Guest guest Posted July 12, 2004 Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 An interesting note on CAPD - here in the US, I was told if my son has " mild CAPD " , it may fall under ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) accommodations, not IDEA (forget what it stands for, but it's development of an individual education plan (IEP), I'm sure you guys know). Main issue with that is that ADA accommodations could take a lot longer to implement, as opposed to getting an IEP, which has specific, relatively short (30 day) deadlines that the school has to address. Also, ADA accommodations could be called " unreasonable " in terms of cost or inconvenience, so I'm leaning towards trying to get him classified. Anybody have any experience with classification and an IEP versus ADA accommodations, or do most people deal with IEP's only? My son is very bright, but does average / below average work due to the noisy school environment. He is in a summer program with only 5 students, and he's doing much better in terms of paying attention and listening to instructions. And I've given him lists of things to do, even as few as 3 things, and he tends to forget / not hear the middle one. This is for a kid who is playing chess and Scrabble at age 7, and reads 120 page books. I will have his short term memory tested if possible too... Take care, RH > >>>> Hello, > >>>> I am new at this group. I have a daughter who is 30 years old who > >>> has > >>>> a clinical diagnosis of mitochondrial encephalopathy. She is > >>>> developmentally delayed, has speech and motor problems and > >>> deteriorates > >>>> cognitively, motor and behaviorally after viruses and infections. > >>> She > >>>> periodically becomes psychotic, racing around the house, yelling, > >>>> screaming, clapping her hands, and throwing things. She is on > >>>> Seroquel, an antipsychotic, Ativan, for anxiety, Trazodone for sleep > >>>> and Eskalith for mood swings and the mito cocktail. Lately, in spite > >>>> of the medication, she will have one of these " spells " following her > >>>> monthly period or after several days of activity. Does anyone have > >>> any > >>>> experience with this? She also has had a stroke like episode and has > >>>> intestinal dysmotility and is mentally retarded (mental age 4-5 > >>> years > >>>> on a good day) > >>>> Thanks, Shelby > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements contained > >>> herein are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of > >>> this e mail is entirely responsible for its content. List members are > >>> reminded of their responsibility to evaluate the content of the > >>> postings and consult with their physicians regarding changes in their > >>> own treatment. > >>> > >>> Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone who sends > >>> one is automatically moderated or removed depending on the severity of > >>> the attack. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2004 Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 My daughter has a 504 plan for accommodations. They need to be implemented the same way that an IEP does as far as the school making the accommodations. I could have her certified as health impaired and get her an IEP, but the 504 works well for the most part. All us schools have to have a 504 plan coordinator. ohgminion wrote: >An interesting note on CAPD - here in the US, I was told if my son >has " mild CAPD " , it may fall under ADA (Americans with Disabilities >Act) accommodations, not IDEA (forget what it stands for, but it's >development of an individual education plan (IEP), I'm sure you guys >know). > >Main issue with that is that ADA accommodations could take a lot >longer to implement, as opposed to getting an IEP, which has >specific, relatively short (30 day) deadlines that the school has to >address. Also, ADA accommodations could be called " unreasonable " in >terms of cost or inconvenience, so I'm leaning towards trying to get >him classified. > >Anybody have any experience with classification and an IEP versus ADA >accommodations, or do most people deal with IEP's only? > >My son is very bright, but does average / below average work due to >the noisy school environment. He is in a summer program with only 5 >students, and he's doing much better in terms of paying attention and >listening to instructions. > >And I've given him lists of things to do, even as few as 3 things, >and he tends to forget / not hear the middle one. This is for a kid >who is playing chess and Scrabble at age 7, and reads 120 page >books. I will have his short term memory tested if possible too... > >Take care, >RH > > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Hello, >>>>>>I am new at this group. I have a daughter who is 30 years old >>>>>> >>>>>> >who > > >>>>>has >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>a clinical diagnosis of mitochondrial encephalopathy. She is >>>>>>developmentally delayed, has speech and motor problems and >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>deteriorates >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>cognitively, motor and behaviorally after viruses and >>>>>> >>>>>> >infections. > > >>>>>She >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>periodically becomes psychotic, racing around the house, >>>>>> >>>>>> >yelling, > > >>>>>>screaming, clapping her hands, and throwing things. She is on >>>>>>Seroquel, an antipsychotic, Ativan, for anxiety, Trazodone for >>>>>> >>>>>> >sleep > > >>>>>>and Eskalith for mood swings and the mito cocktail. Lately, in >>>>>> >>>>>> >spite > > >>>>>>of the medication, she will have one of these " spells " >>>>>> >>>>>> >following her > > >>>>>>monthly period or after several days of activity. Does anyone >>>>>> >>>>>> >have > > >>>>>any >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>experience with this? She also has had a stroke like episode >>>>>> >>>>>> >and has > > >>>>>>intestinal dysmotility and is mentally retarded (mental age 4-5 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>years >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>on a good day) >>>>>>Thanks, Shelby >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements >>>>> >>>>> >contained > > >>>>>herein are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The >>>>> >>>>> >author of > > >>>>>this e mail is entirely responsible for its content. List >>>>> >>>>> >members are > > >>>>>reminded of their responsibility to evaluate the content of the >>>>>postings and consult with their physicians regarding changes in >>>>> >>>>> >their > > >>>>>own treatment. >>>>> >>>>>Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone who >>>>> >>>>> >sends > > >>>>>one is automatically moderated or removed depending on the >>>>> >>>>> >severity of > > >>>>>the attack. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2004 Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 RH As a teacher consultant in Michigan, I deal with this daily. We can certify a student as learning disabled with a proper CAPD evaluation and determination. We test these kids first and then make the CAPD referrel if necessary. We have an audiologist for the county that now has the software to do a CAPD evaluation. Before that people had to take their child to a hospital or some place special (here it meant outside the county) for an evaluation. It still has to be determined that the CAPD has a negative impact on their education. This results in an IEP and usually takes longer than the 30 school days. An extension has to be signed by the parents. This falls under ADA and IDEA, but more with IDEA. For a 504 plan, the plan can be written immediately. If your district has a 504 co-ordinator, they set up a meeting with the parent and a teacher and the principal if available. These plans have to be reviewed yearly (or less) just like an IEP. A student with a 504 plan has all the rights as one with an IEP under IDEA. This is mainly for students who don't need to be in a special education room, but needs accomodations. Our CAPD kids have FM sound systems put in their rooms. This a wireless system, but requires the teacher to wear a mike and the student can or may not (all of ours) wear an ear mold or headset and personal transmitting device. ADHD kids and the general population benefit from these systems. We have gone to infrared systems, because of an electrical problem that has developed since the lighting was upgraded. Another accomodation that is common for CAPD kids is to have extra time for assignments and tests and directions in print as well as orally. Students usually improve with age, not because the CAPD goes away, but they learn tricks to deal with it. For home, we suggest written directions. Things like what has to be done in the bathroom or before school or for a certain chore. I would suggest a 504 plan for your son from what you have written. I was on our local district ADA committee and this has more to do with things like braille signs, barrier free entrances, handicapped accessible bathrooms, etc. E-mail me privately if you want more info. laurie > > Reply-To: > Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 15:07:46 -0000 > To: > Subject: ADA vs. IDEA was Re: Help > > An interesting note on CAPD - here in the US, I was told if my son > has " mild CAPD " , it may fall under ADA (Americans with Disabilities > Act) accommodations, not IDEA (forget what it stands for, but it's > development of an individual education plan (IEP), I'm sure you guys > know). > > Main issue with that is that ADA accommodations could take a lot > longer to implement, as opposed to getting an IEP, which has > specific, relatively short (30 day) deadlines that the school has to > address. Also, ADA accommodations could be called " unreasonable " in > terms of cost or inconvenience, so I'm leaning towards trying to get > him classified. > > Anybody have any experience with classification and an IEP versus ADA > accommodations, or do most people deal with IEP's only? > > My son is very bright, but does average / below average work due to > the noisy school environment. He is in a summer program with only 5 > students, and he's doing much better in terms of paying attention and > listening to instructions. > > And I've given him lists of things to do, even as few as 3 things, > and he tends to forget / not hear the middle one. This is for a kid > who is playing chess and Scrabble at age 7, and reads 120 page > books. I will have his short term memory tested if possible too... > > Take care, > RH > > >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> I am new at this group. I have a daughter who is 30 years old > who >>>>> has >>>>>> a clinical diagnosis of mitochondrial encephalopathy. She is >>>>>> developmentally delayed, has speech and motor problems and >>>>> deteriorates >>>>>> cognitively, motor and behaviorally after viruses and > infections. >>>>> She >>>>>> periodically becomes psychotic, racing around the house, > yelling, >>>>>> screaming, clapping her hands, and throwing things. She is on >>>>>> Seroquel, an antipsychotic, Ativan, for anxiety, Trazodone for > sleep >>>>>> and Eskalith for mood swings and the mito cocktail. Lately, in > spite >>>>>> of the medication, she will have one of these " spells " > following her >>>>>> monthly period or after several days of activity. Does anyone > have >>>>> any >>>>>> experience with this? She also has had a stroke like episode > and has >>>>>> intestinal dysmotility and is mentally retarded (mental age 4-5 >>>>> years >>>>>> on a good day) >>>>>> Thanks, Shelby >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements > contained >>>>> herein are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The > author of >>>>> this e mail is entirely responsible for its content. List > members are >>>>> reminded of their responsibility to evaluate the content of the >>>>> postings and consult with their physicians regarding changes in > their >>>>> own treatment. >>>>> >>>>> Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone who > sends >>>>> one is automatically moderated or removed depending on the > severity of >>>>> the attack. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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