Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Hi everyone! I'm new here and just starting the process of getting a helmet for my 4-1/2 month old who is moderate-to-severe plagio; closer to severe. We need to choose between two orthotists and I'm really torn between the two. Any advice or personal experieces would really be appreciated. 1st orthotist is LAWALL O & P: - Uses the Starband - Uses plaster casting method (which looks so scarey to me.) - Has a specialist that only works with cranial helmets - Is about a ten minute further drive from us 2nd orthotist is HANGER P & O: - Uses the Hanger cranial helmet - Uses the Insignia scanning process (which seems less tramatic and, from what I've read, more accurate?) - An acquaintance/friend of ours is the orthotist who would perform all the adjustments; However she doesn't deal exclusively with cranial helmets - Is a little closer to our home Based on years of experience and the fact that they have a specialist, the Lawall location would be my first choice. However I really prefer Hanger's scanning process for our little guy. (He's definitely NOT a laid back, easy-going baby.) Plus we'd know the orthotist and have a somewhat shorter drive. I think my major question is ... Do you think there's a major quality difference between the Hanger helmet and the Starband? Has anyone else had to make a similar decision? Are you happy with the outcome? Any input is appreaciated. I'm so confused. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Hello and welcome to the group. My Daughter was also moderate plagio (14mm) and we had a few options when deciding on her band too. We went with Hanger and were very pleased with her results... and everything about the Hanger location that we used. The Insignia Scanner was very easy and neat. The STARband and the Hanger Cranial Band are essentially the same, as far as the look/design, their weight (about 8oz) and the way in which they work (they are both designed to be active bands, which means that they have " holding POints " on the baby's head where the head is more prominent/buldging and there is space where the flat areas are to allow them to " pop-out " /fill in). Active bands actually redirect the growth of the baby's head. Whenever you are choosing a place to have your baby banded, the MOST important thing is that you choose an Orthotist with plenty of experience banding plagio babies. Do you know how much experience the Hanger Orthotist has? You mentioned that the Lawall Orthotist specializes in Cranial Orthotics... do you know how much experience (years, how many babies, how often, etc) he/she has? There have been people who have had great STARband success stories and others with great Hanger success stories. Others have had not so good experiences with both facilities, due to inexperienced Orthotists. Making sure that your Orthotist has the experience, knowledge, etc is the real KEY in choosing the right facility. Where are you located? Maybe if you tell us the location of the 2 facilities others can share experiences if they went there and/or concidered going there. Good luck with your decision. Let us know what you decide and keep us updated. Jen (22 mo), tort resolved, Hanger Band Grad (4 years) > > Hi everyone! I'm new here and just starting the process of getting a > helmet for my 4-1/2 month old who is moderate-to-severe plagio; closer > to severe. We need to choose between two orthotists and I'm really > torn between the two. Any advice or personal experieces would really > be appreciated. > > 1st orthotist is LAWALL O & P: > - Uses the Starband > - Uses plaster casting method (which looks so scarey to me.) > - Has a specialist that only works with cranial helmets > - Is about a ten minute further drive from us > > 2nd orthotist is HANGER P & O: > - Uses the Hanger cranial helmet > - Uses the Insignia scanning process > (which seems less tramatic and, from what I've read, more accurate?) > - An acquaintance/friend of ours is the orthotist who would perform > all the adjustments; However she doesn't deal exclusively with cranial > helmets > - Is a little closer to our home > > Based on years of experience and the fact that they have a specialist, > the Lawall location would be my first choice. However I really prefer > Hanger's scanning process for our little guy. (He's definitely NOT a > laid back, easy-going baby.) Plus we'd know the orthotist and have a > somewhat shorter drive. > > I think my major question is ... > Do you think there's a major quality difference between the Hanger > helmet and the Starband? > > Has anyone else had to make a similar decision? Are you happy with the > outcome? Any input is appreaciated. I'm so confused. > > Thanks! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Hello & welcome. We just got our helmet(STARband) on my 6mth old son last Wednesday. Today is the first day we are wearing 23hr/day. We are going to Hanger P & O in Overland Park, Kansas. They ordered us a STARband and my orthotist stated that the Hanger Band and the STARband are pretty much the same thing. He thinks that the STARband works a little bit better. Maybe the Hanger location you are thinking about using can order you a STARband too and then you would be able to be closer to home and have the a familiar person around your child. As stated previously....be sure that the orthotist is experienced. That is the MOST important thing. Ann - Mom to Collin ....STARband 5/31/06.Jen <ronandjenvelez@...> wrote: Hello and welcome to the group. My Daughter was also moderate plagio (14mm) and we had a few options when deciding on her band too. We went with Hanger and were very pleased with her results... and everything about the Hanger location that we used. The Insignia Scanner was very easy and neat.The STARband and the Hanger Cranial Band are essentially the same, as far as the look/design, their weight (about 8oz) and the way in which they work (they are both designed to be active bands, which means that they have "holding POints" on the baby's head where the head is more prominent/buldging and there is space where the flat areas are to allow them to "pop-out"/fill in). Active bands actually redirect the growth of the baby's head.Whenever you are choosing a place to have your baby banded, the MOST important thing is that you choose an Orthotist with plenty of experience banding plagio babies. Do you know how much experience the Hanger Orthotist has? You mentioned that the Lawall Orthotist specializes in Cranial Orthotics... do you know how much experience (years, how many babies, how often, etc) he/she has?There have been people who have had great STARband success stories and others with great Hanger success stories. Others have had not so good experiences with both facilities, due to inexperienced Orthotists. Making sure that your Orthotist has the experience, knowledge, etc is the real KEY in choosing the right facility. :)Where are you located? Maybe if you tell us the location of the 2 facilities others can share experiences if they went there and/or concidered going there.Good luck with your decision. Let us know what you decide and keep us updated.Jen (22 mo), tort resolved, Hanger Band Grad (4 years)>> Hi everyone! I'm new here and just starting the process of getting a> helmet for my 4-1/2 month old who is moderate-to-severe plagio; closer> to severe. We need to choose between two orthotists and I'm really> torn between the two. Any advice or personal experieces would really> be appreciated.> > 1st orthotist is LAWALL O & P:> - Uses the Starband> - Uses plaster casting method (which looks so scarey to me.)> - Has a specialist that only works with cranial helmets> - Is about a ten minute further drive from us> > 2nd orthotist is HANGER P & O:> - Uses the Hanger cranial helmet> - Uses the Insignia scanning process> (which seems less tramatic and, from what I've read, more accurate?)> - An acquaintance/friend of ours is the orthotist who would perform> all the adjustments; However she doesn't deal exclusively with cranial> helmets > - Is a little closer to our home> > Based on years of experience and the fact that they have a specialist,> the Lawall location would be my first choice. However I really prefer> Hanger's scanning process for our little guy. (He's definitely NOT a> laid back, easy-going baby.) Plus we'd know the orthotist and have a> somewhat shorter drive.> > I think my major question is ...> Do you think there's a major quality difference between the Hanger> helmet and the Starband?> > Has anyone else had to make a similar decision? Are you happy with the> outcome? Any input is appreaciated. I'm so confused.> > Thanks!> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 Hi , I've been reading the responses to this post, and I completely agree with everyone that the orthotist is the most important thing to consider when choosing a place. However, it also seems to me like you have some concerns about casting vs. scanning, and I wanted to say something about that. Yes, casting is messy and it can be a bit unnerving to see your child's head covered in a white mass. However, it does not hurt your child and it only lasts about ten minutes. Casting allows the orthotist to form an exact copy of your child's head and form the helmet accordingly. From what I've read, the accuracy is about the same for both methods. As far as the actual casting process, there are a series of pictures on this site posted by someone showing the casting process, I'm not sure where exactly. I can also tell you about our experience at Cranial Tech. The casting was a quick and efficient process. Everything was ready when we walked in, and the therapist told me exactly what she was going to do and gave me a chance to ask any questions. After stripping my son Devlan down to his diaper, he had a stocking put over his head with a hole cut out for his mouth, which enables mom to provide a bottle, pacifier, lollipop, or whatever might comfort her child (unfortunately, Devlan prefers his fingers, but they couldn't be near his head for obvious reasons). His eyes were covered, but he could still see (I held up a piece and could see through a double thickness). This minimizes the chance of anything getting into his eyes by accident, and is the only thing that goes over his face. It also helps with clean up. After marking his eyes and ears, the therapist applied seven pieces of plaster impregnated bandage. Three or four were applied around his face and the top of his head while he was lying down and then we sat him up and the rest were applied to the back of his head, rolling the edges so that the back was a separate piece from the front, which was already pretty much dry. After the therapist made some registration marks to line up the back and front pieces, they were removed and we were finished, except for the bath. I think the most frustrating thing for him was being held in one place and not being allowed to reach up and touch whatever was being put on his head. I don't know if the orthotist at Lawall would follow the same procedure, but I imagine it would have to be similar. The most important thing is for you to remain calm and reassure your baby through a process which is different from anything that has happened before. Sing a lullaby, talk nonsense, whatever might help your baby. I think sometimes it's easier to focus on the small issue (casting) while wrestling with a big issue (baby with plagio, needing to get a band). I hope I don't sound too preachy or pedantic or something, but please concentrate on which orthotist will do the best job correcting your childs head rather than on a specific 10 minutes of treatment. I hope this helps. Please let us know what you decide. Regards, , Mom to Devlan, DOC Band 5/11/06 > > Hi everyone! I'm new here and just starting the process of getting a > helmet for my 4-1/2 month old who is moderate-to-severe plagio; closer > to severe. We need to choose between two orthotists and I'm really > torn between the two. Any advice or personal experieces would really > be appreciated. > > 1st orthotist is LAWALL O & P: > - Uses the Starband > - Uses plaster casting method (which looks so scarey to me.) > - Has a specialist that only works with cranial helmets > - Is about a ten minute further drive from us > > 2nd orthotist is HANGER P & O: > - Uses the Hanger cranial helmet > - Uses the Insignia scanning process > (which seems less tramatic and, from what I've read, more accurate?) > - An acquaintance/friend of ours is the orthotist who would perform > all the adjustments; However she doesn't deal exclusively with cranial > helmets > - Is a little closer to our home > > Based on years of experience and the fact that they have a specialist, > the Lawall location would be my first choice. However I really prefer > Hanger's scanning process for our little guy. (He's definitely NOT a > laid back, easy-going baby.) Plus we'd know the orthotist and have a > somewhat shorter drive. > > I think my major question is ... > Do you think there's a major quality difference between the Hanger > helmet and the Starband? > > Has anyone else had to make a similar decision? Are you happy with the > outcome? Any input is appreaciated. I'm so confused. > > Thanks! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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