Guest guest Posted July 4, 2000 Report Share Posted July 4, 2000 In Utah, my is only allowed 1.5 hours per week. I don't think it's doing any good so far. His improvement is purely to the diet. Their reasoning is, he is improving, so he doesn't need as much as the kids who aren't. I think county might be misinformed. They will always try to give you as little as possible. In Utah, they'll cut off hours as your kid improves. You can be upbeat about your child's progress to everyone BUT the school district. Good Luck, ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2000 Report Share Posted July 4, 2000 I want to thank all of who responded to my question regarding early intervention. Now if you could have just said " Of course you can get free ABA for 20 hrs a week " I would be even more grateful!!! Thanks again. Hope you had a great 4th. eleanor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2002 Report Share Posted February 1, 2002 Autumn, Yes, Eva was in Early Intervention until age 3 (after that the public school system takes over the monitoring). It is my understanding that any child who is at risk for having problems in school (such as a kid with a hearing deficit) is automatically a candidate for Early Intervention--that's the whole point of the program. We had never even heard of Early Intervention before Eva was born--they contacted us (I guess our audiologist must have contacted them). They bought Eva's hearing aid, arranged for a teacher of the deaf to do bi-weekly speech therapy at our home, and monitored her progress in day care. Hooray for the beautiful state of Vermont, where we were living at the time! It may be the boonies, but they were really on the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 << Hooray for the beautiful state of Vermont, where we were living at the time! >> Thanks for the info . Yes it is a beautiful state. I went to a B&B there ( the town has slipped my mind) when I was living in the east. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 Hi all, I have an appointment on Wed. with and early intervention person to evaluate 's case. is doing well, but I thought it would not hurt to get him a speech evaluation since he has never had one. Also, he should be entitled to some services I would think? Autumn, you mentioned that they turned you down for therapy for Brayden once, did you ever follow through with trying again? Is anyone else doing this for their child also and do you find it helpful? Also, I just found out that if you have a child with a hearing disability, schools have to set up a classroom to function with as little back ground noise as possible if you push for it (carpeting the classroom, etc.). Do any of you have any experience with the school districts on this type of issue? Thanks, Jeannie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 << Autumn, you mentioned that they turned you down for therapy for Brayden once, did you ever follow through with trying again? >> I did call again and they told me again that with unilateral hearing there was really no need for therapy. They told me his speech should develop normally. They told me once he was in school they would provide the FM systems and they seemed very up on that, so that will hopefully be one less fight ahead of me. I did however request an evaluation and they are supposed to get back to me?? Still waiting. Please tell me how your meeting goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 Sheri, Thanks for the info and the great links. I knew you would have the type of info I was looking for! I haven't had a chance to read it all yet, but I wanted to thank you! (btw, I heard about the tennis ball thing recently also) Autumn, I was told the same thing about unilateral hearing children not having problems with speech development. seems to be doing great, but I agree with you, a professional evaluation can't hurt. Jeannie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 Sheri, Thanks for the info and the great links. I knew you would have the type of info I was looking for! I haven't had a chance to read it all yet, but I wanted to thank you! (btw, I heard about the tennis ball thing recently also) Autumn, I was told the same thing about unilateral hearing children not having problems with speech development. seems to be doing great, but I agree with you, a professional evaluation can't hurt. Jeannie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 Sheri, Thanks for the info and the great links. I knew you would have the type of info I was looking for! I haven't had a chance to read it all yet, but I wanted to thank you! (btw, I heard about the tennis ball thing recently also) Autumn, I was told the same thing about unilateral hearing children not having problems with speech development. seems to be doing great, but I agree with you, a professional evaluation can't hurt. Jeannie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 Is anyone else doing this for their child also and do you find it helpful? i had speech work for my son from age 1.5 to about age 7 when he gave up the hearing aid.. it was of IMMEASURABLE value. kids pick up a whopping percentage of their speech patterns and habits from ages 1-6 or so and keep them forever, when they become VERY hard to change, later in life.. you will NOT regret being ahead of the curve on this issue. jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 Is anyone else doing this for their child also and do you find it helpful? i had speech work for my son from age 1.5 to about age 7 when he gave up the hearing aid.. it was of IMMEASURABLE value. kids pick up a whopping percentage of their speech patterns and habits from ages 1-6 or so and keep them forever, when they become VERY hard to change, later in life.. you will NOT regret being ahead of the curve on this issue. jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 Is anyone else doing this for their child also and do you find it helpful? i had speech work for my son from age 1.5 to about age 7 when he gave up the hearing aid.. it was of IMMEASURABLE value. kids pick up a whopping percentage of their speech patterns and habits from ages 1-6 or so and keep them forever, when they become VERY hard to change, later in life.. you will NOT regret being ahead of the curve on this issue. jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 The way I understand it, everyone is entitled to an education (American Disabilities Act) but I don't believe they have to supply your needs with what *you* believe is the right intervention. It may be that they put a sound system in, or change the environment in other ways than you would like...but yes...they have to help people with disabilities. Not only that...the schools get money when they have a disability in their district so they should have the funds to do what they need. Re: Early Intervention Hi all, I have an appointment on Wed. with and early intervention person to evaluate 's case. is doing well, but I thought it would not hurt to get him a speech evaluation since he has never had one. Also, he should be entitled to some services I would think?Autumn, you mentioned that they turned you down for therapy for Brayden once, did you ever follow through with trying again?Is anyone else doing this for their child also and do you find it helpful?Also, I just found out that if you have a child with a hearing disability, schools have to set up a classroom to function with as little back ground noise as possible if you push for it (carpeting the classroom, etc.). Do any of you have any experience with the school districts on this type of issue? Thanks, Jeannie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 What you want to ask for is an acoustic evaluation of every classroom will be in. There is a list of standard minor modifications that can be made to the classroom that will make everyone's lives easier. When we made the modifications to Patty's classroom, the teacher commented (in front of the principal who fought the changes every step of the way) that this had approved the attention span and behaviour of ALL the kids, not just Patty, and he wished he could have the modifications in every classroom he taught in. You can try the informal " this is what needs " approach, and if they say no, call an IEP and demand that these be included into his IEP in order for him to receive the education he is entitled to under IDEA. One funny modification is putting tennis balls with Xs cut into them into the legs of chairs. You have NO idea how much background noise is created by the scraping of seats against linoleum as kids get up for stuff (which they do dozens of times per day, multiplied by 25-30 kids -- you get the idea). That is of course if carpet (which is preferred) is not practical. There are other really simple things, like placement of airconditioners, curtains, preferential seating, etc. One good collection of classroom acoustics articles and resources is at http://lserver.aea14.k12.ia.us/swp/tadkins/eaa/ear98summer.html And there is a classroom acoustics listserve http://groups.yahoo.com/group/classroomacoustics/ Never been on it, but heard others say good things about it. Sheri Re: Early Intervention Hi all, I have an appointment on Wed. with and early intervention person to evaluate 's case. is doing well, but I thought it would not hurt to get him a speech evaluation since he has never had one. Also, he should be entitled to some services I would think? Autumn, you mentioned that they turned you down for therapy for Brayden once, did you ever follow through with trying again? Is anyone else doing this for their child also and do you find it helpful? Also, I just found out that if you have a child with a hearing disability, schools have to set up a classroom to function with as little back ground noise as possible if you push for it (carpeting the classroom, etc.). Do any of you have any experience with the school districts on this type of issue? Thanks, Jeannie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 >> I did call again and they told me again that with unilateral hearing there was really no need for therapy Horse puckey. FYI, any school district or goverment agency who ever tells you without testing that your child is not entitled to some service that is linked to his or her receiving an appropriate education is called " Presumptive Denial of Assistive Technology " and is ILLEGAL !!!! In 1990, the Federal government published a letter stating that: In brief, it is impermissible under EHA-B for public agencies (including school districts) " to presumptively deny assistive technology " to a child with handicaps before a determination is made as to whether such technology is an element of a free appropriate public education (FAPE) for that child. Thus, consideration of a child's need for assistive technology must occur on a case-by-case basis in connection with the development of a child's individualized education program (IEP). for a full copy of the letter, see http://www.listen-up.org/rights/osep4.htm Now, the question becomes, how hard do you want to fight it? In our case, even the best speech therapy through our school system really stunk. You can make them provide it, but unfortunately, you can't force them to be any good, or even qualified to teach HOH kids (as opposed to kids with lisps and other, more standard speech therapy issues). Really good speech therapy at Stanford was covered under our private insurance for a $10 co pay per visit. So rather than fighting that one, we went the private route instead. You can tell I've finally stopped throwing up now that I'm getting feisty again, eh guys? 21 weeks down, 17 to go . . . Sheri Re: Re: Early Intervention << Autumn, you mentioned that they turned you down for therapy for Brayden once, did you ever follow through with trying again? >> I did call again and they told me again that with unilateral hearing there was really no need for therapy. They told me his speech should develop normally. They told me once he was in school they would provide the FM systems and they seemed very up on that, so that will hopefully be one less fight ahead of me. I did however request an evaluation and they are supposed to get back to me?? Still waiting. Please tell me how your meeting goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 >> I did call again and they told me again that with unilateral hearing there was really no need for therapy Horse puckey. FYI, any school district or goverment agency who ever tells you without testing that your child is not entitled to some service that is linked to his or her receiving an appropriate education is called " Presumptive Denial of Assistive Technology " and is ILLEGAL !!!! In 1990, the Federal government published a letter stating that: In brief, it is impermissible under EHA-B for public agencies (including school districts) " to presumptively deny assistive technology " to a child with handicaps before a determination is made as to whether such technology is an element of a free appropriate public education (FAPE) for that child. Thus, consideration of a child's need for assistive technology must occur on a case-by-case basis in connection with the development of a child's individualized education program (IEP). for a full copy of the letter, see http://www.listen-up.org/rights/osep4.htm Now, the question becomes, how hard do you want to fight it? In our case, even the best speech therapy through our school system really stunk. You can make them provide it, but unfortunately, you can't force them to be any good, or even qualified to teach HOH kids (as opposed to kids with lisps and other, more standard speech therapy issues). Really good speech therapy at Stanford was covered under our private insurance for a $10 co pay per visit. So rather than fighting that one, we went the private route instead. You can tell I've finally stopped throwing up now that I'm getting feisty again, eh guys? 21 weeks down, 17 to go . . . Sheri Re: Re: Early Intervention << Autumn, you mentioned that they turned you down for therapy for Brayden once, did you ever follow through with trying again? >> I did call again and they told me again that with unilateral hearing there was really no need for therapy. They told me his speech should develop normally. They told me once he was in school they would provide the FM systems and they seemed very up on that, so that will hopefully be one less fight ahead of me. I did however request an evaluation and they are supposed to get back to me?? Still waiting. Please tell me how your meeting goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 >> I did call again and they told me again that with unilateral hearing there was really no need for therapy Horse puckey. FYI, any school district or goverment agency who ever tells you without testing that your child is not entitled to some service that is linked to his or her receiving an appropriate education is called " Presumptive Denial of Assistive Technology " and is ILLEGAL !!!! In 1990, the Federal government published a letter stating that: In brief, it is impermissible under EHA-B for public agencies (including school districts) " to presumptively deny assistive technology " to a child with handicaps before a determination is made as to whether such technology is an element of a free appropriate public education (FAPE) for that child. Thus, consideration of a child's need for assistive technology must occur on a case-by-case basis in connection with the development of a child's individualized education program (IEP). for a full copy of the letter, see http://www.listen-up.org/rights/osep4.htm Now, the question becomes, how hard do you want to fight it? In our case, even the best speech therapy through our school system really stunk. You can make them provide it, but unfortunately, you can't force them to be any good, or even qualified to teach HOH kids (as opposed to kids with lisps and other, more standard speech therapy issues). Really good speech therapy at Stanford was covered under our private insurance for a $10 co pay per visit. So rather than fighting that one, we went the private route instead. You can tell I've finally stopped throwing up now that I'm getting feisty again, eh guys? 21 weeks down, 17 to go . . . Sheri Re: Re: Early Intervention << Autumn, you mentioned that they turned you down for therapy for Brayden once, did you ever follow through with trying again? >> I did call again and they told me again that with unilateral hearing there was really no need for therapy. They told me his speech should develop normally. They told me once he was in school they would provide the FM systems and they seemed very up on that, so that will hopefully be one less fight ahead of me. I did however request an evaluation and they are supposed to get back to me?? Still waiting. Please tell me how your meeting goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 << Now, the question becomes, how hard do you want to fight it? In our case, even the best speech therapy through our school system really stunk. You can make them provide it, but unfortunately, you can't force them to be any good, or even qualified to teach HOH kids (as opposed to kids with lisps and other, more standard speech therapy issues). Really good speech therapy at Stanford was covered under our private insurance for a $10 co pay per visit. So rather than fighting that one, we went the private route instead. >> Thanks Sheri, You are wonderful with all of your knowledge. Your information is so helpful and valuable to us newer moms (and everyone I'm sure). I'm going to talk to Braydens ped about private speech therapy (outside the school system). Glad to hear you are feeling better. Wow, only 17 weeks to go, it's going to fly by. Enjoy your sleep now. ha ha. Autumn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 << Now, the question becomes, how hard do you want to fight it? In our case, even the best speech therapy through our school system really stunk. You can make them provide it, but unfortunately, you can't force them to be any good, or even qualified to teach HOH kids (as opposed to kids with lisps and other, more standard speech therapy issues). Really good speech therapy at Stanford was covered under our private insurance for a $10 co pay per visit. So rather than fighting that one, we went the private route instead. >> Thanks Sheri, You are wonderful with all of your knowledge. Your information is so helpful and valuable to us newer moms (and everyone I'm sure). I'm going to talk to Braydens ped about private speech therapy (outside the school system). Glad to hear you are feeling better. Wow, only 17 weeks to go, it's going to fly by. Enjoy your sleep now. ha ha. Autumn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 << Now, the question becomes, how hard do you want to fight it? In our case, even the best speech therapy through our school system really stunk. You can make them provide it, but unfortunately, you can't force them to be any good, or even qualified to teach HOH kids (as opposed to kids with lisps and other, more standard speech therapy issues). Really good speech therapy at Stanford was covered under our private insurance for a $10 co pay per visit. So rather than fighting that one, we went the private route instead. >> Thanks Sheri, You are wonderful with all of your knowledge. Your information is so helpful and valuable to us newer moms (and everyone I'm sure). I'm going to talk to Braydens ped about private speech therapy (outside the school system). Glad to hear you are feeling better. Wow, only 17 weeks to go, it's going to fly by. Enjoy your sleep now. ha ha. Autumn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 Let me know if you need any help. There is no reason why they shouldn't pay for an assessment. Sometimes they have limits on how many sessions you can get in a year, but when the tests say you need it and the child is HOH, usually you can get them to waive the limits under " medical necessity " . Even when speech therapy is explicitly excluded from insurance, you can sometimes get them to cover it under " medical necessity " (those are the key insurance buzz words :-) One recommendation I would make is to get the prescription for speech therapy assessment from Brayden's ENT and not a pediatrician. Insurance companies seem to regularly bounce these requests from pediatricians because it isn't in their specialty, where they will take the recommendation more seriously when originated by and ENT. Also have the ENT write into the prescription that it should be an SLP (Speech Language Pathologist) who works with HOH kids, not just any random SLP. Many SLPs just don't have the training to work on speech issues with HOH kids which are very different from speech issues in normally hearing children. Let me know how everything turns out. It is very hard work, but in the end it is worth it. I am very proud when people tell me that they do not realize how severe Patty's hearing impairment is because her speech is so good !!! When she was 3, she was almost unintelligible to everyone but her family, so a lot of good can be done with the right help. Sheri Re: Re: Early Intervention << Now, the question becomes, how hard do you want to fight it? In our case, even the best speech therapy through our school system really stunk. You can make them provide it, but unfortunately, you can't force them to be any good, or even qualified to teach HOH kids (as opposed to kids with lisps and other, more standard speech therapy issues). Really good speech therapy at Stanford was covered under our private insurance for a $10 co pay per visit. So rather than fighting that one, we went the private route instead. >> Thanks Sheri, You are wonderful with all of your knowledge. Your information is so helpful and valuable to us newer moms (and everyone I'm sure). I'm going to talk to Braydens ped about private speech therapy (outside the school system). Glad to hear you are feeling better. Wow, only 17 weeks to go, it's going to fly by. Enjoy your sleep now. ha ha. Autumn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 Let me know if you need any help. There is no reason why they shouldn't pay for an assessment. Sometimes they have limits on how many sessions you can get in a year, but when the tests say you need it and the child is HOH, usually you can get them to waive the limits under " medical necessity " . Even when speech therapy is explicitly excluded from insurance, you can sometimes get them to cover it under " medical necessity " (those are the key insurance buzz words :-) One recommendation I would make is to get the prescription for speech therapy assessment from Brayden's ENT and not a pediatrician. Insurance companies seem to regularly bounce these requests from pediatricians because it isn't in their specialty, where they will take the recommendation more seriously when originated by and ENT. Also have the ENT write into the prescription that it should be an SLP (Speech Language Pathologist) who works with HOH kids, not just any random SLP. Many SLPs just don't have the training to work on speech issues with HOH kids which are very different from speech issues in normally hearing children. Let me know how everything turns out. It is very hard work, but in the end it is worth it. I am very proud when people tell me that they do not realize how severe Patty's hearing impairment is because her speech is so good !!! When she was 3, she was almost unintelligible to everyone but her family, so a lot of good can be done with the right help. Sheri Re: Re: Early Intervention << Now, the question becomes, how hard do you want to fight it? In our case, even the best speech therapy through our school system really stunk. You can make them provide it, but unfortunately, you can't force them to be any good, or even qualified to teach HOH kids (as opposed to kids with lisps and other, more standard speech therapy issues). Really good speech therapy at Stanford was covered under our private insurance for a $10 co pay per visit. So rather than fighting that one, we went the private route instead. >> Thanks Sheri, You are wonderful with all of your knowledge. Your information is so helpful and valuable to us newer moms (and everyone I'm sure). I'm going to talk to Braydens ped about private speech therapy (outside the school system). Glad to hear you are feeling better. Wow, only 17 weeks to go, it's going to fly by. Enjoy your sleep now. ha ha. Autumn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 Let me know if you need any help. There is no reason why they shouldn't pay for an assessment. Sometimes they have limits on how many sessions you can get in a year, but when the tests say you need it and the child is HOH, usually you can get them to waive the limits under " medical necessity " . Even when speech therapy is explicitly excluded from insurance, you can sometimes get them to cover it under " medical necessity " (those are the key insurance buzz words :-) One recommendation I would make is to get the prescription for speech therapy assessment from Brayden's ENT and not a pediatrician. Insurance companies seem to regularly bounce these requests from pediatricians because it isn't in their specialty, where they will take the recommendation more seriously when originated by and ENT. Also have the ENT write into the prescription that it should be an SLP (Speech Language Pathologist) who works with HOH kids, not just any random SLP. Many SLPs just don't have the training to work on speech issues with HOH kids which are very different from speech issues in normally hearing children. Let me know how everything turns out. It is very hard work, but in the end it is worth it. I am very proud when people tell me that they do not realize how severe Patty's hearing impairment is because her speech is so good !!! When she was 3, she was almost unintelligible to everyone but her family, so a lot of good can be done with the right help. Sheri Re: Re: Early Intervention << Now, the question becomes, how hard do you want to fight it? In our case, even the best speech therapy through our school system really stunk. You can make them provide it, but unfortunately, you can't force them to be any good, or even qualified to teach HOH kids (as opposed to kids with lisps and other, more standard speech therapy issues). Really good speech therapy at Stanford was covered under our private insurance for a $10 co pay per visit. So rather than fighting that one, we went the private route instead. >> Thanks Sheri, You are wonderful with all of your knowledge. Your information is so helpful and valuable to us newer moms (and everyone I'm sure). I'm going to talk to Braydens ped about private speech therapy (outside the school system). Glad to hear you are feeling better. Wow, only 17 weeks to go, it's going to fly by. Enjoy your sleep now. ha ha. Autumn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2002 Report Share Posted February 20, 2002 << Let me know how everything turns out. It is very hard work, but in the end it is worth it. >> I just heard back from the Early Intervention program with the school district. They are coming to our house next week for an evaluation. It will be a pathologist, psychologist, and the early childhood coordinator. I think they are doing it just to keep me quiet. I don't think he will qualify for the program. I just want to make sure. Has anyone/or anyones child with unilateral hearing required speech therapy? I'd like to hear about your experience. Thanks Autumn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2002 Report Share Posted February 20, 2002 << Let me know how everything turns out. It is very hard work, but in the end it is worth it. >> I just heard back from the Early Intervention program with the school district. They are coming to our house next week for an evaluation. It will be a pathologist, psychologist, and the early childhood coordinator. I think they are doing it just to keep me quiet. I don't think he will qualify for the program. I just want to make sure. Has anyone/or anyones child with unilateral hearing required speech therapy? I'd like to hear about your experience. Thanks Autumn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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