Guest guest Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 Hair growth is caused by a few things, even men with kleinfelters can have significant hair growth. So if you have the other symptoms of low t, and you have a low blood level, you have low t and should address it. > I have said before that i have low free and total T. However, I have > lots of body hair and my facial hair is fairly thick and quick > growing. It seems like a strange combination to me. Any ideas? > > Thanks, > Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2004 Report Share Posted April 3, 2004 No clue..... I am 6' 2 " , 245 lbs, muscular, mucho face hair, woodies like a 2X4, but my T levels are between 95-190. It does not make sense sometimes. Nickso > I have said before that i have low free and total T. However, I have > lots of body hair and my facial hair is fairly thick and quick > growing. It seems like a strange combination to me. Any ideas? > > Thanks, > Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 ---Donna, Hi, I am also from the Pgh. area you have 2 options: 1) Dr. Jiang at Childrens Hospital will give e_vaul of what he thinks about her plagio how severe he thinks it is. When we first went he measured my dd at severe after 5 weeks in helmet he mesaured her as mild to moderate. So they helmet does help. 2) Union orthotics on Liberty ave can do scan to see what her numbers are like. If you would like these phone #'s let me know. Tina Mama to Jenna In Plagiocephaly , " Foley, Molly " <mafoley@...> wrote: > > Try this website: > > OlderPlag/ > > Molly > > Perplexed > > > We are completely perplexed. There are not concrete studies that say for > certain that mild plagiocephaly is anything other than cosmetic. My > granddaughter's head is flat in the back. I went to the website that is for > those who did not have a helmet, there are 20 members since 2001 and no > recent mail so this seems to be a dead discussion. When does it become > important to wear a helmet, at what point? How do we know? > > Sorry, I am frustrated from reading and finding nothing to support whether > to get the helmet or not get the helmet. > > Thank you for listening. > > Donna > Pgh, PA > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 ---Hi Donna, I am glad that she was scanned today. Did your daughter-in-law check with her ins co? Because she needs to ask for durable medical equipment the cranial remolding helmet billing code is S1040. In our case our ins co would not pay the total bill for the helmet, I was able to get her approved for Gateway, its medical assistance. She was approved for that regardless of our income because they consider plagio a disability. I will email you directly with my phone # and you can call me and we can discuss this more if you want. Tina Mama to Jenna In Plagiocephaly , " Donna Marucci " <Donnalmarucci@...> wrote: > > Hi Tina, > Thank you for writing. Nina was being measured by Union Orthotics today. Knowing my daughter-in-law, she will opt to get the helmet. Insurance will not pay for this as it is cosmetic, is that true? > > Donna > Perplexed > > > > > > We are completely perplexed. There are not concrete studies that > say for > > certain that mild plagiocephaly is anything other than cosmetic. My > > granddaughter's head is flat in the back. I went to the website > that is for > > those who did not have a helmet, there are 20 members since 2001 > and no > > recent mail so this seems to be a dead discussion. When does it > become > > important to wear a helmet, at what point? How do we know? > > > > Sorry, I am frustrated from reading and finding nothing to support > whether > > to get the helmet or not get the helmet. > > > > Thank you for listening. > > > > Donna > > Pgh, PA > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 Hi Donna. I am from the Pgh are too. In response to your question about mild plagio being cosmetic, My dd had mild plagiocephaly and I repo'ed her and she got really round. However, now that she is 3 yrs old, I look at her face and I can see a definite misalignment in her jaw. The lower one is shifted and slanted to the left. I don't know if there is anything to correct it except some kind of painful surgery, and if it's not corrected it could cause headaches and/or TMJ. And even if you do believe that mild plagio is cosmetic, crroked teeth are cosmetic and I don't know any parent or other family member who would hesitate at getting the child braces. How do you feel about your DIL wanting to get your dgd's head banded? If you're not completely on board with the idea, my suggestion would be to pretend. If your son and DIL decide to get a band for her, I am sure they will feel enough insecurity about the idea of taking their dd out in public in the band, and they will need all the support they can get. Definitely check out the OlderPlag group at . It is just full of parents whose children have untreated plagio and they can share their experiences with you. Becky, repo mod , repo grad Pgh, PA > > We are completely perplexed. There are not concrete studies that say for certain that mild plagiocephaly is anything other than cosmetic. My granddaughter's head is flat in the back. I went to the website that is for those who did not have a helmet, there are 20 members since 2001 and no recent mail so this seems to be a dead discussion. When does it become important to wear a helmet, at what point? How do we know? > > Sorry, I am frustrated from reading and finding nothing to support whether to get the helmet or not get the helmet. > > Thank you for listening. > > Donna > Pgh, PA > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 Hi Becky, I am behind my daughter-in-law 100%, she is a wonderful mother. My son contributes very little to her decision making process because he knows she will always do the right thing. They are going to get the helmet. When first ask for my opinion, I said it is no different than deciding to put braces on her, do what needs to be done. Then, I went through a brief panic mode but I am over it . I have always been concerned about the babies head, even when the doctors were not. What is it with these pediatricians today, they give no direction, everything is nothing, no matter what it may be? Thank you very much for writing, you advise is well taken. Donna Re: Perplexed Hi Donna. I am from the Pgh are too. In response to your question about mild plagio being cosmetic, My dd had mild plagiocephaly and I repo'ed her and she got really round. However, now that she is 3 yrs old, I look at her face and I can see a definite misalignment in her jaw. The lower one is shifted and slanted to the left. I don't know if there is anything to correct it except some kind of painful surgery, and if it's not corrected it could cause headaches and/or TMJ. And even if you do believe that mild plagio is cosmetic, crroked teeth are cosmetic and I don't know any parent or other family member who would hesitate at getting the child braces.How do you feel about your DIL wanting to get your dgd's head banded? If you're not completely on board with the idea, my suggestion would be to pretend. If your son and DIL decide to get a band for her, I am sure they will feel enough insecurity about the idea of taking their dd out in public in the band, and they will need all the support they can get. Definitely check out the OlderPlag group at . It is just full of parents whose children have untreated plagio and they can share their experiences with you.Becky, repo mod, repo gradPgh, PA>> We are completely perplexed. There are not concrete studies that say for certain that mild plagiocephaly is anything other than cosmetic. My granddaughter's head is flat in the back. I went to the website that is for those who did not have a helmet, there are 20 members since 2001 and no recent mail so this seems to be a dead discussion. When does it become important to wear a helmet, at what point? How do we know?> > Sorry, I am frustrated from reading and finding nothing to support whether to get the helmet or not get the helmet.> > Thank you for listening.> > Donna> Pgh, PA> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 " Sick " is a very broad term. What exactly are people meaning when they say " sick " ? It could be a single bout of a cold - that single instance the child is " sick " . Or it could mean the child that catches every germ that crosses their path - you could call this " sickly " . When a child happens to be sick, whether it is the first or fortieth time in a year, fever is a good thing - its the body's natural defenses changing the microbial balance of the body... " burning out " the germs. I'm healthy despite my vax status. Then again, not only did I not get as much as kids do nowadays... I also went through chelation for mercury poisoning from amalgam fillings. I was not healthy pre-chelation - I was one of those kids that caught every germ I was exposed to. I constantly ran low in temperature, and my fevers never exceeded 99. The med I took for chelation, DMSA, would cause me to run a slight fever every round. I *loved* it. I felt soooo much better running slightly hot! Sometimes I think the fevers the DMSA encouraged helped me as much as the mercury exiting my system! Even though I've purged the mercury from my system, thyroid toxins, such as bromate (in most bread and flour products) and fluoride (tap water), cause my temperature to dip, sometimes as low as 96.5! At that temperature I'm sluggish and ill feeling, at least until my body clears the toxins in a day or so. On a normal, healthy food day I run between 98.5 and 99.5. IMHO, a lot of the sickly children are sick because their temperature runs too low - whether due to thyroid or adrenal disorders, due to heavy metals from vaccinations, amalgams, toxins from food and water... Anyway, illness itself isn't desireable, but it is part of what makes us human. The " healthy " part of illness is the _appropriate_ response to it: fever as well as the expulsion of the undesireable microbes and their toxins. The expulsion not only runs the microbes out of the system, it tends to encourage a different microbial profile by changing the environment of the body (changing what there is for microbes to eat). Someone whose body can not expel or burn out these microbes, will harbor and even nourish these undesireable microbes, resulting in chronic illness. -Lana " There is nothing more useful than sun and salt. " - Latin proverb On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 8:16 PM, staceysarros <staceysarros@...>wrote: > Okay, so why it is that people on this board are saying fever and > illness is a " good thing " as it is ridding the body of toxins > especially when this comment is associated with a child who is unvax, > yet when a person comments on a sick child who IS vax then the stories > about how " unhealthy " they are arise versus the same comment about > being a " good thing " . Why does this sound hypocritical. > > I just need some responses, especially from people who believe illness > is " good " . I am not necessarily disagreeing however when it comes to > vax. children and sickness I am confused. > > I have an unvax child so I am not offended just trying to weed through > the opinions and understand more > > Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 Okay, bear with me... it's kind of late and I'm a bit sleep deprived since my six-month-old decided to keep me awake all last night.... I'll try not to ramble too much. When a person who is unvaccinated and/or who has not had round after round of antibiotics, infiltrated their body with other " medicines " like Tylenol, etc. gets sick (which is actually a heathy immune response to rid the body of toxins) their body isn't dealing with a bunch of other crud that has been thrown at it. It is able to handle, the toxic overload more efficiently and rid the body naturally and more quickly. When a person HAS been injected with poisions, neurotoxins, etc., their toxic " tipping point " is now higher, because the poisions and toxins that have already been forced into the body unnaturally have thrown it into a tailspin... the body is constantly having to try to rid itself of these invadors -- yes, that is a healthy response... the body is trying to rid itself of toxins, but now when it does come by other " illnesses " , it has to work even that much harder, or sometimes can't even respond because it's too busy dealing with the chronic state it is in... also, if you supress illness (or vaccine reaction like fever and screaming) with Tylenol, the body never rids itself of that disburbance. This is why you see allergies, asthma, diabetes, etc. in vaccinated children (that's not to say that unvaccinated children won't develop these too, it's just not as prevalent). Because the body has been thrown into a chronic state of trying to rid itself of the toxins... i.e. chronic " illness " . Also, the way the body responds to a man-made vaccine is much different than how the body responds to a disease/illness caught in the wild. For instance, when you get sick with the flu (or any number of diseases), the body's immune response starts the minute the disturbance hits the nasal and mucous membranes... when you inject the flu into your arm via vaccine, the early signals that the immune system uses to ready its troops to fight the battle isn't activated... it's like a hurricane hitting your body without any warning -- the sirens, bells and news media didn't warn the body to get ready, so it's not prepared. So while you may now have antibodies (a virus has entered your system and the body recognized it), other parts of your immune system weren't activated properly in order to get a true immune response, like it would have been had the virus entered your body naturally. Eesh! I hope that makes a tiny bit of sense... I think I should hit the hay now! On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 8:16 PM, staceysarros <staceysarros@...> wrote: > Okay, so why it is that people on this board are saying fever and > illness is a " good thing " as it is ridding the body of toxins > especially when this comment is associated with a child who is unvax, > yet when a person comments on a sick child who IS vax then the stories > about how " unhealthy " they are arise versus the same comment about > being a " good thing " . Why does this sound hypocritical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Hello Stacey, Probably the best info is that from Sheri. The documents that she has provided are invaluable for reference. Many of us here learned the hard way and DID vaccinate our children. We have done our darnedest to recover their health. A really good book is How to Raise a Healthy Child - in Spite of Your Doctor by Dr Mendelsohn. I have probably bought over 50 of this book so far. I lend it out and it never comes back, it's that good! Another one, just FYI, is Mal(e)practise by the same author. It lifts the lid on the various ways women are conned into relinquishing their autonomy over their own bodies! BTW, there is something else that is a part of the natural healing process that a doctor mentioned to me when my DH was injured and badly burned a few years ago. The swelling is nature's own cushion for the injury. This was from an allopath! He said one should not use anti-inflams as the cushion was needed! He did offer a tetanus jab and antibiotics and painkillers though. LOL! Both my parents had stomach & bowel bleeding from using Voltaren! Instead of taking them off the drug, they were sent off for batteries of tests including colonoscopies and barium meals! So the cascade of symptoms (and big profits) began, " requiring " more and more drugs! From: staceysarros <staceysarros@...> Subject: Perplexed Vaccinations Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 7:16 PM Okay, so why it is that people on this board are saying fever and illness is a " good thing " as it is ridding the body of toxins especially when this comment is associated with a child who is unvax, yet when a person comments on a sick child who IS vax then the stories about how " unhealthy " they are arise versus the same comment about being a " good thing " . Why does this sound hypocritical. I just need some responses, especially from people who believe illness is " good " . I am not necessarily disagreeing however when it comes to vax. children and sickness I am confused. I have an unvax child so I am not offended just trying to weed through the opinions and understand more Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 I've had that thought before! I think all kids get sick, but I like to think that unvaxxed children can/will get over it quickly/eventually but more importantly have better long term health. I wouldn't say my kids get colds or fevers more or less than their friends. Don't know really. However, I do know that their friends use antibiotics a lot! When I think of serious sickness, I think of more the things that cause damage long term. - In Vaccinations , " staceysarros " <staceysarros@...> wrote: > > Okay, so why it is that people on this board are saying fever and > illness is a " good thing " as it is ridding the body of toxins > especially when this comment is associated with a child who is unvax, > yet when a person comments on a sick child who IS vax then the stories > about how " unhealthy " they are arise versus the same comment about > being a " good thing " . Why does this sound hypocritical. > > I just need some responses, especially from people who believe illness > is " good " . I am not necessarily disagreeing however when it comes to > vax. children and sickness I am confused. > > I have an unvax child so I am not offended just trying to weed through > the opinions and understand more > > Thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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