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I know the feeling you describe. Usually I get the back of neck pain after

eating sugar.

question

Does anyone get really bad pains in the back of their neck several hours

before the glands in their jaw swell?

R.

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[Guest guest]

I just started my son on Kirkmans EVERDAY VITAMINS. He is having diffuculty

falling asleep and staying asleep. I know about Melatonin w/mag....thank

goodness. But does anyone know what in those vitamins can be keeping him

awake (B vitamins???)

Thanks

Pam in Long Island

[Guest guest]

I just started my son on Kirkmans EVERDAY VITAMINS. He is having diffuculty

falling asleep and staying asleep. I know about Melatonin w/mag....thank

goodness. But does anyone know what in those vitamins can be keeping him

awake (B vitamins???)

Thanks

Pam in Long Island

[Guest guest]

B vitamins can only be given in the morning otherwise they will be up all

night.

Holly

----- Original Message -----

> I just started my son on Kirkmans EVERDAY VITAMINS. He is having

diffuculty

> falling asleep and staying asleep. I know about Melatonin w/mag....thank

> goodness. But does anyone know what in those vitamins can be keeping him

> awake (B vitamins???)

>

> Thanks

> Pam in Long Island

[Guest guest]

B vitamins can only be given in the morning otherwise they will be up all

night.

Holly

----- Original Message -----

> I just started my son on Kirkmans EVERDAY VITAMINS. He is having

diffuculty

> falling asleep and staying asleep. I know about Melatonin w/mag....thank

> goodness. But does anyone know what in those vitamins can be keeping him

> awake (B vitamins???)

>

> Thanks

> Pam in Long Island

[Guest guest]

Hi Kim,

Your question isn't insensitive at all. The two people who passed away were

at opposite ends of the spectrum. I believe Danny only had symptoms for a

couple years and Charlotte had symptoms for well over 10 years. We do know

of several people who have had symptoms for over 20 years.

If you manage your symptoms aggressively... get speech and swallowing

therapy, do range of motion exercises.. swim if possible... and be on guard

for any signs of infection you will greatly prolong your life. Also watch

out for sleep problems... apnea (cessation of breathing) is common and very

treatable with a breathing mask worn while sleeping. Infections (urinary

tract infections, yeast and pneumonia) are often overlooked because people

with MSA run a lower than normal body temperature. Take your temperature

regularly so you know what is normal for you. If it rises you'll know that

an infection is present... you must go to a doctor immediately... go to the

emergency room if you can't get in to see your GP right away. Insist that

you be checked for infection.

Drink lots and lots of water and cranberry juice. At least 64 oz of fluids

per day. This will protect you from urinary tract infections and keep your

blood pressure up.

If you have balance problems don't put off getting a wheelchair. If you

fall and break some bones you will lose mobility very quickly. A wheelchair

will keep you safe. If you become bedridden you are more at risk for

pneumonia.

These are all practical tips we've learned over the years and they work! A

positive attitude is very important... focus on what you can still do and

live your life fully.

Look through our bookmarks at the website

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shydrager

Click on " Bookmarks "

There are speech and swallowing exercises in there and I believe there is a

link describing range of motion exercises too. Take a class for people with

arthritis... it's the same set of exercises.

Stay with us and keep asking questions.

Hugs,

Pam

[Guest guest]

Hi Kim,

Your question isn't insensitive at all. The two people who passed away were

at opposite ends of the spectrum. I believe Danny only had symptoms for a

couple years and Charlotte had symptoms for well over 10 years. We do know

of several people who have had symptoms for over 20 years.

If you manage your symptoms aggressively... get speech and swallowing

therapy, do range of motion exercises.. swim if possible... and be on guard

for any signs of infection you will greatly prolong your life. Also watch

out for sleep problems... apnea (cessation of breathing) is common and very

treatable with a breathing mask worn while sleeping. Infections (urinary

tract infections, yeast and pneumonia) are often overlooked because people

with MSA run a lower than normal body temperature. Take your temperature

regularly so you know what is normal for you. If it rises you'll know that

an infection is present... you must go to a doctor immediately... go to the

emergency room if you can't get in to see your GP right away. Insist that

you be checked for infection.

Drink lots and lots of water and cranberry juice. At least 64 oz of fluids

per day. This will protect you from urinary tract infections and keep your

blood pressure up.

If you have balance problems don't put off getting a wheelchair. If you

fall and break some bones you will lose mobility very quickly. A wheelchair

will keep you safe. If you become bedridden you are more at risk for

pneumonia.

These are all practical tips we've learned over the years and they work! A

positive attitude is very important... focus on what you can still do and

live your life fully.

Look through our bookmarks at the website

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shydrager

Click on " Bookmarks "

There are speech and swallowing exercises in there and I believe there is a

link describing range of motion exercises too. Take a class for people with

arthritis... it's the same set of exercises.

Stay with us and keep asking questions.

Hugs,

Pam

[Guest guest]

Hi Kim,

Your question isn't insensitive at all. The two people who passed away were

at opposite ends of the spectrum. I believe Danny only had symptoms for a

couple years and Charlotte had symptoms for well over 10 years. We do know

of several people who have had symptoms for over 20 years.

If you manage your symptoms aggressively... get speech and swallowing

therapy, do range of motion exercises.. swim if possible... and be on guard

for any signs of infection you will greatly prolong your life. Also watch

out for sleep problems... apnea (cessation of breathing) is common and very

treatable with a breathing mask worn while sleeping. Infections (urinary

tract infections, yeast and pneumonia) are often overlooked because people

with MSA run a lower than normal body temperature. Take your temperature

regularly so you know what is normal for you. If it rises you'll know that

an infection is present... you must go to a doctor immediately... go to the

emergency room if you can't get in to see your GP right away. Insist that

you be checked for infection.

Drink lots and lots of water and cranberry juice. At least 64 oz of fluids

per day. This will protect you from urinary tract infections and keep your

blood pressure up.

If you have balance problems don't put off getting a wheelchair. If you

fall and break some bones you will lose mobility very quickly. A wheelchair

will keep you safe. If you become bedridden you are more at risk for

pneumonia.

These are all practical tips we've learned over the years and they work! A

positive attitude is very important... focus on what you can still do and

live your life fully.

Look through our bookmarks at the website

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shydrager

Click on " Bookmarks "

There are speech and swallowing exercises in there and I believe there is a

link describing range of motion exercises too. Take a class for people with

arthritis... it's the same set of exercises.

Stay with us and keep asking questions.

Hugs,

Pam

[Guest guest]

Kim,

No one knows how much time you have. Charlotte was diagnosed as

PD in 1990 and MSA in 1995. It progressed rapidly from few symptoms

to w/c bound in five years and then she had almost seven years of a reasonably

good life right up to her death. Movement did get slowly worse over

the last three years, but she did have the grandkids and enjoyed TV.

We do lose a number of people each year and some are well known because

they contributed to the list. Jim Todd and Charlotte were well known,

but so were Ken , Ralph Selleck, Ralph Harrer and many, many others.

With 600 people on the list, even if you figure 12 years as an average,

we will lose 50 per year. Some of the people never let us know they

are here and that is a shame as the benefit I get from the list is the

feeling of it as a family. It does help to vent, and express

feelings. I know that I am not the only caregiver to ever yell at

my patient (especially when they go to sit halfway between the bed and

chair). But we can all laugh at those feelings, because we have all

done something like that.

Don't EVER be afraid to ask a question. Truthfully people on the

list have survivred 2-27 years after a diagnoses, so that is not a lot

of help. I personally believe that exercise can prolong both life

and quality of life, but there is more than just exercise involved in the

equation.

Charlotte hit the list hard because I write a lot to the list and we

have used her as an example of how to survive. She may be on the

high end of average at 12 years. You will see people die on the list

in fact here is a partial list

http://freepages.health.rootsweb.com/~charmayn/memorial.html

Don't let it scare you when members of the list die. Caregivers

also die in fact we had a caregiver killed by a drunk driver this year.

There is support here.

Take care, Bill Werre

==========================

Dolphin2001XX@... wrote:

I

hope that this does not seem an insensitive time to ask this question,

I certainly do not mean it that way. As a new person to the group

I am not very familiar with everyone but am extremely sorry to hear of

the passing of Charlotte and Danny. My thoughts and prayers go out

to there freinds and families. Being newly diagnosed (just in the

past month) with MSA though, my question is how long ago were the two of

them diagnosed? Again, I do not mean to seem insensitive by the question,

I have just been thrown for a loop by the diagnosis itself and seeing two

people in the same list passing away so soon really frightens me as to

what the future holds for me.

Thanks

to everyone.

Kim

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[Guest guest]

Kim,

No one knows how much time you have. Charlotte was diagnosed as

PD in 1990 and MSA in 1995. It progressed rapidly from few symptoms

to w/c bound in five years and then she had almost seven years of a reasonably

good life right up to her death. Movement did get slowly worse over

the last three years, but she did have the grandkids and enjoyed TV.

We do lose a number of people each year and some are well known because

they contributed to the list. Jim Todd and Charlotte were well known,

but so were Ken , Ralph Selleck, Ralph Harrer and many, many others.

With 600 people on the list, even if you figure 12 years as an average,

we will lose 50 per year. Some of the people never let us know they

are here and that is a shame as the benefit I get from the list is the

feeling of it as a family. It does help to vent, and express

feelings. I know that I am not the only caregiver to ever yell at

my patient (especially when they go to sit halfway between the bed and

chair). But we can all laugh at those feelings, because we have all

done something like that.

Don't EVER be afraid to ask a question. Truthfully people on the

list have survivred 2-27 years after a diagnoses, so that is not a lot

of help. I personally believe that exercise can prolong both life

and quality of life, but there is more than just exercise involved in the

equation.

Charlotte hit the list hard because I write a lot to the list and we

have used her as an example of how to survive. She may be on the

high end of average at 12 years. You will see people die on the list

in fact here is a partial list

http://freepages.health.rootsweb.com/~charmayn/memorial.html

Don't let it scare you when members of the list die. Caregivers

also die in fact we had a caregiver killed by a drunk driver this year.

There is support here.

Take care, Bill Werre

==========================

Dolphin2001XX@... wrote:

I

hope that this does not seem an insensitive time to ask this question,

I certainly do not mean it that way. As a new person to the group

I am not very familiar with everyone but am extremely sorry to hear of

the passing of Charlotte and Danny. My thoughts and prayers go out

to there freinds and families. Being newly diagnosed (just in the

past month) with MSA though, my question is how long ago were the two of

them diagnosed? Again, I do not mean to seem insensitive by the question,

I have just been thrown for a loop by the diagnosis itself and seeing two

people in the same list passing away so soon really frightens me as to

what the future holds for me.

Thanks

to everyone.

Kim

If you do not wish to belong to shydrager,

you may

unsubscribe by sending a blank email

to

shydrager-unsubscribe

[Guest guest]

Kim,

No one knows how much time you have. Charlotte was diagnosed as

PD in 1990 and MSA in 1995. It progressed rapidly from few symptoms

to w/c bound in five years and then she had almost seven years of a reasonably

good life right up to her death. Movement did get slowly worse over

the last three years, but she did have the grandkids and enjoyed TV.

We do lose a number of people each year and some are well known because

they contributed to the list. Jim Todd and Charlotte were well known,

but so were Ken , Ralph Selleck, Ralph Harrer and many, many others.

With 600 people on the list, even if you figure 12 years as an average,

we will lose 50 per year. Some of the people never let us know they

are here and that is a shame as the benefit I get from the list is the

feeling of it as a family. It does help to vent, and express

feelings. I know that I am not the only caregiver to ever yell at

my patient (especially when they go to sit halfway between the bed and

chair). But we can all laugh at those feelings, because we have all

done something like that.

Don't EVER be afraid to ask a question. Truthfully people on the

list have survivred 2-27 years after a diagnoses, so that is not a lot

of help. I personally believe that exercise can prolong both life

and quality of life, but there is more than just exercise involved in the

equation.

Charlotte hit the list hard because I write a lot to the list and we

have used her as an example of how to survive. She may be on the

high end of average at 12 years. You will see people die on the list

in fact here is a partial list

http://freepages.health.rootsweb.com/~charmayn/memorial.html

Don't let it scare you when members of the list die. Caregivers

also die in fact we had a caregiver killed by a drunk driver this year.

There is support here.

Take care, Bill Werre

==========================

Dolphin2001XX@... wrote:

I

hope that this does not seem an insensitive time to ask this question,

I certainly do not mean it that way. As a new person to the group

I am not very familiar with everyone but am extremely sorry to hear of

the passing of Charlotte and Danny. My thoughts and prayers go out

to there freinds and families. Being newly diagnosed (just in the

past month) with MSA though, my question is how long ago were the two of

them diagnosed? Again, I do not mean to seem insensitive by the question,

I have just been thrown for a loop by the diagnosis itself and seeing two

people in the same list passing away so soon really frightens me as to

what the future holds for me.

Thanks

to everyone.

Kim

If you do not wish to belong to shydrager,

you may

unsubscribe by sending a blank email

to

shydrager-unsubscribe

[Guest guest]

Bill and others,

Thank you so much for taking the time to answer my question. I guess on one hand I am a little freaked out by the diagnosis but on the other finally releived that a doctor will listen when I told him that something else is going on and I thought that my PD was progressing much more rapidly than I thought. I think in some ways it helps to have a name to the condition and know what is going on so that getting treatment is easier.

I seperated from my husband in June and my boys and I moved back in with my parents so my mom is my primary caregiver, alot to handle helping with a 12 and 5 year old and now driving me around since the neuro has told me I can no longer drive. I am sure it is very hard on her emotionally to have to take care of a 36 year old daughter also, although she doesn't say so. For her Christmas gift as a big thank you I am planning on the two of us going to Las Vegas. She has never been and I really want to take her while I am still reasonably well and we can both really enjoy it. I think this will give me something to look forward to and make sure I keep on top of my health and try my best not to get any infections before then.

By the way, if anyone has any creative ways that I can wrap the airline tickets and hotel conformations for Christmas I would appreciate it.

Hope everyone has a great day.

Kim

[Guest guest]

> I hope that this does not seem an insensitive time to ask this

question, I

> certainly do not mean it that way. As a new person to the group I

am not

> very familiar with everyone but am extremely sorry to hear of the

passing of

> Charlotte and Danny. My thoughts and prayers go out to there

freinds and

> families. Being newly diagnosed (just in the past month) with MSA

though, my

> question is how long ago were the two of them diagnosed? Again, I

do not

> mean to seem insensitive by the question, I have just been thrown

for a loop

> by the diagnosis itself and seeing two people in the same list

passing away

> so soon really frightens me as to what the future holds for me.

> Thanks to everyone.

> Kim

Hi Kim, I too am new to this board and I have not received the

diagnosis as of yet, but seem to have symptoms. I cannot believe the

wonderful people on this board. I've been to MANY baords lately in

search of answers to my questions, BUT have never met a group of such

caring people!!!!!! I am on my 3rd neuro and he too is telling me he

is baffled. Wants to do a spinal tap then if it shows nothing to him

he wants me to go on to Baylor/Houston. I have had the tilt table

test showing positive in some of the Parasympathetic nervous system.

Is this a test for diagnosis? What tests have brought your

conclusion? I too am frightened to see what my future brings to me. I

have been pushing myself for many years with my symptoms. SEVERE leg

pain has wanted me to stop for many years but I am so afraid of

stopping. Do you have burning leg pain? What meds seem to help you? I

just have tried my 8th one without any relief. Sleep is a big problem

for me and flexeirl is the only one that lets me sleep. I don't go to

sleep soundly. I hope you answer me back BUT most of all I hope I get

this posted to the board, been having trouble in that area. MANY<

MANY thanks to ALL on this board!! Hugs, Valarie

[Guest guest]

> Hi Kim, I too am new to this board and I have not received the

> diagnosis as of yet, but seem to have symptoms. I cannot believe

the

> wonderful people on this board. I've been to MANY baords lately in

> search of answers to my questions, BUT have never met a group of

such

> caring people!!!!!! I am on my 3rd neuro and he too is telling me

he

> is baffled. Wants to do a spinal tap then if it shows nothing to

him

> he wants me to go on to Baylor/Houston. I have had the tilt table

> test showing positive in some of the Parasympathetic nervous

system.

> Is this a test for diagnosis? What tests have brought your

> conclusion? I too am frightened to see what my future brings to me.

I

> have been pushing myself for many years with my symptoms. SEVERE

leg

> pain has wanted me to stop for many years but I am so afraid of

> stopping. Do you have burning leg pain? What meds seem to help you?

I

> just have tried my 8th one without any relief. Sleep is a big

problem

> for me and flexeirl is the only one that lets me sleep. I don't go

to

> sleep soundly. I hope you answer me back BUT most of all I hope I

get

> this posted to the board, been having trouble in that area. MANY<

> MANY thanks to ALL on this board!! Hugs, Valarie

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I was diagnosed with Parkinson's about 3 years ago after a few years of symptoms and doctor's seeming to be baffled. I think most of them were of the mind set someone of my age could not have PD (I was diagnosed 2 days before my 33rd birthday). As far as the MSA diagnosis it came from alot of questioning and research on my part. I was having severe swallowing problems-aspiration pneumonia twice in 2 1/2 months, blackouts, blurred vision, extreme stiffness, etc. i just thought that these symptoms seemed to be too far progressed for the stage of the game of PD I was supposedly in and my Sinemet seemed to be less and less effective. I finally went on the internet ( beware of many of the sites)- I searched Mayo, Vanderbilt and 's Hopkin's and J. Fox has some great links and went to the library at the hospital etc. I bombarded my doctor with questions and let him know everything that was going on with me. I think that comunication with the doctor and making sure that you have a neuro that you are completely comfortable is key.

Right now I am taking Sinemet 50/200 4 times a day, Mirapex, Serequel, and Topamax at night. I still have problems with sleep but the doctor did not want to change to many meds at one.

I am still new to this but I will be more than happy to answer any questions for you if I can.

Kim

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I was diagnosed with Parkinson's about 3 years ago after a few years of symptoms and doctor's seeming to be baffled. I think most of them were of the mind set someone of my age could not have PD (I was diagnosed 2 days before my 33rd birthday). As far as the MSA diagnosis it came from alot of questioning and research on my part. I was having severe swallowing problems-aspiration pneumonia twice in 2 1/2 months, blackouts, blurred vision, extreme stiffness, etc. i just thought that these symptoms seemed to be too far progressed for the stage of the game of PD I was supposedly in and my Sinemet seemed to be less and less effective. I finally went on the internet ( beware of many of the sites)- I searched Mayo, Vanderbilt and 's Hopkin's and J. Fox has some great links and went to the library at the hospital etc. I bombarded my doctor with questions and let him know everything that was going on with me. I think that comunication with the doctor and making sure that you have a neuro that you are completely comfortable is key.

Right now I am taking Sinemet 50/200 4 times a day, Mirapex, Serequel, and Topamax at night. I still have problems with sleep but the doctor did not want to change to many meds at one.

I am still new to this but I will be more than happy to answer any questions for you if I can.

Kim

[Guest guest]

Greetings Kim!

You wondered:

> By the way, if anyone has any creative ways that I

> can wrap the airline tickets and hotel conformations

> for Christmas I would appreciate it.

How about the famous box in a box trick?

Or the clues to leading to clues, leading to more clues approach?

Just a couple of quick ideas.

Regards,

=jbf=

B. Fisher

[Guest guest]

Greetings Valarie!

You wondered:

> I have had the tilt table test showing positive in some

> of the Parasympathetic nervous system. Is this a test

> for diagnosis?

More than anything it indicates potential problems with your autonomic

nervous system. There is no one single test to determine MSA. But that

combined with other tests help your doctors reach a conclusion. Even if the

conclusion is that they need to get other specialists involved. My

neurologist has requested the involvement of other specialists. In my case,

I went to see a neuro-ophthamologist for my vision problems, and a

neuro-psychologist due to problems with ability to focus. In both cases,

the doctor wanted some definitive diagnosis (even if it's just a baseline

for the future).

> I too am frightened to see what my future brings to me.

In all truth, is it really any different than before? We never know what

will happen. But we can know how we will try to act and react to a

situation. That and only that is in our control. Claim the future with

hope and a vengance. Enjoy life. With all the blemishes on it, it is still

a wonderful Gift!

> SEVERE leg pain has wanted me to stop for many years

> but I am so afraid of stopping. Do you have burning leg

> pain? What meds seem to help you? I just have tried my

> 8th one without any relief.

Have you tried Neurontin? It often helps with the burning sensation. It

appears I ignore far more pain than most people. Due to vision and sinus

problems, I've put up with headaches for years. But the tingling sensation

is just too much. There is precious little way to hide from it. The

Neurontin does help.

> Sleep is a big problem for me and flexeirl is the only one

> that lets me sleep. I don't go to sleep soundly.

If you have not already requested a visit to a sleep specialist, please do

so. Sleep problems should never be masked with medication! That is, quite

literally, deadly! Cessation of breathing (apnea) during sleep can cause

cardiovascular problems and even death. If you have problems sleeping, then

see a sleep specialist. You may 'only' have insomnia. But at least you

will know that something very correctable is not being overlooked.

And believe me, I understand both problems. I use quotes around " only " for

very good reason. But even that can be managed. But only if all other

underlying issues are corrected.

Regards,

=jbf=

B. Fisher

[Guest guest]

Greetings Jo (via rebekhaml):

You wondered:

> Do any of you have problems with similar

> rather odd brain episodes when you literally

> can not wake up. It usually last for 24 hours.

Yes. We've had this discussion before. It may be just another example of a

problem with the autonomic nervous system.

HOWEVER, as with any type of sleep problem, I strongly recommend that you

should see a sleep specialist. It is possible this can be managed through

medication or other therapies.

Regards,

=jbf=

B. Fisher

[Guest guest]

Is your 4-yr-old that weighs 50 pounds almost 5, or just turned 4.

Because I am looking at the girls' growth chart, and 50 pounds for a

4yr 0 month child is way above the 95%'tile. For a 5-yr-old it is

roughly the 95%'tile. So yes, if your 4-yr-old is 44-45 inches tall,

then yes, her height would be in about the same percentile as her

weight (above the 95%'tile). But still way above the average child.

It sounds to me like your 4-yr-old is way above average. So yes,

although Kelsey is still quite small for a 9-yr-old, the huge

difference between her and her younger sister is also that her

younger sister is way above average.

Can't wait to meet you at the convention!

> I have 3 children! My son who is 12 weighs 90 pounds, my daughter

> kelsey, who everyone has heard about weighs 60 pounds and this is

the

> shocking one, my 4 year old daughter who weighs 50 pounds. I just

had

> them weighed and i never realized that the 2 girls who are 5 years

> apart are so close in weight!I always knew kelsey was tiny but i

> think reality just kicked in. Is this normal for them to be so

close

> in weight or is it that kelsey is that tiny? My youngest child is

not

> fat and the docs. says she is perfect for her age so where does

that

> leave kelsey! Thanks Jackie mom of kelsey

[Guest guest]

It's nice to know that i'm not the only one going threw this problem! My

mother always said you can't compair the two girls cause they are so

differant but it's hard not to. 5 years is a big gap between them and i just

find it weird that they are so close in weight and the youngest is'nt that

far off in height. I give her a year and she will be either the same size or

bigger then kelsey. My son and kelsey are 2 and a half years apart and he is

almost 35 pounds heavier then her but he is tall and real skinny. Poor kelsey

she is just going to be little like she always has been!

Thanks for the write back Jackie mom of kelsey

[Guest guest]

Jackie,

I found it very interesting that your youngest is near the top of the growth

charts. I only have 2 girls - Charissa is nearly 4 years older than & is

the one with all the medical issues and was off the bottom of the growth charts.

She didn't even hit 5% on the charts for years (she was 7 when she hit it for

weight - thanks to taking Periactin for 3 years - & nearly 10 when she hit it

for height).

was only 6 lb. 7 oz. at birth but grew really well & within a year she

followed the curve near the top of the chart for years. She always looked (and

acted!) older than she was. Her puberty seemed to come a bit early (she was 10)

but she was practically full grown by then. She is 13 now & her growth has

tapered off. Since she is about 5 ft. 5 in. and 135 lbs. and Charissa is 5 ft.

2 in. and 108 lbs. (and not as mature acting or as shapeley as ) everyone

assumes that is my oldest. They are opposites in other areas too -

Charissa has an IEP & is gifted. So I can really relate to what you are

going through!

Chris

>

> Subject: Re: Question

>

> Is your 4-yr-old that weighs 50 pounds almost 5, or just turned 4.

> Because I am looking at the girls' growth chart, and 50 pounds for a

> 4yr 0 month child is way above the 95%'tile. For a 5-yr-old it is

> roughly the 95%'tile. So yes, if your 4-yr-old is 44-45 inches tall,

> then yes, her height would be in about the same percentile as her

> weight (above the 95%'tile). But still way above the average child.

>

> It sounds to me like your 4-yr-old is way above average. So yes,

> although Kelsey is still quite small for a 9-yr-old, the huge

> difference between her and her younger sister is also that her

> younger sister is way above average.

>

> Can't wait to meet you at the convention!

>

>

> > I have 3 children! My son who is 12 weighs 90 pounds, my daughter

> > kelsey, who everyone has heard about weighs 60 pounds and this is

> the

> > shocking one, my 4 year old daughter who weighs 50 pounds. I just

> had

> > them weighed and i never realized that the 2 girls who are 5 years

> > apart are so close in weight!I always knew kelsey was tiny but i

> > think reality just kicked in. Is this normal for them to be so

> close

> > in weight or is it that kelsey is that tiny? My youngest child is

> not

> > fat and the docs. says she is perfect for her age so where does

> that

> > leave kelsey! Thanks Jackie mom of kelsey

>

>

>

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You will be fine. WOW QUADS. How exciting. I cn see why you are scared but

the babies will take from you everything they need. Try to snack in between

meals with all the good things like fruits and veggies and even peanuts low in

sodium for protien. Try to eat ONLY GOOD STUFF, NO JUNK I am ssooo happy for

you. Is this your first pregnancy???? A BIG CONGRATUALATIONS. Is your doctor

you re going to be seeing a high risk doctor? if not I would really see one of

them first if they have one in your area. They take extra special care of you

and keep a good watch on those babies. They will measure them alot and see they

are growing properly. Please keep us posted, I will be praying for you all.

HUGS, ROBIN, NY

TTC#4 - I DID IT, YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!

OPEN RNY

10-18-02

378/254/170???

DR.EDWARD HIXSON

SARANAC LAKE, NY

Mom to:

&

7 year twin boys and

Madison age 4

Married to Pup:

15 years this

Halloween : )

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In a message dated 8/4/03 11:46:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time, vittbb@...

writes:

> I am just real scared. A quad for normal mommies weighs 2 to 3

> pounds so does that mean mine won't even be that big.

>

>

Your babies will still be the same size as any other mommy of quads. You are

Normal too

HUGS, ROBIN, NY

TTC#4 - I DID IT, YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!

OPEN RNY

10-18-02

378/254/170???

DR.EDWARD HIXSON

SARANAC LAKE, NY

Mom to:

&

7 year twin boys and

Madison age 4

Married to Pup:

15 years this

Halloween : )

[Guest guest]

Robin,

Thank you. I do eat every two hours I don't eat fruits but I am going

to start. Will the natural sugar in fruits make me dump. I guess I

won't know till I try. I have two older boys one 19 and one 15. I am

35 so it is like two families. I am going to see a high risk

Peritongist. (not spelled right) but I don't know if he has ever had

a GB patient before. I tried calling my GB surgeon but he was no help

he was not great in follow up so I should have figured he would not

know.

-- In OSSG-pregnant , mamaslilqueen@a... wrote:

> You will be fine. WOW QUADS. How exciting. I cn see why you are

scared but

> the babies will take from you everything they need. Try to snack in

between

> meals with all the good things like fruits and veggies and even

peanuts low in

> sodium for protien. Try to eat ONLY GOOD STUFF, NO JUNK I am

ssooo happy for

> you. Is this your first pregnancy???? A BIG CONGRATUALATIONS. Is

your doctor

> you re going to be seeing a high risk doctor? if not I would really

see one of

> them first if they have one in your area. They take extra special

care of you

> and keep a good watch on those babies. They will measure them alot

and see they

> are growing properly. Please keep us posted, I will be praying for

you all.

>

> HUGS, ROBIN, NY

> TTC#4 - I DID IT, YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!

> OPEN RNY

> 10-18-02

> 378/254/170???

> DR.EDWARD HIXSON

> SARANAC LAKE, NY

> Mom to:

> &

> 7 year twin boys and

> Madison age 4

> Married to Pup:

> 15 years this

> Halloween : )

>

>

>

>