Re: Did anyone else have a traumatic birth?

[Guest guest]

i had a VERY easy birth. a scheduled c-section (repeat after s-section

with #1) and my daughter has torticollis and plagiocephaly. i guess it

was from how she was positioned inside me but certainly not from how

she came out. funny, with my first child i was induced with LOTS of

pitocin - didn't progress after 10 hours (dropping heart rate and all)

and she came out without any torticollis after all that trauma. who

knows. i often read that it's caused by the birth process and then in

parenthsis it says (except it can occur in c-sections) - my daughter

is an example of that.

--julie

>

> I had an emergency c-section after being given a dose of stadol - it

> caused my son's heart rate to drop. They put me under for the c-

> section and now my son has tort and plagio. The specialists all

> insist he was just lying in my birth canal one way which caused the

> tort, which in turn (no pun intended) caused the plagio, but how do

> they know this???? I got only one ultra sound early in my pregnancy

> to determine the sex - I wonder if when they pulled him out of my

> belly they injured his neck. I don't know though - they had put me

> under. Funny thing is, when I got his birth records, there was no

> mention of the stadol - which was the cause of the emergency c-

> section. Has anyone else experienced this?

>

[Guest guest]

The birth of my son was completely normal. In his case, his

torticollis was due to " intrauterine constraint " . In the third

trimester, his head position did not change. He spent a number of

weeks with one side of his head pushing on his shoulder. As a result

the SCM muscle became shortned / injured. Here is an excellent article

which explains the medical theory behind it.

http://www.contemporarypediatrics.com/contpeds/article/articleDetail.js

p?id=108032

While you shouldn't rule out all of the possibilities, there is

definitely a sound medical basis for what your specialists have told

you.

>

> I had an emergency c-section after being given a dose of stadol - it

> caused my son's heart rate to drop. They put me under for the c-

> section and now my son has tort and plagio. The specialists all

> insist he was just lying in my birth canal one way which caused the

> tort, which in turn (no pun intended) caused the plagio, but how do

> they know this???? I got only one ultra sound early in my pregnancy

> to determine the sex - I wonder if when they pulled him out of my

> belly they injured his neck. I don't know though - they had put me

> under. Funny thing is, when I got his birth records, there was no

> mention of the stadol - which was the cause of the emergency c-

> section. Has anyone else experienced this?

>

[Guest guest]

I went through a somewhat traumatic birth. Jakob was born 17 days

early. I tried a vaginal delivery, the vaccum was used and really

popped off hard of Jakob's head. He had some bad bruising which lead

to a pocket of fluid on his skull for a few month. I ended up having

a c-section also, good thing because there was a knot in the cord and

also the cord was wrapped around Jakob's neck loosely once. In terms

of his brachy and traumatic birth I am not sure if they go hand in

hand. He does not have tort, but I believe some of the other

circumstances could have lead to other issues.

Jakob 3/8/06

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> I had an emergency c-section after being given a dose of stadol - it

> caused my son's heart rate to drop. They put me under for the c-

> section and now my son has tort and plagio. The specialists all

> insist he was just lying in my birth canal one way which caused the

> tort, which in turn (no pun intended) caused the plagio, but how do

> they know this???? I got only one ultra sound early in my pregnancy

> to determine the sex - I wonder if when they pulled him out of my

> belly they injured his neck. I don't know though - they had put me

> under. Funny thing is, when I got his birth records, there was no

> mention of the stadol - which was the cause of the emergency c-

> section. Has anyone else experienced this?

>

[Guest guest]

I too had a similar delivery. My water broke and 10 hours later I was stuck at 8 cm. I took the stadol to take the edge off (what a horrible drug that is) and ended up with an emergency c-section about 2 hours later when the heart rate dropped suddenly. My son was attempting to make his way through the birth canal sunny side up and I wonder how long his head was pressed on my tail bone. He was born with a flat back of the head and his cone shaped head never really went away until he spent 10 weeks in a DOC band. Insurance won't pay for it and just denied the first appeal. Anyone have experience with United Healthcare second appeals for cosmetic reasons?

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[Guest guest]

Why do you think that about Stadol? I ask b/c my husband and I really feel like everything was FINE b/f I was given the Stadol. The hospital neglected to put it in my son;s birth records which makes me wonder.... Hovey <flyingchef777@...> wrote: I too had a similar delivery. My water broke and 10 hours later I was stuck at 8 cm. I took the stadol to take the edge off (what a horrible drug that is) and ended up with an emergency c-section about 2

hours later when the heart rate dropped suddenly. My son was attempting to make his way through the birth canal sunny side up and I wonder how long his head was pressed on my tail bone. He was born with a flat back of the head and his cone shaped head never really went away until he spent 10 weeks in a DOC band. Insurance won't pay for it and just denied the first appeal. Anyone have experience with United Healthcare second appeals for cosmetic reasons? Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates.

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[Guest guest]

My son's tort was caused by intrauterine restriction

since I'm 59 inches and he was 21 inches. His head

was really misshapen when he came out which I'm

guessing was also due to being in the birth canal too

long. He was 4 days late and it was 24 hours between

my water breaking and an emergency c-section. (I was

awake for it but don't remember much because I was

getting very sick, very fast due to something called

HELLP Syndrome.)

Audrey

10 mo, 2nd DOC Band 3/31/06

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> >

> > I had an emergency c-section after being given a

> dose of stadol - it

> > caused my son's heart rate to drop. They put me

> under for the c-

> > section and now my son has tort and plagio. The

> specialists all

> > insist he was just lying in my birth canal one way

> which caused the

> > tort, which in turn (no pun intended) caused the

> plagio, but how do

> > they know this???? I got only one ultra sound

> early in my pregnancy

> > to determine the sex - I wonder if when they

> pulled him out of my

> > belly they injured his neck. I don't know though

> - they had put me

> > under. Funny thing is, when I got his birth

> records, there was no

> > mention of the stadol - which was the cause of the

> emergency c-

> > section. Has anyone else experienced this?

> >

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[Guest guest]

My daughter decided she wanted to " walk " out of me. My water broke at

32 weeks and when I arrived at the hospital they found my daughters

feet " hanging out " of me. My hospital doesn't deliever less than 35

weeks so while trying to decided if they should transfer me or not

they just decided on an emergency C-section would be better than

risking the transfer. Everything was smooth until they got to her

head. It took a while because she " got stuck " was the term they

used. Now the question....did her head get stuck because of her

postioning inside and that caused the tort or was it her coming out

and injury to her neck what caused the tort. I will never know. My

daughter was in the NICU for 2 1/2 weeks and her basinet was literally

in a " nook " in the wall so in order to keep her from facing the wall

she was ALWAYS on her right side...thank you very much we now have

plagio. Its funny how all these things come together after you get

the diagnosis. In any event, I am just thankful my little girl is

doing well and after seeing pictures of everyones lil cuties in their

helmets I feel better about it and am looking forward to rounding her

little head out.

Eryn

mom of Donovan,8 and Gia 5 months tort/plagio PT started, july 25th

eval day

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> I had an emergency c-section after being given a dose of stadol - it

> caused my son's heart rate to drop. They put me under for the c-

> section and now my son has tort and plagio. The specialists all

> insist he was just lying in my birth canal one way which caused the

> tort, which in turn (no pun intended) caused the plagio, but how do

> they know this???? I got only one ultra sound early in my pregnancy

> to determine the sex - I wonder if when they pulled him out of my

> belly they injured his neck. I don't know though - they had put me

> under. Funny thing is, when I got his birth records, there was no

> mention of the stadol - which was the cause of the emergency c-

> section. Has anyone else experienced this?

>

[Guest guest]

It can be due to the child's position in utero and not actually

related to the birthing experience. Technicially my births were

easy. Yes, I was induced with both but it was to regulate

contractions. na dropped early and then was +1 (under pelvic

bone) for 10 days. She was sunny side up. Kiersten didn't drop as

early but was +2 for about 24 hours. na's was obvious from

birth but her tort didn't become noticable until 3 months. A tort

diagnosis around 3 months is not uncommon because that is when

infants have enough head control for others to realize their

preferences. Kiersten did not appear to have plagio at birth but

was diagnosed with tort at 5 months (first suspected at 3 months).

We did everything known to prevent her tort and plagio from birth

(hindsight from na). Some kids (IMO) have very soft heads and

with any neck involvement (whether inutero position or traumatic

birth) will develop plagio.

na, DOC Grad X2 Feb 04

Kiersten, DOC Grad Apr 04

www.thefilyaws.com/plagio/plagio.html

> >

> > I had an emergency c-section after being given a dose of stadol -

it

> > caused my son's heart rate to drop. They put me under for the c-

> > section and now my son has tort and plagio. The specialists all

> > insist he was just lying in my birth canal one way which caused

the

> > tort, which in turn (no pun intended) caused the plagio, but how

do

> > they know this???? I got only one ultra sound early in my

pregnancy

> > to determine the sex - I wonder if when they pulled him out of

my

> > belly they injured his neck. I don't know though - they had put

me

> > under. Funny thing is, when I got his birth records, there was

no

> > mention of the stadol - which was the cause of the emergency c-

> > section. Has anyone else experienced this?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

simon was head down for the last 4 months which seems to be the cause

of his torticollis. he was a week late. i was in labor for 12hrs had a

epidural the doctor that was on call was horrible he told me that i

shouldnt need a csection then told the nurses to get me ready for one.

i was lucky that the doctors changed shift shortly after that. the

doctor that came on shift said i shouldnt need a csection that it

seemed like he should just come right out but for some reason he was

stuck and no one could figure out why so we decided to try the vacuum.

the first vacuum they tried was to small and didnt work the second one

worked but took alot of me pushing and them pulling and of course the

epidural was wearing off. now that we think back on all that stuff we

realize that maybe the reason he was stuck was because his ear was to

his shoulder but we will never know. i dont think alot of obs know

about torticollis or plagio their field is mainly taking care of mom

and taking care of baby while its in the womb once its out its handed

off to the pediatrician.

aron holwig