Guest guest Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 Hi , orthos vary widely on this. mine used the starscanner on each visit so we got a printout of the outline of her head as it progressed, and the measurements. some use callipers (sp?) to measure and some just go by look. The measurements are nice to have but not really needed by the ortho to adjust the band. some people start and end treatment and never get meaurements. you should ask if you can get them, but don't worry too much if that isn't the way they do things. good luck. -christine mom to sydney/ 10 mo /starband grad 10-06 > > I am new to this site, and I have noticed many of you mentioning your > child has made progress because their measurements have improved. My > son has been in his helmet for 4 weeks and no one has ever taken a > measurement. I think his head is improving but now I am worried how we > will mark his progress with no measurements taken? Any advice would be > appreciated. > > Thanks, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 At III's 1 month appt. they weren't going to measure, but I asked them too, so they did. At the next visit ask them to measure. I will have them measure my son's head every month at his appts. Tamra Mommy to III 15 months old (13 months corrected STARBand started on 10-3-06 Southeast Texasdemorelisa <lademore@...> wrote: I am new to this site, and I have noticed many of you mentioning your child has made progress because their measurements have improved. My son has been in his helmet for 4 weeks and no one has ever taken a measurement. I think his head is improving but now I am worried how we will mark his progress with no measurements taken? Any advice would be appreciated.Thanks, Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 What kind of band does your son have? Where did he get it from? The orthotist should be able to provide you with measurements. I know that DOCband providers typically don't take measurements on a regular basis; they compare the child's head shape to that of the casting mold. We were fortunate that our orthotist had a STARscanner so my son was scanned every three weeks when we went in for an adjustment. Molly California Nicolas, 13 months, tort & plagio, STARband 4/25/06-9/12/06, Graduate! , 3.5 , 7 Measurements I am new to this site, and I have noticed many of you mentioning your child has made progress because their measurements have improved. My son has been in his helmet for 4 weeks and no one has ever taken a measurement. I think his head is improving but now I am worried how we will mark his progress with no measurements taken? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks, For more plagio info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 Could any please share with me what measurements of assemmtry are considered mild, moderate and severe for positional plagio. We had our daughter measured again today to decide whether or not to band with CT. She is improving with positioning, but she is six months now so we are trying to make a decision. She has 12mm of cranial vault assemmetry, but has improved 4mm in the last 3 weeks. It is a tough decision. Thanks, Missy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 Here is some information regarding measurements. • Cephalic Ratio = Cranial Breadth / Cranial Length. An ideal ratio would be 0.78 or 78%. Brachycephaly Severity - normal - 73-83%; moderate - 83.1% to 87.9%; severe - 88% and higher. Scaphocephaly Severity - normal - 73-83%; moderate - 68.1% to 72.9%; severe - 68% and below. • Oblique at 30 deg (US1 and US2) = Length of diagonal taken at 30° on each side (30° corresponds to the corner of the eye). The subtraction of US1 and US2 gives an indication of the asymmetry of the head. An asymmetry between 0-3 mm is normal; <6 mm is very mild; 6-10 mm is mild; 10-15 mm is moderate; 15+ mm is severe • Cranial Vault Asymmetry Index (CVAI): the percentage difference in plagio, (100%-(US1/US2)). 0-3 mm normal Molly California Nicolas, 16.5 months, tort & plagio, STARband 4/25/06-9/12/06, Graduate! , 4 , 7 Measurements Could any please share with me what measurements of assemmtry are considered mild, moderate and severe for positional plagio. We had our daughter measured again today to decide whether or not to band with CT. She is improving with positioning, but she is six months now so we are trying to make a decision. She has 12mm of cranial vault assemmetry, but has improved 4mm in the last 3 weeks. It is a tough decision. Thanks, Missy For more plagio info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 the cephalic index which is how many standard deviations above/below your child is cranial width divided by cranial length X100 - in your case that would be 77.4 I am not sure how old your son is but the average for a 0-6 month old boy is 73.7 +1Standard Deviation is 78.7 for a 6-12 month old boy the average is 78 with -1SD is 71.4 and +1 SD is 84.6 so with that being said it sounds like your son is mild as far as cephalic index or how they measure brachycephaly. Which means his head is most likely not flat across the back. The circumfrence is just the size of your babies head at this time - they will measure it to show that their is growth over the time the baby is in the band. - they also measure this at the well baby check ups. The cranial vault assymetry is the highest peak on the right side - the highest peak on the left side. In your son's case he measured a 17mm which means he is in the severe category (my daughter measured a 19mm but is now down to a 9mm) The average child would measure somewhere between 0-3mm. The skull base assymetry is basically middle of the back of head to ear on each side, then subtracted by each. Your son measured a 15mm which is again on the bottom end of the severe side (my daughter measured a 9mm) Average child would measure between 0-3mm. the good news is that because of the severity of your son's measurements insurance will likely pay for it thru an appeal. What type of insurance do you have? You could probably call CT and ask for a copy of his measurements to ensure that they are accurate - they gave us our copy. Hope this helps Mom to Madison 10 1/2 months DOC Band 3/30/07mom2emnbec <funwith4@...> wrote: I swear there was a link or explanation on here or plagiocephaly.org but i cant find it anywhere. what am i missing? ct didnt give us his measurements so i requested them from his ped but now havent a clue what they mean. there are a bunch tht are letters-letters and i can find out what the letters mean from the plagio site but can't find what is "normal". the ones that are actually words arecranial width 120" length 155circumference 45.1traditional cranial vault asym. 15cranial vault asymmetry 17skull-base asymmetery 15 Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 We are not in the band yet, we are going on tuesday to get casted and then getting fitted nov.20th. We're in the process of letting our friends and family know and it's been going really well! Good luck with your decision!Barbie Rucker <barbierucker@...> wrote: Hi . Mohammad said he would recommend a helmet. I am waiting to see the pediatric plastic surgeon (that my pediatrician recommended). I have 2 more weeks to wait. It took a month just to get an appointment. I want them to check her for Tortocollis too. How is Alison doing with her band? How did she transition at night? Thanks for your input. Barbie:) Mackie <nclmck > wrote: Hi Barbie! I'm and new to this, we just went to our consult at CT and Alison was 12mm which is 1.2cm and we are going to band. 1cm=10mm. Our insurance will cover a band at 6mm. What did Mohammad say?Barbie Rucker <barbierucker > wrote: Hi group, I just had my daughter's head measured at AOI by Mohammad (for the locals). My daughter has a 1 cm difference. Is that considered mild? Anyone else put their child in a band or helmet with 1 cm difference?? Just curious. thanks, Barbie __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 This would be moderate (10mm). We banded at 8mm (so yes, less than 1 cm) and I am SO glad we did. Good luck in your decision. lisa > > > > Hi group, > > I just had my daughter's head measured at AOI by Mohammad (for > the locals). My daughter has a 1 cm difference. Is that considered > mild? Anyone else put their child in a band or helmet with 1 cm > difference?? Just curious. > > > > thanks, > > Barbie > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 Thanks , That is exactly what I wanted to hear--that others have banded with less of a difference. I appreciate your response. How long was your child banded with an 8mm difference. Sorry if you have already shared that info. I don't read every comment posted on the group site. And, did you have a helmet or band? Thanks, BRlka_236 <lka_236@...> wrote: This would be moderate (10mm). We banded at 8mm (so yes, less than 1 cm) and I am SO glad we did. Good luck in your decision.lisa> >> > Hi group,> > I just had my daughter's head measured at AOI by Mohammad (for > the locals). My daughter has a 1 cm difference. Is that considered > mild? Anyone else put their child in a band or helmet with 1 cm > difference?? Just curious.> > > > thanks,> > Barbie> > > > __________________________________________________> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 My son has flattening on the side (mild) and now has flattening on the back. I can understand how they measure the asymmetry from one side to another but how do they measure or determine the degree of flatness if it's on the back of the head?lka_236 <lka_236@...> wrote: This would be moderate (10mm). We banded at 8mm (so yes, less than 1 cm) and I am SO glad we did. Good luck in your decision.lisa> >> > Hi group,> > I just had my daughter's head measured at AOI by Mohammad (for > the locals). My daughter has a 1 cm difference. Is that considered > mild? Anyone else put their child in a band or helmet with 1 cm > difference?? Just curious.> > > > thanks,> > Barbie> > > > __________________________________________________> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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