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Quoted from another site:

" If you exert yourself beyond the ~20 minutes of ATP stored in the

cell, the mitochondrial damage will prevent the oxygen exchange that

would normally replenish the muscle cell with energy. The next step

is cellular damage, and even cellular death - apoptosis. The body's

reaction to apoptosis is to produce a great deal of uric acid, which

halts the cell death. "

If so, this would explain the crystals that make my urine look like

soup!

Thanks,

Mike

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Mike,

I'm not sure where this quote came from. What we do know is that each one of us

is different. Some can handle an hour or even more. Some a half hour - 20

minutes and even less. Our bodys are brilliant in that if we listen to them, we

will be able to realize where that limit is.

If we do more than we should, we build up lactic acid which is not a good thing.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactic_acid

I'm not sure what you meant by your urine looking like soup. Do you mean it

gets dark and this is happening after exertion? If you mean if by dark, you mean

deeply orange, it may be that the you are dehydrated so the urine is

concentrated -- the body's mechanism to conserve water. This is something to

definitely run by your doctor but I do know that I seem to require more water

than most.

Alice

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Hi Mike,

It would be interesting to know the context of this quote. Are they

talking about exercise in healthy athletes or in a specific patient

population? Based on what I've read elsewhere, I have questions

about the accuracy of these statements, but hey, I'm no expert. Just

wondered about the source. An academic site? A commercial site? Who

is the author?

B

> Quoted from another site:

>

> " If you exert yourself beyond the ~20 minutes of ATP stored in the

> cell, the mitochondrial damage will prevent the oxygen exchange

that

> would normally replenish the muscle cell with energy. The next

step

> is cellular damage, and even cellular death - apoptosis. The

body's

> reaction to apoptosis is to produce a great deal of uric acid,

which

> halts the cell death. "

>

> If so, this would explain the crystals that make my urine look

like

> soup!

>

> Thanks,

>

> Mike

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Ain't true for everyone - depends on what wrong with the

mitochondria. I (and certain others with mitochondrial disorders,

according to studies done in TX) do well with aerobic exercise.

Theory is that the extra ATP produced by aerobic metabolism allows me

to exert myself, but the anaerobic metabolism that ends up supporting

light activities like walking is not working right for me, so I get

tired and lactic acid gets produced.

YMMV is the rule with these types of disorders, only common thread is

that many of us have muscle weakness, many of us have cognitive

symptoms, and many of us respond very poorly to stress or other

illness.

Take care,

RH

> Quoted from another site:

>

> " If you exert yourself beyond the ~20 minutes of ATP stored in the

> cell, the mitochondrial damage will prevent the oxygen exchange

that

> would normally replenish the muscle cell with energy. The next

step

> is cellular damage, and even cellular death - apoptosis. The

body's

> reaction to apoptosis is to produce a great deal of uric acid,

which

> halts the cell death. "

>

> If so, this would explain the crystals that make my urine look like

> soup!

>

> Thanks,

>

> Mike

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