Guest guest Posted December 8, 2000 Report Share Posted December 8, 2000 Kim, Many babies aren't ready to drop any nighttime feedings for a long time. The deep sleep cycle lasts only about 20 minutes so that is plenty of time for the baby to cycle through all sleep stages. Sometime dropping a nighttime feeding can work great but other times it backfires and can make the baby much more clingy and wakeful. Just my .02 Wendi http://www.lactivist.com " When individuals have been born gently, welcomed kindly into the community, breastfed for many years, they do not become greedy people. They come from a place of fullness and balance with all our relations. " Jeannine Parvati Baker Sleepless nights I would think that because she awakens 4 times a night for breastfeeding that her body would have a lot of trouble getting into a deep sleep since she's probably only asleep for about 4 hours max at a time??? If she's sleeping 12 hours??? So her body probably can't get into the sleep cycle that it needs to in this time. Maybe try dropping 1 nighttime feeding at a time until she's sleeping right through. KimB 05/28/96 Amy 02/15/00 Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! http://www.lactivist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2000 Report Share Posted December 8, 2000 Perhaps this boils down to personal preference and opinion but I don't think that these statements are true. <> I don't believe that you should ever ignore your baby purposely simply to make them 'learn' to sleep. All they are learning is that their cries are being ignored. Every single baby is different and my youngest was never forced to learn to go to sleep on her own. She was 'parented' to sleep, be it nursing, walking, rocking or reading. As an almost 4 year old, she has no problems going to bed when she is supposed to, and staying there all night barring the occasional bad dream or rough night...but even my 9 and 10 year old have them. Jenn -----Original Message----- From: KimB I know that all babies are so different, just from my experience this is what worked best for me. I also know that the longer you wait to have your baby sleep through the night the harder it is for them when the time comes. Mind you some people don't mind if their babies sleep through the night at all. It's hard for a baby to " learn " how to sleep on their own and the earlier you start the better. For me the only time that I will get up with Amy after she's down for the night is if she's going through a growth spurt, sick, or the occasional sleepless night. I guess it's just a personal preference. KimB >Kim, > >Many babies aren't ready to drop any nighttime feedings for a long time. >The deep sleep cycle lasts only about 20 minutes so that is plenty of time >for the baby to cycle through all sleep stages. Sometime dropping a >nighttime feeding can work great but other times it backfires and can make >the baby much more clingy and wakeful. Just my .02 > > >Wendi >http://www.lactivist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2000 Report Share Posted December 8, 2000 O.kay, so how does one drop a night feeding without having the baby cry it out? How do you " teach " your baby to sleep through the night without the crying? My first daughter (ff) was just wired to sleep and was sleeping 8 hours by 3-4 months old. My second (bf), sleeps in 4-5 hour stretches and is 3 months old. She spends from about 5 a.m. on grunting in her sleep as she passes gas for HOURS. Thankfully she has learned to sleep through the gassiness. However, I am curious how one goes about " teaching " a child to sleep through the night. Thanks for your help! Sleepless nights > > >I would think that because she awakens 4 times a night for breastfeeding >that her body would have a lot of trouble getting into a deep sleep since >she's probably only asleep for about 4 hours max at a time??? If she's >sleeping 12 hours??? So her body probably can't get into the sleep cycle >that it needs to in this time. Maybe try dropping 1 nighttime feeding at a >time until she's sleeping right through. > >KimB > 05/28/96 >Amy 02/15/00 > > > >Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! >http://www.lactivist.com > > > > >Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! >http://www.lactivist.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2000 Report Share Posted December 8, 2000 My opinion is that babies shouldn't sleep through the night. I don't sleep through the night, and the difference between me and a baby is that I know how to put myself back to sleep after I wake up. So instead of teaching your baby to sleep through the night, I believe you should try to teach that baby how to comfort herself back to sleep. Waking up once or twice in the night is fine, in my opinion, and I've heard/read some studies that say that a baby who wakes in the night has a lower risk of SIDS. (Something about an extended period in deep sleep, for babies, can prolong periods of lower respitory rate, or something.) My toddler son doesn't sleep through the night (he's 22 months) and he doesn't cry for me, unless he's had a nightmare. JMHO -- Gaunt - Due May 9, 2001 Babies come into the world with perfect love and perfect trust. ICQ#: 77144993 http://www.smallwillow.com ---- " Doug & " djtann@...> wrote: > O.kay, so how does one drop a night feeding without having the baby > cry it out? How do you " teach " your baby to sleep through the night > without the crying? My first daughter (ff) was just wired to sleep > and > was sleeping 8 hours by 3-4 months old. My second (bf), sleeps in > 4-5 hour stretches and is 3 months old. She spends from about 5 a.m. > on grunting in her sleep as she passes gas for HOURS. Thankfully > she has learned to sleep through the gassiness. However, I am > curious how one goes about " teaching " a child to sleep through the > night. > > Thanks for your help! > __________________________________________________ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2000 Report Share Posted December 8, 2000 > Perhaps this boils down to personal preference and opinion but I don't think > that these statements are true. < have your baby sleep through the night the harder it is for them when the > time comes. It's hard for a baby to " learn " how to sleep on their own and > the earlier you start the better. >> I don't believe that you should ever > ignore your baby purposely simply to make them 'learn' to sleep. All they > are learning is that their cries are being ignored. > > Every single baby is different and my youngest was never forced to learn to > go to sleep on her own. She was 'parented' to sleep, be it nursing, walking, > rocking or reading. As an almost 4 year old, she has no problems going to > bed when she is supposed to, and staying there all night barring the > occasional bad dream or rough night...but even my 9 and 10 year old have > them. I would have to weigh in in favor of Jenn's statement above. My almost three year old was a parent to sleep type until after two, really until after his sister came along. Then, either dad did it, or he learned to go to sleep alone. Yes, we had a few battles, but being able to talk things through--an age benefit of being two--sure helps/ed. As for teaching one's child how to sleep--no idea--I can't stand crying which I would assume would be part of it. Amy Lynn mother to 1-25-98 and 2-10-00 Want great toys? Non-violent, educational, fun! check out www.discoverytoysinc.com, or e-mail me privately for a catalog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2000 Report Share Posted December 8, 2000 I don't believe that you can, I mean that I don't think it is something that needs to be taught, it will happen when they are ready. My oldest was ff and slept through from 4 months. My middle one was and still is bfing and didn't sleep through the night for the first time till she was 22 months. Even then, it took her another 5 months before she was doing it consistently, when she woke it was to nurse. My youngest is 8.5 months and bfing and sleeps really well at night, not sure if its all the way through, he sleeps with us so I don't really pay attention anymore to how often he wakes to feed. I'm not losing any sleep so I am happy. IMHO people put too much effort into getting babies to sleep. Michele, mom of Arran 12-27-93, Keely 12-5-97 & Rowan 3-15-00! ICQ# 13092478Our Family Pages ~ http://www.telusplanet.net/public/jcrocker/micheles.htmModerator of Albertan Moms on the Net! http://www.geocities.com/albertanmoms/ Do your eyes light up when your child walks into the room? ~ Toni on Sleepless nights>>>I would think that because she awakens 4 times a night for breastfeeding>that her body would have a lot of trouble getting into a deep sleep since>she's probably only asleep for about 4 hours max at a time??? If she's>sleeping 12 hours??? So her body probably can't get into the sleep cycle>that it needs to in this time. Maybe try dropping 1 nighttime feeding at a>time until she's sleeping right through.>>KimB> 05/28/96>Amy 02/15/00>>>>Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed!>http://www.lactivist.com>>>>>Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed!>http://www.lactivist.com>>-------------------------- eGroups Sponsor -------------------------~-~>eGroups eLertsIt's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free!>Give'>http://click.egroups.com/1/9698/0/_/410002/_/976309679/-------------------------------------------------------------------->Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed!http://www.lactivist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2000 Report Share Posted December 8, 2000 Kim, I guess it just is that I believe that children need to come to their own rhythm of sleep and a crying baby gets picked up here no matter what the time. Wendi http://www.lactivist.com " When individuals have been born gently, welcomed kindly into the community, breastfed for many years, they do not become greedy people. They come from a place of fullness and balance with all our relations. " Jeannine Parvati Baker Sleepless nights I know that all babies are so different, just from my experience this is what worked best for me. I also know that the longer you wait to have your baby sleep through the night the harder it is for them when the time comes. Mind you some people don't mind if their babies sleep through the night at all. It's hard for a baby to " learn " how to sleep on their own and the earlier you start the better. For me the only time that I will get up with Amy after she's down for the night is if she's going through a growth spurt, sick, or the occasional sleepless night. I guess it's just a personal preference. KimB >Kim, > >Many babies aren't ready to drop any nighttime feedings for a long time. >The deep sleep cycle lasts only about 20 minutes so that is plenty of time >for the baby to cycle through all sleep stages. Sometime dropping a >nighttime feeding can work great but other times it backfires and can make >the baby much more clingy and wakeful. Just my .02 > > >Wendi >http://www.lactivist.com Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! http://www.lactivist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2000 Report Share Posted December 8, 2000 Kim, I guess it just is that I believe that children need to come to their own rhythm of sleep and a crying baby gets picked up here no matter what the time. Wendi http://www.lactivist.com " When individuals have been born gently, welcomed kindly into the community, breastfed for many years, they do not become greedy people. They come from a place of fullness and balance with all our relations. " Jeannine Parvati Baker Sleepless nights I know that all babies are so different, just from my experience this is what worked best for me. I also know that the longer you wait to have your baby sleep through the night the harder it is for them when the time comes. Mind you some people don't mind if their babies sleep through the night at all. It's hard for a baby to " learn " how to sleep on their own and the earlier you start the better. For me the only time that I will get up with Amy after she's down for the night is if she's going through a growth spurt, sick, or the occasional sleepless night. I guess it's just a personal preference. KimB >Kim, > >Many babies aren't ready to drop any nighttime feedings for a long time. >The deep sleep cycle lasts only about 20 minutes so that is plenty of time >for the baby to cycle through all sleep stages. Sometime dropping a >nighttime feeding can work great but other times it backfires and can make >the baby much more clingy and wakeful. Just my .02 > > >Wendi >http://www.lactivist.com Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! http://www.lactivist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2000 Report Share Posted December 8, 2000 Kim, I guess it just is that I believe that children need to come to their own rhythm of sleep and a crying baby gets picked up here no matter what the time. Wendi http://www.lactivist.com " When individuals have been born gently, welcomed kindly into the community, breastfed for many years, they do not become greedy people. They come from a place of fullness and balance with all our relations. " Jeannine Parvati Baker Sleepless nights I know that all babies are so different, just from my experience this is what worked best for me. I also know that the longer you wait to have your baby sleep through the night the harder it is for them when the time comes. Mind you some people don't mind if their babies sleep through the night at all. It's hard for a baby to " learn " how to sleep on their own and the earlier you start the better. For me the only time that I will get up with Amy after she's down for the night is if she's going through a growth spurt, sick, or the occasional sleepless night. I guess it's just a personal preference. KimB >Kim, > >Many babies aren't ready to drop any nighttime feedings for a long time. >The deep sleep cycle lasts only about 20 minutes so that is plenty of time >for the baby to cycle through all sleep stages. Sometime dropping a >nighttime feeding can work great but other times it backfires and can make >the baby much more clingy and wakeful. Just my .02 > > >Wendi >http://www.lactivist.com Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! http://www.lactivist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2000 Report Share Posted December 8, 2000 Kim, I am guessing that you have probably not had a high-needs baby. It was impossible for me to get my dd to sleep without many different means on a daily basis. This girl fought sleep like I have never seen, including holding open her own eyelids in the car at three months old! No lie! She would cry until she was purple if you let her. There was no dropping any feedings or letting her get back to sleep on her own, it didn't happen. That is why in my post I was just countering saying that it may not work for all babies. I am so glad that you found what worked for your family but it certainly didn't for my dd, believe me I tried. LOL Wendi http://www.lactivist.com " When individuals have been born gently, welcomed kindly into the community, breastfed for many years, they do not become greedy people. They come from a place of fullness and balance with all our relations. " Jeannine Parvati Baker Sleepless nights You're right it is personal preference. I just know from my own experience with my 2 babies and from what I've learned from friends and the way we do things. I just can't imagine getting up all night long, rocking & walking them! I hold them all through the day and they know that at night when I put them down, it's time to sleep! And that I will be there for them in the morning (or sick, growth spurt...) Amy plays in her crib, with her mobile on for about 2 minutes every night before turning over and going to sleep (no crying at all). My son is 4 and also has no problems going to bed or sleeping from my way of Parenting him. KimB >Perhaps this boils down to personal preference and opinion but I don't think >that these statements are true. <have your baby sleep through the night the harder it is for them when the >time comes. It's hard for a baby to " learn " how to sleep on their own and >the earlier you start the better. >> I don't believe that you should ever >ignore your baby purposely simply to make them 'learn' to sleep. All they >are learning is that their cries are being ignored. > >Every single baby is different and my youngest was never forced to learn to >go to sleep on her own. She was 'parented' to sleep, be it nursing, walking, >rocking or reading. As an almost 4 year old, she has no problems going to >bed when she is supposed to, and staying there all night barring the >occasional bad dream or rough night...but even my 9 and 10 year old have >them. > >Jenn Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! http://www.lactivist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2000 Report Share Posted December 8, 2000 Kim, I am guessing that you have probably not had a high-needs baby. It was impossible for me to get my dd to sleep without many different means on a daily basis. This girl fought sleep like I have never seen, including holding open her own eyelids in the car at three months old! No lie! She would cry until she was purple if you let her. There was no dropping any feedings or letting her get back to sleep on her own, it didn't happen. That is why in my post I was just countering saying that it may not work for all babies. I am so glad that you found what worked for your family but it certainly didn't for my dd, believe me I tried. LOL Wendi http://www.lactivist.com " When individuals have been born gently, welcomed kindly into the community, breastfed for many years, they do not become greedy people. They come from a place of fullness and balance with all our relations. " Jeannine Parvati Baker Sleepless nights You're right it is personal preference. I just know from my own experience with my 2 babies and from what I've learned from friends and the way we do things. I just can't imagine getting up all night long, rocking & walking them! I hold them all through the day and they know that at night when I put them down, it's time to sleep! And that I will be there for them in the morning (or sick, growth spurt...) Amy plays in her crib, with her mobile on for about 2 minutes every night before turning over and going to sleep (no crying at all). My son is 4 and also has no problems going to bed or sleeping from my way of Parenting him. KimB >Perhaps this boils down to personal preference and opinion but I don't think >that these statements are true. <have your baby sleep through the night the harder it is for them when the >time comes. It's hard for a baby to " learn " how to sleep on their own and >the earlier you start the better. >> I don't believe that you should ever >ignore your baby purposely simply to make them 'learn' to sleep. All they >are learning is that their cries are being ignored. > >Every single baby is different and my youngest was never forced to learn to >go to sleep on her own. She was 'parented' to sleep, be it nursing, walking, >rocking or reading. As an almost 4 year old, she has no problems going to >bed when she is supposed to, and staying there all night barring the >occasional bad dream or rough night...but even my 9 and 10 year old have >them. > >Jenn Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! http://www.lactivist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2000 Report Share Posted December 8, 2000 In my house too, we pick up the baby whenever he cries. At night, he sleeps in bed with me, so I never have to deal with the issue of what to do if he cries in the night. We're already together. I just roll over and pat his back, or give him a hug, or nurse him. I would absolutely want someone to come to/comfort me if I were crying, and so I always respond to my boy if he cries. I was never worried about him sleeping through the night, by any method we've discussed here. I knew his sleeping pattern would evolve at his own rate. And actually, the super-cool thing is that we usually have the same sleep cycles. We fall asleep at approximately the same time, and wake in the night at the same times, and wake up in the morning at the same time. So I never lose sleep I wouldn't have lost anyway. (I'm actually sleeping less than Jake nowadays because I have to get up to pee several times a night. Ahh, the joys of pregnancy.) -- Gaunt - Due May 9, 2001 Babies come into the world with perfect love and perfect trust. ICQ#: 77144993 http://www.smallwillow.com ---- " Wendi " naturebaby@...> wrote: > Kim, > > I guess it just is that I believe that children need to come to their > own > rhythm of sleep and a crying baby gets picked up here no matter what > the > time. > > > Wendi > http://www.lactivist.com > > " When individuals have been born gently, welcomed kindly into the > community, > breastfed for many years, they do not become greedy people. They come > from a place of fullness and balance with all our relations. " > Jeannine Parvati Baker __________________________________________________ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2000 Report Share Posted December 8, 2000 In my house too, we pick up the baby whenever he cries. At night, he sleeps in bed with me, so I never have to deal with the issue of what to do if he cries in the night. We're already together. I just roll over and pat his back, or give him a hug, or nurse him. I would absolutely want someone to come to/comfort me if I were crying, and so I always respond to my boy if he cries. I was never worried about him sleeping through the night, by any method we've discussed here. I knew his sleeping pattern would evolve at his own rate. And actually, the super-cool thing is that we usually have the same sleep cycles. We fall asleep at approximately the same time, and wake in the night at the same times, and wake up in the morning at the same time. So I never lose sleep I wouldn't have lost anyway. (I'm actually sleeping less than Jake nowadays because I have to get up to pee several times a night. Ahh, the joys of pregnancy.) -- Gaunt - Due May 9, 2001 Babies come into the world with perfect love and perfect trust. ICQ#: 77144993 http://www.smallwillow.com ---- " Wendi " naturebaby@...> wrote: > Kim, > > I guess it just is that I believe that children need to come to their > own > rhythm of sleep and a crying baby gets picked up here no matter what > the > time. > > > Wendi > http://www.lactivist.com > > " When individuals have been born gently, welcomed kindly into the > community, > breastfed for many years, they do not become greedy people. They come > from a place of fullness and balance with all our relations. " > Jeannine Parvati Baker __________________________________________________ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2000 Report Share Posted December 8, 2000 In my house too, we pick up the baby whenever he cries. At night, he sleeps in bed with me, so I never have to deal with the issue of what to do if he cries in the night. We're already together. I just roll over and pat his back, or give him a hug, or nurse him. I would absolutely want someone to come to/comfort me if I were crying, and so I always respond to my boy if he cries. I was never worried about him sleeping through the night, by any method we've discussed here. I knew his sleeping pattern would evolve at his own rate. And actually, the super-cool thing is that we usually have the same sleep cycles. We fall asleep at approximately the same time, and wake in the night at the same times, and wake up in the morning at the same time. So I never lose sleep I wouldn't have lost anyway. (I'm actually sleeping less than Jake nowadays because I have to get up to pee several times a night. Ahh, the joys of pregnancy.) -- Gaunt - Due May 9, 2001 Babies come into the world with perfect love and perfect trust. ICQ#: 77144993 http://www.smallwillow.com ---- " Wendi " naturebaby@...> wrote: > Kim, > > I guess it just is that I believe that children need to come to their > own > rhythm of sleep and a crying baby gets picked up here no matter what > the > time. > > > Wendi > http://www.lactivist.com > > " When individuals have been born gently, welcomed kindly into the > community, > breastfed for many years, they do not become greedy people. They come > from a place of fullness and balance with all our relations. " > Jeannine Parvati Baker __________________________________________________ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2000 Report Share Posted December 8, 2000 I just followed my babies' cues, I'm on my 5th one and we've had no problems. My son slept through at 4 months, my daughter came next and didn't sleep through till she was a year old. She was more a high needs child and just needed that nighttime contact. Once they slept through they hardly ever woke up at night. I try not to stress about it and figure each one will when they are ready, the longest one was the one that went a year, the others slept through between 4 and 6 months. Sue At 04:08 PM 12/8/00 -0500, you wrote: >O.kay, so how does one drop a night feeding without having the baby >cry it out? How do you " teach " your baby to sleep through the night >without the crying? My first daughter (ff) was just wired to sleep and >was sleeping 8 hours by 3-4 months old. My second (bf), sleeps in >4-5 hour stretches and is 3 months old. She spends from about 5 a.m. >on grunting in her sleep as she passes gas for HOURS. Thankfully >she has learned to sleep through the gassiness. However, I am >curious how one goes about " teaching " a child to sleep through the night. > >Thanks for your help! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2000 Report Share Posted December 8, 2000 I just followed my babies' cues, I'm on my 5th one and we've had no problems. My son slept through at 4 months, my daughter came next and didn't sleep through till she was a year old. She was more a high needs child and just needed that nighttime contact. Once they slept through they hardly ever woke up at night. I try not to stress about it and figure each one will when they are ready, the longest one was the one that went a year, the others slept through between 4 and 6 months. Sue At 04:08 PM 12/8/00 -0500, you wrote: >O.kay, so how does one drop a night feeding without having the baby >cry it out? How do you " teach " your baby to sleep through the night >without the crying? My first daughter (ff) was just wired to sleep and >was sleeping 8 hours by 3-4 months old. My second (bf), sleeps in >4-5 hour stretches and is 3 months old. She spends from about 5 a.m. >on grunting in her sleep as she passes gas for HOURS. Thankfully >she has learned to sleep through the gassiness. However, I am >curious how one goes about " teaching " a child to sleep through the night. > >Thanks for your help! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2000 Report Share Posted December 8, 2000 I just followed my babies' cues, I'm on my 5th one and we've had no problems. My son slept through at 4 months, my daughter came next and didn't sleep through till she was a year old. She was more a high needs child and just needed that nighttime contact. Once they slept through they hardly ever woke up at night. I try not to stress about it and figure each one will when they are ready, the longest one was the one that went a year, the others slept through between 4 and 6 months. Sue At 04:08 PM 12/8/00 -0500, you wrote: >O.kay, so how does one drop a night feeding without having the baby >cry it out? How do you " teach " your baby to sleep through the night >without the crying? My first daughter (ff) was just wired to sleep and >was sleeping 8 hours by 3-4 months old. My second (bf), sleeps in >4-5 hour stretches and is 3 months old. She spends from about 5 a.m. >on grunting in her sleep as she passes gas for HOURS. Thankfully >she has learned to sleep through the gassiness. However, I am >curious how one goes about " teaching " a child to sleep through the night. > >Thanks for your help! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2000 Report Share Posted December 8, 2000 I am very lucky, started sleeping in 5 hour streches at 6 weeks 6-7 at about three months. She now sleeps anywhere from 8-12 hours! (at 8 mos) Every once in a great while she will wake up in the middle of the night to nurse, and normally I wake her around 6:30am to nurse her before I go to work, and she'll go right back to sleep. I know she wakes up during the night I have heard her, when I sayy she sleeps through, I mean without me having to get up with her -Llanda Mommy to 4/4/2000 visit 's Web page at http://www.growthspurts.com/view.asp?s=20924 "I am in shape. Round is a shape." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2000 Report Share Posted December 8, 2000 Kim, Please don't think I was being argumentative in my post!! I am just stumped because I don't know how to drop feedings. My child is just much more high needs than yours, evidently. She is definitely more so than my first. I just can't stand to let her cry. However, as for letting them work through the grunting - I have always done that. If she doesn't cry out, I don't go get her. If she sleeps through the grunting, why wake her? I am trying to put my daughter down using different techniques. Like you, my daughter was doing nursing marathons that would leave me so sore and tired that I couldn't stand it. I started trying to get her to nurse more during the day and she is doing MUCH better! This whole thread was started asking for help with their child & you responded with what worked for you. Sorry if I sounded judgmental! I really was wondering if you had found something that worked for you that minimized crying, that is all. And by the way, as my older daughter was sleeping through the night by 3-4 months, at 6-8 months when she would wake & cry out, I would delay going to her by a few minutes & she would calm herself & go back to sleep. I also let her have her pacifier in her crib at this age, but it worked. Sorry to make it look like I was against what you were saying! Sleep is a precious and highly necessary commodity, enjoy it!! Yours, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2000 Report Share Posted December 8, 2000 my older sone didn't start sleeping thru the night until he was almost 4 and my 19 month old doesn't sleep thru the night still, just had to adjust to there schedule. Wendi wrote: > > Kim, > > I am guessing that you have probably not had a high-needs baby. It > was > impossible for me to get my dd to sleep without many different means > on a > daily basis. This girl fought sleep like I have never seen, including > holding open her own eyelids in the car at three months old! No lie! > She > would cry until she was purple if you let her. There was no dropping > any > feedings or letting her get back to sleep on her own, it didn't > happen. > That is why in my post I was just countering saying that it may not > work for > all babies. I am so glad that you found what worked for your family > but it > certainly didn't for my dd, believe me I tried. LOL > -- Blessings, Lyonness The Lyonness Den, Pagan Resource site: http://www.communityzero.com/lyonnessden Lyonness Den Email Group: http://www.egroups.com/group/LyonnessDen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2000 Report Share Posted December 8, 2000 lol you pass that stage up, then you go into zombie mode, then you start to see the benefits of duck tape. KimB wrote: > > I give you credit, I'd be a basketcase! > KimB > > >my older sone didn't start sleeping thru the night until he was > almost 4 > >and my 19 month old doesn't sleep thru the night still, just had to > >adjust to there schedule. > > eGroups Sponsor > [Click Here!] > > Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! > http://www.lactivist.com -- Blessings, Lyonness The Lyonness Den, Pagan Resource site: http://www.communityzero.com/lyonnessden Lyonness Den Email Group: http://www.egroups.com/group/LyonnessDen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2000 Report Share Posted December 9, 2000 Speaking of sleeping through the night, Cameron has been less enthusiastic about nursing at night. He will eat, but not for long. So-we started giving him the pacifier if he wakes up at night. If he takes it, he sleeps for about 3 hours longer, if not, then I feed him. I'm thinking he's getting ready to drop the night feeding. He's 4 months old tomorrow-my baby's getting so big!! Love, Mommy to since 10-5-98 and Cameron since 8-10-00 jackpot@... http://users.pld.com/jackpot/cameron.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2000 Report Share Posted December 9, 2000 Speaking of sleeping through the night, Cameron has been less enthusiastic about nursing at night. He will eat, but not for long. So-we started giving him the pacifier if he wakes up at night. If he takes it, he sleeps for about 3 hours longer, if not, then I feed him. I'm thinking he's getting ready to drop the night feeding. He's 4 months old tomorrow-my baby's getting so big!! Love, Mommy to since 10-5-98 and Cameron since 8-10-00 jackpot@... http://users.pld.com/jackpot/cameron.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2000 Report Share Posted December 9, 2000 Speaking of sleeping through the night, Cameron has been less enthusiastic about nursing at night. He will eat, but not for long. So-we started giving him the pacifier if he wakes up at night. If he takes it, he sleeps for about 3 hours longer, if not, then I feed him. I'm thinking he's getting ready to drop the night feeding. He's 4 months old tomorrow-my baby's getting so big!! Love, Mommy to since 10-5-98 and Cameron since 8-10-00 jackpot@... http://users.pld.com/jackpot/cameron.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2000 Report Share Posted December 9, 2000 Kim, When dealing with my high-needs daughter that wouldn't sleep I was able to have her in my bed which made it a lot easier. I know you can't do that. I also spent many hours walking her around and carrying her in a carrier. She would get up every morning between 4-5 and just want to be walked for several hours. I did get a lot of postpartum depression and had a really hard time with her. She never slept for 5-6 hours straight until she was 3 1/2 years old. It was a very difficult time for me. I am glad that I was able to meet my daughter's needs but it definitely took a toll on me. Wendi http://www.lactivist.com " When individuals have been born gently, welcomed kindly into the community, breastfed for many years, they do not become greedy people. They come from a place of fullness and balance with all our relations. " Jeannine Parvati Baker Sleepless nights To be honest with you, I wasn't sure whether or not you were, sorry if I sounded defensive I know how hard it is to let them cry. I just cry right along with them! I also found that by nursing on only one side at a time made quite the difference. More hind milk, filling them up. I honestly just don't know what people do when their baby wants to be held all night? Do they just hold them? I'm not being sarcastic, I really don't know! That's all Amy wanted and there was no way I could just sit there and hold her all night. And yes I do need my sleep, when I started having all my sleeping troubles I ended up with quite severe depression (PPD), and I never want to go there again! KimB >Kim, Please don't think I was being argumentative in my post!! I am >just stumped because I don't know how to drop feedings. My child is >just much more high needs than yours, evidently. She is definitely more >so than my first. I just can't stand to let her cry. However, as for >letting >them work through the grunting - I have always done that. If she doesn't >cry out, I don't go get her. If she sleeps through the grunting, why wake >her? > >I am trying to put my daughter down using different techniques. Like >you, my daughter was doing nursing marathons that would leave me so >sore and tired that I couldn't stand it. I started trying to get her to >nurse >more during the day and she is doing MUCH better! > >This whole thread was started asking for help with their child & you >responded with what worked for you. Sorry if I sounded judgmental! >I really was wondering if you had found something that worked for you >that minimized crying, that is all. And by the way, as my older daughter >was sleeping through the night by 3-4 months, at 6-8 months when she >would wake & cry out, I would delay going to her by a few minutes & >she would calm herself & go back to sleep. I also let her have her >pacifier in her crib at this age, but it worked. > >Sorry to make it look like I was against what you were saying! Sleep >is a precious and highly necessary commodity, enjoy it!! > >Yours, > Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! http://www.lactivist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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