Re: Does Anyone else?

[Guest guest]

No offense taken at all, TJ! I know LOTS of people who have sought

counselors, and it didn't work! It depends on a lot of stuff, for sure, for it

to work!

In that case, would it help to tell the boys during a family meal, that since

they don't want to listen to you and help you, that they can be responsible

for their own laundry, and take their turn at making meals. Then I would quit

doing all their laundry or helping them out in stuff that they can handle

themselves, but probably expect and enjoy you doing...but don't appreciate it!

They need to see all you do, and how important it is, how time consuming it all

is, and how painful it can be for you. I'm not sure how you get that across

to them - I'm far from being an expert on child rearing, that's for sure! I

will certainly keep you in my prayers, as I know how painful it can be! Sorry I

can't be of more help.

Love Lana

" 'Be who you are and say what you feel because those

who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.' "

Dr. Suess

[Guest guest]

Oh by the way- the youngest is now seeing a counselor that has not contacted me-

he lives with his dad- not because he wants to but because the courts are insane

here in Tuscola County, Michigan and they are allowing him to have custody when

in reality its just messed up- Ive done nothing to deserve this nor has the

child........ so back to the point here- he is seeing one due to school

recommending he does but the counselor wont contact ME- I have called several

times- courts say its fine- she doesnt need to INVOLVE me....... ???????????????

I shouldnt have said anything, I am sorry- please everyone just ignore what I

wrote- I took both boys by myself to counseling when their dad walked out the

door due to the settlement money on the death of Kenny- and I fought tooth and

nail to get the boys a fair amount of that money - and he got custody of both at

the time ( they stated I was too over protective ?) but even though the age

limit here for choosing is 18, (16) got kicked out of school over a dumb

dream- and then ran from his dads to here- he see's all the crap his dad is

doing- he wont even speak to the guy........ I am homeschooling him and ken

didnt fight to get him back, guess he's afraid of the kid......... but yet last

hearing threatened that if he had to pay child support he'd see to it that john

was removed and put in another type of home....... which the courts are on his

side, its all biasy as I see it, long story- but anyhow I dont want the creeps

money............. and I made that quite clear........... but...........

The friend of the court is saying its wrong so there is another hearing over the

last hearing but this time due to the friend of the court soooooooooooooo end

result may be they will say he has to pay child support - and then another

battle will begin because he's not going to want to pay anything, he is greedy-

and all of this mess began from money to begin with....... So- Until Feb 3rd- I

have no idea what the next move is.

did see a counselor and had mental evaluation done at the force of his dad-

he thought it so wrong that the kid would want to live with his OWN mother! and

that all turned on Ken- the kid is fine......... and they did not suggest more

counseling and I know it wouldnt help him anyhow- he wouldnt do anything

suggested.

Anyhow I shouldnt have written....... Please ignore it, because I wrote that at

wits end and counseling suggestions just get my goat more because I've tried

that already and it didnt help.............. nothing personal against you

lana........ its just one thing that most suggest and knowing it has been tried

several times and not worked its like ughhhhhhhhhhh......... I am off to remove

myself before I have possibly caused a problem here............ I sure did not

mean to.............. Take care all/

Re: Does Anyone else?

Hi TJ,

I feel very badly for you! I would strongly suggest you try to find a

counselor for all of you. If you can't afford one, there are places that I'm

sure

would see you for free. Have you ever tried counseling??

Love Lana

" 'Be who you are and say what you feel because those

who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.' "

Dr. Suess

[Guest guest]

Oh by the way- the youngest is now seeing a counselor that has not contacted me-

he lives with his dad- not because he wants to but because the courts are insane

here in Tuscola County, Michigan and they are allowing him to have custody when

in reality its just messed up- Ive done nothing to deserve this nor has the

child........ so back to the point here- he is seeing one due to school

recommending he does but the counselor wont contact ME- I have called several

times- courts say its fine- she doesnt need to INVOLVE me....... ???????????????

I shouldnt have said anything, I am sorry- please everyone just ignore what I

wrote- I took both boys by myself to counseling when their dad walked out the

door due to the settlement money on the death of Kenny- and I fought tooth and

nail to get the boys a fair amount of that money - and he got custody of both at

the time ( they stated I was too over protective ?) but even though the age

limit here for choosing is 18, (16) got kicked out of school over a dumb

dream- and then ran from his dads to here- he see's all the crap his dad is

doing- he wont even speak to the guy........ I am homeschooling him and ken

didnt fight to get him back, guess he's afraid of the kid......... but yet last

hearing threatened that if he had to pay child support he'd see to it that john

was removed and put in another type of home....... which the courts are on his

side, its all biasy as I see it, long story- but anyhow I dont want the creeps

money............. and I made that quite clear........... but...........

The friend of the court is saying its wrong so there is another hearing over the

last hearing but this time due to the friend of the court soooooooooooooo end

result may be they will say he has to pay child support - and then another

battle will begin because he's not going to want to pay anything, he is greedy-

and all of this mess began from money to begin with....... So- Until Feb 3rd- I

have no idea what the next move is.

did see a counselor and had mental evaluation done at the force of his dad-

he thought it so wrong that the kid would want to live with his OWN mother! and

that all turned on Ken- the kid is fine......... and they did not suggest more

counseling and I know it wouldnt help him anyhow- he wouldnt do anything

suggested.

Anyhow I shouldnt have written....... Please ignore it, because I wrote that at

wits end and counseling suggestions just get my goat more because I've tried

that already and it didnt help.............. nothing personal against you

lana........ its just one thing that most suggest and knowing it has been tried

several times and not worked its like ughhhhhhhhhhh......... I am off to remove

myself before I have possibly caused a problem here............ I sure did not

mean to.............. Take care all/

Re: Does Anyone else?

Hi TJ,

I feel very badly for you! I would strongly suggest you try to find a

counselor for all of you. If you can't afford one, there are places that I'm

sure

would see you for free. Have you ever tried counseling??

Love Lana

" 'Be who you are and say what you feel because those

who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.' "

Dr. Suess

[Guest guest]

I wrote this before I read your 2nd post about how you first wrote in the heat

of the moment. I know, I've done that many times, but, I still want to send

this. As for the therapy, don't do it if it hasn't helped. You sometimes have

to go through a lot of different people to find the right one, but you may be

sick of trying to find the right one.

Anyway, there are things you can do yourself. And, I know they can work, cause

my dad has done them. Not just what I mention below either. My dad has been

through numerous therapist, counselors, psychologist, psychiatrist, etc., and he

says he will never go to another one. I understand this. You CAN help yourself

in so many ways. I do say that you can't do it alone, meaning you can't just

sit around and not do anything. You can get help from others, in tapes, and

books. If you can't stand the thought of another therapist, then try something

else.

I will get the names of some tapes and books that have helped my dad, if you

would like. It couldn't hurt, and it just may help. And, it's better than

doing nothing.

I know exactly how the stress from the kids affects pain. I deal with it all

the time. In fact, I'm sure that my pain is worse from stress. I too believe

my kids are testing what they can get away with cause I'm not well. I try to

reason with them, but it doesn't work. I even smacked my daughter last week.

That was very upsetting to me - and her. But, when you don't feel well, and

they are pulling that crap, what are you to do? You are not superwoman!!!!

I can't believe what my kids do and say sometimes. They are basically good

kids, but man, can they blow it sometimes! It seems to go in waves at my house.

My girls are under a lot of stress now because of their health problems. The

anxiety in our house has hit the roof. My daughters lost a very good friend

last year (1 year exactly on Tuesday). This has added to their stress. Nobody

really knows how to deal with it, but I think it's even harder for kids. They

seem to act out more when they've had to deal with a tragic event. It's almost

like they don't know what to feel, so they get angry.

What can you do? All you can do is tell them when they are wrong and get them

psychological help.

Aside from that, you have to try to take care of yourself.

I am now taking a Mind/Body Clinic class through my health care office. They

are teaching us this very thing - that stress makes everyone's health problem so

much worse. It makes pain worse.

I have only had one class so far. There are 9 to go.

But, In the very first class, they gave us a relaxation tape that we signed a

contract to listen to for at least 20 minutes every day. They taught us how to

sit and relax. They know that a lot of people with health problems and chronic

pain can't just go out for a walk.

What they first taught us is this -

Sit in a comfortable quiet place (don't lay down, or you will probably fall

asleep). Close your eyes. Concentrate on your breathing. You may want to put

your hand on your belly to remind you, and to make sure you are breathing fully.

Lay your hands in your lap palm up (this is a physical thing that sort of

reminds your brain that it's time to meditate).

When you breath in, think of a work that is relaxing. My word is " calm " .

When you breath out, think of another word, or use the same word. My word is

" free " (for " pain free " but I didn't want to put that negative word in). I

imagine that I am blowing the pain out of my body.

This takes a lot of practice for most people. Just keep doing it. You may fall

asleep at first. That's ok. You may not be able to get all the crap out of

your mind at first. That's ok too. Just keep trying it every day. Try it when

you lay down to go to sleep too. You may think it's not gonna work. But just

keep doing it every day. Eventually, it will get easier.

There are many relaxation tapes available to buy. I'm sure Amazon has a lot.

Some are called hypnotherapy tapes. There is a guy called kson, who when he

was alive, pioneered self hypnosis. He was a paraplegic his whole life from

polio. He taught himself how to use his arms by watching his baby brother. He

spent his whole life in terrible pain. He taught himself hypnotherapy, and was

able to live the life he wanted, even though he was bound to a wheelchair.

Anyway, you could get one of those tapes, or get a music tape that is very

relaxing to you. Or, you could just do it in utter silence. I know that may be

hard with the kids, but do it when they are in school, or when you go to bed.

I'm finding it very hard to do because I keep falling asleep when I try. I have

been able to do it in the past without falling asleep, so I know I can do it.

But, My way to deal with stress has always been to sleep. I get stressed, I go

to bed. I'm still trying though.

You may even want to find someone to help you do this. There are some great

therapists who can help you with it, if you want.

My dad has been doing this for a while now, and has cut his pain meds in half.

His anxiety is much less. He is agoraphobic, and can barely leave the house,

but he isn't as anxious throughout the day. He has had this for about 35 years,

so it's quite a challenge.

I know how you feel - things would be easier if I would die. But I know you

don't want to. You wouldn't have written your post if you did. If you are

worried about that, you need to get help. Your feelings are so understandable.

I've been there, so I know how it feels. I haven't lost a child, so I can't say

I know how that feels. I can only imagine. I do know the desperation of your

situation with your pain and your kids, though. You need help. You can't do it

alone. Again, you aren't superwoman. I have put off therapy for so long, cause

I don't want to deal with all the old crap in my life. But, I just started it

because my dr wanted me to, and I'm at the point where I'll do anything to get

better. I'm so sick and tired of being sick and tired. You've heard that

saying, I'm sure.

I think you should call your parents for help. Wouldn't you want your child to

call you for help if they needed it? Just do it!

As for your ex, well, I know it's hard, but try not to listen to him. Try not

to even talk to him.

Your kids will have to stop. Maybe your parents can talk with them? I don't

know. I know how hard it is trying to deal with teenagers. They think they are

so right in everything, never willing to admit they may be wrong. Someone has

to tell them straight out that mom is gonna end up in the hospital if they don't

cut out all their crap. And if it takes calling the police, then so be it.

Maybe that would be a good idea next time they start hitting each other. Call

the cops and say they are fighting. Maybe it will scare them enough to get some

sense knocked in their heads.

They are acting out, maybe because that's often what kids do when they have

major grown up things they have to deal with. They need help too.

You have probably already gotten them help, and I think you said once before you

have a therapist.

You are not the only one who has to deal with pain, and crap from the kids. I'm

right there with you on that one. I'm so sorry, and I hope things will settle

down. I also hope I haven't offended you with my swearing! I get so angry with

my daughters when they swear, that I swear at them to stop it. How stupid is

that? Then I apologize for swearing at them. It's just the most ridiculous

thing ever!

I think " how much does a person have to go through and deal with before they

have a nervous breakdown? " I've had more than my share, and I still haven't

broken down.

Neither have you, (and you've been through hell and back) and you can thank your

faith in God for that.

[Guest guest]

I wrote this before I read your 2nd post about how you first wrote in the heat

of the moment. I know, I've done that many times, but, I still want to send

this. As for the therapy, don't do it if it hasn't helped. You sometimes have

to go through a lot of different people to find the right one, but you may be

sick of trying to find the right one.

Anyway, there are things you can do yourself. And, I know they can work, cause

my dad has done them. Not just what I mention below either. My dad has been

through numerous therapist, counselors, psychologist, psychiatrist, etc., and he

says he will never go to another one. I understand this. You CAN help yourself

in so many ways. I do say that you can't do it alone, meaning you can't just

sit around and not do anything. You can get help from others, in tapes, and

books. If you can't stand the thought of another therapist, then try something

else.

I will get the names of some tapes and books that have helped my dad, if you

would like. It couldn't hurt, and it just may help. And, it's better than

doing nothing.

I know exactly how the stress from the kids affects pain. I deal with it all

the time. In fact, I'm sure that my pain is worse from stress. I too believe

my kids are testing what they can get away with cause I'm not well. I try to

reason with them, but it doesn't work. I even smacked my daughter last week.

That was very upsetting to me - and her. But, when you don't feel well, and

they are pulling that crap, what are you to do? You are not superwoman!!!!

I can't believe what my kids do and say sometimes. They are basically good

kids, but man, can they blow it sometimes! It seems to go in waves at my house.

My girls are under a lot of stress now because of their health problems. The

anxiety in our house has hit the roof. My daughters lost a very good friend

last year (1 year exactly on Tuesday). This has added to their stress. Nobody

really knows how to deal with it, but I think it's even harder for kids. They

seem to act out more when they've had to deal with a tragic event. It's almost

like they don't know what to feel, so they get angry.

What can you do? All you can do is tell them when they are wrong and get them

psychological help.

Aside from that, you have to try to take care of yourself.

I am now taking a Mind/Body Clinic class through my health care office. They

are teaching us this very thing - that stress makes everyone's health problem so

much worse. It makes pain worse.

I have only had one class so far. There are 9 to go.

But, In the very first class, they gave us a relaxation tape that we signed a

contract to listen to for at least 20 minutes every day. They taught us how to

sit and relax. They know that a lot of people with health problems and chronic

pain can't just go out for a walk.

What they first taught us is this -

Sit in a comfortable quiet place (don't lay down, or you will probably fall

asleep). Close your eyes. Concentrate on your breathing. You may want to put

your hand on your belly to remind you, and to make sure you are breathing fully.

Lay your hands in your lap palm up (this is a physical thing that sort of

reminds your brain that it's time to meditate).

When you breath in, think of a work that is relaxing. My word is " calm " .

When you breath out, think of another word, or use the same word. My word is

" free " (for " pain free " but I didn't want to put that negative word in). I

imagine that I am blowing the pain out of my body.

This takes a lot of practice for most people. Just keep doing it. You may fall

asleep at first. That's ok. You may not be able to get all the crap out of

your mind at first. That's ok too. Just keep trying it every day. Try it when

you lay down to go to sleep too. You may think it's not gonna work. But just

keep doing it every day. Eventually, it will get easier.

There are many relaxation tapes available to buy. I'm sure Amazon has a lot.

Some are called hypnotherapy tapes. There is a guy called kson, who when he

was alive, pioneered self hypnosis. He was a paraplegic his whole life from

polio. He taught himself how to use his arms by watching his baby brother. He

spent his whole life in terrible pain. He taught himself hypnotherapy, and was

able to live the life he wanted, even though he was bound to a wheelchair.

Anyway, you could get one of those tapes, or get a music tape that is very

relaxing to you. Or, you could just do it in utter silence. I know that may be

hard with the kids, but do it when they are in school, or when you go to bed.

I'm finding it very hard to do because I keep falling asleep when I try. I have

been able to do it in the past without falling asleep, so I know I can do it.

But, My way to deal with stress has always been to sleep. I get stressed, I go

to bed. I'm still trying though.

You may even want to find someone to help you do this. There are some great

therapists who can help you with it, if you want.

My dad has been doing this for a while now, and has cut his pain meds in half.

His anxiety is much less. He is agoraphobic, and can barely leave the house,

but he isn't as anxious throughout the day. He has had this for about 35 years,

so it's quite a challenge.

I know how you feel - things would be easier if I would die. But I know you

don't want to. You wouldn't have written your post if you did. If you are

worried about that, you need to get help. Your feelings are so understandable.

I've been there, so I know how it feels. I haven't lost a child, so I can't say

I know how that feels. I can only imagine. I do know the desperation of your

situation with your pain and your kids, though. You need help. You can't do it

alone. Again, you aren't superwoman. I have put off therapy for so long, cause

I don't want to deal with all the old crap in my life. But, I just started it

because my dr wanted me to, and I'm at the point where I'll do anything to get

better. I'm so sick and tired of being sick and tired. You've heard that

saying, I'm sure.

I think you should call your parents for help. Wouldn't you want your child to

call you for help if they needed it? Just do it!

As for your ex, well, I know it's hard, but try not to listen to him. Try not

to even talk to him.

Your kids will have to stop. Maybe your parents can talk with them? I don't

know. I know how hard it is trying to deal with teenagers. They think they are

so right in everything, never willing to admit they may be wrong. Someone has

to tell them straight out that mom is gonna end up in the hospital if they don't

cut out all their crap. And if it takes calling the police, then so be it.

Maybe that would be a good idea next time they start hitting each other. Call

the cops and say they are fighting. Maybe it will scare them enough to get some

sense knocked in their heads.

They are acting out, maybe because that's often what kids do when they have

major grown up things they have to deal with. They need help too.

You have probably already gotten them help, and I think you said once before you

have a therapist.

You are not the only one who has to deal with pain, and crap from the kids. I'm

right there with you on that one. I'm so sorry, and I hope things will settle

down. I also hope I haven't offended you with my swearing! I get so angry with

my daughters when they swear, that I swear at them to stop it. How stupid is

that? Then I apologize for swearing at them. It's just the most ridiculous

thing ever!

I think " how much does a person have to go through and deal with before they

have a nervous breakdown? " I've had more than my share, and I still haven't

broken down.

Neither have you, (and you've been through hell and back) and you can thank your

faith in God for that.

[Guest guest]

2 more things -

I can tell that just by writing all that down and sending it to the board, it

made you feel a little better.

I do this also. I don't always send things to the board though. I write things

down, and then I feel better.

After my grandma died, I couldn't deal with it. I started writing. I ended up

with a mini novel. With dialog and everything. After I read it a few times, I

tore it up and threw it away.

It really helps.

Also -

Maybe you could print out what you wrote to the board, and accidentaly leave it

somewhere that the boys would see it.

That may shock them into trying to behave a little more.

Good luck,

and Big hugs. Hang in there, and keep praying.

Mon

[Guest guest]

Hi

I am so sorry for all you are going through (and it really seems so much for

one person) My advice to you is to get some counselling if you are able.

Maybe for the kids as well. Its good to hear that you're faith is strong, I

am still working on that after losing my 13 year old son 8 months ago and

then finding out I have Type IV sometimes it does get so overwhelming at

times. Thats what is good about this list ....its a great sounding board,

however if you have friends, a minister or counsellor --talk talk talk. Hope

this helps. My prayers are with you .

Betty

Does Anyone else?

> I know I dont say a whole lot here on the board- but I do read all that

goes through......

>

> I am experiencing severe pain and am on quite a few medications.......

which - to me- means- I shouldn't be so miserable........ Don't get me

wrong- I know it could be much worse........

>

> My EDS is type IV-and after all the surgeries etc that I've been through-

which the information was on my site that I posted a while ago- ( the one

with cell phone damage) ....

>

> I am on morphine, lorcet, wellbutrin, high blood pressure pill,, water

pill, and a fewother things but must say- none help when STRESS IS

HIGH....... I most times can handle stress but once I get the stress

problem out of my mind- it goes to body parts - it seems........

>

> My biggest stressor today is something we all have to deal with ( I think

? ) if we have kids. I have a 16 yr old and 11 yr old boy....... I can be

getting around just fine with cane/or furniture but if these 2 start in with

their bickering on top of all the other stressors- one being housebound for

2 years- not being able to go outside for a walk to walk off the stress or

even go for a drive because I cant drive now - ugh.......... I resort to

showers- web site making, sleep to relieve stress......

>

> What I really want to know is- does this happen to others? I can be

gettin around almost normally and when those 2 go at it, big time downfall-

I am flat on my rear end for the rest of the day as my legs and body become

so drenched in pain from the stress of their arguing and I instantly want to

just close my eyes and go to sleep but cant due to the pain....... I end up

on an amigo or wheelchair to get around and its basically from hollering at

those 2.

>

> The disgusting language they use...... they know its not allowed - yet I

feel they tend to test to the max even more because Mom is ill and they know

Mom cant really do a whole lot of damage to them ( like chase them around

and force them to sit etc )........ I am at wit's end.......

> Tattling on eachother for swearing- yet swearing themselves..............

mercy..........

>

> And my 11 yr old is a pretty good candidate in my eyes to have EDS as he

is fair skinned and bruises easily too which Ive mentioned before but he's

brave- he smacks the older one - the older one smacks him and I have

explained to the older one ( not in front of the younger one ) that he needs

to NOT HIT and just walk away- go to his room- anything to get away from

eachother.......because he could possibly cause the younger one a lot more

damage than he thinks ......

>

> Both know they lost a 12 year old brother to aneurysm on kidney - yet does

this cross either ones mind when they are smacking eachother and hollering

bad language etc......

>

> Im divorced, live with the older child but the younger one is here often

as unjustifiably he was taken from moms care and placed in his dads care

whom wants nothing except for me to have a miserable life, even to the point

of calling me a faker etc when I even had a hole in my leg! I do have my

parents - a field away- but why should I have to constantly call for

help......

>

> What will make these 2 understand they are tearing mom apart? They see me

go from walkin to kitchen with cane to being almost not able to move and

having to resort to the scooter or wheelchair and still it does not seem to

wake them up!

>

> I asked them - is it going to take me being hospitalized or what to make

you boys see that all this bickering is really hurting your mother!

>

> Please tell me Im not alone!

>

> I've not said it outloud- but - when this goes on - I think death would be

better!!!!!!!!!!! And of course say to myself ( I HATE MY LIFE )....

>

> Sorry for ranting on about this, Im at wits end and drained.......... Ive

done everything- seperating them- grounding etc.......... whats left to do

beside end up in an insane asylum.............. I have divorce/custody

problems to deal with- trying to get SSI problems- etc......... how much am

I suppsed to take.................. Thank God for my faith in HIM, if I

didnt have that- I dont know what I'd do..........

>

> A mom with EDS at wits End-

> TJ

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

I am so sorry for all you are going through (and it really seems so much for

one person) My advice to you is to get some counselling if you are able.

Maybe for the kids as well. Its good to hear that you're faith is strong, I

am still working on that after losing my 13 year old son 8 months ago and

then finding out I have Type IV sometimes it does get so overwhelming at

times. Thats what is good about this list ....its a great sounding board,

however if you have friends, a minister or counsellor --talk talk talk. Hope

this helps. My prayers are with you .

Betty

Does Anyone else?

> I know I dont say a whole lot here on the board- but I do read all that

goes through......

>

> I am experiencing severe pain and am on quite a few medications.......

which - to me- means- I shouldn't be so miserable........ Don't get me

wrong- I know it could be much worse........

>

> My EDS is type IV-and after all the surgeries etc that I've been through-

which the information was on my site that I posted a while ago- ( the one

with cell phone damage) ....

>

> I am on morphine, lorcet, wellbutrin, high blood pressure pill,, water

pill, and a fewother things but must say- none help when STRESS IS

HIGH....... I most times can handle stress but once I get the stress

problem out of my mind- it goes to body parts - it seems........

>

> My biggest stressor today is something we all have to deal with ( I think

? ) if we have kids. I have a 16 yr old and 11 yr old boy....... I can be

getting around just fine with cane/or furniture but if these 2 start in with

their bickering on top of all the other stressors- one being housebound for

2 years- not being able to go outside for a walk to walk off the stress or

even go for a drive because I cant drive now - ugh.......... I resort to

showers- web site making, sleep to relieve stress......

>

> What I really want to know is- does this happen to others? I can be

gettin around almost normally and when those 2 go at it, big time downfall-

I am flat on my rear end for the rest of the day as my legs and body become

so drenched in pain from the stress of their arguing and I instantly want to

just close my eyes and go to sleep but cant due to the pain....... I end up

on an amigo or wheelchair to get around and its basically from hollering at

those 2.

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> The disgusting language they use...... they know its not allowed - yet I

feel they tend to test to the max even more because Mom is ill and they know

Mom cant really do a whole lot of damage to them ( like chase them around

and force them to sit etc )........ I am at wit's end.......

> Tattling on eachother for swearing- yet swearing themselves..............

mercy..........

>

> And my 11 yr old is a pretty good candidate in my eyes to have EDS as he

is fair skinned and bruises easily too which Ive mentioned before but he's

brave- he smacks the older one - the older one smacks him and I have

explained to the older one ( not in front of the younger one ) that he needs

to NOT HIT and just walk away- go to his room- anything to get away from

eachother.......because he could possibly cause the younger one a lot more

damage than he thinks ......

>

> Both know they lost a 12 year old brother to aneurysm on kidney - yet does

this cross either ones mind when they are smacking eachother and hollering

bad language etc......

>

> Im divorced, live with the older child but the younger one is here often

as unjustifiably he was taken from moms care and placed in his dads care

whom wants nothing except for me to have a miserable life, even to the point

of calling me a faker etc when I even had a hole in my leg! I do have my

parents - a field away- but why should I have to constantly call for

help......

>

> What will make these 2 understand they are tearing mom apart? They see me

go from walkin to kitchen with cane to being almost not able to move and

having to resort to the scooter or wheelchair and still it does not seem to

wake them up!

>

> I asked them - is it going to take me being hospitalized or what to make

you boys see that all this bickering is really hurting your mother!

>

> Please tell me Im not alone!

>

> I've not said it outloud- but - when this goes on - I think death would be

better!!!!!!!!!!! And of course say to myself ( I HATE MY LIFE )....

>

> Sorry for ranting on about this, Im at wits end and drained.......... Ive

done everything- seperating them- grounding etc.......... whats left to do

beside end up in an insane asylum.............. I have divorce/custody

problems to deal with- trying to get SSI problems- etc......... how much am

I suppsed to take.................. Thank God for my faith in HIM, if I

didnt have that- I dont know what I'd do..........

>

> A mom with EDS at wits End-

> TJ

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