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Valarie,

Do you mean Fischer or Moller? I saw posts from Fischer on

Dec 31st.

Take care,

Pam

where is ?

> Did I miss something about going on a trip? He hasn't posted in

> a while.

> Hugs, Valarie

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Hi all,

Moller is okay, but typing is difficult for him. I spoke to him on the

phone several days ago when he was rested and he sounded good.

Terri may not be online these days but I speak to her at least weekly and

again yesterday. Even with her fancy lift, she strained a muscle getting

off the john :o) where she could not use the sling.

They are hanging in there.

Take care, Bill

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> Valarie,

>

> Do you mean Fischer or Moller? I saw posts from Fischer on

> Dec 31st.

>

> Take care,

> Pam

> where is ?

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> > Did I miss something about going on a trip? He hasn't posted in

> > a while.

> > Hugs, Valarie

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Bill,

" They are hanging in there " -- is that a pun? -- given the Moller's

new lift system?

LOL :-)

Carol & Rob

>

> > Valarie,

> >

> > Do you mean Fischer or Moller? I saw posts from

Fischer on

> > Dec 31st.

> >

> > Take care,

> > Pam

> > where is ?

> >

> > > Did I miss something about going on a trip? He hasn't

posted in

> > > a while.

> > > Hugs, Valarie

> >

> > If you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may

> > unsubscribe by sending a blank email to

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> > shydrager-unsubscribe@y...

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Carol,

Both puns fully intended :o) We have to have some fun here :o) Too much

gloom and doom here lately. Hey Anne and are you still driving on

the wrong side of the road downunder???? Carol Lee where are you?

I know where that dirty old lady is, but her emails are too dirty for

the list - she sends them off list now. Hey how is Dan and he know

about your Geology professor? Hey, I'm picking on everyone today.

Take care, Bill

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cblanger49 wrote:

> Bill,

>

> " They are hanging in there " -- is that a pun? -- given the Moller's

> new lift system?

>

> LOL :-)

>

> Carol & Rob

>

>

> > Hi all,

> >

> > Moller is okay, but typing is difficult for him. I spoke to

> him on the

> > phone several days ago when he was rested and he sounded good.

> >

> > Terri may not be online these days but I speak to her at least

> weekly and

> > again yesterday. Even with her fancy lift, she strained a muscle

> getting

> > off the john :o) where she could not use the sling.

> >

> > They are hanging in there.

> >

> > Take care, Bill

> >

> > ======================================================

> >

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Sorry to get everyone confused but =jbf= usually posts everyday and

some times several a day, so I was concerned about him. I also

emailed to his private email about a computer issue and he has not

replied as of yet. Sorry for the confusion here.

Hugs,

Valarie

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Greetings !

> This is still here ...

As the gals like to say in line to use the bathroom ... You can never have

too many s!

> So watch what you say about me!!!

He's armed, has a computer, and KNOWS how to use it! ;-)

Regards,

=jbf=

B. Fisher

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Greetings Valarie!

You noted:

> Sorry to get everyone confused ...

As if this were a NEW state for us? I think not!

> ... but =jbf= usually posts everyday and sometimes

> several a day, so I was concerned about him.

I work from my home, so staying connected and checking on messages is fairly

easy for me. But for the week around Christmas I had vacation and family at

my home. This is wonderful, until you realize that I become overwhelmed by

all the confusion around me. I suffer from the OPCA form of this .. and

making sense of lots of activity that occurs around me - visual or

auditory - is becoming more and more difficult. It makes me quite irritable

and tired.

It was a wonderful time with family, but there is a definite price to be

paid. I collapse for a few days.

> I also emailed to his private email about a computer

> issue and he has not replied as of yet.

I will try to do so, but it may be a few days before I catch up with

everything.

Regards,

=jbf=

B. Fisher

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hello it me again,i haven,t been saying to much lately because i just don,t know what to do...i just want to ask a question..i went to my dr. thursday the 27..to get the result on my mri..will she told me that everything look great she said now that she doesn,t even think that i have msa..well that would be great ,but they have told me for two years that i had this,and i have been out of work,lost my licensise have been lining house to hopuse,because i can,t stay any where to long. well now i am told that the mri came back great,well what do i do now..i feel like that i was told that because they don,t know what to look for..now they are saying that it could just be the trebmer.well am i crazy then having shaking,memory lost,sometimes i can,t even hold my bladder,walk like i drunk,i don,t like going out to eat because i feel i am being stare at due to my shaking,i am losing everythings even money due to can,t remember what i did from one day to next.the eye dr.told me that i am legally blind due to my neroligist problems.and the last time that i went to my dr. not this time but time before she wanted to start sendind me to blind school to get me ready for when i go blind .and then when i went this time she acted like that she didn,t remember none of this.all she said was my memorg pboblems couyld be due to too much medicine,and plus being depress...well am i not normal when a dr. keeps telling you different things and changeing it like i am crazy and everything wouldn,t anyone be depress..i have try everything but of couse with me being on medicaid my dr. knows that i can,t get a second opinion..are they just giving up on me?or what am i so crazy now that they know that they can tell me anything and i just have to except it...and they wonder why i am in denial all the time..they know i can,t hardly see so it is hard for me to even find someone to help..plus my mind just won,t let me any more.i have even just try to put myself away thinking that i am just crazy,but i can,t even seem to do that right..so please if any of ya know what i can do please let me know,and i promise i will leave everyone alone if there is just nothing else...thank you very much..ya are the only ones that i can even talk to about this..i am still looking for someone here in fla.that knows anything about any of this but i am still having no luck..i am living on 522 a month,and all that i am told is go to another dr.but i can,t find one that will even talk to me without money..my no is 1- i am sorry if this is long or out of line but i am just getting just so frustrated that i don,t know if i am coming are going anymore..thank you

Werre wrote: Carol,Both puns fully intended :o) We have to have some fun here :o) Too muchgloom and doom here lately. Hey Anne and are you still driving onthe wrong side of the road downunder???? Carol Lee where are you?I know where that dirty old lady is, but her emails are too dirty forthe list - she sends them off list now. Hey how is Dan and he knowabout your Geology professor? Hey, I'm picking on everyone today.Take care, Bill===================================================cblanger49 wrote:> Bill,>> "They are hanging in there" -- is that a pun? -- given the Moller's> new lift system?>> LOL :-)>> Carol & Rob>> > > Hi all,> >> > Moller is okay, but typing is difficult for him. I spoke to> him on the> > phone several days ago when he was rested and he sounded good.> >> > Terri may not be online these days but I speak to her at least> weekly and> > again yesterday. Even with her fancy lift, she strained a muscle> getting > > off the john :o) where she could not use the sling.> >> > They are hanging in there.> >> > Take care, Bill> >> > ======================================================> >If you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may unsubscribe by sending a blank email to shydrager-unsubscribe

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Greetings back to you too, =jbf-=

You just answered one of my BIG questions, my husband and I cooked

dinner for 11 (he did the most, I just cannot anymore) but I did NOT

sleep well for 5 days after. So this is the question that I was

pondering asking to the group, you answered and thank you. I told my

son and d-i-l when they were the first to arrive that I as EXHAUSTED

then. I made it too, and enjoyed all being here BUT I paid for it

also. Also, many on here have talked about slurring speech and BOTH

of my children have told me I do this, BUT they thought it was I was

taking too many meds. I only take ultram as I stated previously and I

don't hear myself slurring at all. Do we not hear ourselves slurring?

Both of these issues concern me. Thanks for any help here.

Hugs,

Valarie

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Greetings !

What can I say? We just like to swing into action and hang around for a

bit. Even if we don't say a lot, the group will find that we're " ny On

The Spot " . ;-)

=jbf=

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Yes we have some s and a couple of Bills too :o) I get lots of Medicare

bills.

take care, Bill

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" B. Fisher " wrote:

> Greetings !

>

> What can I say? We just like to swing into action and hang around for a

> bit. Even if we don't say a lot, the group will find that we're " ny On

> The Spot " . ;-)

>

> =jbf=

>

> If you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may

> unsubscribe by sending a blank email to

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> shydrager-unsubscribe

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-,

Yes we have some s and a couple of Bills too :o) I get lots of Medicare

bills.

take care, Bill

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" B. Fisher " wrote:

> Greetings !

>

> What can I say? We just like to swing into action and hang around for a

> bit. Even if we don't say a lot, the group will find that we're " ny On

> The Spot " . ;-)

>

> =jbf=

>

> If you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may

> unsubscribe by sending a blank email to

>

> shydrager-unsubscribe

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Yes we have some s and a couple of Bills too :o) I get lots of Medicare

bills.

take care, Bill

================

" B. Fisher " wrote:

> Greetings !

>

> What can I say? We just like to swing into action and hang around for a

> bit. Even if we don't say a lot, the group will find that we're " ny On

> The Spot " . ;-)

>

> =jbf=

>

> If you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may

> unsubscribe by sending a blank email to

>

> shydrager-unsubscribe

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Greetings Valarie!

Glad to hear your holiday gathering went so well, and sorry it was so

draining. This appears to be part of the disorder. Most people comment

about this. It also appears to be more of an issue with the cerebellar form

(OPCA).

You noted:

> Also, many on here have talked about slurring speech

> and BOTH of my children have told me I do this, BUT

> they thought it was I was taking too many meds. I only

> take ultram as I stated previously ...

Medication can do this, but with just Ultram, I doubt that is the case.

> ... and I don't hear myself slurring at all. Do we

> not hear ourselves slurring?

Depends. IF you have training in speech you may notice it. If you speak

for a living (answering phones, etc), you may notice it. Remember that if

things change gradually we tend not to notice the change. This is true for

any body change.

I notice the slurring. But I have a Speech & Theatre background (lots of

stage work in school .. and college classes). I also do customer support.

I spend a lot of time talking. That exercise helps keep my speech clear.

But even I have problems with slurring. I notice it, especially when tired

or stressed.

In this instance your children probably are a better judge of speech issues

than you are. But it is not something to worry about. You may want to see

a speech therapist (have your doctor write a prescription). Or find a book

in the library on speech (looking for vocal exercises .. tongue twisters).

Anything that forces you to speak and work on enunciation.

Regards,

=jbf=

B. Fisher

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Hi ,

I too talk a lot with my 2 day a week job, switchboard operator, for

Target. I believe when my children have commented on my slurring it

was late in the day so it may just be that I was tired. I saw my

neuro yesterday and he wants me and husband to decide where we want

to go......St. Louis, Nashville, or Houston. They have tried many

times to get thru to Nashville as that's where we want to go but got

no connection with them. So this am I will get on the phone for

Nashville. He doesn't think I have MSA but not experienced with it

either. I just read on a previous post about MUCH weakness when sick,

I do that, I slid off the bed onto the floor when sick and it took me

FOREVER to get up. Also, I asked him about the alien limb with MSA as

my left hand and arm is atrophying, but he said usually the hand or

arms will do things that the body is unable to stop like jerking and

pointing and such (mine doesn't do that). Do many of you have an

alien limb? can you give me a site to go read about OPCA? Many

thanks for your post back to me.

Hugs,

Valarie

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Dear Valarie: My mother's symptoms, years ago, began with her right side--she was dragging it with her as though she had no control over it. Her husband also noticed that she had lost the natural arm-swinging movement that most people do unconsciously when walking--her right arm did not naturally swing. It is now her right arm that doesn't cooperate and causes her so much pain. She doesn't have uncontrollable movements like jerking or pointing, as your doctor describes; rather, her arm is very weak and sometimes goes rigid. She was diagnosed w/Parkinson's originally, but now some (Houston, California) think she has MSA--though her own doc in Nevada doesn't know what to think. Best, Re: where is ? Hi ,I too talk a lot with my 2 day a week job, switchboard operator, forTarget. I believe when my children have commented on my slurring itwas late in the day so it may just be that I was tired. I saw myneuro yesterday and he wants me and husband to decide where we wantto go......St. Louis, Nashville, or Houston. They have tried manytimes to get thru to Nashville as that's where we want to go but gotno connection with them. So this am I will get on the phone forNashville. He doesn't think I have MSA but not experienced with iteither. I just read on a previous post about MUCH weakness when sick,I do that, I slid off the bed onto the floor when sick and it took meFOREVER to get up. Also, I asked him about the alien limb with MSA asmy left hand and arm is atrophying, but he said usually the hand orarms will do things that the body is unable to stop like jerking andpointing and such (mine doesn't do that). Do many of you have analien limb? can you give me a site to go read about OPCA? Manythanks for your post back to me.Hugs,ValarieIf you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you mayunsubscribe by sending a blank email toshydrager-unsubscribe

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Dear Valarie: My mother's symptoms, years ago, began with her right side--she was dragging it with her as though she had no control over it. Her husband also noticed that she had lost the natural arm-swinging movement that most people do unconsciously when walking--her right arm did not naturally swing. It is now her right arm that doesn't cooperate and causes her so much pain. She doesn't have uncontrollable movements like jerking or pointing, as your doctor describes; rather, her arm is very weak and sometimes goes rigid. She was diagnosed w/Parkinson's originally, but now some (Houston, California) think she has MSA--though her own doc in Nevada doesn't know what to think. Best, Re: where is ? Hi ,I too talk a lot with my 2 day a week job, switchboard operator, forTarget. I believe when my children have commented on my slurring itwas late in the day so it may just be that I was tired. I saw myneuro yesterday and he wants me and husband to decide where we wantto go......St. Louis, Nashville, or Houston. They have tried manytimes to get thru to Nashville as that's where we want to go but gotno connection with them. So this am I will get on the phone forNashville. He doesn't think I have MSA but not experienced with iteither. I just read on a previous post about MUCH weakness when sick,I do that, I slid off the bed onto the floor when sick and it took meFOREVER to get up. Also, I asked him about the alien limb with MSA asmy left hand and arm is atrophying, but he said usually the hand orarms will do things that the body is unable to stop like jerking andpointing and such (mine doesn't do that). Do many of you have analien limb? can you give me a site to go read about OPCA? Manythanks for your post back to me.Hugs,ValarieIf you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you mayunsubscribe by sending a blank email toshydrager-unsubscribe

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Greetings Valarie!

You wondered about alien limb. As your doctor noted, this is when it starts

to do things completely out of your control. It is not a sense that it is

completely different in feeling and perception. That is something that is

not unusual with MSA. But alien limb would indicate another type of

disorder.

Hope that you are able to find a center that will help you identify your

situation and learn to live with it.

You can read more about OPCA and MSA at the following two sites:

http://www.emedicine.com/neuro/topic282.htm

http://www.emedicine.com/neuro/topic671.htm

Hope this helps.

Regards,

=jbf=

B. Fisher

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Hi...

Does anyone know how is doing? Unless I have missed posts, I

don't recall reading ones from her lately. She was just one of the

ones who was having surgery when I was just starting.

I start my nutrition classes this Friday!!!! I have missed the cut-

off, so I only have to do the 8 weeks. I am so excited about finally

getting to another step in this journey.

Patty

Riverside

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Patty, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but I knew

someone would ask sooner than later.

I spoke to weeks ago and she is doing fine. At

this time in her life, she has taken what she felt she

needed from this group and feels like she no longer

needs this group. She said she apologizes because

this might sound rude but she attends a monthly

support group meeting in her area as well as a weekly

meeting. She has other friends she is hanging out and

she is doing a lot more things now since the surgery.

I am not sure if she is still reading as she told me

that she does not spend a lot of time on the computer

anymore because of her knew life now.

I was hurt at first because I know that others are

coming behind us and I feel like we should be here to

help them along just as someone did for us but that is

where life gets a little tricky. We have freedom to

come and go as we please and I can't hold that against

anyone. I miss her because we went through our

process together.

Maybe she will peek in and write to us and let us know

how she is doing.

I think Sandi lives near her and might know how she is

doing.

I hope that answered your question.

Pam Marsh

--- Patty Matheson pattyclark5@...>

wrote:

> Hi...

>

> Does anyone know how is doing? Unless I have

> missed posts, I

> don't recall reading ones from her lately. She was

> just one of the

> ones who was having surgery when I was just

> starting.

> I start my nutrition classes this Friday!!!! I have

> missed the cut-

> off, so I only have to do the 8 weeks. I am so

> excited about finally

> getting to another step in this journey.

>

> Patty

> Riverside

>

>

>

>

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