I understand where you are coming from. Sometimes you just have to steal away and just give yourself the time to get through a situation. Sometimes you just have to go through a circumstance and let it run its course. I pray that you will feel better real soon. Big hug for you. Pam Marsh-190 59.5 pounds gone but not forgotten --- Rose armymom1961@...> wrote: > , Muscle weighs more than fat so since you > have been working out allot and training hard for > the marathon thats probably contributing to the > gain. Don't stress on it take it day by day and if > you know your doing the right things than tell that > devil on your shoulder to go away. > Be proud of what you have done and keep it up. > Sometimes concentrating on something makes us > obsessed and it causes stress that also causes us to > gain weight. Go outside take a walk and be in the > sunshine and hopefully that will make you feel a > little better too. We are proud of you your doing > great. > Rose > > Diane Duenas brendadiane64@...> wrote: > > Im going through a major depression, because like > you said there are > days when I still feel like that 315 pound person. I > went to the > doctor today and their scale said I was 160!! Thats > a 10 pound > difference since Friday and only major gorging would > have caused that > kind of weight gain. So while my head tells me Ive > been following the > program except for Sunday...something fishy is going > on. But seeing > that today brings up all my fears of going > backwards. > > Im scared, Im depressed and I feel like a failure. > > I did bring out my pictures, I did remind myself > that Im training for > a marathon and therefore building muscle, I reminded > myself that it > normal hormonal fluctuation, my clothing fits the > same if not looser, > ect ect ect. But deep down I feel like never eating > again. I feel so > frustrated. How can I be doing 90% right, exercising > every dang day > and have gained?! > > > I hear everyone's comments, but I cant shake this > feeling of > shame,and sense of failure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most of us run, when a camera is pointed in > our general > > direction, > > > but > > > > trust me, having pictures to document your > journey is a big > > > > motivator. It helps to reflect on just how > far you've come now > > > and > > > > then, especially when you're far enough out to > be tempted to > > > return to > > > > old eating habits or trigger foods. > > > > > > > > I suggest taking full body " mug shots " once a > month. They can > > > really > > > > help, when you hit a plateau or are feeling > " fat again. " Our > > > brains > > > > play huge tricks on us, as we adapt to the new > normal, and > > > reminding > > > > ourselves of our progress helps us recognize > of how far we've > > come > > > and > > > > why we don't want to relapse. > > > > > > > > I also recommend keeping the clothes you wore > to orientation. > > > Just > > > > tuck them away in a corner of your closet. > Take them out every > > > few > > > > months. Especially on the anniversary of your > surgery. You > > will > > > be > > > > amazed. > > > > > > > > Uncle Timmy -224 > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 , I hear what you are saying and I understand where you are coming from. Sometimes you just have to steal away and just give yourself the time to get through a situation. Sometimes you just have to go through a circumstance and let it run its course. I pray that you will feel better real soon. Big hug for you. Pam Marsh-190 59.5 pounds gone but not forgotten --- Rose armymom1961@...> wrote: > , Muscle weighs more than fat so since you > have been working out allot and training hard for > the marathon thats probably contributing to the > gain. Don't stress on it take it day by day and if > you know your doing the right things than tell that > devil on your shoulder to go away. > Be proud of what you have done and keep it up. > Sometimes concentrating on something makes us > obsessed and it causes stress that also causes us to > gain weight. Go outside take a walk and be in the > sunshine and hopefully that will make you feel a > little better too. We are proud of you your doing > great. > Rose > > Diane Duenas brendadiane64@...> wrote: > > Im going through a major depression, because like > you said there are > days when I still feel like that 315 pound person. I > went to the > doctor today and their scale said I was 160!! Thats > a 10 pound > difference since Friday and only major gorging would > have caused that > kind of weight gain. So while my head tells me Ive > been following the > program except for Sunday...something fishy is going > on. But seeing > that today brings up all my fears of going > backwards. > > Im scared, Im depressed and I feel like a failure. > > I did bring out my pictures, I did remind myself > that Im training for > a marathon and therefore building muscle, I reminded > myself that it > normal hormonal fluctuation, my clothing fits the > same if not looser, > ect ect ect. But deep down I feel like never eating > again. I feel so > frustrated. How can I be doing 90% right, exercising > every dang day > and have gained?! > > > I hear everyone's comments, but I cant shake this > feeling of > shame,and sense of failure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most of us run, when a camera is pointed in > our general > > direction, > > > but > > > > trust me, having pictures to document your > journey is a big > > > > motivator. It helps to reflect on just how > far you've come now > > > and > > > > then, especially when you're far enough out to > be tempted to > > > return to > > > > old eating habits or trigger foods. > > > > > > > > I suggest taking full body " mug shots " once a > month. They can > > > really > > > > help, when you hit a plateau or are feeling > " fat again. " Our > > > brains > > > > play huge tricks on us, as we adapt to the new > normal, and > > > reminding > > > > ourselves of our progress helps us recognize > of how far we've > > come > > > and > > > > why we don't want to relapse. > > > > > > > > I also recommend keeping the clothes you wore > to orientation. > > > Just > > > > tuck them away in a corner of your closet. > Take them out every > > > few > > > > months. Especially on the anniversary of your > surgery. You > > will > > > be > > > > amazed. > > > > > > > > Uncle Timmy -224 > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Hang in there . This too shall pass. You have lost half your body weight. That is a fantastic accomplishment! Sometimes we start this black or white, all or nothing, success or failure thinking, and it's hard to give ourselves a break. I know I'm much harder on myself than anyone else would be. It come from years of thinking that I had to be perfect, to be considered adequate and compensate for my weight. I still have trouble telling myself that good enough is good enuogh. Remember: 1. The farther out you get, the slower the weight will come off. For the first three months post-op I literally lost a pound a day. Now, 21 months out, I've had to redefine success. I'm at the stage where maintenance is success. 2. The " exercise paradox. " Since muscle weighs more than fat, the more you work out and develop muscle, the slower your weight loss. Also, you burn a lot fewer calories walking a mile at 160 than you did at 300. 3. Never underestimate the hormonal/water retention effects of the " 28-day crankies. " 4. Don't just weigh. Measure yourself. I had plenty of months when the scale didn't budge, but I went down a size. Go figure. Uncle Timmy -224 > > > > > > > > Most of us run, when a camera is pointed in our general > > direction, > > > but > > > > trust me, having pictures to document your journey is a big > > > > motivator. It helps to reflect on just how far you've come now > > > and > > > > then, especially when you're far enough out to be tempted to > > > return to > > > > old eating habits or trigger foods. > > > > > > > > I suggest taking full body " mug shots " once a month. They can > > > really > > > > help, when you hit a plateau or are feeling " fat again. " Our > > > brains > > > > play huge tricks on us, as we adapt to the new normal, and > > > reminding > > > > ourselves of our progress helps us recognize of how far we've > > come > > > and > > > > why we don't want to relapse. > > > > > > > > I also recommend keeping the clothes you wore to orientation. > > > Just > > > > tuck them away in a corner of your closet. Take them out every > > > few > > > > months. Especially on the anniversary of your surgery. You > > will > > > be > > > > amazed. > > > > > > > > Uncle Timmy -224 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Hang in there . This too shall pass. You have lost half your body weight. That is a fantastic accomplishment! Sometimes we start this black or white, all or nothing, success or failure thinking, and it's hard to give ourselves a break. I know I'm much harder on myself than anyone else would be. It come from years of thinking that I had to be perfect, to be considered adequate and compensate for my weight. I still have trouble telling myself that good enough is good enuogh. Remember: 1. The farther out you get, the slower the weight will come off. For the first three months post-op I literally lost a pound a day. Now, 21 months out, I've had to redefine success. I'm at the stage where maintenance is success. 2. The " exercise paradox. " Since muscle weighs more than fat, the more you work out and develop muscle, the slower your weight loss. Also, you burn a lot fewer calories walking a mile at 160 than you did at 300. 3. Never underestimate the hormonal/water retention effects of the " 28-day crankies. " 4. Don't just weigh. Measure yourself. I had plenty of months when the scale didn't budge, but I went down a size. Go figure. Uncle Timmy -224 > > > > > > > > Most of us run, when a camera is pointed in our general > > direction, > > > but > > > > trust me, having pictures to document your journey is a big > > > > motivator. It helps to reflect on just how far you've come now > > > and > > > > then, especially when you're far enough out to be tempted to > > > return to > > > > old eating habits or trigger foods. > > > > > > > > I suggest taking full body " mug shots " once a month. They can > > > really > > > > help, when you hit a plateau or are feeling " fat again. " Our > > > brains > > > > play huge tricks on us, as we adapt to the new normal, and > > > reminding > > > > ourselves of our progress helps us recognize of how far we've > > come > > > and > > > > why we don't want to relapse. > > > > > > > > I also recommend keeping the clothes you wore to orientation. > > > Just > > > > tuck them away in a corner of your closet. Take them out every > > > few > > > > months. Especially on the anniversary of your surgery. You > > will > > > be > > > > amazed. > > > > > > > > Uncle Timmy -224 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Hang in there . This too shall pass. You have lost half your body weight. That is a fantastic accomplishment! Sometimes we start this black or white, all or nothing, success or failure thinking, and it's hard to give ourselves a break. I know I'm much harder on myself than anyone else would be. It come from years of thinking that I had to be perfect, to be considered adequate and compensate for my weight. I still have trouble telling myself that good enough is good enuogh. Remember: 1. The farther out you get, the slower the weight will come off. For the first three months post-op I literally lost a pound a day. Now, 21 months out, I've had to redefine success. I'm at the stage where maintenance is success. 2. The " exercise paradox. " Since muscle weighs more than fat, the more you work out and develop muscle, the slower your weight loss. Also, you burn a lot fewer calories walking a mile at 160 than you did at 300. 3. Never underestimate the hormonal/water retention effects of the " 28-day crankies. " 4. Don't just weigh. Measure yourself. I had plenty of months when the scale didn't budge, but I went down a size. Go figure. Uncle Timmy -224 > > > > > > > > Most of us run, when a camera is pointed in our general > > direction, > > > but > > > > trust me, having pictures to document your journey is a big > > > > motivator. It helps to reflect on just how far you've come now > > > and > > > > then, especially when you're far enough out to be tempted to > > > return to > > > > old eating habits or trigger foods. > > > > > > > > I suggest taking full body " mug shots " once a month. They can > > > really > > > > help, when you hit a plateau or are feeling " fat again. " Our > > > brains > > > > play huge tricks on us, as we adapt to the new normal, and > > > reminding > > > > ourselves of our progress helps us recognize of how far we've > > come > > > and > > > > why we don't want to relapse. > > > > > > > > I also recommend keeping the clothes you wore to orientation. > > > Just > > > > tuck them away in a corner of your closet. Take them out every > > > few > > > > months. Especially on the anniversary of your surgery. You > > will > > > be > > > > amazed. > > > > > > > > Uncle Timmy -224 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 , please remember that different scales (even dr. scales) are calibrated differently...and frequently, hospitals and doctor's offices don't bother to get theirs recalibrated. That could account for the full ten pounds...or maybe 5 of the ten. Get tough with yourself, review what you are doing...check out your own scale...and know that weight fluctuates, particularly for women. For me, water makes a huge difference. If I have something salty one day, and not enough water, I can skyrocket up. I think it's dangerous to just ignore the gains completely...I think that's how most of us got to this pre-surgery weight. It wouldn't register or seem real. So, I think it's ok to hit the panic button, on some level. But, golly girl...if you are exercising and you aren't doing the "Gee, I exercise so much, of course I can now eat 6 times a day instead of 3" thing...well, it's just your body figuring out where it is comfortable (for the moment or the day). You aren't going to gain it all back. You are too vigilent and capable. You have the tools, and you are a different person today. You may feel like your body is betraying you, and in some ways, it is...but just assume its temporary. Be honest with yourself, and correct any little errant habits that you may have added to your routine (like, are you suddenly using half and half instead of nonfat milk...or are you adding a few more carbs here or there...). If you are being totally honest with yourself, and you are keeping on a real exercise schedule...it could be added muscle mass from your running. It can also be inflammation from an irritation to your body from the exercising. In other words, you might be retaining water as a result of some of your muscle fibers breaking down, to reform in greater mass. THat's a very normal process when you start working out like that. So, the water weight might go away soon. Keep heart, keep honest...and don't panic. It's not going to keep going up and up and up. It will equalize, as long as you aren't adding a bunch of sugar free candy (still calorically charged) or other things unconsciously.... You'll be fine, and you'll be where you need to be soon.l RobynnPamela A Marsh wrote: , I hear what you are saying and I understandwhere you are coming from. Sometimes you just have tosteal away and just give yourself the time to getthrough a situation. Sometimes you just have to gothrough a circumstance and let it run its course. Ipray that you will feel better real soon. Big hug foryou.Pam Marsh-19059.5 pounds gone but not forgotten--- Rose wrote:> , Muscle weighs more than fat so since you> have been working out allot and training hard for> the marathon thats probably contributing to the> gain. Don't stress on it take it day by day and if> you know your doing the right things than tell that> devil on your shoulder to go away.> Be proud of what you have done and keep it up. > Sometimes concentrating on something makes us> obsessed and it causes stress that also causes us to> gain weight. Go outside take a walk and be in the> sunshine and hopefully that will make you feel a> little better too. We are proud of you your doing> great.> Rose> > Diane Duenas wrote:> > Im going through a major depression, because like> you said there are > days when I still feel like that 315 pound person. I> went to the > doctor today and their scale said I was 160!! Thats> a 10 pound > difference since Friday and only major gorging would> have caused that > kind of weight gain. So while my head tells me Ive> been following the > program except for Sunday...something fishy is going> on. But seeing > that today brings up all my fears of going> backwards.> > Im scared, Im depressed and I feel like a failure.> > I did bring out my pictures, I did remind myself> that Im training for > a marathon and therefore building muscle, I reminded> myself that it > normal hormonal fluctuation, my clothing fits the> same if not looser, > ect ect ect. But deep down I feel like never eating> again. I feel so > frustrated. How can I be doing 90% right, exercising> every dang day > and have gained?!> > > I hear everyone's comments, but I cant shake this> feeling of > shame,and sense of failure.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most of us run, when a camera is pointed in> our general > > direction, > > > but > > > > trust me, having pictures to document your> journey is a big > > > > motivator. It helps to reflect on just how> far you've come now > > > and > > > > then, especially when you're far enough out to> be tempted to > > > return to > > > > old eating habits or trigger foods.> > > > > > > > I suggest taking full body "mug shots" once a> month. They can > > > really > > > > help, when you hit a plateau or are feeling> "fat again." Our > > > brains > > > > play huge tricks on us, as we adapt to the new> normal, and > > > reminding > > > > ourselves of our progress helps us recognize> of how far we've > > come > > > and > > > > why we don't want to relapse. > > > > > > > > I also recommend keeping the clothes you wore> to orientation. > > > Just > > > > tuck them away in a corner of your closet. > Take them out every > > > few > > > > months. Especially on the anniversary of your> surgery. You > > will > > > be > > > > amazed.> > > > > > > > Uncle Timmy -224> > > > > > ---------------------------------> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 , please remember that different scales (even dr. scales) are calibrated differently...and frequently, hospitals and doctor's offices don't bother to get theirs recalibrated. That could account for the full ten pounds...or maybe 5 of the ten. Get tough with yourself, review what you are doing...check out your own scale...and know that weight fluctuates, particularly for women. For me, water makes a huge difference. If I have something salty one day, and not enough water, I can skyrocket up. I think it's dangerous to just ignore the gains completely...I think that's how most of us got to this pre-surgery weight. It wouldn't register or seem real. So, I think it's ok to hit the panic button, on some level. But, golly girl...if you are exercising and you aren't doing the "Gee, I exercise so much, of course I can now eat 6 times a day instead of 3" thing...well, it's just your body figuring out where it is comfortable (for the moment or the day). You aren't going to gain it all back. You are too vigilent and capable. You have the tools, and you are a different person today. You may feel like your body is betraying you, and in some ways, it is...but just assume its temporary. Be honest with yourself, and correct any little errant habits that you may have added to your routine (like, are you suddenly using half and half instead of nonfat milk...or are you adding a few more carbs here or there...). If you are being totally honest with yourself, and you are keeping on a real exercise schedule...it could be added muscle mass from your running. It can also be inflammation from an irritation to your body from the exercising. In other words, you might be retaining water as a result of some of your muscle fibers breaking down, to reform in greater mass. THat's a very normal process when you start working out like that. So, the water weight might go away soon. Keep heart, keep honest...and don't panic. It's not going to keep going up and up and up. It will equalize, as long as you aren't adding a bunch of sugar free candy (still calorically charged) or other things unconsciously.... You'll be fine, and you'll be where you need to be soon.l RobynnPamela A Marsh wrote: , I hear what you are saying and I understandwhere you are coming from. Sometimes you just have tosteal away and just give yourself the time to getthrough a situation. Sometimes you just have to gothrough a circumstance and let it run its course. Ipray that you will feel better real soon. Big hug foryou.Pam Marsh-19059.5 pounds gone but not forgotten--- Rose wrote:> , Muscle weighs more than fat so since you> have been working out allot and training hard for> the marathon thats probably contributing to the> gain. Don't stress on it take it day by day and if> you know your doing the right things than tell that> devil on your shoulder to go away.> Be proud of what you have done and keep it up. > Sometimes concentrating on something makes us> obsessed and it causes stress that also causes us to> gain weight. Go outside take a walk and be in the> sunshine and hopefully that will make you feel a> little better too. We are proud of you your doing> great.> Rose> > Diane Duenas wrote:> > Im going through a major depression, because like> you said there are > days when I still feel like that 315 pound person. I> went to the > doctor today and their scale said I was 160!! Thats> a 10 pound > difference since Friday and only major gorging would> have caused that > kind of weight gain. So while my head tells me Ive> been following the > program except for Sunday...something fishy is going> on. But seeing > that today brings up all my fears of going> backwards.> > Im scared, Im depressed and I feel like a failure.> > I did bring out my pictures, I did remind myself> that Im training for > a marathon and therefore building muscle, I reminded> myself that it > normal hormonal fluctuation, my clothing fits the> same if not looser, > ect ect ect. But deep down I feel like never eating> again. I feel so > frustrated. How can I be doing 90% right, exercising> every dang day > and have gained?!> > > I hear everyone's comments, but I cant shake this> feeling of > shame,and sense of failure.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most of us run, when a camera is pointed in> our general > > direction, > > > but > > > > trust me, having pictures to document your> journey is a big > > > > motivator. It helps to reflect on just how> far you've come now > > > and > > > > then, especially when you're far enough out to> be tempted to > > > return to > > > > old eating habits or trigger foods.> > > > > > > > I suggest taking full body "mug shots" once a> month. They can > > > really > > > > help, when you hit a plateau or are feeling> "fat again." Our > > > brains > > > > play huge tricks on us, as we adapt to the new> normal, and > > > reminding > > > > ourselves of our progress helps us recognize> of how far we've > > come > > > and > > > > why we don't want to relapse. > > > > > > > > I also recommend keeping the clothes you wore> to orientation. > > > Just > > > > tuck them away in a corner of your closet. > Take them out every > > > few > > > > months. Especially on the anniversary of your> surgery. You > > will > > > be > > > > amazed.> > > > > > > > Uncle Timmy -224> > > > > > ---------------------------------> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 , please remember that different scales (even dr. scales) are calibrated differently...and frequently, hospitals and doctor's offices don't bother to get theirs recalibrated. That could account for the full ten pounds...or maybe 5 of the ten. Get tough with yourself, review what you are doing...check out your own scale...and know that weight fluctuates, particularly for women. For me, water makes a huge difference. If I have something salty one day, and not enough water, I can skyrocket up. I think it's dangerous to just ignore the gains completely...I think that's how most of us got to this pre-surgery weight. It wouldn't register or seem real. So, I think it's ok to hit the panic button, on some level. But, golly girl...if you are exercising and you aren't doing the "Gee, I exercise so much, of course I can now eat 6 times a day instead of 3" thing...well, it's just your body figuring out where it is comfortable (for the moment or the day). You aren't going to gain it all back. You are too vigilent and capable. You have the tools, and you are a different person today. You may feel like your body is betraying you, and in some ways, it is...but just assume its temporary. Be honest with yourself, and correct any little errant habits that you may have added to your routine (like, are you suddenly using half and half instead of nonfat milk...or are you adding a few more carbs here or there...). If you are being totally honest with yourself, and you are keeping on a real exercise schedule...it could be added muscle mass from your running. It can also be inflammation from an irritation to your body from the exercising. In other words, you might be retaining water as a result of some of your muscle fibers breaking down, to reform in greater mass. THat's a very normal process when you start working out like that. So, the water weight might go away soon. Keep heart, keep honest...and don't panic. It's not going to keep going up and up and up. It will equalize, as long as you aren't adding a bunch of sugar free candy (still calorically charged) or other things unconsciously.... You'll be fine, and you'll be where you need to be soon.l RobynnPamela A Marsh wrote: , I hear what you are saying and I understandwhere you are coming from. Sometimes you just have tosteal away and just give yourself the time to getthrough a situation. Sometimes you just have to gothrough a circumstance and let it run its course. Ipray that you will feel better real soon. Big hug foryou.Pam Marsh-19059.5 pounds gone but not forgotten--- Rose wrote:> , Muscle weighs more than fat so since you> have been working out allot and training hard for> the marathon thats probably contributing to the> gain. Don't stress on it take it day by day and if> you know your doing the right things than tell that> devil on your shoulder to go away.> Be proud of what you have done and keep it up. > Sometimes concentrating on something makes us> obsessed and it causes stress that also causes us to> gain weight. Go outside take a walk and be in the> sunshine and hopefully that will make you feel a> little better too. We are proud of you your doing> great.> Rose> > Diane Duenas wrote:> > Im going through a major depression, because like> you said there are > days when I still feel like that 315 pound person. I> went to the > doctor today and their scale said I was 160!! Thats> a 10 pound > difference since Friday and only major gorging would> have caused that > kind of weight gain. So while my head tells me Ive> been following the > program except for Sunday...something fishy is going> on. But seeing > that today brings up all my fears of going> backwards.> > Im scared, Im depressed and I feel like a failure.> > I did bring out my pictures, I did remind myself> that Im training for > a marathon and therefore building muscle, I reminded> myself that it > normal hormonal fluctuation, my clothing fits the> same if not looser, > ect ect ect. But deep down I feel like never eating> again. I feel so > frustrated. How can I be doing 90% right, exercising> every dang day > and have gained?!> > > I hear everyone's comments, but I cant shake this> feeling of > shame,and sense of failure.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most of us run, when a camera is pointed in> our general > > direction, > > > but > > > > trust me, having pictures to document your> journey is a big > > > > motivator. It helps to reflect on just how> far you've come now > > > and > > > > then, especially when you're far enough out to> be tempted to > > > return to > > > > old eating habits or trigger foods.> > > > > > > > I suggest taking full body "mug shots" once a> month. They can > > > really > > > > help, when you hit a plateau or are feeling> "fat again." Our > > > brains > > > > play huge tricks on us, as we adapt to the new> normal, and > > > reminding > > > > ourselves of our progress helps us recognize> of how far we've > > come > > > and > > > > why we don't want to relapse. > > > > > > > > I also recommend keeping the clothes you wore> to orientation. > > > Just > > > > tuck them away in a corner of your closet. > Take them out every > > > few > > > > months. Especially on the anniversary of your> surgery. You > > will > > > be > > > > amazed.> > > > > > > > Uncle Timmy -224> > > > > > ---------------------------------> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 , what might also make you feel good is if you can manage to be weighed underwater. IT's the most true measurement of your body fat percentage. It takes into account bone density and muscle...and lets you know where you are at. That's the best indicator of all...because you may be getting more bone mass from the pounding motion of the running and muscle mass. Knowing your fat percentage can help keep you on track.Uncle Timmy wrote: Hang in there . This too shall pass. You have lost half your body weight. That is a fantastic accomplishment! Sometimes we start this black or white, all or nothing, success or failure thinking, and it's hard to give ourselves a break.I know I'm much harder on myself than anyone else would be. It come from years of thinking that I had to be perfect, to be considered adequate and compensate for my weight. I still have trouble telling myself that good enough is good enuogh.Remember:1. The farther out you get, the slower the weight will come off. For the first three months post-op I literally lost a pound a day. Now, 21 months out, I've had to redefine success. I'm at the stage where maintenance is success. 2. The "exercise paradox." Since muscle weighs more than fat, the more you work out and develop muscle, the slower your weight loss. Also, you burn a lot fewer calories walking a mile at 160 than you did at 300.3. Never underestimate the hormonal/water retention effects of the "28-day crankies."4. Don't just weigh. Measure yourself. I had plenty of months when the scale didn't budge, but I went down a size. Go figure. Uncle Timmy -224> > > > > > > > Most of us run, when a camera is pointed in our general > > direction, > > > but > > > > trust me, having pictures to document your journey is a big > > > > motivator. It helps to reflect on just how far you've come now > > > and > > > > then, especially when you're far enough out to be tempted to > > > return to > > > > old eating habits or trigger foods.> > > > > > > > I suggest taking full body "mug shots" once a month. They can > > > really > > > > help, when you hit a plateau or are feeling "fat again." Our > > > brains > > > > play huge tricks on us, as we adapt to the new normal, and > > > reminding > > > > ourselves of our progress helps us recognize of how far we've > > come > > > and > > > > why we don't want to relapse. > > > > > > > > I also recommend keeping the clothes you wore to orientation. > > > Just > > > > tuck them away in a corner of your closet. Take them out every > > > few > > > > months. Especially on the anniversary of your surgery. You > > will > > > be > > > > amazed.> > > > > > > > Uncle Timmy -224 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 , what might also make you feel good is if you can manage to be weighed underwater. IT's the most true measurement of your body fat percentage. It takes into account bone density and muscle...and lets you know where you are at. That's the best indicator of all...because you may be getting more bone mass from the pounding motion of the running and muscle mass. Knowing your fat percentage can help keep you on track.Uncle Timmy wrote: Hang in there . This too shall pass. You have lost half your body weight. That is a fantastic accomplishment! Sometimes we start this black or white, all or nothing, success or failure thinking, and it's hard to give ourselves a break.I know I'm much harder on myself than anyone else would be. It come from years of thinking that I had to be perfect, to be considered adequate and compensate for my weight. I still have trouble telling myself that good enough is good enuogh.Remember:1. The farther out you get, the slower the weight will come off. For the first three months post-op I literally lost a pound a day. Now, 21 months out, I've had to redefine success. I'm at the stage where maintenance is success. 2. The "exercise paradox." Since muscle weighs more than fat, the more you work out and develop muscle, the slower your weight loss. Also, you burn a lot fewer calories walking a mile at 160 than you did at 300.3. Never underestimate the hormonal/water retention effects of the "28-day crankies."4. Don't just weigh. Measure yourself. I had plenty of months when the scale didn't budge, but I went down a size. Go figure. Uncle Timmy -224> > > > > > > > Most of us run, when a camera is pointed in our general > > direction, > > > but > > > > trust me, having pictures to document your journey is a big > > > > motivator. It helps to reflect on just how far you've come now > > > and > > > > then, especially when you're far enough out to be tempted to > > > return to > > > > old eating habits or trigger foods.> > > > > > > > I suggest taking full body "mug shots" once a month. They can > > > really > > > > help, when you hit a plateau or are feeling "fat again." Our > > > brains > > > > play huge tricks on us, as we adapt to the new normal, and > > > reminding > > > > ourselves of our progress helps us recognize of how far we've > > come > > > and > > > > why we don't want to relapse. > > > > > > > > I also recommend keeping the clothes you wore to orientation. > > > Just > > > > tuck them away in a corner of your closet. Take them out every > > > few > > > > months. Especially on the anniversary of your surgery. You > > will > > > be > > > > amazed.> > > > > > > > Uncle Timmy -224 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Thanks I keep telling myself all of that, but the angel and devil on my shoulder keep arguing!! LOL Huggles > > > > > > > > > > Most of us run, when a camera is pointed in our general > > > direction, > > > > but > > > > > trust me, having pictures to document your journey is a big > > > > > motivator. It helps to reflect on just how far you've come > now > > > > and > > > > > then, especially when you're far enough out to be tempted to > > > > return to > > > > > old eating habits or trigger foods. > > > > > > > > > > I suggest taking full body " mug shots " once a month. They > can > > > > really > > > > > help, when you hit a plateau or are feeling " fat again. " > Our > > > > brains > > > > > play huge tricks on us, as we adapt to the new normal, and > > > > reminding > > > > > ourselves of our progress helps us recognize of how far > we've > > > come > > > > and > > > > > why we don't want to relapse. > > > > > > > > > > I also recommend keeping the clothes you wore to > orientation. > > > > Just > > > > > tuck them away in a corner of your closet. Take them out > every > > > > few > > > > > months. Especially on the anniversary of your surgery. You > > > will > > > > be > > > > > amazed. > > > > > > > > > > Uncle Timmy -224 > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 AAAHHH Kerre you say the sweetest things!! LOL Thank you...I guess I better start listening to my own advice huh!! Huggles > > > > > > > > > > Most of us run, when a camera is pointed in our general > > > direction, > > > > but > > > > > trust me, having pictures to document your journey is a big > > > > > motivator. It helps to reflect on just how far you've come now > > > > and > > > > > then, especially when you're far enough out to be tempted to > > > > return to > > > > > old eating habits or trigger foods. > > > > > > > > > > I suggest taking full body " mug shots " once a month. They can > > > > really > > > > > help, when you hit a plateau or are feeling " fat again. " Our > > > > brains > > > > > play huge tricks on us, as we adapt to the new normal, and > > > > reminding > > > > > ourselves of our progress helps us recognize of how far we've > > > come > > > > and > > > > > why we don't want to relapse. > > > > > > > > > > I also recommend keeping the clothes you wore to orientation. > > > > Just > > > > > tuck them away in a corner of your closet. Take them out every > > > > few > > > > > months. Especially on the anniversary of your surgery. You > > > will > > > > be > > > > > amazed. > > > > > > > > > > Uncle Timmy -224 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 HI , One thing that could be going on is water retention. That would be my best guess. It could also be what time of day you got weighed or the clothes that you were wearing. What ever it is I am sure it is only temporary. The only way you could of gained and I mean truly gain is that you ate an excess of 35000 calories which I don't think happened. Remember you are still a young woman and I assume that you still have some semblance of a menstrual cycle. Which usually translates into raging hormones that can throw your body temporarily off kilter. It is funny how a number can send us swirling in either an upward or downward feeling of how we are successful. Don't be so hard on yourself. Ramona -- Re: Uncle Timmy Im going through a major depression, because like you said there are days when I still feel like that 315 pound person. I went to the doctor today and their scale said I was 160!! Thats a 10 pound difference since Friday and only major gorging would have caused that kind of weight gain. So while my head tells me Ive been following the program except for Sunday...something fishy is going on. But seeing that today brings up all my fears of going backwards. Im scared, Im depressed and I feel like a failure. I did bring out my pictures, I did remind myself that Im training for a marathon and therefore building muscle, I reminded myself that it normal hormonal fluctuation, my clothing fits the same if not looser, ect ect ect. But deep down I feel like never eating again. I feel so frustrated. How can I be doing 90% right, exercising every dang day and have gained?! I hear everyone's comments, but I cant shake this feeling of shame,and sense of failure. > > > > > > Most of us run, when a camera is pointed in our general > direction, > > but > > > trust me, having pictures to document your journey is a big > > > motivator. It helps to reflect on just how far you've come now > > and > > > then, especially when you're far enough out to be tempted to > > return to > > > old eating habits or trigger foods. > > > > > > I suggest taking full body "mug shots" once a month. They can > > really > > > help, when you hit a plateau or are feeling "fat again." Our > > brains > > > play huge tricks on us, as we adapt to the new normal, and > > reminding > > > ourselves of our progress helps us recognize of how far we've > come > > and > > > why we don't want to relapse. > > > > > > I also recommend keeping the clothes you wore to orientation. > > Just > > > tuck them away in a corner of your closet. Take them out every > > few > > > months. Especially on the anniversary of your surgery. You > will > > be > > > amazed. > > > > > > Uncle Timmy -224 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 HI , One thing that could be going on is water retention. That would be my best guess. It could also be what time of day you got weighed or the clothes that you were wearing. What ever it is I am sure it is only temporary. The only way you could of gained and I mean truly gain is that you ate an excess of 35000 calories which I don't think happened. Remember you are still a young woman and I assume that you still have some semblance of a menstrual cycle. Which usually translates into raging hormones that can throw your body temporarily off kilter. It is funny how a number can send us swirling in either an upward or downward feeling of how we are successful. Don't be so hard on yourself. Ramona -- Re: Uncle Timmy Im going through a major depression, because like you said there are days when I still feel like that 315 pound person. I went to the doctor today and their scale said I was 160!! Thats a 10 pound difference since Friday and only major gorging would have caused that kind of weight gain. So while my head tells me Ive been following the program except for Sunday...something fishy is going on. But seeing that today brings up all my fears of going backwards. Im scared, Im depressed and I feel like a failure. I did bring out my pictures, I did remind myself that Im training for a marathon and therefore building muscle, I reminded myself that it normal hormonal fluctuation, my clothing fits the same if not looser, ect ect ect. But deep down I feel like never eating again. I feel so frustrated. How can I be doing 90% right, exercising every dang day and have gained?! I hear everyone's comments, but I cant shake this feeling of shame,and sense of failure. > > > > > > Most of us run, when a camera is pointed in our general > direction, > > but > > > trust me, having pictures to document your journey is a big > > > motivator. It helps to reflect on just how far you've come now > > and > > > then, especially when you're far enough out to be tempted to > > return to > > > old eating habits or trigger foods. > > > > > > I suggest taking full body "mug shots" once a month. They can > > really > > > help, when you hit a plateau or are feeling "fat again." Our > > brains > > > play huge tricks on us, as we adapt to the new normal, and > > reminding > > > ourselves of our progress helps us recognize of how far we've > come > > and > > > why we don't want to relapse. > > > > > > I also recommend keeping the clothes you wore to orientation. > > Just > > > tuck them away in a corner of your closet. Take them out every > > few > > > months. Especially on the anniversary of your surgery. You > will > > be > > > amazed. > > > > > > Uncle Timmy -224 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 I live in Pinole, work in Richmond, and attend Kaiser meetings in Richmond and SSF. I've been meaning to get to the Oakland meeting, but I'm off to Lake Tahoe in fine minutes, for a friend's wedding. Hopefully I'll meet you in Oakland next month! Uncle Timmy -226 > > >I always tell newbies to enjoy the honeymoon period, when the weight > >just falls off, because that's the easiest part of this journey. > >I'm almost two years out (06/30) and believe me, maintenance is WAY > >harder than the surgery ever was. I had a hard time redefining > >success after I stopped losing. To help me stay on track, I graph > >my daily weight. (Can you tell I'm obsessive/compulsive?) As long as > >the line is more or less horizontal, I try to be satisfied. If it > >starts to creep up though, it's a visual cue to be more mindful of > >what I've been doing (or not doing) lately. > > > >Uncle Timmy -226 > > > > > -- > Eleanor Oster > eleanor@s... (personal address) > www.smallboxes.com/gastricbypass.htm > San , CA > Open RNY (100 cm bypassed) 07/15/2003 > P. Fisher, M.D., Kaiser Richmond (CA) > ~5'9 " tall > 05/09/2003 319 Orientation > 07/15/2003 ~290 Surgery > Current ~150 Goal until plastics? > Goal 140-150? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 Uncle Timmy, We'd love to have you next month at the Oakland meeting. I really appreciate your kind words and advice about my body image issues. You've given me new resolve to get this worked out and move on with my life. Have fun in Tahoe! pascha =) > > > > >I always tell newbies to enjoy the honeymoon period, when the > weight > > >just falls off, because that's the easiest part of this journey. > > >I'm almost two years out (06/30) and believe me, maintenance is > WAY > > >harder than the surgery ever was. I had a hard time redefining > > >success after I stopped losing. To help me stay on track, I > graph > > >my daily weight. (Can you tell I'm obsessive/compulsive?) As long > as > > >the line is more or less horizontal, I try to be satisfied. If > it > > >starts to creep up though, it's a visual cue to be more mindful > of > > >what I've been doing (or not doing) lately. > > > > > >Uncle Timmy -226 > > > > > > > > -- > > Eleanor Oster > > eleanor@s... (personal address) > > www.smallboxes.com/gastricbypass.htm > > San , CA > > Open RNY (100 cm bypassed) 07/15/2003 > > P. Fisher, M.D., Kaiser Richmond (CA) > > ~5'9 " tall > > 05/09/2003 319 Orientation > > 07/15/2003 ~290 Surgery > > Current ~150 Goal until plastics? > > Goal 140-150? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 Uncle Timmy, We'd love to have you next month at the Oakland meeting. I really appreciate your kind words and advice about my body image issues. You've given me new resolve to get this worked out and move on with my life. Have fun in Tahoe! pascha =) > > > > >I always tell newbies to enjoy the honeymoon period, when the > weight > > >just falls off, because that's the easiest part of this journey. > > >I'm almost two years out (06/30) and believe me, maintenance is > WAY > > >harder than the surgery ever was. I had a hard time redefining > > >success after I stopped losing. To help me stay on track, I > graph > > >my daily weight. (Can you tell I'm obsessive/compulsive?) As long > as > > >the line is more or less horizontal, I try to be satisfied. If > it > > >starts to creep up though, it's a visual cue to be more mindful > of > > >what I've been doing (or not doing) lately. > > > > > >Uncle Timmy -226 > > > > > > > > -- > > Eleanor Oster > > eleanor@s... (personal address) > > www.smallboxes.com/gastricbypass.htm > > San , CA > > Open RNY (100 cm bypassed) 07/15/2003 > > P. Fisher, M.D., Kaiser Richmond (CA) > > ~5'9 " tall > > 05/09/2003 319 Orientation > > 07/15/2003 ~290 Surgery > > Current ~150 Goal until plastics? > > Goal 140-150? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 Uncle Timmy, We'd love to have you next month at the Oakland meeting. I really appreciate your kind words and advice about my body image issues. You've given me new resolve to get this worked out and move on with my life. Have fun in Tahoe! pascha =) > > > > >I always tell newbies to enjoy the honeymoon period, when the > weight > > >just falls off, because that's the easiest part of this journey. > > >I'm almost two years out (06/30) and believe me, maintenance is > WAY > > >harder than the surgery ever was. I had a hard time redefining > > >success after I stopped losing. To help me stay on track, I > graph > > >my daily weight. (Can you tell I'm obsessive/compulsive?) As long > as > > >the line is more or less horizontal, I try to be satisfied. If > it > > >starts to creep up though, it's a visual cue to be more mindful > of > > >what I've been doing (or not doing) lately. > > > > > >Uncle Timmy -226 > > > > > > > > -- > > Eleanor Oster > > eleanor@s... (personal address) > > www.smallboxes.com/gastricbypass.htm > > San , CA > > Open RNY (100 cm bypassed) 07/15/2003 > > P. Fisher, M.D., Kaiser Richmond (CA) > > ~5'9 " tall > > 05/09/2003 319 Orientation > > 07/15/2003 ~290 Surgery > > Current ~150 Goal until plastics? > > Goal 140-150? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 Best of luck on your reconstructive surgery. Your wit and wisdom will be missed. BTW...I put the Bleep movie in my Netflix queue...Should get it Wednesday since I returned a DVD this morning(season 2 of Wonder Woman. Awesomely bad! Great memories! Wish I still had my WW Underoos!). pascha =) -130 lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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