Guest guest Posted June 20, 2002 Report Share Posted June 20, 2002 In a message dated 6/20/2002 6:47:12 AM Pacific Standard Time, dbandas@... writes: > Doesn't this fall under ADA? > At the current time, obesity is not recognized as a disability under the ADA. Kate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2002 Report Share Posted June 20, 2002 I don't think it's a money-making scheme. Believe me, there are easier ways to make money than to tell someone they're so fat they need two seats. The reason I say this is because if the flight is *not* sold out, that is if there are extra seats, the money for the second ticket is refunded. If you stop and think about what kind of test it would take....making the person get ON the plane, trying to see if the armrest would go down, seeing if the belt would buckle, then getting off and buying another ticket.....SHEESH! Talk about embarassment and delays! How about weighing people at check-in? I guess I'd be in favor of giving the person the extra seat, if available. But someone next to an obese person should not have to share their seat...it's not fair to either. I followed a southwest url on the main group, and found out about the refund if the plane was not full, and getting a child-priced ticket for the second seat. Doesn't this fall under ADA? in Austin RNY April 1998 ----- Original Message ----- To: DianneOSU@...>; GRaduate-OSSG > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 7:51 AM I am thinking that since 60% of Americans are overweight and could barely fit INSIDE those airplane seats anyway, it's just SWA's money scheme to make more money. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2002 Report Share Posted June 20, 2002 I happen to be one of those poor " old ladies with the flabby thighs " who still has a hard time sitting in those darn seats. I lost 115 pounds and am no longer MO, however my body build leaves a lot to be desired. I will always have those thunder thighs cause that is the way I am built and I still dread the flying. I never needed a seatbelt extender, and even now I can pull that seatbelt tighter than I ever dreamed. I was at the edge before, and now I have room to spare, but I still fit tight in those seats. Most of my excess weight is in my thighs and rear. If I could sit with my upper body in the seat, I would have all that room to spare that so many of you talk about!!!! I am a size M on top, with NO double DD's in sight!!!! Those dang seats are just too small, no matter how you look at it, and that has changed over the years. Money hungry airlines just needed to pack in more people than ever before, which is also why more people are flying now and can afford to fly. I am not sure what the answer is to all this, but I know one thing, I will never allow anyone to humiliate me publicly for my odd build. This discrimination has to stop and we are the ones who need to stop it now. I will never forget the time my husband and I went into a restaurant and were seated at a table with the tiniest chairs I have ever seen. They were metal and just cutting into my legs until I could not take the pain anymore. I finally told my husband that we had to move, and I was so embarassed to have to do that. We moved to a booth, and I was so much happier but mortified we had to do that. I wasn't even 100 pounds overweight at that time! I have had the same experience in a doctor's office too, so I am not sure of how we can combat this. I just know that something has to be done, as the tall people have similar problems with the leg room on airplanes. Charter flights are even smaller and tighter!!! Donna Open RNY w/Gallbladder removal 10-1-99 St. Charity Hospital, Cleveland, OH Dr. Schreiber with a fantastic support program in place. Hernia repair (Dr. Schreiber) and abdominoplasty (Dr. Vogt) 7/12/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2002 Report Share Posted June 20, 2002 According to the paper -- not really. HOw is that for conclusive? The Federal Government has said that giving airplane seats away is not a " reasonable accomodation " for obesity. However a lawyer they interviewed who specializes in ADA law says that technically there could be a loophole in that obesity could be a symptom of another disease. Hence they have to deal with the other disease. The first thing that came to my mind is pregnancy. If a women is pregnant and needs a seatbelt extender, I dont think they can legally charge her for two seats. Because pregnancy is a protected disability which has its own act. Rasley mailto:drasley@... BTC, Columbus, 10/7/98 Lost over 90% of excess and maintaining Gained a beautiful daughter on 8/9/00 > Re: SOUTHWEST AIRLINES > > > I don't think it's a money-making scheme. Believe me, there are > easier ways > to make money than to tell someone they're so fat they need two seats. > > The reason I say this is because if the flight is *not* sold out, > that is if > there are extra seats, the money for the second ticket is refunded. > > If you stop and think about what kind of test it would take....making the > person get ON the plane, trying to see if the armrest would go > down, seeing > if the belt would buckle, then getting off and buying another > ticket.....SHEESH! Talk about embarassment and delays! How > about weighing > people at check-in? > > I guess I'd be in favor of giving the person the extra seat, if available. > But someone next to an obese person should not have to share their > seat...it's not fair to either. > > I followed a southwest url on the main group, and found out about > the refund > if the plane was not full, and getting a child-priced ticket for > the second > seat. > > Doesn't this fall under ADA? > > in Austin > RNY April 1998 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > To: DianneOSU@...>; GRaduate-OSSG > > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 7:51 AM > > > I am thinking that since 60% of Americans are overweight and > could barely > fit INSIDE those airplane seats anyway, it's just SWA's money > scheme to make > more money. > > > > > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2002 Report Share Posted June 20, 2002 In a message dated 6/20/2002 6:47:07 AM Pacific Standard Time, dbandas@... writes: > Doesn't this fall under ADA? > Obesity is considered a disease that is curable, not terminal like a disability . . . I don't think it is covered under ADA . . .BUT I COULD BE WRONG. If it is, then you have to start getting into the definition or how obese id legally obese. Crazy stff. I think ADA is meant to insure public access to people who living with life altering situation that cannot be reversed . . . like parapeligia . . .downs. Seriously, I though it was about equal access for the wheel chair bound??? Anxious to hear what you all know .. . . ) Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 Donna: You should never have to pay for two seats! I can't tell you how pissed this issue is. I am well aware of the " it's a business " aspect of the issue, but these airlines are inconviencing (sp) everyone! It's insulting to me that they think that everyone has to fit into their teeny tiny seats so they can maximize capacity and money. Shame on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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