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<< Hi every one. Need just a tiny bit of help. Well, maybe more.

Doris wants a copy of the Support report and I can't find her e-mail addy/

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, Doris e mail is goodcook@...

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Hi every one. Need just a tiny bit of help. Well, maybe more.

Doris wants a copy of the Support report and I can't find her e-mail addy/

I know it is goodcook@ ????? at what?

Mike care to share it.

Anyone?

Thanks.

R.

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What about the Freeda SCD legal supplements, they have B12 in them. I take the B

complex, the multivitamin & mineral and the calcium. The multivitamin has the

biggest amount of B12. I ordered them online, enquire at Lucy's Kitchen Shop on

the internet. I live in Oz, and so was willing to pay the high postage costs to

get it, so I had something legal to take everyday.

> Hi , I copy & pasted the B12 info. I had about 8 symptoms! I was on

> the SCD for at least 2 years before my symptoms ceased. But I had

> inadvertently been taking illegals in my vitamins and anti-inflammatory. The

> pain and the worst of the D subsided right away on the SCD. Only got rid of

> the D when I stopped the supplements with the illegals in them. No more D.

> Also, note that there are no legal sub-lingual (under the tongue) B12. Shots

> are recommended. I got my 1st one through my doctor along with a script for

> B12 serum & needles. It's not hard to inject yourself, I do it in my thigh.

> I did 1,000mcg (equals 1 cc) once a week for about 7 weeks, then every 2

> weeks for a few weeks. I'm still at once every 2 weeks.

>

> Carol

>

> CD 21 yrs

>

> SCD 4.5 yrs

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> If you are a typical person and do not have intestinal disease you likely do

> not have this problem. It is rare. Many doctors will miss you! Normal folk

> are most vulnerable to vitamin b12 deficiency if you've vegan and don't use

> the available dietary supplements containing vitamin b12. Infants

> breast-feeding from vegan mothers can also be at risk. Vitamin b12

> supplements are generally regarded as safe because there are few known

> adverse effects of overdose.

>

> The main symptom that arises from vitamin b12 deficiency is a type of anemia

> that causes you to feel tired, weak and lethargic. You might also feel

> nauseous, constipated and become very flatulent (gas). You may also lose

> your appetite and suffer weight loss.

>

> More severe cases can give vitamin b12 deficiency symptoms, which include:

>

> * Burning sensation of the tongue

> * Numbness or tingling in the hands or feet

> * Insomnia

> * Loss of memory

> * Dizziness

> * Lack of balance

> * Depression

> * Digestive problems

> * Dizziness

> * Liver enlargement

> * Eye problems

> * Headaches

> * Mental Illness and Hallucinations

> * Inflamed tongue

> * Breathing difficulties

> * Loss of memory

> * Palpitations

> * Neurological damage

> * Worsening of autistic symptoms

> * Tinnitus or ringing in the ears

>

> Vitamin b12 is commonly found in animal products like eggs, dairy, fish,

> meat and animal organs. B12 is rarely found in vegetables, which is why

> vegetarians and especially vegans who don't eat dairy products or meat, are

> especially at risk. If you fall into this category then you should consider

> using vitamin supplements containing b12. The problem is, only the

> injections and nasal sprays will be best absorbed. The gut does not absorb

> the vitamin B12 taken orally that well. Most sublingual preparations are

> not SCD compliant and contain illegal sugars and starches.

>

> It's also important to realize that the operation of vitamin b12 is

> dependent on sufficient quantities of other vitamins being present in your

> body so you should take care to get a balanced diet to avoid vitamin b12

> deficiency symptoms. This is why a good B complex and a good multi-vitamin

> is needed. Just taking b12 alone is not a good idea.

>

> Remember: Elaine G recognized that this is a big concern with those of us

> who have a " Vicious cycle " . She tells us that we need to have blood serum

> levels that are at a " high normal " . Many doctors do not realize that even

> borderline deficiency can cause significant problems. They may see that it

> is in range at a " low normal " and think that this is adequate when it is

> simply not.

>

> I also suggest that one does not take their vitamins before having these

> tests. One could get a false negative, when in reality you are truly

> suffering from this. I know...my doctor originally missed me! I took my

> B's before the test. I had to advocate for myself telling her and insisting

> that she give me B12. I finally got my GI doctor to help me. This is when

> my mental health began to improve and that horrible burning in my mouth

> (especially at night) vanished. My energy improved too. I only had to do

> this therapy for 9 months. Now that my gut is healed I am not having the

> symptoms any more of B12 deficiency. So I know now that my good gut bugs

> are making adequate amounts now, and that I am able to utilize it.

>

> Hope this helps others!

>

> God Bless every ones healing journey!

>

> Antoinette and my family of Silly Yaks

> (SCD 2/06)

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> Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:24 pm

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> From: BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf

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> Carol-

> The link you provided regarding the B12 deficiency only works if you are

> a member of the group. Can you tell in a nutshell how you knew you were

> low in B12?

>

> Also, I'm curious. How long before you would say the SCD allowed your

> Crohn's to be manageable and you were free of most symptoms?

>

> Thanks for your advice.

>

>

> Wife of Fred, UC 03/06, SCD 04/21/09

>

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Hi , Yes Freeda Supplements are legal. I would recommend

getting tested for B12 levels from your doctor through a simple blood test. Don’t

take any B complex a day before your test, you might not get an accurate

reading. Also since B vitamins are water soluble I like to break the B Complex

in half and take half in the morning and the other half in early evening. That

way not so much is wasted when you urinate. However, if you are like me and

have no Intrinsic Factor present to carry the B12 to where it gets absorbed,

then you probably need to do B12 shots. I resisted the shots for a long time because

I’m squeamish about needles, but I got over it. It has been so helpful

for me!

Carol

CD 21 yrs

SCD 4.5 yrs

From:

BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of naomipacey

What about the Freeda SCD legal supplements,

they have B12 in them. I take the B complex, the multivitamin & mineral and

the calcium. The multivitamin has the biggest amount of B12. I ordered them

online, enquire at Lucy's Kitchen Shop on the internet. I live in Oz, and so

was willing to pay the high postage costs to get it, so I had something legal

to take everyday.

> Hi , I copy & pasted the B12 info. I had about 8 symptoms! I

was on

> the SCD for at least 2 years before my symptoms ceased. But I had

> inadvertently been taking illegals in my vitamins and anti-inflammatory.

The

> pain and the worst of the D subsided right away on the SCD. Only got rid

of

> the D when I stopped the supplements with the illegals in them. No more D.

> Also, note that there are no legal sub-lingual (under the tongue) B12.

Shots

> are recommended. I got my 1st one through my doctor along with a script

for

> B12 serum & needles. It's not hard to inject yourself, I do it in my

thigh.

> I did 1,000mcg (equals 1 cc) once a week for about 7 weeks, then every 2

> weeks for a few weeks. I'm still at once every 2 weeks.

>

> Carol

>

> CD 21 yrs

>

> SCD 4.5 yrs

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