Guest guest Posted August 24, 2002 Report Share Posted August 24, 2002 here is the link again..... you must first go to " microtia services " ...then to " photo albumn " - you just have to look around! HSC Plastic Surgery InfoCentre this link states that reconstruction to the ear " is usually started between 2 or 3 years of age " !! services>>microtia services>>reconstructive surgery Reconstructive Surgery The reconstructive surgery option involves only the plastic surgeon, and the plastics health care team. The first stage in microtia repairs is generally a rib cartilage graft to the ear. This is usually started between 2 to 3 years of age. Second stage repair, a cartilage outset with skin graft from the groin, is completed at least 6 months after the cartilage graft. First Stage Repair Second Stage Repair Back to top Last updated: Thursday, July 26, 2001 Disclaimer Copyright The Hospital for Sick Children is a health care, teaching and research centre dedicated exclusively to children; affiliated with the University of Toronto Copyright © 1999 - 2002 The Hospital for Sick Children. All rights reserved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2002 Report Share Posted August 24, 2002 << http://www.sickkids.on.ca/plasticsurgery/services/microtia_surgery.asp >> I took a look at the photos on this web site. Can I ask are those considered good results on the finished ear? I personally didn't think they looked that great. Is it just me? Autumn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2002 Report Share Posted August 24, 2002 Hello our son was born with unilateral microtia. I was looking into this web site and it was telling about the rib graft surgery.. them doing at 2-3 years of age? I havent heard of anyone doing it at that young of age. besides Dr. Reinisch in calif. but he uses the synthetic material.. Anyway i was just surprised and was wondering where is this hospital? Is it in Toronto and where is Toronto? Thankyou, --- kellyf@...> wrote: > > here is the link again..... you must first go to > " microtia services " ...then > to " photo albumn " - you just have to look around! > > > HSC Plastic Surgery InfoCentre > > > this link states that reconstruction to the ear " is > usually started between > 2 or 3 years of age " !! > http://www.sickkids.on.ca/plasticsurgery/services/microtia_surgery.asp " > HSC: Plastic Surgery InfoCentre services>>microtia services>>reconstructive surgery Reconstructive Surgery The reconstructive surgery option involves only the plastic surgeon, and the plastics health care team. The first stage in microtia repairs is generally a rib cartilage graft to the ear. This is usually started between 2 to 3 years of age. Second stage repair, a cartilage outset with skin graft from the groin, is completed at least 6 months after the cartilage graft. First Stage Repair Second Stage Repair Back to top Last updated: Thursday, July 26, 2001 Disclaimer & Copyright The Hospital for Sick Children is a health care, teaching and research centre dedicated exclusively to children; affiliated with the http://www.toronto.edu/ " >University of Toronto Copyright © 1999 - 2002 The Hospital for Sick Children. All rights reserved. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2002 Report Share Posted August 25, 2002 Different surgeons will of course yeild different results. This is why it is soooooo important for anyone to view before and after results from surgeons you are considering. Some will yeild results that are far better (or worse) than these. My personal opinion is that these results are poor, but this is what's out there and being performed everyday. Now go to Dr. Brent's site and Dr. Romo's and Dr. Thorne's, and research Dr. Nagata.....etc. and choose what's best for you or your child. Love, beth >From: FACTBERTE@... >Reply-To: AtresiaMicrotia >To: AtresiaMicrotia >Subject: Re: FW: HSC Plastic Surgery InfoCentre >Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 22:16:16 EDT > > > > ><< http://www.sickkids.on.ca/plasticsurgery/services/microtia_surgery.asp > >> > >I took a look at the photos on this web site. Can I ask are those >considered >good results on the finished ear? I personally didn't think they looked >that >great. Is it just me? >Autumn _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2002 Report Share Posted August 25, 2002 << thanks for agreeing autumn! i think they look awful - to be honest!!! >> Okay . I thought it was just me. I'm thinking if that's it I'm fine with what is there now. Autumn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2002 Report Share Posted August 25, 2002 hi tracy...toronto is in canada! where about do you live? kelly (s.a.) HSC Plastic Surgery InfoCentre > > > this link states that reconstruction to the ear " is > usually started between > 2 or 3 years of age " !! > http://www.sickkids.on.ca/plasticsurgery/services/microtia_surgery.asp " > HSC: Plastic Surgery InfoCentre services>>microtia services>>reconstructive surgery Reconstructive Surgery The reconstructive surgery option involves only the plastic surgeon, and the plastics health care team. The first stage in microtia repairs is generally a rib cartilage graft to the ear. This is usually started between 2 to 3 years of age. Second stage repair, a cartilage outset with skin graft from the groin, is completed at least 6 months after the cartilage graft. First Stage Repair Second Stage Repair Back to top Last updated: Thursday, July 26, 2001 Disclaimer & Copyright The Hospital for Sick Children is a health care, teaching and research centre dedicated exclusively to children; affiliated with the http://www.toronto.edu/ " >University of Toronto Copyright ) 1999 - 2002 The Hospital for Sick Children. All rights reserved. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2002 Report Share Posted August 25, 2002 thanks for agreeing autumn! i think they look awful - to be honest!!! kelly Re: FW: HSC Plastic Surgery InfoCentre << http://www.sickkids.on.ca/plasticsurgery/services/microtia_surgery.asp >> I took a look at the photos on this web site. Can I ask are those considered good results on the finished ear? I personally didn't think they looked that great. Is it just me? Autumn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2002 Report Share Posted August 25, 2002 Well, after spending 20 minutes looking for the pictures, I finally found them! Anyway, I must agree, I'm not pleased with what I saw either. To be perfectly honest, I have been telling Dr. Romo since the day his website debuted that some of HIS pictures didn't look that good either!. Many of them are quite old and do not truly depict the quality of Dr. Romo's talents as they appear now. I have always said that Evan could be on that page because if I was a parent checking out the pictures and I saw Evan's ear, I would be impressed (he keeps telling me that'll happen when he updates it! LOL) No ear is going to look perfect, these doctor's aren't God, but they should at least somewhat resemble the shape of the ear and be free of excess amounts of visible scar tissue. The final results also depend on what you have to work with in the first place. I know some children who have other syndromes in addition to microtia are not as easy to operate on as a child with no other syndrome. Again, it is SOOOO very important to view before and after pictures of the doctor that you are considering!!! Lynne FACTBERTE@... wrote: > > > > << > http://www.sickkids.on.ca/plasticsurgery/services/microtia_surgery.asp > >> > > I took a look at the photos on this web site. Can I ask are those > considered > good results on the finished ear? I personally didn't think they > looked that > great. Is it just me? > Autumn > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2002 Report Share Posted August 25, 2002 I am in Northern Idaho. Thanks for the info. --- kellyf@...> wrote: > hi tracy...toronto is in canada! where about do you > live? > > kelly (s.a.) > > HSC Plastic Surgery InfoCentre > > > > > > this link states that reconstruction to the ear > " is > > usually started between > > 2 or 3 years of age " !! > > > > HREF= " http://www.sickkids.on.ca/plasticsurgery/services/microtia_surgery.asp > " > > > > > HSC: Plastic Surgery InfoCentre > > > ALINK= " #FF0000 " BGCOLOR= " #FFFFFF " > onLoad= " MM_preloadImages('../images/staff2.gif') " > > > WIDTH= " 590 " > > > SRC= " /images/spacer.gif " WIDTH= " 590 " HEIGHT= " 1 " > BORDER= " 0 " > > > > > > > > SRC= " /images/titles/health_pros2.gif " WIDTH= " 383 " > HEIGHT= " 89 " BORDER= " 0 " > > SRC= " /images/titles/hsc-2.gif " WIDTH= " 207 " > HEIGHT= " 89 " > BORDER= " 0 " > > > > > > > > src= " ../../images/nav/home.gif " width= " 120 " > height= " 16 " border= " 0 " > > src= " ../../images/nav/new.gif " width= " 120 " > height= " 16 " > border= " 0 " > > src= " ../../images/nav/about.gif " width= " 120 " > height= " 16 " border= " 0 " > > src= " ../../images/nav/family.gif " width= " 120 " > height= " 16 " border= " 0 " > > src= " ../../images/nav/kids.gif " width= " 120 " > height= " 16 " border= " 0 " > > src= " ../../images/nav/hcp2.gif " width= " 120 " > height= " 27 " border= " 0 " > > src= " ../../images/nav/research.gif " width= " 120 " > height= " 16 " border= " 0 " > > src= " ../../images/nav/donatenav.gif " width= " 120 " > height= " 27 " border= " 0 " > > > src= " ../../images/nav/fund.gif " width= " 120 " > height= " 27 " border= " 0 " > > src= " ../../images/nav/partner.gif " width= " 120 " > height= " 16 " border= " 0 " > > src= " ../../images/nav/career.gif " width= " 120 " > height= " 27 " border= " 0 " > > src= " ../../images/nav/map.gif " width= " 120 " > height= " 16 " > border= " 0 " > > src= " ../../images/nav/search.jpg " width= " 120 " > height= " 16 " border= " 0 " > > height= " 111 " border= " 0 " > > > > SRC= " /images/spacer.gif " WIDTH= " 15 " HEIGHT= " 1 " > BORDER= " 0 " > > > HEIGHT= " 0 " > > > bordercolor= " #000000 " align= " center " > bgcolor= " #000000 " > cellspacing= " 0 " > > align= " center " > > valign= " middle " width= " 54 " nowrap> > width= " 54 " height= " 54 " > > > valign= " top " width= " 379 " > > src= " ../images/ntitle.gif " width= " 408 " height= " 34 " > align= " middle " > > > > align= " center " > > href= " ../default.asp " > onMouseOut= " MM_swapImgRestore() " > onMouseOver= " MM_swapImage('Image7','','../images/nmain2.gif',1) " > name= " Image7 " border= " 0 " src= " ../images/nmain1.gif " > width= " 40 " height= " 20 " alt= " main " > > src= " ../images/spacer.gif " width= " 25 " > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Hi everyone, I have read of many people having ear reconstruction by Drs. Brent (rib cartilage harvessting) and Romo (polyethylene). Two questions: Does anyone have experience with Dr. Thorne? And does Dr. Brent place the chest tubes in himself or does he have a pediatric cardiothoracic surgeon involved with these operations? OK - I actually have another question: Who does Dr. Nagata work with in TX and ?MA? I can't recall the other state that he trains people in. Thanks! Lili (mom of , bilateral microtia/atresia) Re: FW: HSC Plastic Surgery InfoCentre > >Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 22:16:16 EDT > > > > > > > > > ><< http://www.sickkids.on.ca/plasticsurgery/services/microtia_surgery.asp > > >> > > > >I took a look at the photos on this web site. Can I ask are those > >considered > >good results on the finished ear? I personally didn't think they looked > >that > >great. Is it just me? > >Autumn > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 I have read of many people having ear reconstruction by Drs. Brent (rib cartilage harvessting) and Romo (polyethylene). Two questions: Does anyone have experience with Dr. Thorne? And does Dr. Brent place the chest tubes in himself or does he have a pediatric cardiothoracic surgeon involved with these operations? hi lili there are no chest tubes in dr brent's surgery. he harvests some cartilage, the stuff between the ribs, from which he sculpts the new ear. he uses cartilage because...thats what ears are made of! he uses the patient's OWN cartilage so there is no problem with rejection. the scar becomes quite invisible in a couple of years. there are NO after effects of some missing rib cartilage. jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Hi Lili, Josh had his ear reconstreucted by Dr. Brent, however, I cannot answer your question as I have no idea. Not sure if that's good or bad If you call or e-mail him, I'm sure he will respond. Love, beth > >Reply-To: AtresiaMicrotia >To: AtresiaMicrotia > >Subject: Re: FW: HSC Plastic Surgery InfoCentre >Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 04:20:04 -0400 > >Hi everyone, > >I have read of many people having ear reconstruction by Drs. Brent (rib >cartilage harvessting) and Romo (polyethylene). Two questions: Does >anyone >have experience with Dr. Thorne? And does Dr. Brent place the chest tubes >in himself or does he have a pediatric cardiothoracic surgeon involved with >these operations? >OK - I actually have another question: Who does Dr. Nagata work with in TX >and ?MA? I can't recall the other state that he trains people in. > >Thanks! > >Lili (mom of , bilateral microtia/atresia) > > Re: FW: HSC Plastic Surgery InfoCentre > > >Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 22:16:16 EDT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ><< >http://www.sickkids.on.ca/plasticsurgery/services/microtia_surgery.asp > > > >> > > > > > >I took a look at the photos on this web site. Can I ask are those > > >considered > > >good results on the finished ear? I personally didn't think they >looked > > >that > > >great. Is it just me? > > >Autumn > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 i agree whole-heartedly!!! Re: FW: HSC Plastic Surgery InfoCentre << thanks for agreeing autumn! i think they look awful - to be honest!!! >> Okay . I thought it was just me. I'm thinking if that's it I'm fine with what is there now. Autumn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Hi Lili... Are you talking about the tubes that are used for suction in the ear area. Dominic did not have any chest tubes in place but did have 2 suction tubes placed near the ear lobe to prevent any complications like a blood clot. ez Mother to Dominic 6 unilateral microtia/atresia, stage I just completed with Dr. Brent 6/2002. >From: GrossInsCo@... >Reply-To: AtresiaMicrotia >To: AtresiaMicrotia >Subject: Re: FW: HSC Plastic Surgery InfoCentre >Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 11:55:31 EDT > >In a message dated 08/26/2002 4:17:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >lili_linz@... writes: > > > > I have read of many people having ear reconstruction by Drs. Brent (rib > > cartilage harvessting) and Romo (polyethylene). Two questions: Does > > anyone > > have experience with Dr. Thorne? And does Dr. Brent place the chest >tubes > > in himself or does he have a pediatric cardiothoracic surgeon involved >with > > these operations? > > > >hi lili >there are no chest tubes in dr brent's surgery. >he harvests some cartilage, the stuff between the ribs, from which he >sculpts >the new ear. he uses cartilage because...thats what ears are made of! >he uses the patient's OWN cartilage so there is no problem with rejection. >the scar becomes quite invisible in a couple of years. there are NO after >effects of some missing rib cartilage. >jack _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2002 Report Share Posted August 27, 2002 Hi Lili! You can e-mail Dr. Nagata at NagataS7133@... and ask him your questions. He is very nice to respond immediately at some length. (mom of Bogdan, 4, HFM, left microtia/atresia) -----Original Message----- From: Lili Shiau Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 11:20 AM To: AtresiaMicrotia Subject: Re: FW: HSC Plastic Surgery InfoCentre Hi everyone, I have read of many people having ear reconstruction by Drs. Brent (rib cartilage harvessting) and Romo (polyethylene). Two questions: Does anyone have experience with Dr. Thorne? And does Dr. Brent place the chest tubes in himself or does he have a pediatric cardiothoracic surgeon involved with these operations? OK - I actually have another question: Who does Dr. Nagata work with in TX and ?MA? I can't recall the other state that he trains people in. Thanks! Lili (mom of , bilateral microtia/atresia) .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2002 Report Share Posted August 27, 2002 Jack, Thanks for the info. We just sent photos of to Dr. Brent, and we're anxiously waiting to hear from him. has some cartilage on his right ear, and we're hoping that Dr. Brent will be able to use some of it. Who knows. You mentioned that your son had the surgeries done over 20 years ago. How did he tolerate the operations? judah did great! his mom and i were WRECKS for 10 years!!!!! haha! jack Lili Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2002 Report Share Posted August 27, 2002 Jack, Thanks for the info. We just sent photos of to Dr. Brent, and we're anxiously waiting to hear from him. has some cartilage on his right ear, and we're hoping that Dr. Brent will be able to use some of it. Who knows. You mentioned that your son had the surgeries done over 20 years ago. How did he tolerate the operations? Lili (mother of , bilateral microtia/atresia) Re: FW: HSC Plastic Surgery InfoCentre I have read of many people having ear reconstruction by Drs. Brent (ribcartilage harvessting) and Romo (polyethylene). Two questions: Does anyonehave experience with Dr. Thorne? And does Dr. Brent place the chest tubesin himself or does he have a pediatric cardiothoracic surgeon involved withthese operations?hi lilithere are no chest tubes in dr brent's surgery.he harvests some cartilage, the stuff between the ribs, from which he sculpts the new ear. he uses cartilage because...thats what ears are made of!he uses the patient's OWN cartilage so there is no problem with rejection.the scar becomes quite invisible in a couple of years. there are NO after effects of some missing rib cartilage.jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2002 Report Share Posted August 27, 2002 , Thanks for the e-mail addres!!! I'm going to write to him soon. Did Bogdan have his surgery done by Dr. Nagata? Lili RE: FW: HSC Plastic Surgery InfoCentre Hi Lili! You can e-mail Dr. Nagata at NagataS7133@... and ask him your questions. He is very nice to respond immediately at some length. (mom of Bogdan, 4, HFM, left microtia/atresia) -----Original Message-----From: Lili Shiau Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 11:20 AMTo: AtresiaMicrotia Subject: Re: FW: HSC Plastic Surgery InfoCentre Hi everyone,I have read of many people having ear reconstruction by Drs. Brent (ribcartilage harvessting) and Romo (polyethylene). Two questions: Does anyonehave experience with Dr. Thorne? And does Dr. Brent place the chest tubesin himself or does he have a pediatric cardiothoracic surgeon involved withthese operations?OK - I actually have another question: Who does Dr. Nagata work with in TXand ?MA? I can't recall the other state that he trains people in.Thanks!Lili (mom of , bilateral microtia/atresia). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2002 Report Share Posted August 28, 2002 << and 25 days in hospital stay for each of two stages >> Do you know why the hospital stay is so long? That seems really long. Autumn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2002 Report Share Posted August 28, 2002 Lili, Bogdan is only 4 years old and his surgery is not yet down. I have contacted Dr. Nagata because I was impressed by the before/after pictures in his web-site. They are the best that I have seen. But Dr. Nagata start at 10 years and not before, need one preoperative visit in Japan one year before the surgery, and 25 days in hospital stay for each of two stages. The costs are very impressing too. I think Dr. Nagata’s results are really good, and I would like have him as Bogdan’s surgeon, but I don’t think this may happen. Warm Regards, -----Original Message----- From: Lili Shiau Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 8:59 PM To: AtresiaMicrotia Subject: Re: FW: HSC Plastic Surgery InfoCentre , Thanks for the e-mail addres!!! I'm going to write to him soon. Did Bogdan have his surgery done by Dr. Nagata? Lili Re: FW: HSC Plastic Surgery InfoCentre Hi everyone, I have read of many people having ear reconstruction by Drs. Brent (rib cartilage harvessting) and Romo (polyethylene). Two questions: Does anyone have experience with Dr. Thorne? And does Dr. Brent place the chest tubes in himself or does he have a pediatric cardiothoracic surgeon involved with these operations? OK - I actually have another question: Who does Dr. Nagata work with in TX and ?MA? I can't recall the other state that he trains people in. Thanks! Lili (mom of , bilateral microtia/atresia) .. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AtresiaMicrotia-unsubscribe Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AtresiaMicrotia-unsubscribe Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2002 Report Share Posted August 30, 2002 I think because he is Japan = perfectionist. For post-surgical care. I don't know. I attach his letter: Mr. Ivan and Mrs., Kaltchevi, First of all, I would like to inform you that this is the official and finalized letter to you after reviewing the photographs and my diagnosis for Bogdan Ivanov Kaltchevi is as follows: Diagnosis: 1. Left Microtia with Low Hairline 2. Left Hemifacial Microsomia (HFM) The surgical schedule that I recommend my patients with similar condition is to have the auricular reconstruction first then to have the craniofacial surgery after the auricle has been reconstructed. Please note, that if you decide for me to perform the surgery for your son, I would like to examine your son at the earliest possible date in which you may be able to come to Japan so that I may be able to conduct a physical examination and evaluation to give you the exact details and to make the necessary schedule for your son. The surgical procedures I will be performing for your son's auricular reconstruction are as follows for the " First Stage Operation (fabrication and grafting of the three-dimensional costal cartilage framework (3-D frame) <and for your son's low hairline epilation is necessary): " 1. Preparation of the surgical site for the grafting of the 3-D frame. A) Determination of the proper anatomical location to reconstruct the auricle in reference to the severity of HFM. Construction of skin flaps and skin pocket for grafting the fabricated 3-D frame. C) Harvesting of the ultra-delicate split-thickness scalp skin (UDSTS, utilized for low hairline cases during the first stage operation). D) Elevation of the temporoparietal fascia flap (TPF, utilized for low hairline cases during the first stage operation). E) Epilation (excision of the hair bearing layer). 2. Harvesting of the costal cartilages from the left chest. 3. Fabrication of the 3-D frame. 4. Grafting of the 3-D frame to the surgical site. 5. Closure and dressing of reconstructed auricle. The hospitalization schedule for the first stage operation: 1. Patients are requested to be admitted at least 10 days in advance for pre-surgical work-up (examination). 2. One whole day for surgery. 3. Patients are hospitalized for at least 25 days after surgery for post-surgical care. *Note, we have been able to secure housing for patients, parents and/or guardians to stay during the patient's hospitalization at economical prices where a family up to 5 members can sleep and cook. Please keep in mind that this is not a hotel but a facility where people can cook and sleep. The price per day is about one thousand yen (\1,000***). **It is of major importance for me to see the patient between the first and second stage operation to determine and evaluate the post-surgical course (prognosis). As for the domestic cases, I see the patients on monthly basis (once a month) but for foreign patients, I see the at least 2 or 3 time between surgery. Since you have informed me on financial matters in Bulgaria, I would like to see your son at least once between the first and second stage operation, most ideal will be at 3 months after the first stage operation. The second stage operation (projection of the reconstructed auricle <and for your son's case, reconstruction of the missing left sideburn is necessary>) is performed 6 months after the first stage operation. 1. Preparation of the surgical site for auricular projection. A) Preparation of surgical site for auricular projection. Harvesting of the ultra-delicate split-thickness scalp skin. C) Elevation of the deep temporoparietal fascia flap. D) Reconstruction of the missing sideburn. 2. Harvesting of the costal cartilage from the left chest. 3. Fabrication of costal cartilage block. 4. Grafting of the costal cartilage block to the posterior aspect of the reconstructed auricle. 5. Closure and dressing of reconstructed and projected auricle. The hospitalization schedule for the second stage operation: 1. Patients are requested to be admitted at least 10 days in advance for pre-surgical work-up (examination) and final evaluation. 2. One whole day for surgery. 3. Patients are hospitalized for at least 25 days after surgery for post-surgical care. * This is a brief summary of what you may expect for your son's corrective surgery for microtia. ** Points of precaution for your son's case: 1. Proper anatomical location for auricular reconstruction in reference to the severity of HFM requires intensive preoperative planning (much experience is required). Problem: There appears to be a lot of lack of experience in reconstructing auricles for HFM cases since many surgeons will tend to sacrifice auricular reconstruction since there are many postoperative complications and the results attained are not satisfactory. Answer: I have performed numerous secondary auricular reconstruction for unfavorable primary reconstruction results in HFM cases. Therefore, we were able to reconstruct the auricle in the most appropriate location in reference to the severity of HFM and presents more than satisfactory results have been attained. 2. The superior helical rim (upper portion of the auricle) to be reconstructed will be located in the hair bearing skin. Thus the skin surface area will be insufficient. Problem: In most microtia cases with HFM and further complicated with low hairline the surgeon will try to avoid the low hairli.ne and reconstruct the auricle in an inferior location. -OR- The surgeon will reconstruct the auricle anterior to the proper location to avoid the hairline, which is where the sideburn is usually located. In either case, the symmetrical balance is offset. Answer: I will not make any sacrifices or compromises when asked to reconstruct the auricle for the patient. I will reconstruct the auricle in its appropriate anatomical location and will perform epilation to eliminate the problem of unwanted hair growth. There will be no mismatch in color of skin since I utilize the UDSTS. Consistent and favorable results are attained with symmetry. 3. The superior pole (upper half) of the remnant vestige is flat, therefore the skin surface area will increase in insufficiency. Answer: The UDSTS is utilized to solve this problem. I have been to negotiate to make a package price for your son's surgical and hospitalization costs (fees) for both the first and second stage operations. The total price of auricular reconstruction is Seven Million Yen (|\7,000,000**). This will cover the above mentioned condition except for the housing and cooking facility which is required to be paid by each family. This fee will cover the surgical, hospitalization, surgeon's fee, translation and interpretation fees. Please forward any questions to me an I will definitely see what I can do to be of help. Sincerely yours, Satoru Nagata, MD, PhD Department Director -----Original Message----- From: FACTBERTE@... Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 6:20 PM To: AtresiaMicrotia Subject: Re: FW: HSC Plastic Surgery InfoCentre In a message dated 8/28/02 5:39:21 AM, mkaltcheva@... writes: << and 25 days in hospital stay for each of two stages >> Do you know why the hospital stay is so long? That seems really long. 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Guest guest Posted August 30, 2002 Report Share Posted August 30, 2002 WOW - I'm amazed!!!! RE: FW: HSC Plastic Surgery InfoCentre I think because he is Japan = perfectionist. For post-surgical care. I don't know. I attach his letter: Mr. Ivan and Mrs., Kaltchevi, First of all, I would like to inform you that this is the official and finalized letter to you after reviewing the photographs and my diagnosis for Bogdan Ivanov Kaltchevi is as follows: Diagnosis: 1. Left Microtia with Low Hairline 2. Left Hemifacial Microsomia (HFM) The surgical schedule that I recommend my patients with similar condition is to have the auricular reconstruction first then to have the craniofacial surgery after the auricle has been reconstructed. Please note, that if you decide for me to perform the surgery for your son, I would like to examine your son at the earliest possible date in which you may be able to come to Japan so that I may be able to conduct a physical examination and evaluation to give you the exact details and to make the necessary schedule for your son. The surgical procedures I will be performing for your son's auricular reconstruction are as follows for the "First Stage Operation (fabrication and grafting of the three-dimensional costal cartilage framework (3-D frame) <and for your son's low hairline epilation is necessary):" 1. Preparation of the surgical site for the grafting of the 3-D frame. A) Determination of the proper anatomical location to reconstruct the auricle in reference to the severity of HFM. Construction of skin flaps and skin pocket for grafting the fabricated 3-D frame. C) Harvesting of the ultra-delicate split-thickness scalp skin (UDSTS, utilized for low hairline cases during the first stage operation). D) Elevation of the temporoparietal fascia flap (TPF, utilized for low hairline cases during the first stage operation). E) Epilation (excision of the hair bearing layer). 2. Harvesting of the costal cartilages from the left chest. 3. Fabrication of the 3-D frame. 4. Grafting of the 3-D frame to the surgical site. 5. Closure and dressing of reconstructed auricle. The hospitalization schedule for the first stage operation: 1. Patients are requested to be admitted at least 10 days in advance for pre-surgical work-up (examination). 2. One whole day for surgery. 3. Patients are hospitalized for at least 25 days after surgery for post-surgical care. *Note, we have been able to secure housing for patients, parents and/or guardians to stay during the patient's hospitalization at economical prices where a family up to 5 members can sleep and cook. Please keep in mind that this is not a hotel but a facility where people can cook and sleep. The price per day is about one thousand yen (\1,000***). **It is of major importance for me to see the patient between the first and second stage operation to determine and evaluate the post-surgical course (prognosis). As for the domestic cases, I see the patients on monthly basis (once a month) but for foreign patients, I see the at least 2 or 3 time between surgery. Since you have informed me on financial matters in Bulgaria, I would like to see your son at least once between the first and second stage operation, most ideal will be at 3 months after the first stage operation. The second stage operation (projection of the reconstructed auricle <and for your son's case, reconstruction of the missing left sideburn is necessary>) is performed 6 months after the first stage operation. 1. Preparation of the surgical site for auricular projection. A) Preparation of surgical site for auricular projection. Harvesting of the ultra-delicate split-thickness scalp skin. C) Elevation of the deep temporoparietal fascia flap. D) Reconstruction of the missing sideburn. 2. Harvesting of the costal cartilage from the left chest. 3. Fabrication of costal cartilage block. 4. Grafting of the costal cartilage block to the posterior aspect of the reconstructed auricle. 5. Closure and dressing of reconstructed and projected auricle. The hospitalization schedule for the second stage operation: 1. Patients are requested to be admitted at least 10 days in advance for pre-surgical work-up (examination) and final evaluation. 2. One whole day for surgery. 3. Patients are hospitalized for at least 25 days after surgery for post-surgical care. * This is a brief summary of what you may expect for your son's corrective surgery for microtia. ** Points of precaution for your son's case: 1. Proper anatomical location for auricular reconstruction in reference to the severity of HFM requires intensive preoperative planning (much experience is required). Problem: There appears to be a lot of lack of experience in reconstructing auricles for HFM cases since many surgeons will tend to sacrifice auricular reconstruction since there are many postoperative complications and the results attained are not satisfactory. Answer: I have performed numerous secondary auricular reconstruction for unfavorable primary reconstruction results in HFM cases. Therefore, we were able to reconstruct the auricle in the most appropriate location in reference to the severity of HFM and presents more than satisfactory results have been attained. 2. The superior helical rim (upper portion of the auricle) to be reconstructed will be located in the hair bearing skin. Thus the skin surface area will be insufficient. Problem: In most microtia cases with HFM and further complicated with low hairline the surgeon will try to avoid the low hairli.ne and reconstruct the auricle in an inferior location. -OR- The surgeon will reconstruct the auricle anterior to the proper location to avoid the hairline, which is where the sideburn is usually located. In either case, the symmetrical balance is offset. Answer: I will not make any sacrifices or compromises when asked to reconstruct the auricle for the patient. I will reconstruct the auricle in its appropriate anatomical location and will perform epilation to eliminate the problem of unwanted hair growth. There will be no mismatch in color of skin since I utilize the UDSTS. Consistent and favorable results are attained with symmetry. 3. The superior pole (upper half) of the remnant vestige is flat, therefore the skin surface area will increase in insufficiency. Answer: The UDSTS is utilized to solve this problem. I have been to negotiate to make a package price for your son's surgical and hospitalization costs (fees) for both the first and second stage operations. The total price of auricular reconstruction is Seven Million Yen (|\7,000,000**). This will cover the above mentioned condition except for the housing and cooking facility which is required to be paid by each family. This fee will cover the surgical, hospitalization, surgeon's fee, translation and interpretation fees. Please forward any questions to me an I will definitely see what I can do to be of help. Sincerely yours, Satoru Nagata, MD, PhD Department Director -----Original Message-----From: FACTBERTE@... Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 6:20 PMTo: AtresiaMicrotia Subject: Re: FW: HSC Plastic Surgery InfoCentre << and 25 days in hospital stay for each of two stages >>Do you know why the hospital stay is so long? That seems really long.Autumn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2002 Report Share Posted August 30, 2002 I think because he is Japan = perfectionist. For post-surgical care. I don't know. I attach his letter: Mr. Ivan and Mrs., Kaltchevi, First of all, I would like to inform you that this is the official and finalized letter to you after reviewing the photographs and my diagnosis for Bogdan Ivanov Kaltchevi is as follows: .... The hospitalization schedule for the first stage operation: 1. Patients are requested to be admitted at least 10 days in advance for pre-surgical work-up (examination). 2. One whole day for surgery. 3. Patients are hospitalized for at least 25 days after surgery for post-surgical care. *Note, we have been able to secure housing for patients, parents and/or guardians to stay during the patient's hospitalization at economical prices where a family up to 5 members can sleep and cook. Please keep in mind that this is not a hotel but a facility where people can cook and sleep. The price per day is about one thousand yen (\1,000***). **It is of major importance for me to see the patient between the first and second stage operation to determine and evaluate the post-surgical course (prognosis). As for the domestic cases, I see the patients on monthly basis (once a month) but for foreign patients, I see the at least 2 or 3 time between surgery. The hospitalization schedule for the second stage operation: .... 1. Patients are requested to be admitted at least 10 days in advance for pre-surgical work-up (examination) and final evaluation. 2. One whole day for surgery. 3. Patients are hospitalized for at least 25 days after surgery for post-surgical care. hey autumn... i'm with YOU... i cannot iMAGine such an unwarranted , interminable (IMHO) 25 day hospital stay! JACK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2002 Report Share Posted August 31, 2002 would an american insurance company cover reconstructive surgery with dr. nagata? i know he sometimes operates out of houston and canada - but is he on staff there? RE: FW: HSC Plastic Surgery InfoCentre I think because he is Japan = perfectionist. For post-surgical care. I don't know. I attach his letter: Mr. Ivan and Mrs., Kaltchevi, First of all, I would like to inform you that this is the official and finalized letter to you after reviewing the photographs and my diagnosis for Bogdan Ivanov Kaltchevi is as follows: Diagnosis: 1. Left Microtia with Low Hairline 2. Left Hemifacial Microsomia (HFM) The surgical schedule that I recommend my patients with similar condition is to have the auricular reconstruction first then to have the craniofacial surgery after the auricle has been reconstructed. Please note, that if you decide for me to perform the surgery for your son, I would like to examine your son at the earliest possible date in which you may be able to come to Japan so that I may be able to conduct a physical examination and evaluation to give you the exact details and to make the necessary schedule for your son. The surgical procedures I will be performing for your son's auricular reconstruction are as follows for the "First Stage Operation (fabrication and grafting of the three-dimensional costal cartilage framework (3-D frame) <and for your son's low hairline epilation is necessary):" 1. Preparation of the surgical site for the grafting of the 3-D frame. A) Determination of the proper anatomical location to reconstruct the auricle in reference to the severity of HFM. Construction of skin flaps and skin pocket for grafting the fabricated 3-D frame. C) Harvesting of the ultra-delicate split-thickness scalp skin (UDSTS, utilized for low hairline cases during the first stage operation). D) Elevation of the temporoparietal fascia flap (TPF, utilized for low hairline cases during the first stage operation). E) Epilation (excision of the hair bearing layer). 2. Harvesting of the costal cartilages from the left chest. 3. Fabrication of the 3-D frame. 4. Grafting of the 3-D frame to the surgical site. 5. Closure and dressing of reconstructed auricle. The hospitalization schedule for the first stage operation: 1. Patients are requested to be admitted at least 10 days in advance for pre-surgical work-up (examination). 2. One whole day for surgery. 3. Patients are hospitalized for at least 25 days after surgery for post-surgical care. *Note, we have been able to secure housing for patients, parents and/or guardians to stay during the patient's hospitalization at economical prices where a family up to 5 members can sleep and cook. Please keep in mind that this is not a hotel but a facility where people can cook and sleep. The price per day is about one thousand yen (\1,000***). **It is of major importance for me to see the patient between the first and second stage operation to determine and evaluate the post-surgical course (prognosis). As for the domestic cases, I see the patients on monthly basis (once a month) but for foreign patients, I see the at least 2 or 3 time between surgery. Since you have informed me on financial matters in Bulgaria, I would like to see your son at least once between the first and second stage operation, most ideal will be at 3 months after the first stage operation. The second stage operation (projection of the reconstructed auricle <and for your son's case, reconstruction of the missing left sideburn is necessary>) is performed 6 months after the first stage operation. 1. Preparation of the surgical site for auricular projection. A) Preparation of surgical site for auricular projection. Harvesting of the ultra-delicate split-thickness scalp skin. C) Elevation of the deep temporoparietal fascia flap. D) Reconstruction of the missing sideburn. 2. Harvesting of the costal cartilage from the left chest. 3. Fabrication of costal cartilage block. 4. Grafting of the costal cartilage block to the posterior aspect of the reconstructed auricle. 5. Closure and dressing of reconstructed and projected auricle. The hospitalization schedule for the second stage operation: 1. Patients are requested to be admitted at least 10 days in advance for pre-surgical work-up (examination) and final evaluation. 2. One whole day for surgery. 3. Patients are hospitalized for at least 25 days after surgery for post-surgical care. * This is a brief summary of what you may expect for your son's corrective surgery for microtia. ** Points of precaution for your son's case: 1. Proper anatomical location for auricular reconstruction in reference to the severity of HFM requires intensive preoperative planning (much experience is required). Problem: There appears to be a lot of lack of experience in reconstructing auricles for HFM cases since many surgeons will tend to sacrifice auricular reconstruction since there are many postoperative complications and the results attained are not satisfactory. Answer: I have performed numerous secondary auricular reconstruction for unfavorable primary reconstruction results in HFM cases. Therefore, we were able to reconstruct the auricle in the most appropriate location in reference to the severity of HFM and presents more than satisfactory results have been attained. 2. The superior helical rim (upper portion of the auricle) to be reconstructed will be located in the hair bearing skin. Thus the skin surface area will be insufficient. Problem: In most microtia cases with HFM and further complicated with low hairline the surgeon will try to avoid the low hairli.ne and reconstruct the auricle in an inferior location. -OR- The surgeon will reconstruct the auricle anterior to the proper location to avoid the hairline, which is where the sideburn is usually located. In either case, the symmetrical balance is offset. Answer: I will not make any sacrifices or compromises when asked to reconstruct the auricle for the patient. I will reconstruct the auricle in its appropriate anatomical location and will perform epilation to eliminate the problem of unwanted hair growth. There will be no mismatch in color of skin since I utilize the UDSTS. Consistent and favorable results are attained with symmetry. 3. The superior pole (upper half) of the remnant vestige is flat, therefore the skin surface area will increase in insufficiency. Answer: The UDSTS is utilized to solve this problem. I have been to negotiate to make a package price for your son's surgical and hospitalization costs (fees) for both the first and second stage operations. The total price of auricular reconstruction is Seven Million Yen (|\7,000,000**). This will cover the above mentioned condition except for the housing and cooking facility which is required to be paid by each family. This fee will cover the surgical, hospitalization, surgeon's fee, translation and interpretation fees. Please forward any questions to me an I will definitely see what I can do to be of help. Sincerely yours, Satoru Nagata, MD, PhD Department Director -----Original Message-----From: FACTBERTE@... Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 6:20 PMTo: AtresiaMicrotia Subject: Re: FW: HSC Plastic Surgery InfoCentre << and 25 days in hospital stay for each of two stages >>Do you know why the hospital stay is so long? That seems really long.Autumn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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