A few things

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Y steve you Devil you told me that you were investing in the Future or errrr I

guess you were right! your still here!!!! Ken

Re: A few things

Hi Marina,

Oh no! I hope it doesn't look like a war has started. I thought the ladies

were just pushing buttons in jest. I still think that is the case.

If your desire for me to keep my moon shots private is with the majority of

the members, I won't post them (yet).

Deception: I deceived my family and friends, mostly in telling lies. I.e.,

lied to my employer and peers for the reason I was taking time off from work,

lied repeatedly to account for my time spent taking pre-op tests, exams, and

consults, lied in connection with the $15,000 cash as I accumulated it in

preparation for the surgery, and lied, giving every impression that I was going

to be finishing a remodel at home, but instead jetted to Stockholm to drop

$15,000. Deception--yes! Regrets--none!!!!!!

And hugs to you too Marina!

--steve

Marina said:

. . . hehehe looks like the " gender war " has started on the list.

. . . post your pictures, so we can put a face on your names ... I

said faces (not moons) !!!

>I would do it YEARS SOONER! but still feel SECRECY and DECEPTION are

best (for me)

Why deception, Steve ???

Cheers,

Marina, Switzerland

38 yo, 5'8 " , single

Dec. 7, 1997 : 115.3 kg - 254 lb / Today : 92.0 kg - 202.5 lb

23.3 kg - 51.5 lb gone forever

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From Lois Jervis loislane@...

Hi everyone,

The Australians in our group have been very quiet of late, there must be only a

few of us left.

When I was looking into my surgery I found it quite difficult to find

information about the band, not the technical stuff but what it was really like

to experience life with a band. I stumbled on Olwen's site first and then found

Barbara's which was a great inspiration to me. I feel that there should be more

stories like Barbara's page and I would have no problem being part of that. I

don't know how to write a web page as I am just mastering the basics on the

computer. My story as I have said before has already been made public and that

is probably the reason why I like this idea. I realise that it isn't for

everyone but it does help reading about what people go through, the ups and

downs etc.

Sharon, I was very nervous before my op and wrote a letter. After I came home

my kids said they knew I had nothing to worry about! LOL

Good luck everyone who is having surgery over the next few days/week and looking

forward to hear from you all on the 'other side'.

Caryn, Thank you for your kind words. I'm feeling a little better about myself

and have had my hair done and looking into buying some new clothes. Watch out

world! LOL

Lois from Brisbane, Australia

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Dear Lois

I would love to add you to the web page, do not worry about writing the

HTML Just write me your story or anything you would

like to be posted in an email and I will do the rest of the work for you!

Send it to bandsters@... and it will be added to the Bandsters web

site. If you have pictures you would like to include you can sent them via

snail mail or have someone put them on a disk for you.

Kim

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Marina,

Thanks for the encouraging words, I know I'm impatient, but I guess that I

didn't want to have a stand still or even a plateau this early in the game.

I've got another appointment for this Monday with the doc for another

fill. I called the office just a little while ago and the patient advocate

said that I should be feeling something. So at least the office is VERY

supportive and caring.

T.

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Marina,

How come there's nothing in your note???? I've noticed that your postings

are blank??? Got any ideas??

T.

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/// How come there's nothing in your note???? I've noticed that your postings

are blank??? Got any ideas?? ///

Dear Terri,

Not I don't know why. How many postings are blank ? I will try and send

them again.

Thank you for telling me Terri !

Hugs,

Marina

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Marina,

OK, this time I got both notes that you sent OK!!! I wonder if it's me!!!

T.

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Hi Marina

I tried calling Dr Frering today without any joy....I think that he was out

to Lunch...but since my French is limited to talking about a boy/waiter who

is on a table I'm not sure if I got the gist of what they were trying to

tell me....

As a last resort, I'm thinking about making a 3-way telephone call to talk

to Dr Frering.... I can either use Klaus or I can get somebody else to

translate....Ummm, maybe I'll ask Janet to assist as she knows Dr Frering.

Anyway, I remain ever optimistic....

Ronke ;-)

A few things

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>

> Hello everybody,

>

> /// Don't worry Debie, I'm taking my camera, that way I can be behind the

> camera and not in front ///

> No, no, no Janet. I'm sure that Helen's husband will be extremely

pleased to

> take a picture of you all ... ;-)

>

> /// I can't remember who in here said it, but I feel like I am getting in

tune

> with my body more and more ///

> Dear ,

> It was like that for me too, and not anymore. Why ? I don't know. I

think

> that my psychical side doesn't follow well. I really need to work on it.

> Debie said lately that she has learned to throw away the food that was too

> much. I did that too. That was such a victory for me. I don't do it

> anymore. I know that I need a fill, and perhaps if I have waited so long

to

> get it, it's because I'm not sure I am ready for it. Still haven't found

a

> psych who deals with eating disorders ... That's what I need now. I'm

so

> sure about it.

>

> Dear Ronke,

> I hope that you have been able (or your sister's boyfriend) to call the

doctor

> in Lyon, and that you now have an appointment. Let us know please.

We are

> with you. :-)

>

> Take care all !

> Marina, Switzerland

> 39 yo, 5'8 " , single

> Dec. 7, 1997 : 115.3 kg - 254 lbs / Today : 92.0 kg - 202.5 lbs

> 23.3 kg - 51.5 lbs gone forever

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From Lois Jervis loislane@...

Hi everyone,

Welcome Steve, I hope everything is going well after your op.

Steph, I'm sorry to hear about your problems. I had wondered if you moved up

here but now I understand. My thoughts are with you.

Debie, I hope your horse is getting better and congratulations on your fantastic

weightloss. You must be so proud of yourself.

Marina, Keep up your spirits. I still think you need a fill but only you know

your own body.

I went for my lapband clinic today and I'm now down to 112kg so I am pleased. I

also had my skinfold tests too and I have lost there too. My doctor gave me a

fill which was a surprise as I thought I would have to go back again next week.

He put in 1ml so I have 1.75ml in now. I wanted to be like everyone else and

only eat small amounts. I am eating a bowl of soup at the moment and I have

only had a few mouthfuls and I'm full. YES!!!!

Jo and Grace,

Our meeting place has been torn down, like everything else in the middle of the

mall. :-( We will have to find somewhere else to go.

Best wishes to everyone,

Lois from Brisbane, Australia

Dec 98 op 130kg (286 pounds)

May 99 112kg (246.4 pounds)

18kg (39.6 pounds) gone forever. 100kg here I come.

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My Dear Marina, I wish you luck with your search for a psych and hope that

this name that you have got from your doctor is the right man for the job.

I am amazed that you have had such difficulty finding someone.

Love

Janet

At 23:04 27/05/99 +0200, you wrote:

>

>

>Hello everybody,

>

>Today I went to see my doctor for a fill. As I haven't lost weight

>since early January, and even gained some pounds lately, he wants to

>check if there is any slippage, or stretched pouch, etc. before filling

>the band. So I will go back to the hospital on Monday morning, to have

>an x-ray and hopefully get a fill.

>

>Regarding my search for a psychiatrist:

>I still wasn't able to find a psych, even after a few phone-calls.

>Really frustrating indeed. My doctor already told me once that he

>didn't know any psychiatrist specialised in eating disorders. When he

>saw how desperate I was, he called one of his colleagues in Lausanne and

>asked him about it. So I've got a name ! I haven't had a chance to

>call this doctor today, so I will try and do it tomorrow. Keep your

>fingers crossed for me guys, so perhaps will I finally get an

>appointment ! ...

>

>Dear ,

>Sorry to hear about your sister-in-law. I hope that she can get better

>finally, or that she will be able to change for a gastric banding.

>And congratulations to you, with your weight loss. You're doing great

>!

>

>/// Liking ourselves ///

>I can't say that I don't like myself ... I can't even say that I

>don't like my body, because I'm tall and don't have tooooooo bad

>proportions. And probably, I don't feel in my head as fat as I am (or

>was). BUT, especially before the operation, if I saw my reflect in a

>window, or a mirror, or so ... then my day was over. :-(

>There are also moments when I really don't like myself, or don't trust

>myself, like when I eat too much because I feel down. It's a vicious

>circle ...

>

>Dear ,

>Welcome to the Bandsters. If you want to chat, you can go to

>http://members.home.com/adjband/main.htm then to the chat link. You

>might find somebody in the chat room, or you can send an e-mail to the

>list saying that you'd like to chat. If there is anybody interested

>online, then you won't be alone. Otherwise, there is an " official "

>schedule. It's on Saturday afternoon for you. Don't know the exact

>time in Texas, but it's at 2.00 pm in the Western USA and at 5.00 pm in

>the Eastern USA. Perhaps will you join us in the next chat ...

>

>Dear Aly,

>I wonder what ONLY MEN can understand ... :-)

>

>Dear Denny,

>I don't remember having had such a gas attack. I hope that you're ok

>by now.

>

>All the best !

>Marina, Switzerland

>

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/// I happened to find school things easy....I hope this doesn't sound

as if I am showing off.....it was just that the type of brain that I was

given at birth happens to be suited to our academic system in this

country!!! ///

Oh no you're not showing off, dear Helen. LOL I love the way you

say things. Have you never thought of a diplomatic carrier ? :-)))

More seriously, you are so lovable ... I really don't understand how

own parents can sometimes hurt a child feelings this way and ruin

his/her life. Fortunately, you are a bright person who can understand

this it's their loss, eventually. You now have your family, with a

loving husband, great children, and you do your best for them and

yourself. I wish you all the best ! (and believe me, that's the least

you deserve ...).

/// I wanted a no hassels,no brainer, no pain weight lose. ///

Everybody's dream, Callie. Everybody ! but ...

Dear Kim,

We will miss you in the week-end chat. But you're right, take

advantage of the summer ! I wish you all the best for your fund

raising.

/// Week-end chat ///

I had thought that we could have changed the time or the day for our

chat, but one of the problems is the cost of it. In the US and Canada,

you don't pay the phone lines. In the rest of the world (Australia,

too, I think), you pay every minute you are online. That's why it's

better to do it during the week-end, when the phone fares are down.

And you all know how long can a chat last when you are in good company

.... Any suggestions ?

Dear Janet,

you are always soooooooooo nice ! Ooooops still have your

translation ... Sorry about it. Haven't been too much on the puter

lately. I'll try and finish it during the week-end :-)

Dear Lori,

Are you ok girl ? Don't let the depression go too far. Use some

help. I have realized the other day that since a few years, I feel

down every spring. I'm amazed. The season of year I prefer (with

summer) when the good days arrive ... and I feel down. It's a

fact. Don't know why.

Dear Molly,

35 lbs in 6 weeks ! You're doing great !!! Think positive, don't

let the negative thoughts come to you. It won't help, believe me.

Good luck Chani !

You're right to take the time to make your research before taking your

decision. I certainly hope it won't be the case, but what will you do

if your insurance don't cover the operation ? Will you go to France to

have it ?

Good luck to your sister !

DON'T MISS THE CHAT TONIGHT !!!

Cheers,

Marina, Switzerland