Guest guest Posted January 15, 2004 Report Share Posted January 15, 2004 Hi Stacey -- I'm so sorry to hear about your knee. I have not had this done but I'm sure there are many on the list who can answer your questions. I'm sorry it doesn't seem the counsellor is going to be of help to you. I think a good counsellor would work with you to find out what tools would help you deal with your feelings and work thru them. Everyone is different and what tools work for one, may not work for you - you may need a different approach. I hope you can keep looking for help in this area and find someone you can trust. Take care, Love, Patti bursectomy Hi Everyone Went to my OS appointment and the outcome wasnt really a pleasant one. went to see the consellor today and I dont think its really going to help me. To learn more about EDS, visit our website: http://www.ceda.ca ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2004 Report Share Posted January 15, 2004 Stacey - Maybe you should look for a different phsycologist. Sometimes it takes a while to find just the right one for you. I know, this doesn't sound like fun, but just telling you to find something you like to do, and leaving it at that - well - she isn't really doing her job. If it were that easy, you wouldn't have the problem in the first place. Overwhelming bad feelings don't go away by getting a hobby. She sounds like she may be in the wrong profession! I have just had one appt so far with a psycologist. He just spent the time getting to know me. I don't know how it's gonna turn out, but I'm gonna give it a go. I'm not too wild about the idea of therapy for myself, but I've gotten to the point where I'll try anything to feel better. You may not want to go looking for someone else right now, but just keep it open as an option. Maybe in a little while you'll want to try again. Hugs, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2004 Report Share Posted January 15, 2004 Stacey: I have been taking Glucosamine and Chondroitin since september now and it was the brand recommended by the OS/intern and it hasnt seemed to improve anything. Mike: I just looked for my copy of " The Arthritis Cure " by Theodakis and can't find it. I think I loaned it to one of my relatives and haven't gotten it back yet. At any rate, he lists brands that are good and work and others that he feels don't have the proper concentration. Since this is one book I like to have around for reference, I will probably see about picking up a new copy of it tomorrow. If you can tell me which brand you are using, I can check it for you. Also, there is no set pattern on how fast people notice results. Getting results in less than a month in my case was unusually quick. Most people generally need three to four months before they notice a difference. And it doesn't work on all types of arthritis. It generally gets good results for osteoarthritis but doesn't work at all for rheumatoid arthritis. Stacey: There is no swelling in my knee at all (Kinda confuses the OS) just the inflammed / thikened bursa. He didnt think that drainage would help as the bursa already seems to diminish and grow for no reason what so ever. Mike: I think we may be talking about two different kinds of drainage here. It sounds like you are getting a fluid build-up in the joint capsule that then drains by itself as opposed to a physical thickening and shrinkage of the actual bursa. Is your OS referring to a drainage where they go in with a needle/syringe and suck it out like a turkey baster? In other words, where they physically remove fluid from the joint? My reference was to lymphatic drainage therapy or manual lymphatic drainage where a therapist manually stimulates the lymph nodes above the spot and then uses a very gentle pumping motion with the hands on the body to stimulate the lymphatic flow. These are two completely different things. LDT or MLD can help reduce the inflammation even if there is no actual swelling. It can really help if there is a fluid build-up and actual swelling. I can literally reduce the swelling in a sprain faster with my hands using LDT than from using ice, and have done so on several occasions. And while I said " a therapist manually stimulates, " this is actually something that anyone can fairly easily and quickly learn how to do on and for themselves for basic work. When we got rear-ended in October, my left shoulder was sprained so bad that I couldn't raise my left arm above parallel to the ground. I did LDT and Polarity on myself and was basically pain-free with fully restored range of motion in the shoulder in less than 48 hours. Stacey: I will have to look into the polarity, is there certain points that I should be looking/feeling for? Id say I would try it now but really have way too many thoughts running through my head so it probably wouldnt work Mike: If we were talking acupressure then yes, we would be talking about specific points. With polarity we are talking more of a broad area as opposed to specific points. The only thing you are really looking for is any spot that feels more tender to the touch than the rest of the area. Stacey: BTW Is the polarity thing like energy work? My boyfriend is really interested in that Mike: Like energy work? Stacey, polarity IS energy work! The most obvious reason that I have emphasized acupressure as much as I have is that I know that it works and it is an easy way to introduce people to the whole concept since most people have at least heard of it and they can try it on little things, a step or two at a time. But acupressure is just the starting point with some of this. Once I can get people trying it AND FEELING THE ENERGY FOR THEMSELVES, I can start to introduce a few other things that take it all to a whole new level. And I know of at least four or five out there on the list who are just about at that stage now. I can do a lot of neat things with just acupressure - but I can't move bones with it. I can and do move bones with polarity, and this ranges from vertebral subluxations to a couple of actual dislocations. And I am not talking about physically manipulating the limb or joint to do it. I am talking about just having my hands or fingers on the limb or joint and then letting the energy just do its own thing. I know it sounds impossible, but I can assure that it most definitely is possible. And I have done a couple of other things with energy the last few months that I am afraid to put in an open post to the full list for fear of having people tune me out because that would just be the final proof to them that I have gone completely around the bend mentally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2004 Report Share Posted January 15, 2004 Stacey: I have been taking Glucosamine and Chondroitin since september now and it was the brand recommended by the OS/intern and it hasnt seemed to improve anything. Mike: I just looked for my copy of " The Arthritis Cure " by Theodakis and can't find it. I think I loaned it to one of my relatives and haven't gotten it back yet. At any rate, he lists brands that are good and work and others that he feels don't have the proper concentration. Since this is one book I like to have around for reference, I will probably see about picking up a new copy of it tomorrow. If you can tell me which brand you are using, I can check it for you. Also, there is no set pattern on how fast people notice results. Getting results in less than a month in my case was unusually quick. Most people generally need three to four months before they notice a difference. And it doesn't work on all types of arthritis. It generally gets good results for osteoarthritis but doesn't work at all for rheumatoid arthritis. Stacey: There is no swelling in my knee at all (Kinda confuses the OS) just the inflammed / thikened bursa. He didnt think that drainage would help as the bursa already seems to diminish and grow for no reason what so ever. Mike: I think we may be talking about two different kinds of drainage here. It sounds like you are getting a fluid build-up in the joint capsule that then drains by itself as opposed to a physical thickening and shrinkage of the actual bursa. Is your OS referring to a drainage where they go in with a needle/syringe and suck it out like a turkey baster? In other words, where they physically remove fluid from the joint? My reference was to lymphatic drainage therapy or manual lymphatic drainage where a therapist manually stimulates the lymph nodes above the spot and then uses a very gentle pumping motion with the hands on the body to stimulate the lymphatic flow. These are two completely different things. LDT or MLD can help reduce the inflammation even if there is no actual swelling. It can really help if there is a fluid build-up and actual swelling. I can literally reduce the swelling in a sprain faster with my hands using LDT than from using ice, and have done so on several occasions. And while I said " a therapist manually stimulates, " this is actually something that anyone can fairly easily and quickly learn how to do on and for themselves for basic work. When we got rear-ended in October, my left shoulder was sprained so bad that I couldn't raise my left arm above parallel to the ground. I did LDT and Polarity on myself and was basically pain-free with fully restored range of motion in the shoulder in less than 48 hours. Stacey: I will have to look into the polarity, is there certain points that I should be looking/feeling for? Id say I would try it now but really have way too many thoughts running through my head so it probably wouldnt work Mike: If we were talking acupressure then yes, we would be talking about specific points. With polarity we are talking more of a broad area as opposed to specific points. The only thing you are really looking for is any spot that feels more tender to the touch than the rest of the area. Stacey: BTW Is the polarity thing like energy work? My boyfriend is really interested in that Mike: Like energy work? Stacey, polarity IS energy work! The most obvious reason that I have emphasized acupressure as much as I have is that I know that it works and it is an easy way to introduce people to the whole concept since most people have at least heard of it and they can try it on little things, a step or two at a time. But acupressure is just the starting point with some of this. Once I can get people trying it AND FEELING THE ENERGY FOR THEMSELVES, I can start to introduce a few other things that take it all to a whole new level. And I know of at least four or five out there on the list who are just about at that stage now. I can do a lot of neat things with just acupressure - but I can't move bones with it. I can and do move bones with polarity, and this ranges from vertebral subluxations to a couple of actual dislocations. And I am not talking about physically manipulating the limb or joint to do it. I am talking about just having my hands or fingers on the limb or joint and then letting the energy just do its own thing. I know it sounds impossible, but I can assure that it most definitely is possible. And I have done a couple of other things with energy the last few months that I am afraid to put in an open post to the full list for fear of having people tune me out because that would just be the final proof to them that I have gone completely around the bend mentally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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