Guest guest Posted September 13, 2001 Report Share Posted September 13, 2001 << My son and future son in law are both talking about enlisting if we go to war, this terrifies me, but at the same time makes me proud >> Annie~ My DH is an active duty recruiter with the Air National Guard and he was saying the day of the disaster four young men called and asked if they could sign up NOW! I think its just awesome that people are 'rising to the occasion' and wanting to do what they can! A local radio station set up a collection point about 25 miles from home, in a Marriott parking lot to collect money for the Amercian Red Cross, i drove over to contribute and was completely awestruck at the number of people giving, writing checks, emptying out their car ashtrays all to help...to do what we can for the people touched personally in NYC, Washington and PA. Even the radio personnel that were there were brought to tears several times over the giving, the outpouring love of the people of Western NY...as i'm sure it is every where! Sherry in NY (who still is trying to deal with the 'real-ness' of this whole thing!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2001 Report Share Posted September 13, 2001 How my life will change? I read Terry's posting in regards to this about a half hour ago....got up away from the computer and went to my therapy; cooking/baking! Two different sauces (one with ground hamburger for the kids, one with hot italian sausage in it for DH) simmering on the stove now! While away from the keyboard i thought about this very question....along with thinking back on my life since this happened... I've realized i've been going about my business in a fog...driving and grocery/walmart shopping, i've been doing those things....but its almost like i'm not really THERE...if that makes any sense....my mind is constantly on whats going on 400+ miles away! I've thought about my life here at home the last few days, when i'm by myself and when i'm with DH and the kids....today was the first time since this happened (minus a few hours the day the terror shook us) that i've been by myself....the kids got on the bus, DH was off to work and i turned the news on....i bawled like a baby watching the news, went to give to the Red Cross and cried again....its realllllly hit me. The family members holding up pictures of lived ones; some even recollecting a phone call from the airplane from their loved one...i tried to feel their hurt...how horrible. As for life and how it might change for me...i do KNOW this....my family is sooo VERY precious to me! How it may change; i do KNOW this....i will hug and appreciate my DH and children all the more....for we truly don't know what tomorrow (for that matter, what the next minute) may hold and i KNOW this....i don't want to have one regret, NOT ONE, when this earthly life is o'er! May God bless and comfort all those who grieve here in NY and abroad. Sherry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2001 Report Share Posted September 13, 2001 Terry, I am suffering, like many others from the stress 'wantings' to eat.........the urges are overwhelming........I have been glued to the TV now for 2 days, I am getting nothing done at all, I can't think about anything else. I am eerily aware of the lack of airplane noises in the city........I have always complained to my hubby that I don't like planes going over the house ..........Sioux City is the site of the flight 232 crash where the commercial airliner lost all hydraulics and crash landed here, we are not far from Sioux Gateway airport..........but no plane sounds now, seem even more scarry to me.........Tues. afternoon amoungst the silence in the air, we heard our fighter jets take off........I was filled with terror, what was happening...........???? We later " assumed " that they perhaps were going toward Omaha to secure air space as the president was being taken there to shelter........then we heard what we assumed was a large commercial plane.......coming in.......the seconds seemed like hours.......wondering what was happening.........hoping they were just getting planes down out of the air, but still afraid....companies were closing, announcing the next shifts were to not report in.......the mall was closed immediately...... All I have wanted to do is eat for comfort......Tuesday I grazed but kept it low carb.........yesterday I cheated, because.......for the most part, I am in despirate need of groceries......not all day, but enough to ruin the progress I have made.......today I need to go to the grocery store, but I am afraid that I will buy things I shouldn't......I am sitting here trying to psych myself up, pep talk, planning exactly what I need to get and where it is in the store, how I will avoid what I have to walk past to get there (especially the bakery)......as a side note, I have gotten out some crocheting, and I am doing it feverishly to keep myself busy as I am finding it hard to do anything else constructive.........I am a terrible stress/boredom eater.........and the " comfort " I get from initial carb overload, the lethargic feeling, and being able to drug myself just sleep deeply is overwhelming sometimes. Even when I know it will make me feel terrible the next day. I know that things will calm down, this will pass, and life will become more " normal " , but never the same again, but right now, it seems like life is standing still. My son and future son in law are both talking about enlisting if we go to war, this terrifies me, but at the same time makes me proud. My husband, who used to work for the military talks about what is " probably " going on, why we are being told this and that, and it is frightening.......yet I know my fear in so small compared to that of those still waiting to hear the fate of those unaccounted for......the husbands and wives who are widowers now, the children who are orphans......even the people who have to get on planes first here shortly.........knowing this may not have been " all " of what was planned to happen........ All the little problems we had Monday seem so unimportant now......in many ways, I hope I never forget this feeling and remember. Annie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2001 Report Share Posted September 13, 2001 I don't know that I will change much about my life because of this tragedy, other than perhaps to hug my husband and son a little more often. I live in Canada in a part of the country where the 'big city' is not very big at all. I live in small town in a neighbourhood where I don't have to worry about locking my doors. I like to trust individuals until they prove themselves untrustworthy. I don't want to change this part of my life. I don't want to live my life fearfully or full of cynacism. I love Canada for the peace and overall perception of non-violence. Guns and blood and death are not a part of my reality. I am far enough removed from the targets that perhaps I will be able to cling to my innocence and keep telling myself that 'it could never happen to me'. I am deeply saddened at the senseless tragedy. At the numbers of innocent people and rescuers who have died. I am sad for the people of the US that are now feeling under attack from an enemy that is not readily apparent. I cried last night when seeing the images of people holding up pictures of their missing loved ones that left for work on Tuesday and haven't made it home. It is hard to even imagine the pain they must be going through as the hopes they cling to fade into resignation. Most of all these last few days I've been worrying. I worry about the consequences of these actions and how they will change the world forever. I worry about war. I've been hearing reports lately about people that are obviously of mid-eastern descent being hassled, mosques being vandalized. I hope that the individuals responsible for this are found and that they are dealt with quickly. I hope that innocent civilians of any nation do not get caught in the cross-fire and that violence like that in the middle east or Ireland does not become a normal part of North American life. {{{hugs}}} Kirstie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2001 Report Share Posted September 13, 2001 Terry, I guess I'm still not thinking long term yet but the things that have changed for me is that I pray even harder than thank GOD even more for my family and loved ones. I fear for the future of my children even more. I am proud of our country for coming together. It's made me finally sign up to give blood, I've been thinking about it but haven't done it. I called and got put on the list so it's made me more active you could say. I also sent a money donation to the red cross it's not much but anything helps. Of course money is tight for us but at least we have food, clothes, shelter and my loved ones which many of these people do not have so I will get by. As far as the food front I am not going to let these horrible people throw me off my WOE, they have taken so many lives from us and so much more but my eating is one thing I can control and they won't take that away from me. I wish there was more I could do to help all of those people who are suffering I am sending all the prayers I can to them and asking GOD to give though who are trapped the extra strength they need to last until they can be found. I also thank GOD for all those volunteers who are there now digging and helping to find people, those who are taking the workers food and water and much more. We will get through this and we will stick together and be strong! -- Sue Huls 214/176.25/175 (mini goal) 3/9/01 Independent Party Consultant http://www.1800partyconsultant.com/50407/ all your party supply needs in one place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2001 Report Share Posted September 13, 2001 I hear what you are saying Annie and all I can say to you and all our list members is that we CANNOT give into this, we are AmeriCANS we are strong and we WILL survive this!!!! We need to keep control of our lives, be that our eating, emotions and actions..... something as small as staying with plan is the tool to empowerment that we NEED at this time...... dont LET these bas**rds that did this win....... DON'T give in....... any of us......... lets stick together and encourage each other to do what we know we are capable of........ and everyone PLEASE....... take breaks from all of this to return to your normally scheduled programming, be it cleaning, cooking, taking the kids somewhere........ light those candles but keep the home fires burning! Love and support to all my friends here! ----- Original Message ----- From: Annie Terry,I am suffering, like many others from the stress 'wantings' to eat.........the urges are overwhelming........I have been glued to the TV now for 2 days, I am getting nothing done at all, I can't think about anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2001 Report Share Posted September 13, 2001 I echo Kirstie's sentiments. I feel deeply for those affected by Tuesday's events and the stories are heart breaking, but it doesn't really change my daily life. Perhaps it was because I did not have access to a TV until 10:00 Tuesday night and then I was so tired that I only watched about an hour. Then it was back to work on Wednesday with our college president encouraging us to not stop living our lives fully as that would give the terrorists some measure of victory. It all seems far removed for me. I can't see anything happening like that in the peaceful little town that I live in. The extent of known terrorist threats to this town so far was that someone once threatened to hide atop a building during the Tulip Festival and throw bricks at people. I suppose next year at Tulip Time we could find Pella taking more security measures, but even on the biggest day of the event, there are less than 50,000 people in town. If tragedy were to strike here, my reality is that a kid could go into a school and start shooting (hopefully not the kind financial aid officer who is there to help him/her) not a terrorist attack. I think there are a lot of things to be afraid of in today's world, guns, drugs, disease, and high school shootings are the most likely causes of unexpected tragedy here in Pella, Iowa where we don't allow these things. :-) I guess the changes I foresee are those to the travel industry. Next month I fly to Chicago for a conference and I wonder what new procedures will be in place at that time and if I will still save time by flying. The mileage reimbursement cost and the cost of flying were comparable and I debated driving the 6 hours to the conference. I figured it was a 45 minute drive each way to the airport, an hour flight, getting there an hour before takeoff, etc., so it would save about two hours. Now who knows how early we will have to go before a flight is scheduled to depart? Maybe I am naive in my expectations of how my life will change, maybe I am just not letting terrorism change it, because if they want to get me, I doubt there is anything I can do to prevent it. I do hope that we can somehow deal with the people who did this without starting a war. I think that would result in too many innocent lives abroad being lost in addition to those of US citizens. Mostly, I hope that those responsible for finding the terrorists don't have tunnel vision in their pursuit of OBL that they miss evidence that he is not the responsible party. While the evidence does seem to be mounting, I still recall the initial reports of international terrorism in Oklahoma City. Though, again, the evidence does seem to be mounting. Jean 190/145.5/13512/7/98 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2001 Report Share Posted September 13, 2001 I feel dreadful for all the people on the planes and the terror they had to go thru as well as the grief their familys are experiencing i feel so badly for all the rescue workers who lost their lives and those who have to continue knowing that their friends and co workers are burried in the rubble and they cant get to them as well as the dreadful destruction to property and lives.. and the feeling that the USA is not so invincible as we thought i am warmed by the feelings of community now coming out from all people from all walks of life i have heard from friends in europe who are just as concerned as we are and that touches my heart.. i will keep in my mind that life is fragile and that we should make the most of every friendship and relationship and every day that we do get to have on this earth.. .. catherine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2001 Report Share Posted September 24, 2001 I know this message is old now...but I wanted to give it a lot of thought and consideration as to exactly how I answered it...and after writing it, I decided to post it to my own group-hugs group. I don't think I've ever really taken the time to give my viewpoints on life and meanings thereof; further I doubt if too many people really would have cared. But now if a time of reflection, a time of healing and recovery. My message is ready now. First, Terry's original post (note to group-hugs members: WOE means Way Of Eating) How will this change my life >Good morning friends, >In light of all the recent events in our country, I know that all of us on this list, >and many others around the world, have had the opportunity to count our >blessings and evaluate our lives. I'm just curious about how this has caused >us to think about our lives. I'm hoping that each of you will huddle in and discuss >with us how this situation has caused you to think, and especially, what things >will you change about YOUR life as a result of this terrible tragedy? >Since it's been so quiet on the List, maybe this will get us talking again, until we >feel that we can get back to our regular discussions about our WOE, which truly >at this point seems to be a small thing in the big picture of life. >But, there is power in numbers, and I think that the sheer number of caring people >on this list represents the potential for powerful healing, and I think talking about >things make them better, don't you? >Terry I've thought about this many times. Many times before the tragedy, many times since. If you do not wish to hear a heavy spiritual talk, you best leave now, while it is still possible. Good. If you have continued reading to this point, I must assume you want to hear what I have to say. I won't go into a lot of detail (although if someone wants a more detailed discussion, I will be happy to write privately, just write back to me). December 22, 1987, a date which I consider to have been my " low " point, I had an encounter with a power beyond my comprehension. This encounter saved my life, that is absolutely certain. One thing I learned from the experience that I have a " mission " to fufill, and that it would be aparent to me as I was ready to fufill it. Time has gone on, and in the almost 14 years since that date, much has been revealed to me. I do not fear death, not at all. Leaving this life will be the end of the beginning, as I step into a new dimension. They are waiting for me in the next world, but I must continue to do my best on earth for as long as possible. My work can only be done by a mortal person. Along with the work have come tools to do it well. For a long time I've noticed that I've been prettty " lucky " , not in the sense of getting rich picking lottery numbers, etc...but as a survivor of things that have killed others. It was the event in December 1987 that showed me that it was not just " luck " , but that I have a " guardian angel " watching over me. In 1999 I had an astrological reading done. Let me say here that I do not believe for a minute that the stars and planets control our lives. However, I sense that there is a rythym, a flow, a pattern to our universe that hasn't been completely understood. Most religions will poo-poo the idea that the stars and planets are in any way involved with us...most of the people who feel they are subscribe to Darwin or some other theory of our origins. I think that they are " indicators " , but also easy to mi000 I feel that there is one God who created us, all of us. God also created the heavens and the earth. We cannot hope to ever understand God completely, any more than we will ever understand the whole brain. It just seems to make logical sense that we, ourselves, are connected to the universe in ways that only God completely understands. Astrology seems to have a good start on it, but reading it is like trying to get an exact figure from a slide rule, actually a slide rule with 36 slides. My chart says that I have Jupiter in the first house. This indicates a very strong protection factor. I sincerely believe this is a heavenly indication that my guardian angel was present from the day I was born (but didn't have all that much to do at first). I have survived many things in my lifetime which could have killed me; in fact have killed others. The fact that I'm still here is proof to me that I can still make a difference in this world, and I must do this. When I leave this world, I will do so knowing I've done the best I can do. The recent tragedies have made it all the more clear to me that we cannot and should not wait " another day " to help. We cannot control the actions of another person. This may sound pretty crass, but that clip of the second plane hitting the WTC keeps running through my mind. I can only imagine, in what must have taken less than a second, one minute you're alive, in a meeting, or at your desk, just another day at work...one second later, vaporized. This has been a terrible tragedy for the country and the world...thousands of lives shattered, thousands of dreams unfufilled, and a world that will never be the same. It is particularly bad in the way that these people died. Yet, let's say that four people were commuting to their job on the 90th floor of the WTC, but were hit by a drunk driver and killed before they even made it there. Would that have been any easier or harder on their families, friends and loved ones? This could be the last E-mail message I will ever write. The fact that I've been waking up in the morning and going to sleep at night for almost 42 years is no garuntee that I'll be able to do it again tomorrow. The work I do for a living is inherently dangerous. Of course there is safety protections, and the most important safety device is the one between my ears. But, I may not even make it to work tomorrow. As I said before, I am not afraid of death. Had I been in the WTC, the Pentagon, or one of the ill-fated planes, I know that at this time I would be in a better place, and doing a project that is still sealed, and will remain so until I arrive. In a way, I'm sort of looking forward to a change of scenery. I just hope the 6,000 or so people that perished had found the same comfort. T. Dobiesz " Huggy Bear " As long as I'm here therefore, I will do my best to help mankind, and not worry about things I have no control over. This is the mission that God has given me, and I have been given all the tools I need to do it. I will do it. 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Guest guest Posted September 24, 2001 Report Share Posted September 24, 2001 Huggy, it was worth the wait! How will this change my life>Good morning friends,>In light of all the recent events in our country, I know that all of us onthis list,>and many others around the world, have had the opportunity to count our>blessings and evaluate our lives. I'm just curious about how this hascaused>us to think about our lives. I'm hoping that each of you will huddle inand discuss>with us how this situation has caused you to think, and especially, whatthings>will you change about YOUR life as a result of this terrible tragedy?>Since it's been so quiet on the List, maybe this will get us talking again,until we>feel that we can get back to our regular discussions about our WOE, whichtruly>at this point seems to be a small thing in the big picture of life.>But, there is power in numbers, and I think that the sheer number of caringpeople>on this list represents the potential for powerful healing, and I thinktalking about>things make them better, don't you?>TerryI've thought about this many times. Many times before the tragedy, manytimes since. If you do not wish to hear a heavy spiritual talk, you bestleave now, while it is still possible.Good. If you have continued reading to this point, I must assume you wantto hear what I have to say.I won't go into a lot of detail (although if someone wants a more detaileddiscussion, I will be happy to write privately, just write back to me).December 22, 1987, a date which I consider to have been my "low" point, Ihad an encounter with a power beyond my comprehension. This encounter savedmy life, that is absolutely certain. One thing I learned from theexperience that I have a "mission" to fufill, and that it would be aparentto me as I was ready to fufill it.Time has gone on, and in the almost 14 years since that date, much has beenrevealed to me. I do not fear death, not at all. Leaving this life will bethe end of the beginning, as I step into a new dimension. They are waitingfor me in the next world, but I must continueto do my best on earth for as long as possible. My work can only be done bya mortal person.Along with the work have come tools to do it well. For a long time I'venoticed that I've been prettty "lucky", not in the sense of getting richpicking lottery numbers, etc...but as a survivor of things that have killedothers. It was the event in December 1987 that showed me that it was notjust "luck", but that I have a "guardian angel" watching over me.In 1999 I had an astrological reading done. Let me say here that I do notbelieve for a minute that the stars and planets control our lives. However,I sense that there is a rythym, a flow, a pattern to our universe thathasn't been completely understood. Most religions will poo-poo the ideathat the stars and planets are in any way involved with us...most of thepeople who feel they are subscribe to Darwin or some other theory of ourorigins. I think that they are "indicators", but also easy to mi000I feel that there is one God who created us, all of us. God also createdthe heavens and the earth. We cannot hope to ever understand Godcompletely, any more than we will ever understand the whole brain. It justseems to make logical sense that we, ourselves, are connected to theuniverse in ways that only God completely understands. Astrology seems tohave a good start on it, but reading it is like trying to get an exactfigure from a slide rule, actually a slide rule with 36 slides.My chart says that I have Jupiter in the first house. This indicates a verystrong protection factor. I sincerely believe this is a heavenly indicationthat my guardian angel was present from the day I was born (but didn't haveall that much to do at first).I have survived many things in my lifetime which could have killed me; infact have killed others. The fact that I'm still here is proof to me that Ican still make a difference in this world, and I must do this. When I leavethis world, I will do so knowing I've done the best I can do.The recent tragedies have made it all the more clear to me that we cannotand should not wait "another day" to help. We cannot control the actions ofanother person. This may sound pretty crass, but that clip of the secondplane hitting the WTC keeps running through my mind. I can only imagine, inwhat must have taken less than a second, one minute you're alive, in ameeting, or at your desk, just another day at work...one second later,vaporized.This has been a terrible tragedy for the country and the world...thousandsof lives shattered, thousands of dreams unfufilled, and a world that willnever be the same. It is particularly bad in the way that these peopledied. Yet, let's say that four people were commuting to their job on the90th floor of the WTC, but were hit by a drunk driver and killed before theyeven made it there. Would that have been any easier or harder on theirfamilies, friends and loved ones?This could be the last E-mail message I will ever write. The fact that I'vebeen waking up in the morning and going to sleep at night for almost 42years is no garuntee that I'll be able to do it again tomorrow.The work I do for a living is inherently dangerous. Of course there issafety protections, and the most important safety device is the one betweenmy ears. But, I may not even make it to work tomorrow.As I said before, I am not afraid of death. Had I been in the WTC, thePentagon, or one of the ill-fated planes, I know that at this time I wouldbe in a better place, and doing a project that is still sealed, and willremain so until I arrive.In a way, I'm sort of looking forward to a change of scenery. I just hopethe 6,000 or so people that perished had found the same comfort. T. Dobiesz "Huggy Bear"As long as I'm here therefore, I will do my best to help mankind, and notworry about things I have no control over. This is the mission that God hasgiven me, and I havebeen given all the tools I need to do it. I will do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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