Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 no, I think I had enough of that stuff last night. enough for me! Re: neurotin > >>> > >>> > >>>> Hi , > >>>> > >>>> I'm on this for the second time - this time for a different reason than > >>> the first. The doctor started me on 300 mg a day taken at bedtime and > > at > >>> first, I noticed that I felt very uncomfortable but that passed after > > taking > >>> it about 2 weeks. Can you describe the " trip? " > >>>> > >>>> Last week, he increased the dose to two a day - one in the morning and > > one > >>> at night. I am not taking the morning one regularly as I don't like the > > way > >>> it makes me feel. I feel very light headed and about 8 feet tall. I > >>> haven't decided what I'll do about that second one yet but I think I'll > >>> continue taking the one at bedtime. > >>>> > >>>> Smiles Back! > >>>> Alice > >>>> > >>>> Has anyone else had a bad reaction to neurotin? This is one of the > >>> medicine's the sleep doctor gave me to try to alter my sleep pattern. > > Not > >>> only does it not help, but I has a little " trip " on it last night before > > I > >>> finally fell asleep. So, it is being chucked along with the topomax > > which > >>> was the first thing we tried, which at one pill did change things, but > > not > >>> neccessarily better. I woke up to go to the bathroom 4 times a night on > > it. > >>> But I must say I did fall back asleep right away. When I increased it > > the > >>> second week I couldn't get out of the chair the next day. Not worth it > > at > >>> all. Should I start to give up hope yet or hang on????)) > >>>> I am very interested though if anyone has had that reaction to > > neurotin, > >>> it was a tiny starting dose of only 300 mg. > >>>> > >>>> Smiles to you, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 Sorry it didn't go through. For some reason it keeps cutting off the end. Here it is... http://emc.medicines.org.uk/emc/assets/c/html/displaydoc.asp? documentid=1428 Also, is absolutely right about them being in trouble for drug reps and docs pushing Neurontin. It was hyped up as being this fabulous drug for pain relief, as well as a ton of other uses when in fact it hadn't been proven to do half of the things that were claimed. There was a special about it on either Dateline or 20/20 about a year ago I think. Bottom line is that docs get kick backs (ie. vacations, cash, cars etc..) if they push certain drugs and that was the case for Neurontin. Additionally, doctors were led to believe this product worked for the mass market. That doesn't mean all docs are prescribing this because they'll get a free vacation etc..., but it does mean that you should be cautious as with any drug. Neurontin obviously does help some people. Good luck, bug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 I didn't get anything either. Is this a membership type site maybe? venomvw wrote: >Here it is again...hope it goes through this time. > >http://emc.medicines.org.uk/emc/assets/c/html/displaydoc.asp? >documentid=1428 > > >bug > > > > >Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements contained herein are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of this e mail is entirely responsible for its content. List members are reminded of their responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and consult with their physicians regarding changes in their own treatment. > >Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone who sends one is automatically moderated or removed depending on the severity of the attack. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 This comes directly from Parke : " Special warnings and precautions for use...Patients taking Neurontin can be the subject of mood and behavioural disturbances. Such reports have been noted in patients on Neurontin although a causal link has not been established. Caution is recommended in patients with history of psychotic illness. On commencing Neurontin therapy, psychotic episodes have been reported in some patients with, and rarely without, a history of psychotic illness. Most of these events resolved when Neurontin was discontinued or the dosage was reduced. " For the record, I'm not questioning your docs motives. I'm sure he believes this would help. I do think however, that this particular medication has been proven to be mis-prescribed more often than not. The TV special clearly showed undercover video of drug reps flat out lying about the effectiveness and uses of Neurontin. The former employee who was interviewed admitted that he exaggerated the product to make more sales and lied about what it could do. As for your activity level increasing your overall energy, make sure you aren't doing to much late in the evening. This can increase your alertness and make it harder to sleep. Obviously sugar and caffeine late are also a bad idea. You might want to take a warm bath in the evening and maybe try reading instead of watching tv. bug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 I don't disagree with the thread and it's reference to the side effects that we can subject ourselves to with drugs as I know by personal experience the impact of drugs and how they can affect us. My experience with Effexor would scare the living daylights out of anyone. One dose almost killed me. Cindy's experience with Imitrex for migraines was almost identical to what I experienced on Effexor. There is no way anyone could convince me to take even 1/4 a dose of it yet I know many, many people can take it. That one experience made a tremendous impact on me. Maybe body chemistry comes into play but if you read the warnings on all your meds, it's likely that we would not take any. Alice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2004 Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 I certainly don't dispute the information on Neurontin and other drugs, but wanted to inform those who don't already know this. The FDA approves a drug for a specific treatment for a specific thing following drug trials. It can then be found that it works well for other things. This information is then provided to doctors in journal articles and drug reps (I would be likely to believe the journal articles and not the reps - personal opinion). On listed drug side effects, they have to list any that anyone has experienced. I have some personal experience with this. I was taking MCT oil (they thought I had a CPT deficiency) and my triclygeride level became elevated. The company then had to list this even if no one else ever had the same thing happen and if it had nothing to do with the med. This is why precautions usually list common problems, less common and possible reactions. I agree with Alice that since we metabolize things differently, we are probably more prone to reactions, but without some of these meds, we could not function. It is always a balancing act to determine if the problem or the med is the better thing to live with. laurie > > Reply-To: > Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 01:23:59 -0000 > To: > Subject: Re: neurotin > > This comes directly from Parke : > " Special warnings and precautions for use...Patients taking > Neurontin can be the subject of mood and behavioural disturbances. > Such reports have been noted in patients on Neurontin although a > causal link has not been established. > > Caution is recommended in patients with history of psychotic > illness. On commencing Neurontin therapy, psychotic episodes have > been reported in some patients with, and rarely without, a history > of psychotic illness. Most of these events resolved when Neurontin > was discontinued or the dosage was reduced. " > > For the record, I'm not questioning your docs motives. I'm sure he > believes this would help. I do think however, that this particular > medication has been proven to be mis-prescribed more often than > not. The TV special clearly showed undercover video of drug reps > flat out lying about the effectiveness and uses of Neurontin. The > former employee who was interviewed admitted that he exaggerated the > product to make more sales and lied about what it could do. > > As for your activity level increasing your overall energy, make sure > you aren't doing to much late in the evening. This can increase > your alertness and make it harder to sleep. Obviously sugar and > caffeine late are also a bad idea. You might want to take a warm > bath in the evening and maybe try reading instead of watching tv. > > bug > > > > Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements contained herein > are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of this e mail is > entirely responsible for its content. List members are reminded of their > responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and consult with their > physicians regarding changes in their own treatment. > > Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone who sends one is > automatically moderated or removed depending on the severity of the attack. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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