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In a message dated 06/06/2002 1:57:28 PM Central Daylight Time,

JonnysGirl81@... writes:

> So I went for a barium swallow yesterday. Everything is fine - 2 1/2 years

> out I still have a 30cc pouch and no disruption.

>

They didn't say anything about what your stoma looks like. Is it possibly

stretched?

Dawn--far south suburban Chicago, IL area

Dr. Hess, Bowling Green, OH

BPD/DS

4/27/00

www.duodenalswitch.com

267 to 160 5' 4 "

size 22 to size 10

have made size goal

no more high blood pressure, sore feet, or dieting

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In a message dated 06/06/2002 1:57:28 PM Central Daylight Time,

JonnysGirl81@... writes:

> So I went for a barium swallow yesterday. Everything is fine - 2 1/2 years

> out I still have a 30cc pouch and no disruption.

>

They didn't say anything about what your stoma looks like. Is it possibly

stretched?

Dawn--far south suburban Chicago, IL area

Dr. Hess, Bowling Green, OH

BPD/DS

4/27/00

www.duodenalswitch.com

267 to 160 5' 4 "

size 22 to size 10

have made size goal

no more high blood pressure, sore feet, or dieting

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This whole conversation is very interesting to me. I have been mentally

suffering because I have gone from a low weight of 143 (I was there for about 5

second following my tummy tuck) back up to 161. I am only 5'1 " , so it was

getting scary. Now - I don't do sugar or milk. I was doing very few carbs. So

I went for a barium swallow yesterday. Everything is fine - 2 1/2 years out I

still have a 30cc pouch and no disruption.

The surgeon I consulted with has suggested that I only drink a protein shake

after I do a muscle bearing work out. That takes me down from two shakes a day

to one shake every other day (the company who makes problendd 55 may go out of

business). He also asked that I get my pre-albumin and albumin done in two

weeks. When I return with bloods and GI films he will have me meet with his

nutritionist who will go over the food journal he has asked me to keep as well.

Other than being in mourning over my ProBlend - I am down 2 lbs since Monday. I

have added some carbs to my routine in the form of veggies, low carb fruit and

1/2 a luna bar each day. I feel fine (other than the post barium runs and

headache).

The surgeon truly feels that the gain is a combination of me beginning weight

training 3 mos ago and a little bounceback. I would just like to get back in to

my size 10 pants as I have given all the others away!

Marjie

Haasevp@... wrote:

>In a message dated 6/6/2002 3:19:15 AM Pacific Standard Time,

>denise0714@... writes:

>

>

>> Back and forth 183 to 190.  I drink the

>> Isopure you are talking about they say we only take in 30 grams of protein

>> at

>> a time.  I don't think it hurts us to have too much it just a waste of our

>> money.  I do have a question have you notice with this drink do you get

>> diarrhea?  I also drink Met-RX amp 60 which is very good.

>>

>>

>

>If you have more than your body needs, even protein, it will be stored as fat

>. . .could be why the weight bounce.

>:o) Vicki

>

>

>

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I am currently doing 70 - 90 ounces of decaf unsweetened liquid a day. At least

60 of that is water. I am ready to float now! I have actually lost 2 lbs since

Monday so I am going to give it a whirl. I can't continue to gain - I am back

in the obese category as it is - I did not have a goal of being obese when I

laid down on the surgical table. Two shakes a day was getting me there quickly.

I was very interested to see Vicki's post on even too much protein turning to

fat. Granted at a size 12 or 14 I do not appear obese (and I am still a small

on top) but the charts say obese.

Marjie

" W " saabc@...> wrote:

>Marjie,

>Please consider NOT reducing your protein.  Increase your water instead.

>You don't want to get on a yo-yo with that protein and continue to gain

>because you are hungry more often....

> in Nebraska

> Surgeons & Protein Recommendations

>

>

>> This whole conversation is very interesting to me.  I have been mentally

>suffering because I have gone from a low weight of 143 (I was there for

>about 5 second following my tummy tuck) back up to 161.  I am only 5'1 " , so

>it was getting scary.  Now - I don't do sugar or milk.  I was doing very few

>carbs.  So I went for a barium swallow yesterday.  Everything is fine - 2

>1/2 years out I still have a 30cc pouch and no disruption.

>>

>> The surgeon I consulted with has suggested that I only drink a protein

>shake after I do a muscle bearing work out.  That takes me down from two

>shakes a day to one shake every other day (the company who makes problendd

>55 may go out of business).  He also asked that I get my pre-albumin and

>albumin done in two weeks.  When I return with bloods and GI films he will

>have me meet with his nutritionist who will go over the food journal he has

>asked me to keep as well.

>>

>> Other than being in mourning over my ProBlend - I am down 2 lbs since

>Monday.  I have added some carbs to my routine in the form of veggies, low

>carb fruit and 1/2 a luna bar each day.  I feel fine (other than the post

>barium runs and headache).

>>

>> The surgeon truly feels that the gain is a combination of me beginning

>weight training 3 mos ago and a little bounceback.  I would just like to get

>back in to my size 10 pants as I have given all the others away!

>>

>> Marjie

>>

>> Haasevp@... wrote:

>>

>> >In a message dated 6/6/2002 3:19:15 AM Pacific Standard Time,

>> >denise0714@... writes:

>> >

>> >

>> >> Back and forth 183 to 190. I drink the

>> >> Isopure you are talking about they say we only take in 30 grams of

>protein

>> >> at

>> >> a time. I don't think it hurts us to have too much it just a waste of

>our

>> >> money. I do have a question have you notice with this drink do you get

>> >> diarrhea? I also drink Met-RX amp 60 which is very good.

>> >>

>> >>

>> >

>> >If you have more than your body needs, even protein, it will be stored as

>fat

>> >. . .could be why the weight bounce.

>> >:o) Vicki

>> >

>> >

>> >

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I am not having a problem with being hungry so they say the stoma is fine.

Marjie

Dwkteach@... wrote:

>In a message dated 06/06/2002 1:57:28 PM Central Daylight Time,

JonnysGirl81@... writes:

>

>

>So I went for a barium swallow yesterday. nbsp;Everything is fine - 2 1/2 years

out I still have a 30cc pouch and no disruption.

>

>

>

>

>They didn't say anything about what your stoma looks like. nbsp;Is it possibly

stretched? nbsp;

>

>Dawn--far south suburban Chicago, IL area

>Dr. Hess, Bowling Green, OH

>BPD/DS

>4/27/00

>www.duodenalswitch.com

>267 to 160 5' 4 " nbsp;

>size 22 to size 10

>have made size goal

>no more high blood pressure, sore feet, or dieting

>

>

>

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Why would you think PB55 is going out of biz? I just placed a huge hunkin'

order with 'em. An hour ago. And they are working on a Mocha Cap Classic

recipe to bring back the one people loved. ????

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Surgeons & Protein Recommendations

> This whole conversation is very interesting to me. I have been mentally

suffering because I have gone from a low weight of 143 (I was there for

about 5 second following my tummy tuck) back up to 161. I am only 5'1 " , so

it was getting scary. Now - I don't do sugar or milk. I was doing very few

carbs. So I went for a barium swallow yesterday. Everything is fine - 2

1/2 years out I still have a 30cc pouch and no disruption.

>

> The surgeon I consulted with has suggested that I only drink a protein

shake after I do a muscle bearing work out. That takes me down from two

shakes a day to one shake every other day (the company who makes problendd

55 may go out of business). He also asked that I get my pre-albumin and

albumin done in two weeks. When I return with bloods and GI films he will

have me meet with his nutritionist who will go over the food journal he has

asked me to keep as well.

>

> Other than being in mourning over my ProBlend - I am down 2 lbs since

Monday. I have added some carbs to my routine in the form of veggies, low

carb fruit and 1/2 a luna bar each day. I feel fine (other than the post

barium runs and headache).

>

> The surgeon truly feels that the gain is a combination of me beginning

weight training 3 mos ago and a little bounceback. I would just like to get

back in to my size 10 pants as I have given all the others away!

>

> Marjie

>

> Haasevp@... wrote:

>

> >In a message dated 6/6/2002 3:19:15 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> >denise0714@... writes:

> >

> >

> >> Back and forth 183 to 190. I drink the

> >> Isopure you are talking about they say we only take in 30 grams of

protein

> >> at

> >> a time. I don't think it hurts us to have too much it just a waste of

our

> >> money. I do have a question have you notice with this drink do you get

> >> diarrhea? I also drink Met-RX amp 60 which is very good.

> >>

> >>

> >

> >If you have more than your body needs, even protein, it will be stored as

fat

> >. . .could be why the weight bounce.

> >:o) Vicki

> >

> >

> >

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Boy that must have popped your protein cork fast.

Sometimes I think you take us all too seriously VITA! Tone inflection

is sorely missing in ALL these posts and sometimes leads to many

misunderstandings I interpreted this poswt as Margie making a joke

about PB55 sales going down without her... or so I took it.. one

faithful Mocha cap lover making a joke? NO???

But then again I dont sell the stuff, I just drink it once in awhile,

I just throw coffe into chocolate to make Mochsa but have been

finding it more scarce in local stores recently. It is a nice

traveling companioon.

WHY did they ever STOP making it, didnt know they did, why messs with

a good thing? Marketing... pull it for 3 months...just to BRING IT

BACK??

Im also lowering shakes lately, going onto more 0 Carb isopure in

glass bottles while exercising (the pretty pretty colored stuff) and

UPCAL and PROCEL tea and coffee during the day and in the AM and pm..

and more food, Challanging time.

:)aDria

> >

> > >In a message dated 6/6/2002 3:19:15 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> > >denise0714@c... writes:

> > >

> > >

> > >> Back and forth 183 to 190. I drink the

> > >> Isopure you are talking about they say we only take in 30

grams of

> protein

> > >> at

> > >> a time. I don't think it hurts us to have too much it just a

waste of

> our

> > >> money. I do have a question have you notice with this drink do

you get

> > >> diarrhea? I also drink Met-RX amp 60 which is very good.

> > >>

> > >>

> > >

> > >If you have more than your body needs, even protein, it will be

stored as

> fat

> > >. . .could be why the weight bounce.

> > >:o) Vicki

> > >

> > >

> > >

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No, they didn't pull it from the market, but they've never quite figured out

its market, so the run out. Then, when they changed the formula, they

thought they were way cool. Well, the bariatric community went ballistic,

and my rep is all aflutter, and now is trying to make the original formula

again. He implies that they've got 100% match again.

Funny thing is, everyone who tastes BOTH likes the original. Everyone who

tastes the new (only) likes it fine. Weird, huh?

It's nice to know that they aim to please, though, huh?

But of course, it's not chocolate, so what good is it?

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>

>

> Boy that must have popped your protein cork fast.

>

> Sometimes I think you take us all too seriously VITA! Tone inflection

> is sorely missing in ALL these posts and sometimes leads to many

> misunderstandings I interpreted this poswt as Margie making a joke

> about PB55 sales going down without her... or so I took it.. one

> faithful Mocha cap lover making a joke? NO???

>

> But then again I dont sell the stuff, I just drink it once in awhile,

> I just throw coffe into chocolate to make Mochsa but have been

> finding it more scarce in local stores recently. It is a nice

> traveling companioon.

>

> WHY did they ever STOP making it, didnt know they did, why messs with

> a good thing? Marketing... pull it for 3 months...just to BRING IT

> BACK??

>

> Im also lowering shakes lately, going onto more 0 Carb isopure in

> glass bottles while exercising (the pretty pretty colored stuff) and

> UPCAL and PROCEL tea and coffee during the day and in the AM and pm..

> and more food, Challanging time.

>

> :)aDria

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > >

> > > >In a message dated 6/6/2002 3:19:15 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> > > >denise0714@c... writes:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >> Back and forth 183 to 190. I drink the

> > > >> Isopure you are talking about they say we only take in 30

> grams of

> > protein

> > > >> at

> > > >> a time. I don't think it hurts us to have too much it just a

> waste of

> > our

> > > >> money. I do have a question have you notice with this drink do

> you get

> > > >> diarrhea? I also drink Met-RX amp 60 which is very good.

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >

> > > >If you have more than your body needs, even protein, it will be

> stored as

> > fat

> > > >. . .could be why the weight bounce.

> > > >:o) Vicki

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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AH Ha,

So THAT expalins the big fire sale a few months ago @ on one of the

online nutrition dot.coms that went over so well on the pro list! You

remember that one :)

They must have been the close outs of the " newer " ones for $18 +

shipping. YUK YUK.

I agree, If I want mocha, Ill just add some instant coffe to my

chocolate.

****Speaking of which.

QUESTION????

Whats the purpose of of PROCEL if...you can use the OTHER protein

powdwers for hot/cold beverages/cooking...isnt the procel more

eexpensive???

IE:

Now in AM Im putting chocolate WHEY into hot tea and its been like a

hot chocolate, adding abit of soy milk just as i would normally do

for my tea and also the protein mix...(any brand) TODAY DID TWIN

LABs..

Ditto strawberry banana Protein powder in plain non fat yogurt, or

tea, it blends very well.

comment please

:)aDria

> > > >

> > > > >In a message dated 6/6/2002 3:19:15 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> > > > >denise0714@c... writes:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >> Back and forth 183 to 190. I drink the

> > > > >> Isopure you are talking about they say we only take in 30

> > grams of

> > > protein

> > > > >> at

> > > > >> a time. I don't think it hurts us to have too much it just

a

> > waste of

> > > our

> > > > >> money. I do have a question have you notice with this

drink do

> > you get

> > > > >> diarrhea? I also drink Met-RX amp 60 which is very good.

> > > > >>

> > > > >>

> > > > >

> > > > >If you have more than your body needs, even protein, it will

be

> > stored as

> > > fat

> > > > >. . .could be why the weight bounce.

> > > > >:o) Vicki

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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ProCel will not dissipate in heat. The others can be added to warmish water,

but not hot. Depends on how hot and nope, I don't know the degrees. I just

know that they separate at " that " heat, whichever it is. ProCel is also

pretty well tasteless & textureless, so you can put it in anything. Even the

" natural " and " plain " have texture.

Personally, my wt loss & my health depend on the integrity of the protein I

drink. I just can't bring myself to do the warmed whey products. Old school,

I guess.

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Re: Surgeons & Protein Recommendations

> AH Ha,

> So THAT expalins the big fire sale a few months ago @ on one of the

> online nutrition dot.coms that went over so well on the pro list! You

> remember that one :)

>

> They must have been the close outs of the " newer " ones for $18 +

> shipping. YUK YUK.

>

> I agree, If I want mocha, Ill just add some instant coffe to my

> chocolate.

>

> ****Speaking of which.

>

> QUESTION????

>

>

>

> Whats the purpose of of PROCEL if...you can use the OTHER protein

> powdwers for hot/cold beverages/cooking...isnt the procel more

> eexpensive???

>

> IE:

>

> Now in AM Im putting chocolate WHEY into hot tea and its been like a

> hot chocolate, adding abit of soy milk just as i would normally do

> for my tea and also the protein mix...(any brand) TODAY DID TWIN

> LABs..

>

> Ditto strawberry banana Protein powder in plain non fat yogurt, or

> tea, it blends very well.

>

> comment please

>

> :)aDria

>

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > > >In a message dated 6/6/2002 3:19:15 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> > > > > >denise0714@c... writes:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >> Back and forth 183 to 190. I drink the

> > > > > >> Isopure you are talking about they say we only take in 30

> > > grams of

> > > > protein

> > > > > >> at

> > > > > >> a time. I don't think it hurts us to have too much it just

> a

> > > waste of

> > > > our

> > > > > >> money. I do have a question have you notice with this

> drink do

> > > you get

> > > > > >> diarrhea? I also drink Met-RX amp 60 which is very good.

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >

> > > > > >If you have more than your body needs, even protein, it will

> be

> > > stored as

> > > > fat

> > > > > >. . .could be why the weight bounce.

> > > > > >:o) Vicki

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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