Re: Frequency of medication adjustments

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In a message dated 1/4/2005 7:11:03 AM Eastern Standard Time,

artisticgroom@... writes:

> They also state that the dosage is reflected within 2-3 weeks on lab tests.

> This sounds to me like the information we have been given by our doctors

> that it takes a full 6-8 weeks for the T4 to be felt is FALSE

i have recently wondered about that info about T4 building up and taking 4-6

weeks plus to show up. Maybe I'm being simplistic...but if you're taking it

every day...where would it be hiding for all that time?

cindi

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In a message dated 1/4/2005 9:44:24 AM Eastern Standard Time,

artisticgroom@... writes:

> LOL sometimes the simplistic is THE right answer!

>

>

yea. also as in " if you're having hypo symptoms, you just might be hypo " ,

even if your TSH isn't.

cindi

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Is Time Caps natural thyroid? I've never heard of this one.

Kate

Frequency of medication adjustments

I was just reading the insert that came with a bottle of Time Caps Labs

Thyroid. Amazing what we could learn by reading these! LOL Their recommendations

for dosing suggest a starting dosage of 30MG then 15 MG increases every 2-3

weeks. They also state that the dosage is reflected within 2-3 weeks on lab

tests. This sounds to me like the information we have been given by our doctors

that it takes a full 6-8 weeks for the T4 to be felt is FALSE. Another EXCUSE to

keep us undermedicated? I think so. In the years I have been taking natural

thyroid, I have also discovered MUCH more immediate results from dosage

adjustments than we have been led to believe. I always figured it was me, but

from reading this, that is not true.

HMMM now reading the insert for Armour, it says the SAME THING! Folks, we are

STILL being misled by the medical profession. If the results can be read on lab

tests in 2-3 weeks and are considered accurate, then the full effect (both T3

AND T4) is FELT at 2-3 weeks of a dosage too.

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/

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Yes, Time Caps Labs is a generic natural thyroid.

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

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Dr Barry Durrant-Peatfield says essentially the same thing: The half-

life of T4 is 2 weeks.

I have never had the experience of upping my dose and feeling good

for longer than 2 or 3 days afterward. To me, this is an indication

that I'm not at an optimal dose yet. And it's always been hard for me

to wait the recommended 6 weeks to tweak up by a minimal amount (but

I do it because I don't know any differently than what I've been

told). Maybe I should be tweaking every 2 weeks until I reach the

point where I feel well for the solid two weeks!

Thanks for pointing this out - I already threw my inserts out for

Naturethroid or I would've checked them too.

> HMMM now reading the insert for Armour, it says the SAME THING!

Folks, we are STILL being misled by the medical profession. If the

results can be read on lab tests in 2-3 weeks and are considered

accurate, then the full effect (both T3 AND T4) is FELT at 2-3 weeks

of a dosage too.

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>>Dr Barry Durrant-Peatfield says essentially the same thing: The half-

life of T4 is 2 weeks.<<

OK I am going to do a little further explaining. How many of us know what the

term " Half life " means? I do! It means that the drug is in our system twice this

amount of time before it is gone. It also means that the HALF life is the peak

action for the drug and the second half it is dissipating, which is why HALF

LIFE is such an important term. The goal of most therapies is to maintain the

peak of the drug in as stable a manner as is possible. So in effect waiting 6

weeks to increase our dosage we are taking 2 steps forward, 1.5 steps back,

every time. We are creating an opportune time for antibodies to do more damage,

and we are fixing cells then destroying them.

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/

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This is an excellent explanation! It certainly explains why folks

like me have felt better, then worse on increasing dosages of thyroid.

I have been anal-retentive about tracking my data (BBT, dosage

adjustments, symptoms, menstrual cycles) and brought this very same

thing up several times to my various physicians and my husband (he's

a kind-hearted person who doesn't roll his eyes at my thyroid

bantering). My husband and I were the only ones who got even close in

guessing what was going on.

Thanks for putting this down in writing, . It makes perfect

sense now and solves one of my bigger mysteries.

> OK I am going to do a little further explaining. How many of us

know what the term " Half life " means? I do! It means that the drug is

in our system twice this amount of time before it is gone. It also

means that the HALF life is the peak action for the drug and the

second half it is dissipating, which is why HALF LIFE is such an

important term. The goal of most therapies is to maintain the peak of

the drug in as stable a manner as is possible. So in effect waiting 6

weeks to increase our dosage we are taking 2 steps forward, 1.5

steps back, every time. We are creating an opportune time for

antibodies to do more damage, and we are fixing cells then destroying

them.

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I'm correcting my earlier mistake. Dr. Durrant-Peatfield says the

half-life of T4 is 8 days, and that dosage adjustments can be made

every 2 weeks.

See the following for clarification:

http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/w/u/wurmstei/Peatfield_Suggest.htm

I'm sorry for posting misinformation.

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>>Maybe I'm being simplistic...but if you're taking it

every day...where would it be hiding for all that time?<<

LOL sometimes the simplistic is THE right answer!

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/

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