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Does anyone know if an intern can perform a surgery without the surgeon there. Say if the intern was almost finished with his/her internship, and is almost ready to go into private practice for themselves, could he/she perform a DS with another assistant who is also a intern. I do know that when I had my surgery the 2 females who were training to be anesthelogist put me to sleep with out an anesthelogist being present. I know this for a fact, because I questioned them and they told me this themselves. I was worried, but they assured me they had done it many times, and knew what they were doing.

This is so important that I find my answer to my question, so if anyone knows, would you please email me.

Thank You so Much,

Patti

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You may be confusing interns with residents. Interns are medical students without an MD. Residents are MDs who are in additional training. Fellows are MDs following residency who go for highly specialized training.

Your story sounds like you were dealing with Anesthesiologist Residents. Is this possible?

in SeattleDS 1/5/01Dr Welker

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Does anyone know if an intern can perform a surgery without the surgeon there. Say if the intern was almost finished with his/her internship, and is almost ready to go into private practice for themselves, could he/she perform a DS with another assistant who is also a intern. I do know that when I had my surgery the 2 females who were training to be anesthelogist put me to sleep with out an anesthelogist being present. I know this for a fact, because I questioned them and they told me this themselves. I was worried, but they assured me they had done it many times, and knew what they were doing.

This is so important that I find my answer to my question, so if anyone knows, would you please email me.

Thank You so Much,

Patti

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Yes , I believe they were Residents.

Do you know if 2 Residents could perform a DS?

Thanks,

Patti

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You may be confusing interns with residents. Interns are medical students without an MD. Residents are MDs who are in additional training. Fellows are MDs following residency who go for highly specialized training.

Your story sounds like you were dealing with Anesthesiologist Residents. Is this possible?

in SeattleDS 1/5/01Dr Welker

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From: Patti Skiba

Does anyone know if an intern can perform a surgery without the surgeon there. Say if the intern was almost finished with his/her internship, and is almost ready to go into private practice for themselves, could he/she perform a DS with another assistant who is also a intern. I do know that when I had my surgery the 2 females who were training to be anesthelogist put me to sleep with out an anesthelogist being present. I know this for a fact, because I questioned them and they told me this themselves. I was worried, but they assured me they had done it many times, and knew what they were doing.

This is so important that I find my answer to my question, so if anyone knows, would you please email me.

Thank You so Much,

Patti

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I have never heard of residents performing that complex of a surgery without the presence of the attending surgeon other than in rare life and death emergencies. Each patient has to have an attending physician/surgeon. I can't imagine one of them taking on the medical liability risk of having a resident perform a surgery without them being present and in charge. I can see that you might be under the anesthetic before the attending arrives, however.

But hey, a new and more weird medical tale comes to my attention regularly.

in SeattleDS 1/5/01Dr Welker

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From: Patti Skiba

Yes , I believe they were Residents.

Do you know if 2 Residents could perform a DS?

Thanks,

Patti

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You may be confusing interns with residents. Interns are medical students without an MD. Residents are MDs who are in additional training. Fellows are MDs following residency who go for highly specialized training.

Your story sounds like you were dealing with Anesthesiologist Residents. Is this possible?

in SeattleDS 1/5/01Dr Welker

----- Original Message -----

From: Patti Skiba

Does anyone know if an intern can perform a surgery without the surgeon there. Say if the intern was almost finished with his/her internship, and is almost ready to go into private practice for themselves, could he/she perform a DS with another assistant who is also a intern. I do know that when I had my surgery the 2 females who were training to be anesthelogist put me to sleep with out an anesthelogist being present. I know this for a fact, because I questioned them and they told me this themselves. I was worried, but they assured me they had done it many times, and knew what they were doing.

This is so important that I find my answer to my question, so if anyone knows, would you please email me.

Thank You so Much,

Patti

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I would not allow a resident, 1, 2 or 10 continue with an induction,

intubation and anesthesia administration to surgical/operative level

without an attending or nurse anestisist (sp) being present.

I think that is bad medicine and leaves an attending,including the

surgeon open to liability.

ciar

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I am assuming you mean a resident doctor?

Yes, a resident is an actual doctor who has chosen to continue their

studies by working under the tutelage of another doctor or doctors.

Becoming a resident is normally standard practice for most doctors, but

they are not required to do so. Once a person has passed medical school,

they can become licensed to practice medicine, even without undertaking a

residency somewhere.

If you do not wish to have a resident doctor work on you, you should

state that up front, and let them know which doctor you would like

working on you.

The resident would not be allowed to operate on their own if the main

doctor was not completely confident of their skills, however, I would

imagine the main doctor was close by, if not in the room, and would not

let the resident do anything stupid.

At 05:19 PM 2/4/2001 -0600, you wrote:

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anyone know if an intern can perform a surgery without the surgeon there.

Say if the intern was almost finished with his/her internship, and

is almost ready to go into private practice for themselves, could he/she

perform a DS with another assistant who is also a intern. I do know

that when I had my surgery the 2 females who were training to be

anesthelogist put me to sleep with out an anesthelogist being present. I

know this for a fact, because I questioned them and they told me this

themselves. I was worried, but they assured me they had done it many

times, and knew what they were doing.

This is so important that I find my answer to

my question, so if anyone knows, would you please email me.

Thank You so Much,

Patti

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