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In a message dated 12/6/2004 6:06:15 PM Eastern Standard Time,

djrbrick121314@... writes:

> my question is can hypo cause

> you to have anxiety attach

good lord yes! I was on anti-anxiety meds for 10 years before I was

diagnosed with Hashimoto's/hypo. After two weeks on Armour Thyroid, I just quit

the

anti-anxiety meds. Hypo can have LOTS of psychiatric symptoms.

Cindi

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In a message dated 12/6/2004 6:06:15 PM Eastern Standard Time,

djrbrick121314@... writes:

> my question is can hypo cause

> you to have anxiety attach

good lord yes! I was on anti-anxiety meds for 10 years before I was

diagnosed with Hashimoto's/hypo. After two weeks on Armour Thyroid, I just quit

the

anti-anxiety meds. Hypo can have LOTS of psychiatric symptoms.

Cindi

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I have a friend who has hypo-thyroid. my question is can hypo cause

you to have anxiety attach.[ she had 3 of them last week] she is on

synthroid meds. her family dr. is getting her to get a scan done on

her thyroid, cause she has gain 12 lb. since Aug. and she feels like

crap. I told her about this sight and when she has time she is going

to sign on. she was unable to get an appointment with a thyroid dr.

until Jan.

Doreen

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You're preaching to the choir here, . This is all so very true & adds up to

Burnout City. Well I'm at a point in time in my life where I'm now alone,

widowed, got my new home all comfortably settled & managing now, on a slow,

steady routine to live way more simply on a far lower income.

I'm retired, past working age & disabled so unable to. And it's okay...don't

want to even hear/read the word " work " anymore. Not even " work " around my own

house or yards. I let it all go. Not trying to keep up with the es at all.

Don't care what people think either. Tho I used to. But that's all in the past &

can stay there.

Now I can rest. And that's exactly what I'm doing. Money, mostly for health

reasons, is a problem tho. Everything is so expensive. So if there's not enough

for me to spend on my health, then it ain't gonna happen & I guess I'll just get

sicker, more aged & die then. Not this year tho. Tho I thought I might not make

it through the past two winters.

Oh well...so be it. I'm about to fight, overwork or push myself anymore. I've

come to accept that I need rest & if that's not enough with what little else I

can afford to help heal myself...then what can I do but accept those facts? Not

much.

I'm not really grieving anymore actually. Never did miss my husbands...none of

them. Do miss my kids, siblings & extended family living nearby me as they used

to but not in the same house tho. Also miss my former healthfully supportive &

friend-filled faith-based community I don't have here tho.

People, especially elders, do need loving, supportive friends & family in their

lives. It's proven they do better than others who don't have that kind of caring

& attention. I don't have that now so not doing so well. Being alone so much

does take its toll. But I used to have it so I know what it's like to have it or

not to & how much better I did when I had it.

So that's what I miss. At least until I can find a substitute somehow, someway.

But not about to go out beating the bushes to find it as I did when I first

moved here...that's too much " work " ...tiring & painful...ugh!

But also cherishing my time alone to rest & not do much of anything, even try to

get into a social whirl here...don't need that either...again too tiring, too

painful. Guess I'm rather a recluse by some standards. But that's okay too. I'm

no longer striving or " working " at or pushing myself to do anything except take

care of my own health concerns & that's it.

This feels right to me at this time. I carry no grudges or feel vengeful against

anyone. It was just life's circumstances that brought me to this weary point in

time is all. Not mine or anyone else's fault...just the way it is...that's life

in other words. And I believe in " live & let live " .

I'm not even pushing myself for the " Christmas Rush " anymore either. I send out

cards is all...don't shop for gifts for anyone...can't afford it anyway. I'm

sending each of my 5 grandkids $5.00 in a card. I never get anything from any of

them anyway.

Their parents, my own kids, are getting nothing except a card. Only two of my

kids bother to give me anything anyway & only one of them is helping me at all

when he can drive this far to see me a few times a year. None of the rest of

them care it seems.

So I'm not about to overdo or overwork myself for them or anyone else anymore

either. I love them & hope & pray for the best for all of them. But mama's done

her job & that's the end of it.

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Yes, it is the #1 most important thing that will help treat either

disease-both diseases (as adrenal problems can cause thyroid problems and

vice versa). We can take all the right thyroid treatment we want to, but

until we stop burning the candle at both ends, have faith in something or

someone, change our thinking, especially when it comes to forgiveness and

such like that, or at least come to a point where we're deciding that it's

worse for us to hate than to not hate---until we come to these changes, then

the medication or thyroid is only half the story. The things about hatred,

unforgiveness, and such have been found to be major causes of physical

disease all over the world. I think that we've all seen articles about this

in most places, even in circles where there is no religion or that kind of

thing. Even the Bible has verses concerning a particular person that say

that it " dries up the bones " . When it comes to burning the candle at both

ends, I have even seen people who had horrendous lifestyles, never getting

any sleep, keeping a schedule that looks like the schedule of 10 people

instead of 1, get thyroid disease, get it properly treated, but are still

trying to figure out ways to live the same way that they always were. Some

things are set in stone. If we continue to do this, we're NOT going to get

well. Proper physical treatment is A main key, but these things are the

other key, IMO, and of many others, I might add. Ask any psych what his/her

patients main problems are, in this day and age. We have forgotten what

it's like to live simply. We've been made to feel guilty for not being the

Super Moms, Super Wives, Super Men, and with both sexes, the most super job.

We have decided that it's acceptable to try to fit everything into a day,

and when we can't, we get frustrated. What IS that?! We are not going to

lengthen our lives ONE little bit by looking constantly into the past, or

hurrying up today, so that we can get to tomorrow and do the same thing all

over again. I say this as a person who HAS hated with a vengeance, HAS

burned the candle at both ends (for yrs), and did feel guilty because I

couldn't be everybody's everything. I did not change one hair on my head or

anyone else's by doing these things. I did not change the past, but I did

make my future a whole lot worse by getting sicker and sicker. Yes, there

were many other things that contributed to the demise of my thyroid, but

this one is a sure one. It's suicidal. It keeps us from enjoying life,

which is really the main reason we're here. I don't say to be

irresponsible, but we've got to know when to fold em, when it comes to

always looking into a deep dark hole all the time. I am a poor person,

financially, so it's not like I don't have plenty of worries, but I've

learned that I'm not going to spend my life looking back at the past, and

neither will spend the rest of my natural life constantly worrying, for it

does not good. What I did, after I came " awake " , was to go through all

these hurts, one or two things at a time, take them out and look at them in

relation to where I'd been and where I was going, resolved them, forgave,

and put them away, or rather threw them away. They were eating me up and

making me sicker and sicker. About the time I did that is when I found

these Groups here. I call that providential, no doubt in my heart or mind.

I believe that sometimes it's good to have a righteous anger, as it changes

a lot of things, and it's only right and fitting, but I no longer carry a

torch. What I think now is " Well, let's see, there must be something here

in this situation that I need to do, else I wouldn't be here, so I think

I'll look around to see what it is " . In some way, I believe that grief

teaches us how to look into the heart of another and understand where

they've been and maybe what it is that they need, or just to listen to them

and know that maybe I haven't been there, so I need to learn. Maybe there

is a purpose for our grief.

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