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Hey guys,

Well, I finally got my muscle biopsy results and I must say, that even though

they have kinda confused me, it does confirm that I have mito basically. Its

25 pages in all! But to give a basic summary Dr. Shoffner states that given my

clinical features, metabolic features and OXPHOS enzymology that they are

consistant with a MELAS varisny. I do not have the common MELAS gene though

(3243) but he is going to continue with mtDNA sequencing to try and pinpoint

which

one I have. Also abnormal was my lactate acid which was 23 (normal was 3-12)

and my lactic acid/pyruvate ratio was about 28. My pyruvate wasnt abnormal

though, but just within limits (few points below being high) at .83 (normal is

between .3 and .9) Also it states that I have multi-complex defects in OXPHOS.

Unfortunately, it doesnt state which complexes have the defects! My local mito

dr is going to call Dr. Shoffner to find that out though but I have talked with

his office and they said that that does mean I have multiple complexes that

have defects but my Dr. needs to call to get that info. I wish I knew which

ones though. I'll let yall know when I find out. As for the sequencing, that

will

take up to 12 months, which I dont mind since I do have the diagnosis of mito

now. Also several of my amino acids were high in my blood and low in urine,

but it was supposively not significant. I know yall talked about having low

amino acids in urine and I think even though they say its not significant, its a

common finding in mito. Anyways, the only other thing that came back abnormal

was something called the MTHFR mutation and it states that I have the

heterozygote C677T form of it. This supposively has something to do with the

metabolism of homocystiene and folate. I dont know much else about it but it

seems to

be not as big a deal as the other stuff. Anyways, just wanted to let yall know.

I see my mito dr. June 3rd so hopefully will learn more then. I'll keep yall

posted.

take care,

Adrienne

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Hi Adrienne,

I'm glad you finally have answers. I know how difficult it is to wait

for those.

Sorry that is does confirm the mito as none of us really want that.

It must be such a relief to finally know what you are dealing with..

You have been in my family's prayers.

So have the rest of you who have been struggling.

Take care,

AnnMarie- Complex IV

Married to my best friend Rick, mom of (14), (11), Cassandra(6)

and Joe(4) - complex IV, lactic acidosis, CP, tethered chord syndrome,

dysautonomia, and a smile that never quits :-)

moonchild62579@... wrote:

> Hey guys,

> Well, I finally got my muscle biopsy results and I must say, that even

> though

> they have kinda confused me, it does confirm that I have mito

> basically. Its

> 25 pages in all! But to give a basic summary Dr. Shoffner states that

> given my

> clinical features, metabolic features and OXPHOS enzymology that they are

> consistant with a MELAS varisny. I do not have the common MELAS gene

> though

> (3243) but he is going to continue with mtDNA sequencing to try and

> pinpoint which

> one I have. Also abnormal was my lactate acid which was 23 (normal was

> 3-12)

> and my lactic acid/pyruvate ratio was about 28. My pyruvate wasnt

> abnormal

> though, but just within limits (few points below being high) at .83

> (normal is

> between .3 and .9) Also it states that I have multi-complex defects in

> OXPHOS.

> Unfortunately, it doesnt state which complexes have the defects! My

> local mito

> dr is going to call Dr. Shoffner to find that out though but I have

> talked with

> his office and they said that that does mean I have multiple complexes

> that

> have defects but my Dr. needs to call to get that info. I wish I knew

> which

> ones though. I'll let yall know when I find out. As for the

> sequencing, that will

> take up to 12 months, which I dont mind since I do have the diagnosis

> of mito

> now. Also several of my amino acids were high in my blood and low in

> urine,

> but it was supposively not significant. I know yall talked about

> having low

> amino acids in urine and I think even though they say its not

> significant, its a

> common finding in mito. Anyways, the only other thing that came back

> abnormal

> was something called the MTHFR mutation and it states that I have the

> heterozygote C677T form of it. This supposively has something to do

> with the

> metabolism of homocystiene and folate. I dont know much else about it

> but it seems to

> be not as big a deal as the other stuff. Anyways, just wanted to let

> yall know.

> I see my mito dr. June 3rd so hopefully will learn more then. I'll

> keep yall

> posted.

> take care,

> Adrienne

>

>

>

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Adrienne,

glad you finally got your results. I know how hard it is to wait for someone to

find a solid diagnosis.good luck with the mtDNA tests

Betsy, Comples IV

Re: muscle biopsy results!

Hi Adrienne,

I'm glad you finally have answers. I know how difficult it is to wait

for those.

Sorry that is does confirm the mito as none of us really want that.

It must be such a relief to finally know what you are dealing with..

You have been in my family's prayers.

So have the rest of you who have been struggling.

Take care,

AnnMarie- Complex IV

Married to my best friend Rick, mom of (14), (11), Cassandra(6)

and Joe(4) - complex IV, lactic acidosis, CP, tethered chord syndrome,

dysautonomia, and a smile that never quits :-)

moonchild62579@... wrote:

> Hey guys,

> Well, I finally got my muscle biopsy results and I must say, that even

> though

> they have kinda confused me, it does confirm that I have mito

> basically. Its

> 25 pages in all! But to give a basic summary Dr. Shoffner states that

> given my

> clinical features, metabolic features and OXPHOS enzymology that they are

> consistant with a MELAS varisny. I do not have the common MELAS gene

> though

> (3243) but he is going to continue with mtDNA sequencing to try and

> pinpoint which

> one I have. Also abnormal was my lactate acid which was 23 (normal was

> 3-12)

> and my lactic acid/pyruvate ratio was about 28. My pyruvate wasnt

> abnormal

> though, but just within limits (few points below being high) at .83

> (normal is

> between .3 and .9) Also it states that I have multi-complex defects in

> OXPHOS.

> Unfortunately, it doesnt state which complexes have the defects! My

> local mito

> dr is going to call Dr. Shoffner to find that out though but I have

> talked with

> his office and they said that that does mean I have multiple complexes

> that

> have defects but my Dr. needs to call to get that info. I wish I knew

> which

> ones though. I'll let yall know when I find out. As for the

> sequencing, that will

> take up to 12 months, which I dont mind since I do have the diagnosis

> of mito

> now. Also several of my amino acids were high in my blood and low in

> urine,

> but it was supposively not significant. I know yall talked about

> having low

> amino acids in urine and I think even though they say its not

> significant, its a

> common finding in mito. Anyways, the only other thing that came back

> abnormal

> was something called the MTHFR mutation and it states that I have the

> heterozygote C677T form of it. This supposively has something to do

> with the

> metabolism of homocystiene and folate. I dont know much else about it

> but it seems to

> be not as big a deal as the other stuff. Anyways, just wanted to let

> yall know.

> I see my mito dr. June 3rd so hopefully will learn more then. I'll

> keep yall

> posted.

> take care,

> Adrienne

>

>

>

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And we knew it all along didn't we Adrienne. I also think your Mom has Mito as

we discussed when I first met you online. It's good to have the answers and I'm

sure there are more to come but now they can't say it's " all in your head " and

you have some direction.

Strangely enough, after all this time I feel that congratulations are in order.

Not a congratulation that you have a confirmed diagnosis but because now there

is no element of doubt.

Hugs,

Alice

Adrienne,

glad you finally got your results. I know how hard it is to wait for someone

to find a solid diagnosis.good luck with the mtDNA tests

Betsy, Comples IV

Hi Adrienne,

I'm glad you finally have answers. I know how difficult it is to wait for

those. Sorry that is does confirm the mito as none of us really want that. It

must be such a relief to finally know what you are dealing with..You have been

in my family's prayers.

So have the rest of you who have been struggling.

Take care, AnnMarie- Complex IV

Hey guys,

Well, I finally got my muscle biopsy results and I must say, that even though

they have kinda confused me, it does confirm that I have mito basically. Its 25

pages in all! But to give a basic summary Dr. Shoffner states that given my

clinical features, metabolic features and OXPHOS enzymology that they are

consistant with a MELAS varisny. I do not have the common MELAS gene

though(3243) but he is going to continue with mtDNA sequencing to try and

pinpoint which one I have. Also abnormal was my lactate acid which was 23

(normal was 3-12) and my lactic acid/pyruvate ratio was about 28. My pyruvate

wasnt

abnormal though, but just within limits (few points below being high) at .83

(normal is between .3 and .9) Also it states that I have multi-complex defects

in OXPHOS. Unfortunately, it doesnt state which complexes have the defects! My

local mito dr is going to call Dr. Shoffner to find that out though but I have

talked with his office and they said that that does mean I have multiple

complexes that have defects but my Dr. needs to call to get that info. I wish I

knew which ones though. I'll let yall know when I find out. As for the

sequencing, that will take up to 12 months, which I dont mind since I do have

the diagnosis of mito now. Also several of my amino acids were high in my blood

and low in urine, but it was supposively not significant. I know yall talked

about having low amino acids in urine and I think even though they say its not

significant, its a common finding in mito. Anyways, the only other thing that

came back abnormal was something called the MTHFR mutation and it states that I

have the heterozygote C677T form of it. This supposively has something to do

with the metabolism of homocystiene and folate. I dont know much else about it

but it seems to be not as big a deal as the other stuff. Anyways, just wanted to

let yall know.

I see my mito dr. June 3rd so hopefully will learn more then. I'll keep yall

posted. Adrienne >

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Adrienne, I second Alice's congratulations. This was a hard-won

diagnosis. You have certainly earned it! I hope one day that we all

won't have to work so hard to get answers, but until then, it is

inspiring to observe yet another young woman who refused to give up.

Kudos!

P.S. You might enjoy this diagnosis cartoon....

http://www.spiralnotebook.org/poppingthecork/index.html

Barbara

> Hey guys,

> Well, I finally got my muscle biopsy results and I must say, that

even though

> they have kinda confused me, it does confirm that I have mito

basically. Its

> 25 pages in all! But to give a basic summary Dr. Shoffner states

that given my

> clinical features, metabolic features and OXPHOS enzymology that

they are

> consistant with a MELAS varisny. I do not have the common MELAS

gene though

> (3243) but he is going to continue with mtDNA sequencing to try

and pinpoint which

> one I have. Also abnormal was my lactate acid which was 23 (normal

was 3-12)

> and my lactic acid/pyruvate ratio was about 28. My pyruvate wasnt

abnormal

> though, but just within limits (few points below being high)

at .83 (normal is

> between .3 and .9) Also it states that I have multi-complex

defects in OXPHOS.

> Unfortunately, it doesnt state which complexes have the defects!

My local mito

> dr is going to call Dr. Shoffner to find that out though but I

have talked with

> his office and they said that that does mean I have multiple

complexes that

> have defects but my Dr. needs to call to get that info. I wish I

knew which

> ones though. I'll let yall know when I find out. As for the

sequencing, that will

> take up to 12 months, which I dont mind since I do have the

diagnosis of mito

> now. Also several of my amino acids were high in my blood and low

in urine,

> but it was supposively not significant. I know yall talked about

having low

> amino acids in urine and I think even though they say its not

significant, its a

> common finding in mito. Anyways, the only other thing that came

back abnormal

> was something called the MTHFR mutation and it states that I have

the

> heterozygote C677T form of it. This supposively has something to

do with the

> metabolism of homocystiene and folate. I dont know much else about

it but it seems to

> be not as big a deal as the other stuff. Anyways, just wanted to

let yall know.

> I see my mito dr. June 3rd so hopefully will learn more then. I'll

keep yall

> posted.

> take care,

> Adrienne

>

>

>

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Adrienne,

I will also go along with Alice's congratulations. We knew you

had mito before, but I know it is a relief to be able to have it

confirmed. You have been through a long, hard fight to get to this

point. I am continuing to keep you in my thoughts and prayers.

Smiles,

a

On Fri, 14 May 2004 09:29:10 EDT moonchild62579@... writes:

Hey guys,

Well, I finally got my muscle biopsy results and I must say, that even

though

they have kinda confused me, it does confirm that I have mito basically.

Its

25 pages in all! But to give a basic summary Dr. Shoffner states that

given my

clinical features, metabolic features and OXPHOS enzymology that they are

consistant with a MELAS varisny. I do not have the common MELAS gene

though

(3243) but he is going to continue with mtDNA sequencing to try and

pinpoint which

one I have. Also abnormal was my lactate acid which was 23 (normal was

3-12)

and my lactic acid/pyruvate ratio was about 28. My pyruvate wasnt

abnormal

though, but just within limits (few points below being high) at .83

(normal is

between .3 and .9) Also it states that I have multi-complex defects in

OXPHOS.

Unfortunately, it doesnt state which complexes have the defects! My local

mito

dr is going to call Dr. Shoffner to find that out though but I have

talked with

his office and they said that that does mean I have multiple complexes

that

have defects but my Dr. needs to call to get that info. I wish I knew

which

ones though. I'll let yall know when I find out. As for the sequencing,

that will

take up to 12 months, which I dont mind since I do have the diagnosis of

mito

now. Also several of my amino acids were high in my blood and low in

urine,

but it was supposively not significant. I know yall talked about having

low

amino acids in urine and I think even though they say its not

significant, its a

common finding in mito. Anyways, the only other thing that came back

abnormal

was something called the MTHFR mutation and it states that I have the

heterozygote C677T form of it. This supposively has something to do with

the

metabolism of homocystiene and folate. I dont know much else about it but

it seems to

be not as big a deal as the other stuff. Anyways, just wanted to let yall

know.

I see my mito dr. June 3rd so hopefully will learn more then. I'll keep

yall

posted.

take care,

Adrienne

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Adrienne

I am so very happy for you, that you are finally getting answers. I know I

was very relieved to find out it really wasn't in my head.

I'll continue to keep you in my thoughts.

laurie

> From: moonchild62579@...

> Reply-To:

> Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 09:29:10 EDT

> To:

> Subject: muscle biopsy results!

>

> Hey guys,

> Well, I finally got my muscle biopsy results and I must say, that even though

> they have kinda confused me, it does confirm that I have mito basically. Its

> 25 pages in all! But to give a basic summary Dr. Shoffner states that given my

> clinical features, metabolic features and OXPHOS enzymology that they are

> consistant with a MELAS varisny. I do not have the common MELAS gene though

> (3243) but he is going to continue with mtDNA sequencing to try and pinpoint

> which

> one I have. Also abnormal was my lactate acid which was 23 (normal was 3-12)

> and my lactic acid/pyruvate ratio was about 28. My pyruvate wasnt abnormal

> though, but just within limits (few points below being high) at .83 (normal is

> between .3 and .9) Also it states that I have multi-complex defects in OXPHOS.

> Unfortunately, it doesnt state which complexes have the defects! My local mito

> dr is going to call Dr. Shoffner to find that out though but I have talked

> with

> his office and they said that that does mean I have multiple complexes that

> have defects but my Dr. needs to call to get that info. I wish I knew which

> ones though. I'll let yall know when I find out. As for the sequencing, that

> will

> take up to 12 months, which I dont mind since I do have the diagnosis of mito

> now. Also several of my amino acids were high in my blood and low in urine,

> but it was supposively not significant. I know yall talked about having low

> amino acids in urine and I think even though they say its not significant, its

> a

> common finding in mito. Anyways, the only other thing that came back abnormal

> was something called the MTHFR mutation and it states that I have the

> heterozygote C677T form of it. This supposively has something to do with the

> metabolism of homocystiene and folate. I dont know much else about it but it

> seems to

> be not as big a deal as the other stuff. Anyways, just wanted to let yall

> know.

> I see my mito dr. June 3rd so hopefully will learn more then. I'll keep yall

> posted.

> take care,

> Adrienne

>

>

>

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Adrienne,

I'm so glad you finally have some answers, but I'm sure like the rest of

you, you would have preferred to win a sweepstakes instead. Now you

KNOW you belong here, as if there was ever any doubt. I hope this is

somewhat easier for you than not knowing for sure what the dx was.

Hugs,

moonchild62579@... wrote:

>Hey guys,

>Well, I finally got my muscle biopsy results and I must say, that even though

>they have kinda confused me, it does confirm that I have mito basically. Its

>25 pages in all! But to give a basic summary Dr. Shoffner states that given my

>clinical features, metabolic features and OXPHOS enzymology that they are

>consistant with a MELAS varisny. I do not have the common MELAS gene though

>(3243) but he is going to continue with mtDNA sequencing to try and pinpoint

which

>one I have. Also abnormal was my lactate acid which was 23 (normal was 3-12)

>and my lactic acid/pyruvate ratio was about 28. My pyruvate wasnt abnormal

>though, but just within limits (few points below being high) at .83 (normal is

>between .3 and .9) Also it states that I have multi-complex defects in OXPHOS.

>Unfortunately, it doesnt state which complexes have the defects! My local mito

>dr is going to call Dr. Shoffner to find that out though but I have talked with

>his office and they said that that does mean I have multiple complexes that

>have defects but my Dr. needs to call to get that info. I wish I knew which

>ones though. I'll let yall know when I find out. As for the sequencing, that

will

>take up to 12 months, which I dont mind since I do have the diagnosis of mito

>now. Also several of my amino acids were high in my blood and low in urine,

>but it was supposively not significant. I know yall talked about having low

>amino acids in urine and I think even though they say its not significant, its

a

>common finding in mito. Anyways, the only other thing that came back abnormal

>was something called the MTHFR mutation and it states that I have the

>heterozygote C677T form of it. This supposively has something to do with the

>metabolism of homocystiene and folate. I dont know much else about it but it

seems to

>be not as big a deal as the other stuff. Anyways, just wanted to let yall know.

>I see my mito dr. June 3rd so hopefully will learn more then. I'll keep yall

>posted.

>take care,

>Adrienne

>

>

>

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Hi Adrienne,

I'm glad you finally recieved your results but I'm sorry that you

have mito. If you don't mind, could I ask you a question? I just

received my preliminary results last week and the report is only a

page and a half. I was very curious when I read that yours was 25

pages. My muscle was tested for the following:

- Hematoxylin & eosin

- Gomori trichrome

- NADH-TR

- SDH

- ATPase

- Acid Phosphatase,

- COX

- myophosphorylase

- myoadenylate deaminase

- phosphofructokinase

The only oustanding test is the one for CPT. Everything was negative

except for Type II muscle atrophy. Can you tell me what testing was

done on yours that was not done on mine. Are the tests standard or

do they base the tests on symptoms? I had my biopsy done at Columbia

in NY. Where did you have yours? Sorry for all the questions but I

want to make sure they did all the tests.

Thanks for your help.

Lynn

> Hey guys,

> Well, I finally got my muscle biopsy results and I must say, that

even though

> they have kinda confused me, it does confirm that I have mito

basically. Its

> 25 pages in all! But to give a basic summary Dr. Shoffner states

that given my

> clinical features, metabolic features and OXPHOS enzymology that

they are

> consistant with a MELAS varisny. I do not have the common MELAS

gene though

> (3243) but he is going to continue with mtDNA sequencing to try

and pinpoint which

> one I have. Also abnormal was my lactate acid which was 23 (normal

was 3-12)

> and my lactic acid/pyruvate ratio was about 28. My pyruvate wasnt

abnormal

> though, but just within limits (few points below being high)

at .83 (normal is

> between .3 and .9) Also it states that I have multi-complex

defects in OXPHOS.

> Unfortunately, it doesnt state which complexes have the defects!

My local mito

> dr is going to call Dr. Shoffner to find that out though but I

have talked with

> his office and they said that that does mean I have multiple

complexes that

> have defects but my Dr. needs to call to get that info. I wish I

knew which

> ones though. I'll let yall know when I find out. As for the

sequencing, that will

> take up to 12 months, which I dont mind since I do have the

diagnosis of mito

> now. Also several of my amino acids were high in my blood and low

in urine,

> but it was supposively not significant. I know yall talked about

having low

> amino acids in urine and I think even though they say its not

significant, its a

> common finding in mito. Anyways, the only other thing that came

back abnormal

> was something called the MTHFR mutation and it states that I have

the

> heterozygote C677T form of it. This supposively has something to

do with the

> metabolism of homocystiene and folate. I dont know much else about

it but it seems to

> be not as big a deal as the other stuff. Anyways, just wanted to

let yall know.

> I see my mito dr. June 3rd so hopefully will learn more then. I'll

keep yall

> posted.

> take care,

> Adrienne

>

>

>

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Hi guys,

I just wanted to thank everyone for their responses about my muscle biopsy

results. Like several said, its kinda a catch 22 or whatnot to celebrate having

a definite diagnosis, but its getting the ball rolling in many courts- trying

to get back onto my father's insurance, getting SSD/SSI, getting better

treatment and seeing my drs more often. I had been dealing with sesonal

allergies

these past few wks and now I believe I have respiratory infections and other

stuff going on- I had felt like I was just beginning to improve with my symptoms

and now this has just knocked me down a bit again- really making my GI

symptoms and fatigue and dizziness bad. I might be going to see my dr Friday

about

this- cant see him any sooner just cuz I have so many other things going on. See

my lawyer tomorrow and go back to cardiologist Monday. I hope to respond to

several posts soon that I have saved but just cant right now, hard to even sit

up. I'll keep yall posted. Everyones in my thoughts and prayers.

take care,

Adrienne

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