Guest guest Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 -this topic triggered some thoughts i have: One with my kids: -I never make them clean their plate But if they want " dessert " they have to finish their protein section of dinner which is the focus anyway- on lazy days when i see them wanting to " graze " i have them do some exercise like play a tag game, or jump on the trampoline etc.if they want more food---i do this because they are growing boys and i dont want to deprive them, but if they are truly hungry- they will remember that, and come back for a snack- they can come back get a drink of water then a snack. my kids can have fruits when ever they want, they dont have to ask.. so many friends of mine allow their children to graze all day, or eat these snacks that are yes, yummy but so unhealthy, and its my job as a mom to teach them good eating habits NOW- i see them let their children dictate how much food they want to consume... when my son spent the night with his pal- the mom (my pal) let them eat cereal, then pancakes, sausage, then fruit--whats up with that!!!! i was kinda ticked- but you know i didnt say antying, i dont want my kids feeling guilty about " large meals " from time to time...cuz thats life ya know... i think that kids learn to eat when they are bored, or just saying they are hungry when they are not, and we as a society of granting our kids will feed them - we can feed them but we dont need to give them buffets every meal, or allow they to decide what they will put in their mouth- im hoping subliminially that my boys will learn limits based on how their stomach feels, not their head, or what they see their friends shoving in thier faces... ok-im done with my speech-- sarah castro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 I know how you feel Cecelia! Even though I am diabetic, I used to binge on sugar and carbs, and anything I wanted, just so long as it was bad for me! Now that I have had surgery, the going is a little easier, and I am not so tempted, though I do have to confess that I make some wonderful protein shakes! Just hang in there, I think that the surgery will help you a lot! LaWanda At 01:49 PM 4/29/05, you wrote: >I too work for a population considered diff by >society. I work for a homeless shelter that has a very >large portion of clients that are dual diagnosed >(Substance/mental health) and it is a daily challenge >to have them take the correct meds and not over >medicate. Many of our clients are long term addicts >and to watch them try to refrain from drugs and >alcohol is like looking at a mirror when i am >refraining from a loaf of french bread and butter. The >insane thinking, acting and rationalization is the >same as theirs. If i wanted it bad enough i propbably >would kill for it! Fixing is fixing! I too also have >bouts of depression and am a believer of meds, but >this food thing >...............................................................................\ ..........................it >makes me CRAZY!!!! >Cecilia > > > >--- Uncle Timmy n01un0@...> wrote: > > > Absolutely NOT! I appologize, if my comment was > > misconstrued. > > By " whole 'nuther' story, I simply meant that it was > > off-topic, and > > not germane to why I felt the need to self medicate. > > (It was also > > not relevent to my divorce.) I myself suffer from > > clinical > > depression, and happen to work for a non-profit > > social service > > agency, which (among other things) serves the mental > > health > > community. So please do not presume that I am > > unfamiliar or > > unsympathetic to the very real challenges our fellow > > travellers face > > on a daily basis. > > > > Uncle Timmy -226 > > > > > > > > > Hi Tina, > > > > > > > > > > While I admire your concern for your > > sis-in-law I have to say > > > that > > > > she is the only one that can make this work. We > > can not/should > > > not > > > > be responsible for other people's success or > > failure in any area > > > of > > > > life. That's called being a co-dependent. It's > > weird because > > the > > > > more we try to help, usually the more rebellious > > the person > > > > becomes. Like an addict or alcoholic we can't > > change them and > > >=== message truncated === > > >__________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 Whole nother story means another story, just another way of saying it. LaWanda At 12:58 PM 4/29/05, you wrote: >by say it is a whole nuther store than you are calling bipolar people >nuts, cause i do hope that is wrong... there are many people and some on >these groups that have these problems and my son has them and so does a >few others i know , i believe it is these times and stress of todays world >that some can not handle is the problem but that does not make them nuts, >you need to read up on this subject and not makes judgements cause i for >one resent the fact that you spelt the word that way .. > we all have a right to state something but you need to think about the > people on this site that may have that problem. > >take care > > >shirley > >Uncle Timmy n01un0@...> wrote: >You're telling my story, Chris! While I also have bad genetics >(I've been fat since birth.) I'm also an addict. My drug of choice >is just more accessible, cheaper, and more socially acceptable, but >my brain is wired no differently than a crack addict. I also self- >medicated my way through a bad marriage. (She was/is bipolar, but >as you say, that's a whole " nuther " story!) > >I found a good book on the subject, " Anatomy of a Food Addiction: >The Brain Chemistry of Overeating. " Don't be put off by the title. >It's really easy to read, and not filled with scientific mumbo-jumbo >or psychobabble. > >I've got some bad news, for my fellow addicts. The surgery isn't >going to do anything about " head hunger. " That's a project that >needs to be worked on in addition to the surgery. I'm almost two >years out (06/30) and I still fight my addiction every single day. >Obesity is a very complex disease, and has to be fought on many >fronts. Part of the reason it's so hard, is that unlike drugs and >alcohol, we need food to live. My goal is to retrain myself to see >food as only fuel for my body. > >Uncle Timmy -226 > > > > > > > I have a question for you all. My sis-in-law had the surgery 4 > > weeks > > > ago yesterday. I've try to be very encouraging to her and give >her > > > gentle advice but...sometimes I just want to yell at her! I'm > > worried > > > about her. First of all, she wasn't taking her anti-depressant > > > because they didn't give it to her in the hospital so she >figured > > it > > > was fine. Wrong! Second of all, she was hardly getting any >protein > > at > > > all and not very much water. I got her some Herbalife protein > > drinks > > > that have 15 grams of protein per 6-8 oz and are pretty tasty. > > Third > > > of all, I think she is eating things that might not be the best > > for > > > her. Fourth of all, NOT taking her vitamins. I was gently > > reminding > > > her how much better she was going to feel if she got some more > > > protein in her and more fluids. She jokingly told me I was no >fun > > to > > > call. She knows I mean well but I guess is tired of hearing it. > > I'm > > > worried that she went through this life changing surgery and was > > > really not ready and is really not willing to follow the > > guidelines > > > for a successful WLS. She's not eating her protein first, she is > > > eating more than 3 times a day, and some of her meals consist of > > > strawberries. > > > > > > Anyone have any advice on how I can approach her about this or > > should > > > I just butt out OR am I just being too strict and I shouldn't > > expect > > > her to follow the rules that are in my Richmond binder? > > > > > > Any input would be appreciated! > > > > > > Tina > > > Pre-Op / Richmond > > > Dr. Baggs > > > weigh-in is on Monday!!!! Yikes! > > > 330/297/165 some day > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 , I think you're a smart mommy. I hope your boys turn out well adjusted, food wise (and in all ways too!). > -this topic triggered some thoughts i have: > One with my kids: > -I never make them clean their plate > But if they want " dessert " they have to finish their protein section > of dinner which is the focus anyway- > on lazy days when i see them wanting to " graze " i have them do some > exercise like play a tag game, or jump on the trampoline etc.if they > want more food---i do this because they are growing boys and i dont > want to deprive them, but if they are truly hungry- they will > remember that, and come back for a snack- they can come back get a > drink of water then a snack. > my kids can have fruits when ever they want, they dont have to ask.. > > so many friends of mine allow their children to graze all day, or > eat these snacks that are yes, yummy but so unhealthy, and its my > job as a mom to teach them good eating habits NOW- i see them let > their children dictate how much food they want to consume... > when my son spent the night with his pal- the mom (my pal) let them > eat cereal, then pancakes, sausage, then fruit--whats up with > that!!!! > i was kinda ticked- but you know i didnt say antying, i dont want my > kids feeling guilty about " large meals " from time to time...cuz > thats life ya know... > i think that kids learn to eat when they are bored, or just saying > they are hungry when they are not, and we as a society of granting > our kids will feed them - > we can feed them but we dont need to give them buffets every meal, > or allow they to decide what they will put in their mouth- > im hoping subliminially that my boys will learn limits based on how > their stomach feels, not their head, or what they see their friends > shoving in thier faces... > ok-im done with my speech-- > sarah castro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 then read it again because his x wife was bypolar and he though she was nuts and as most people do and that is the last i will say on it people need to think before they write something like that wrote: Fwiw, I didn’t read “nuther” as NUT her……….I read it as an abbreviation of a three syllable word to a two syllable word. From: gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients [mailto:gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients ] On Behalf Of Shirley WeberSent: Friday, April 29, 2005 3:59 PMTo: gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients Subject: Re: Food Addiction by say it is a whole nuther store than you are calling bipolar people nuts, cause i do hope that is wrong... there are many people and some on these groups that have these problems and my son has them and so does a few others i know , i believe it is these times and stress of todays world that some can not handle is the problem but that does not make them nuts, you need to read up on this subject and not makes judgements cause i for one resent the fact that you spelt the word that way .. we all have a right to state something but you need to think about the people on this site that may have that problem. take care shirleyUncle Timmy wrote: You're telling my story, Chris! While I also have bad genetics (I've been fat since birth.) I'm also an addict. My drug of choice is just more accessible, cheaper, and more socially acceptable, but my brain is wired no differently than a crack addict. I also self-medicated my way through a bad marriage. (She was/is bipolar, but as you say, that's a whole "nuther" story!) I found a good book on the subject, "Anatomy of a Food Addiction: The Brain Chemistry of Overeating." Don't be put off by the title. It's really easy to read, and not filled with scientific mumbo-jumbo or psychobabble.I've got some bad news, for my fellow addicts. The surgery isn't going to do anything about "head hunger." That's a project that needs to be worked on in addition to the surgery. I'm almost two years out (06/30) and I still fight my addiction every single day. Obesity is a very complex disease, and has to be fought on many fronts. Part of the reason it's so hard, is that unlike drugs and alcohol, we need food to live. My goal is to retrain myself to see food as only fuel for my body. Uncle Timmy -226 > > I have a question for you all. My sis-in-law had the surgery 4 > weeks > > ago yesterday. I've try to be very encouraging to her and give her > > gentle advice but...sometimes I just want to yell at her! I'm > worried > > about her. First of all, she wasn't taking her anti-depressant > > because they didn't give it to her in the hospital so she figured > it > > was fine. Wrong! Second of all, she was hardly getting any protein > at > > all and not very much water. I got her some Herbalife protein > drinks > > that have 15 grams of protein per 6-8 oz and are pretty tasty. > Third > > of all, I think she is eating things that might not be the best > for > > her. Fourth of all, NOT taking her vitamins. I was gently > reminding > > her how much better she was going to feel if she got some more > > protein in her and more fluids. She jokingly told me I was no fun > to > > call. She knows I mean well but I guess is tired of hearing it. > I'm > > worried that she went through this life changing surgery and was > > really not ready and is really not willing to follow the > guidelines > > for a successful WLS. She's not eating her protein first, she is > > eating more than 3 times a day, and some of her meals consist of > > strawberries. > > > > Anyone have any advice on how I can approach her about this or > should > > I just butt out OR am I just being too strict and I shouldn't > expect > > her to follow the rules that are in my Richmond binder? > > > > Any input would be appreciated!> > > > Tina> > Pre-Op / Richmond> > Dr. Baggs> > weigh-in is on Monday!!!! Yikes!> > 330/297/165 some day> > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 read his statement answer to my question and you will find this is a person who can write a very educated statment and my whole family is from the south and i don't think it was a southern version at all.. he devorces his bypolar wife and that bypolar makes her nuts , everybody to their own opinion and this is mine ,,Robynn VanPatten wrote: Yeah, I think you misread the "nuther". I didn't think he was saying "nut" "her"...but rather, doing the Southern version of "another".Uncle Timmy wrote: Absolutely NOT! I appologize, if my comment was misconstrued. By "whole 'nuther' story, I simply meant that it was off-topic, and not germane to why I felt the need to self medicate. (It was also not relevent to my divorce.) I myself suffer from clinical depression, and happen to work for a non-profit social service agency, which (among other things) serves the mental health community. So please do not presume that I am unfamiliar or unsympathetic to the very real challenges our fellow travellers face on a daily basis.Uncle Timmy -226 > > > I have a question for you all. My sis-in-law had the surgery 4 > > weeks > > > ago yesterday. I've try to be very encouraging to her and give > her > > > gentle advice but...sometimes I just want to yell at her! I'm > > worried > > > about her. First of all, she wasn't taking her anti-depressant > > > because they didn't give it to her in the hospital so she > figured > > it > > > was fine. Wrong! Second of all, she was hardly getting any > protein > > at > > > all and not very much water. I got her some Herbalife protein > > drinks > > > that have 15 grams of protein per 6-8 oz and are pretty tasty. > > Third > > > of all, I think she is eating things that might not be the best > > for > > > her. Fourth of all, NOT taking her vitamins. I was gently > > reminding > > > her how much better she was going to feel if she got some more > > > protein in her and more fluids. She jokingly told me I was no > fun > > to > > > call. She knows I mean well but I guess is tired of hearing it. > > I'm > > > worried that she went through this life changing surgery and was > > > really not ready and is really not willing to follow the > > guidelines > > > for a successful WLS. She's not eating her protein first, she is > > > eating more than 3 times a day, and some of her meals consist of > > > strawberries. > > > > > > Anyone have any advice on how I can approach her about this or > > should > > > I just butt out OR am I just being too strict and I shouldn't > > expect > > > her to follow the rules that are in my Richmond binder? > > > > > > Any input would be appreciated!> > > > > > Tina> > > Pre-Op / Richmond> > > Dr. Baggs> > > weigh-in is on Monday!!!! Yikes!> > > 330/297/165 some day> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 as long as your child is healthy then they should not be made to eat.. my son ate like a bird and the doc said his weight was good and he was healthy so not to worry. it was my mother-in-law that would get upset if he did not eat everything she put on his plate or the 16 oz glass of milk he would not drink . i told her many a mnay times not to give him so much he would not eat it , she just would not listen so i would run and fix his plate and pour his drinks and then there would be not waste.... now my son eats so much it is unbelievable but he is 37 yrs old now and he works out daily so he is still healthy and not over weight and i hope he keeps it up.. take care shirley of fontana socalchris lopez wrote: I've often wished that there was a drug I could take similar to antibuse that would make me ill if I ate the wrong things! It doesn't help that for most of our parents, food was seen as a reward--you were a great man if you could put food on the table and mom almost always dried our tears and then handed us something sweet when we skinned a knee. No wonder it's so hard to break out of using food for comfort! I too have been fat my whole life--I was on prescription diet pills when I was SEVEN years old! can you imagine not only the parent that would think that was all right but the doctor who would prescribe such a thing? The only thing to be grateful about concerning my addiction/self medicating is that it's made me so miserable I vowed to break the cycle when I was pregnant with my now 14 year old daughter. No way was I going to pass my bad habits on to her. Little did I have to worry about--the kid refused to eat till she was four days old! Her doctor said she is a perfect eater--eats when she's hungry, stops when she's full and will not eat just because it's meal time. He said she still knows all the things that the rest of us spend a lifetime and a fortune trying to relearn once society has screwed us up. I've never had her on a schedule either; quite often her dad and I would eat dinner and then a couple of hours later fix hers because she wasn't hungry when we were. I can't tell you the battles I've had with day care, preschool and then grade school with people trying to make her eat! I've had to tell people, I pay for her food and if she doesn't eat it so what? She's perfectly healthy, under no circumstances are you to force her to eat or punish her (i.e., make her sit at the lunch table and miss recess till you finish) for not eating. They don't get it--most of them are overweight too! Chris Uncle Timmy wrote: You're telling my story, Chris! While I also have bad genetics (I've been fat since birth.) I'm also an addict. My drug of choice is just more accessible, cheaper, and more socially acceptable, but my brain is wired no differently than a crack addict. I also self-medicated my way through a bad marriage. (She was/is bipolar, but as you say, that's a whole "nuther" story!) I found a good book on the subject, "Anatomy of a Food Addiction: The Brain Chemistry of Overeating." Don't be put off by the title. It's really easy to read, and not filled with scientific mumbo-jumbo or psychobabble.I've got some bad news, for my fellow addicts. The surgery isn't going to do anything about "head hunger." That's a project that needs to be worked on in addition to the surgery. I'm almost two years out (06/30) and I still fight my addiction every single day. Obesity is a very complex disease, and has to be fought on many fronts. Part of the reason it's so hard, is that unlike drugs and alcohol, we need food to live. My goal is to retrain myself to see food as only fuel for my body. Uncle Timmy -226 > > I have a question for you all. My sis-in-law had the surgery 4 > weeks > > ago yesterday. I've try to be very encouraging to her and give her > > gentle advice but...sometimes I just want to yell at her! I'm > worried > > about her. First of all, she wasn't taking her anti-depressant > > because they didn't give it to her in the hospital so she figured > it > > was fine. Wrong! Second of all, she was hardly getting any protein > at > > all and not very much water. I got her some Herbalife protein > drinks > > that have 15 grams of protein per 6-8 oz and are pretty tasty. > Third > > of all, I think she is eating things that might not be the best > for > > her. Fourth of all, NOT taking her vitamins. I was gently > reminding > > her how much better she was going to feel if she got some more > > protein in her and more fluids. She jokingly told me I was no fun > to > > call. She knows I mean well but I guess is tired of hearing it. > I'm > > worried that she went through this life changing surgery and was > > really not ready and is really not willing to follow the > guidelines > > for a successful WLS. She's not eating her protein first, she is > > eating more than 3 times a day, and some of her meals consist of > > strawberries. > > > > Anyone have any advice on how I can approach her about this or > should > > I just butt out OR am I just being too strict and I shouldn't > expect > > her to follow the rules that are in my Richmond binder? > > > > Any input would be appreciated!> > > > Tina> > Pre-Op / Richmond> > Dr. Baggs> > weigh-in is on Monday!!!! Yikes!> > 330/297/165 some day> > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 maybe somewhere you people missed the fact that his wife was bypolar as he put it and they got devorced , people talk nasty stuff about their X,s so why do you think he is different on that??? i do realize he might not have thought about it before he wrote it that way but we all need to think about our statements or how it might sound to others. i would certainly not want to hurt someones feelings exspecially if they have a problem it can make them feel bad about themselfs and get depressed more than they all ready are... shirleychris lopez wrote: Maybe future use of the of that replacement should be typed as 'nother. wrote: Fwiw, I didn’t read “nuther” as NUT her……….I read it as an abbreviation of a three syllable word to a two syllable word. From: gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients [mailto:gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients ] On Behalf Of Shirley WeberSent: Friday, April 29, 2005 3:59 PMTo: gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients Subject: Re: Food Addiction by say it is a whole nuther store than you are calling bipolar people nuts, cause i do hope that is wrong... there are many people and some on these groups that have these problems and my son has them and so does a few others i know , i believe it is these times and stress of todays world that some can not handle is the problem but that does not make them nuts, you need to read up on this subject and not makes judgements cause i for one resent the fact that you spelt the word that way .. we all have a right to state something but you need to think about the people on this site that may have that problem. take care shirleyUncle Timmy wrote: You're telling my story, Chris! While I also have bad genetics (I've been fat since birth.) I'm also an addict. My drug of choice is just more accessible, cheaper, and more socially acceptable, but my brain is wired no differently than a crack addict. I also self-medicated my way through a bad marriage. (She was/is bipolar, but as you say, that's a whole "nuther" story!) I found a good book on the subject, "Anatomy of a Food Addiction: The Brain Chemistry of Overeating." Don't be put off by the title. It's really easy to read, and not filled with scientific mumbo-jumbo or psychobabble.I've got some bad news, for my fellow addicts. The surgery isn't going to do anything about "head hunger." That's a project that needs to be worked on in addition to the surgery. I'm almost two years out (06/30) and I still fight my addiction every single day. Obesity is a very complex disease, and has to be fought on many fronts. Part of the reason it's so hard, is that unlike drugs and alcohol, we need food to live. My goal is to retrain myself to see food as only fuel for my body. Uncle Timmy -226 > > I have a question for you all. My sis-in-law had the surgery 4 > weeks > > ago yesterday. I've try to be very encouraging to her and give her > > gentle advice but...sometimes I just want to yell at her! I'm > worried > > about her. First of all, she wasn't taking her anti-depressant > > because they didn't give it to her in the hospital so she figured > it > > was fine. Wrong! Second of all, she was hardly getting any protein > at > > all and not very much water. I got her some Herbalife protein > drinks > > that have 15 grams of protein per 6-8 oz and are pretty tasty. > Third > > of all, I think she is eating things that might not be the best > for > > her. Fourth of all, NOT taking her vitamins. I was gently > reminding > > her how much better she was going to feel if she got some more > > protein in her and more fluids. She jokingly told me I was no fun > to > > call. She knows I mean well but I guess is tired of hearing it. > I'm > > worried that she went through this life changing surgery and was > > really not ready and is really not willing to follow the > guidelines > > for a successful WLS. She's not eating her protein first, she is > > eating more than 3 times a day, and some of her meals consist of > > strawberries. > > > > Anyone have any advice on how I can approach her about this or > should > > I just butt out OR am I just being too strict and I shouldn't > expect > > her to follow the rules that are in my Richmond binder? > > > > Any input would be appreciated!> > > > Tina> > Pre-Op / Richmond> > Dr. Baggs> > weigh-in is on Monday!!!! Yikes!> > 330/297/165 some day> > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 i totally agree with you on the drug and food thing they are both hard to break bad habits.. we need the food to live is the only differance but once you get hooked on the bad stuff of foods or drugs it has got to be one of the hardest things to change.. i commend you on working with the homeless.. it takes a special person .. god bless you shirley of fontana socalsnickers_95203@... wrote: I too work for a population considered diff bysociety. I work for a homeless shelter that has a verylarge portion of clients that are dual diagnosed(Substance/mental health) and it is a daily challengeto have them take the correct meds and not overmedicate. Many of our clients are long term addictsand to watch them try to refrain from drugs andalcohol is like looking at a mirror when i amrefraining from a loaf of french bread and butter. Theinsane thinking, acting and rationalization is thesame as theirs. If i wanted it bad enough i propbablywould kill for it! Fixing is fixing! I too also havebouts of depression and am a believer of meds, butthis food thing........................................................................................................itmakes me CRAZY!!!!Cecilia--- Uncle Timmy wrote:> Absolutely NOT! I appologize, if my comment was> misconstrued. > By "whole 'nuther' story, I simply meant that it was> off-topic, and > not germane to why I felt the need to self medicate.> (It was also > not relevent to my divorce.) I myself suffer from> clinical > depression, and happen to work for a non-profit> social service > agency, which (among other things) serves the mental> health > community. So please do not presume that I am> unfamiliar or > unsympathetic to the very real challenges our fellow> travellers face > on a daily basis.> > Uncle Timmy -226 > > > > > > Hi Tina,> > > > > > > > While I admire your concern for your> sis-in-law I have to say > > that > > > she is the only one that can make this work. We> can not/should > > not > > > be responsible for other people's success or> failure in any area > > of > > > life. That's called being a co-dependent. It's> weird because > the > > > more we try to help, usually the more rebellious> the person > > > becomes. Like an addict or alcoholic we can't> change them and > === message truncated ===__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Shirley, I am from the south, and while I agree that 'nother isn't necessarily a southern version of another, it is a slang version of that word. I feel certain that is how it was used, and not to indicate that anyone was nuts. If I had thought that, I would have taken exception since I have a bipolar sister whose having a really difficult time with it right now. LaWanda At 09:12 PM 4/30/05, you wrote: >read his statement answer to my question and you will find this is a >person who can write a very educated statment and my whole family is from >the south and i don't think it was a southern version at all.. he devorces >his bypolar wife and that bypolar makes her nuts , everybody to their own >opinion and this is mine ,, > >Robynn VanPatten robynnsf@...> wrote: >Yeah, I think you misread the " nuther " . I didn't think he was saying > " nut " " her " ...but rather, doing the Southern version of " another " . > >Uncle Timmy n01un0@...> wrote: >Absolutely NOT! I appologize, if my comment was misconstrued. >By " whole 'nuther' story, I simply meant that it was off-topic, and >not germane to why I felt the need to self medicate. (It was also >not relevent to my divorce.) I myself suffer from clinical >depression, and happen to work for a non-profit social service >agency, which (among other things) serves the mental health >community. So please do not presume that I am unfamiliar or >unsympathetic to the very real challenges our fellow travellers face >on a daily basis. > >Uncle Timmy -226 > > > > > > I have a question for you all. My sis-in-law had the surgery 4 > > > weeks > > > > ago yesterday. I've try to be very encouraging to her and give > > her > > > > gentle advice but...sometimes I just want to yell at her! I'm > > > worried > > > > about her. First of all, she wasn't taking her anti-depressant > > > > because they didn't give it to her in the hospital so she > > figured > > > it > > > > was fine. Wrong! Second of all, she was hardly getting any > > protein > > > at > > > > all and not very much water. I got her some Herbalife protein > > > drinks > > > > that have 15 grams of protein per 6-8 oz and are pretty tasty. > > > Third > > > > of all, I think she is eating things that might not be the >best > > > for > > > > her. Fourth of all, NOT taking her vitamins. I was gently > > > reminding > > > > her how much better she was going to feel if she got some more > > > > protein in her and more fluids. She jokingly told me I was no > > fun > > > to > > > > call. She knows I mean well but I guess is tired of hearing >it. > > > I'm > > > > worried that she went through this life changing surgery and >was > > > > really not ready and is really not willing to follow the > > > guidelines > > > > for a successful WLS. She's not eating her protein first, she >is > > > > eating more than 3 times a day, and some of her meals consist >of > > > > strawberries. > > > > > > > > Anyone have any advice on how I can approach her about this or > > > should > > > > I just butt out OR am I just being too strict and I shouldn't > > > expect > > > > her to follow the rules that are in my Richmond binder? > > > > > > > > Any input would be appreciated! > > > > > > > > Tina > > > > Pre-Op / Richmond > > > > Dr. Baggs > > > > weigh-in is on Monday!!!! Yikes! > > > > 330/297/165 some day > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 No I didn't miss it, I just don't think it's connected to what is a slang expression for another. LaWanda At 09:34 PM 4/30/05, you wrote: >maybe somewhere you people missed the fact that his wife was bypolar as he >put it and they got devorced , people talk nasty stuff about their X,s so >why do you think he is different on that??? i do realize he might not have >thought about it before he wrote it that way but we all need to think >about our statements or how it might sound to others. i would certainly >not want to hurt someones feelings exspecially if they have a problem it >can make them feel bad about themselfs and get depressed more than they >all ready are... > >shirley > >chris lopez clopez57@...> wrote: >Maybe future use of the of that replacement should be typed as 'nother. > > lauragary@...> wrote: > >Fwiw, I didn’t read “nuther” as NUT her……….I read it as an abbreviation of >a three syllable word to a two syllable word. > > > > >---------- >From: " urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags " >/>gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients >[mailto:gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients ] On Behalf >Of Shirley Weber >Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 3:59 PM >To: gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients >Subject: Re: Food Addiction > >by say it is a whole nuther store than you are calling bipolar people >nuts, cause i do hope that is wrong... there are many people and some on >these groups that have these problems and my son has them and so does a >few others i know , i believe it is these times and stress of todays world >that some can not handle is the problem but that does not make them nuts, >you need to read up on this subject and not makes judgements cause i for >one resent the fact that you spelt the word that way .. > we all have a right to state something but you need to think about the > people on this site that may have that problem. > >take care > > >shirley > >Uncle Timmy n01un0@...> wrote: >You're telling my story, Chris! While I also have bad genetics >(I've been fat since birth.) I'm also an addict. My drug of choice >is just more accessible, cheaper, and more socially acceptable, but >my brain is wired no differently than a crack addict. I also self- >medicated my way through a bad marriage. (She was/is bipolar, but >as you say, that's a whole " nuther " story!) > >I found a good book on the subject, " Anatomy of a Food Addiction: >The Brain Chemistry of Overeating. " Don't be put off by the title. >It's really easy to read, and not filled with scientific mumbo-jumbo >or psychobabble. > >I've got some bad news, for my fellow addicts. The surgery isn't >going to do anything about " head hunger. " That's a project that >needs to be worked on in addition to the surgery. I'm almost two >years out (06/30) and I still fight my addiction every single day. >Obesity is a very complex disease, and has to be fought on many >fronts. Part of the reason it's so hard, is that unlike drugs and >alcohol, we need food to live. My goal is to retrain myself to see >food as only fuel for my body. > >Uncle Timmy -226 > > > > > > > I have a question for you all. My sis-in-law had the surgery 4 > > weeks > > > ago yesterday. I've try to be very encouraging to her and give >her > > > gentle advice but...sometimes I just want to yell at her! I'm > > worried > > > about her. First of all, she wasn't taking her anti-depressant > > > because they didn't give it to her in the hospital so she >figured > > it > > > was fine. Wrong! Second of all, she was hardly getting any >protein > > at > > > all and not very much water. I got her some Herbalife protein > > drinks > > > that have 15 grams of protein per 6-8 oz and are pretty tasty. > > Third > > > of all, I think she is eating things that might not be the best > > for > > > her. Fourth of all, NOT taking her vitamins. I was gently > > reminding > > > her how much better she was going to feel if she got some more > > > protein in her and more fluids. She jokingly told me I was no >fun > > to > > > call. She knows I mean well but I guess is tired of hearing it. > > I'm > > > worried that she went through this life changing surgery and was > > > really not ready and is really not willing to follow the > > guidelines > > > for a successful WLS. She's not eating her protein first, she is > > > eating more than 3 times a day, and some of her meals consist of > > > strawberries. > > > > > > Anyone have any advice on how I can approach her about this or > > should > > > I just butt out OR am I just being too strict and I shouldn't > > expect > > > her to follow the rules that are in my Richmond binder? > > > > > > Any input would be appreciated! > > > > > > Tina > > > Pre-Op / Richmond > > > Dr. Baggs > > > weigh-in is on Monday!!!! Yikes! > > > 330/297/165 some day > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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