Guest guest Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 Dana, Wow is all I can say. I've never heard a more negative statement from a medical person -- or from anyone. I'm sorry you had to endure that. But I'm happy to hear that you rose above it and (much as I would do) are taking this on as a personal challenge! How dare anyone tell us we CAN'T change our habits! How Ruuuuude!! I'm changing mine, and I intend, with the help of and skills I've learned from Weight Watchers, to keep them changed...for the better. And by the way, I'm 56 too. Who says an old dog can't learn new tricks? Bette 278/187/175 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 Greetings, all-- I have a question. On two different occasions recently, when I've mentioned that I started WW or started working out, I've been told by two different doctors that people generally do not change; that we have our habits and they are what we always revert to. The message I take from this is that they're saying it's unlikely I'll stick with WW or stick with working out for any helpful length of time. (I actually have a long history of working out and sticking with it, but over the past few years, typically after 3-6 months, I experience an injury --often plantar's fasciitis--that puts me on the couch for a while. I've learned to vary my routine--one exercise one day, a different one another day, and that has helped a lot.) Anyway, it seems like there must be a new study out on this subject or something that all the docs are reading, since I've heard it from 2 different ones in different practices. I'm prepared now to say the next time that one of them sez this something like, " I appreciate that you have your studies, but I don't think you should ever doubt human capacity for change, even if I'm the only person you meet this year who is successful. " I thought I'd put this out there and see if any of you feel like sharing stories of your own change at whatever stage of life you are. Heck, I'm 56 years old, and I have no doubt I can be successful at WW and/or getting healthier in general if I put my mind to it. What do you think? Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 Dana, I think you just happened to get a couple of cynical doctors in a row. Most people don't change their personalities and habits after the age of 25, but that's not a hard-and-fast rule by any means! -- Sláinte, S. Crawford (AIM: Buffalo2K) http://www.mossroot.com http://www.stonegoose.com/catseyeview " You cannot trust your judgement if your imagination is out of focus. " --Mark Twain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 Dana, I'm sure your doctors have seen a lot of people start a new diet/exercise lifestyle and then revert to their old ways. But to say, across the board, that this will happen to everyone including you is so defeatist and so wrong. You need support and positive affirmation at this time, and I am so glad you're here because that is just what you'll get. You'll be encouraged and cheered on and given helpful suggestions when you need them. Yes many people don't stick with their lifestyle changes, but you seem very determined and I know you'll do great. I think there's this " moment " ... I call it ... this point you come to when you know that this time it is it: this time I'm going to take off the pounds and never look back. This happened for me almost 2 years ago and I have been on maintenance for close to a year. I've dealt with saboteurs and doubters, but their negative attitudes didn't stop me. We're here to help you prove those doctors wrong. My best to you in your exercise and eating changes. ch-ch-ch-changes > Greetings, all-- > > I have a question. On two different occasions recently, when I've mentioned > that I started WW or started working out, I've been told by two different > doctors that people generally do not change; that we have our habits and > they are what we always revert to. The message I take from this is that > they're saying it's unlikely I'll stick with WW or stick with working out > for any helpful length of time. (I actually have a long history of working > out and sticking with it, but over the past few years, typically after 3-6 > months, I experience an injury --often plantar's fasciitis--that puts me on > the couch for a while. I've learned to vary my routine--one exercise one > day, a different one another day, and that has helped a lot.) Anyway, it > seems like there must be a new study out on this subject or something that > all the docs are reading, since I've heard it from 2 different ones in > different practices. > > I'm prepared now to say the next time that one of them sez this something > like, " I appreciate that you have your studies, but I don't think you should > ever doubt human capacity for change, even if I'm the only person you meet > this year who is successful. " > > I thought I'd put this out there and see if any of you feel like sharing > stories of your own change at whatever stage of life you are. Heck, I'm 56 > years old, and I have no doubt I can be successful at WW and/or getting > healthier in general if I put my mind to it. > > What do you think? > > Dana > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 Wow ... that was a pretty inspiring message! I just re-joined Weight Watchers this week, and I usually have somewhat of a defeatist attitude myself. But this time, I did have that " epiphany " you were talking about. I just looked at myself in the mirror good and hard one day, and just started thinking about how badly I really did want things to change. And I'm working hard at it too ... I'm on the lookout for new recipes to try out (I get bored and frustrated easily), and I'm taking the attitude that I know there'll be setbacks, but that's okay cause I'll just keep plugging along! ch-ch-ch-changes > Greetings, all-- > > I have a question. On two different occasions recently, when I've mentioned > that I started WW or started working out, I've been told by two different > doctors that people generally do not change; that we have our habits and > they are what we always revert to. The message I take from this is that > they're saying it's unlikely I'll stick with WW or stick with working out > for any helpful length of time. (I actually have a long history of working > out and sticking with it, but over the past few years, typically after 3-6 > months, I experience an injury --often plantar's fasciitis--that puts me on > the couch for a while. I've learned to vary my routine--one exercise one > day, a different one another day, and that has helped a lot.) Anyway, it > seems like there must be a new study out on this subject or something that > all the docs are reading, since I've heard it from 2 different ones in > different practices. > > I'm prepared now to say the next time that one of them sez this something > like, " I appreciate that you have your studies, but I don't think you should > ever doubt human capacity for change, even if I'm the only person you meet > this year who is successful. " > > I thought I'd put this out there and see if any of you feel like sharing > stories of your own change at whatever stage of life you are. Heck, I'm 56 > years old, and I have no doubt I can be successful at WW and/or getting > healthier in general if I put my mind to it. > > What do you think? > > Dana > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 Amen DANA! Those doctors are idiots. I'm sorry, but what a horribly negative thing to say. Do they say that to all their patients? " Yeah, it's nice you want to stop smoking, but studies show that most people don't so why bother? Smoke away. Shall I bring red or white roses to your funeral? " I say find another doctor right now. These guys aren't interested in your health; physical or mental. It just steams my 0 point bean that they would even SAY this! From a former couch potato who is now very physically active and has been on Wwers every single day since February 2, 2002 and has had a total of two days (in the first six months) that she hasn't been on program...AND has lost over 100 pounds, I say to he77 with their " opinions " on people not generally changing. Oooh, that ticks me off! > ch-ch-ch-changes > > > Greetings, all-- > > I have a question. On two different occasions recently, when > I've mentioned that I started WW or started working out, I've > been told by two different doctors that people generally do > not change; that we have our habits and they are what we > always revert to. The message I take from this is that > they're saying it's unlikely I'll stick with WW or stick with > working out for any helpful length of time. (I actually have > a long history of working out and sticking with it, but over > the past few years, typically after 3-6 months, I experience > an injury --often plantar's fasciitis--that puts me on the > couch for a while. I've learned to vary my routine--one > exercise one day, a different one another day, and that has > helped a lot.) Anyway, it seems like there must be a new > study out on this subject or something that all the docs are > reading, since I've heard it from 2 different ones in > different practices. > > I'm prepared now to say the next time that one of them sez > this something like, " I appreciate that you have your > studies, but I don't think you should ever doubt human > capacity for change, even if I'm the only person you meet > this year who is successful. " > > I thought I'd put this out there and see if any of you feel > like sharing stories of your own change at whatever stage of > life you are. Heck, I'm 56 years old, and I have no doubt I > can be successful at WW and/or getting healthier in general > if I put my mind to it. > > What do you think? > > Dana > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 Hi, Dana: This absolutely infuriates me. I can't believe physicans would do say that to their patients. Let's face it...it's their JOB to tell us to improve our health. How can they say that it can't be done?! Bah! I don't know about a new study floating around, but I'm inclined to think maybe you just found two bad apples. I know that my doctor is so tickled with my progress that he held off on putting me on blood pressure medicine. This was in March (when I still weighed in the 280's), and he was so convinced my change was genuine, that he told me to make an appointment for SEPTEMBER. I'm at 255.5 right now, and I can't wait to go in there, and show off my accomplishments. (By the way, I've since checked my blood pressure on those self- monitoring machines, and it's now 115/70. I ROCK!! Again, I'm sorry this happened to you. I'm glad that you're strong enough to resist their negative comments. Unfortunately, I'm sure there are others who aren't as strong-willed. All my best, 297/255.5/150 > Greetings, all-- > > I have a question. On two different occasions recently, when I've mentioned > that I started WW or started working out, I've been told by two different > doctors that people generally do not change; that we have our habits and > they are what we always revert to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 Woo ! You DO rock! Weight loss is great. Looking better sure lifts the spirits. Reaching accomplishments makes one proud. But better health is TRULY what it's all about! Don't you feel powerful taking control of your health? It may sound corny, but I'm doggone PROUD of you! > Re: ch-ch-ch-changes > > > Hi, Dana: > > This absolutely infuriates me. I can't believe physicans would do > say that to their patients. Let's face it...it's their JOB to tell > us to improve our health. How can they say that it can't be done?! > Bah! > > I don't know about a new study floating around, but I'm inclined to > think maybe you just found two bad apples. I know that my doctor is > so tickled with my progress that he held off on putting me on blood > pressure medicine. This was in March (when I still weighed in the > 280's), and he was so convinced my change was genuine, that he told > me to make an appointment for SEPTEMBER. I'm at 255.5 right now, and > I can't wait to go in there, and show off my accomplishments. (By > the way, I've since checked my blood pressure on those self- > monitoring machines, and it's now 115/70. I ROCK!! > > Again, I'm sorry this happened to you. I'm glad that you're strong > enough to resist their negative comments. Unfortunately, I'm sure > there are others who aren't as strong-willed. > > All my best, > > > 297/255.5/150 > > > > > Greetings, all-- > > > > I have a question. On two different occasions recently, when I've > mentioned > > that I started WW or started working out, I've been told by two > different > > doctors that people generally do not change; that we have our > habits and > > they are what we always revert to. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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