Guest guest Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 I thought I was going to die on 1.25 grains. In retrospect, I realize the hyper feelings were probably the result of low potassium. This trial of Armour has really messed me up. Before, I could go right back to T4 and after a few days, BP would normalize and the " hypers " would leave. This time, I stopped Armour on 10/20 and made valiant attempts to return to T4. As of Dec 11, I've not even had T4 and still have the " hypers. " I tried taking just 50 mcg, here and there, but each time the " hypers " got worse. Val Val you could be resistant like I am to the thyroid hormones. I did slow down swelling on Armour but not till I got over 3 grains a day and my blood pressure didn't reliably come down till I added in Cytomel. I think the T3 has alot to do with circulation and blood pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 You are upping the Armour way too fast. You shouldn't be at the 2 grain dose yet. 30 mgs for a couple of wks, then 60 mgs for about 4 wks, then see how you feel. If still hypo symptoms, then start upping only 15 mgs at a time for 4 to 6 wks or so. Do test at about 6 wk intervals, if you can afford it, for awhile. This is waaaayyyy too fast. Update on Armour > > > Hi All, > > Haven't written in awhile, been busy. Hope everyone had a nice > Holiday. I received my Naturethroid 3 weeks ago and I'm up to 2 > grains a day, taken twice a day. The only difference I've noticed is > I'm not as cold and the depression is better. I have noticed that my > face seems more bloated and I seem to be retaining water. Any > relation to the Armour? Should I keep upping my dosage till I get to > 3 grains or wait a few weeks? I was also wondering if anyone else > has ever had dry white patches on their upper arms along with little > red bumps? Thanks! > > Mel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 In a message dated 12/29/2004 7:24:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, martian.303@... writes: > > > Is there a natural t3? > just what is in Armour as far as i know. cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 >>if you're already taking Armour, why do you need to add T3 when T3 is already in Armour.<< Some of us do not convert T4 into T3 very well at all, for those of us that are like that we can easily build up too much T4 in our blood without getting enough T3 to actually make us feel well, even on Armour. I have to take more T3 with my Armour. If I take 7 grains Armour I have shakes and irritability and tiredness, if I take 6 grains I feel hypo. I tried 6.5 too and still did not feel well. SO I dropped down to the 6 and added in some extra T3. This seems to work best FOR ME. My last labs I was on 4.5 grains Armour. They showed a Free T4 of (if I remember right,it's been a long time!) 1.9 and my Free T3 was 225 with the range being 230 -460 I think. In other words, while my Free T4 was in range, though low, my Free T3 was not even in the range at all, which told me I needed more T3 than the average person. So I increased the Armour first as my Free T4 was still too low, but when that got where I felt I was taking too much, I cut it back and still felt too low. Time to tweak the T3 & T4 individually and as mine was really low on the Free T3, that was the end I chose to tweak. Hope this explains it. *Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/ ---------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date: 12/28/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 Thank you for a great explaination. I'm always wanting to learn more. Hugs, Tigger Re: Re: Update on Armour >>if you're already taking Armour, why do you need to add T3 when T3 is already in Armour.<< Some of us do not convert T4 into T3 very well at all, for those of us that are like that we can easily build up too much T4 in our blood without getting enough T3 to actually make us feel well, even on Armour. I have to take more T3 with my Armour. If I take 7 grains Armour I have shakes and irritability and tiredness, if I take 6 grains I feel hypo. I tried 6.5 too and still did not feel well. SO I dropped down to the 6 and added in some extra T3. This seems to work best FOR ME. My last labs I was on 4.5 grains Armour. They showed a Free T4 of (if I remember right,it's been a long time!) 1.9 and my Free T3 was 225 with the range being 230 -460 I think. In other words, while my Free T4 was in range, though low, my Free T3 was not even in the range at all, which told me I needed more T3 than the average person. So I increased the Armour first as my Free T4 was still too low, but when that got where I felt I was taking too much, I cut it back and still felt too low. Time to tweak the T3 & T4 individually and as mine was really low on the Free T3, that was the end I chose to tweak. Hope this explains it. *Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/ ---------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date: 12/28/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 Is there a natural t3? Cris Re: Re: Update on Armour >>if you're already taking Armour, why do you need to add T3 when T3 is already in Armour.<< Some of us do not convert T4 into T3 very well at all, for those of us that are like that we can easily build up too much T4 in our blood without getting enough T3 to actually make us feel well, even on Armour. I have to take more T3 with my Armour. If I take 7 grains Armour I have shakes and irritability and tiredness, if I take 6 grains I feel hypo. I tried 6.5 too and still did not feel well. SO I dropped down to the 6 and added in some extra T3. This seems to work best FOR ME. My last labs I was on 4.5 grains Armour. They showed a Free T4 of (if I remember right,it's been a long time!) 1.9 and my Free T3 was 225 with the range being 230 -460 I think. In other words, while my Free T4 was in range, though low, my Free T3 was not even in the range at all, which told me I needed more T3 than the average person. So I increased the Armour first as my Free T4 was still too low, but when that got where I felt I was taking too much, I cut it back and still felt too low. Time to tweak the T3 & T4 individually and as mine was really low on the Free T3, that was the end I chose to tweak. Hope this explains it. *Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/ ---------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date: 12/28/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 Natural T3? Not that I am aware of. I take Cynomel which is Mexican for Cytomel. *Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/ ---------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date: 12/28/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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