2 months on Armour feel better, then bad again?

December 16, 2004

In a message dated 12/16/2004 6:23:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,

FlyingDreams@... writes:

> Now I have the extreme drowsiness back

> for about 4 days now. Anyone else have this? Does it go away or

> what? Dr seems not to know what the deal is

I have had this several times in the 10 months I've been on Armour. It is my

opinion this is just something that can happen with hypothyroidism. Despite

us taking thyroid hormone, hypo is an altered metabolic state...and sometime

things just don't always run totally smooth. I think we're more prone to

drowsiness and fatigue and depression for instance.

Yes, I think it will go away. In the meantime, listen to your body and take

a nap.

Cindi

December 16, 2004

Hi Everyone!

Has anyone had this problem? I have been on meds for 5 months, 10

weeks Armour. Armour made a change immediately within a few days,

feeling better for 2 months. Now I have the extreme drowsiness back

for about 4 days now. Anyone else have this? Does it go away or

what? Dr seems not to know what the deal is. Calls me a hard case,

don't know. Says try less meds, but doesn't make sence because the

current meds is the first time I've felt better. My average temps

are 98.3 daytime (normal 98.6), 97.7 waking (normal 97.8-98.2).

TSH before meds 6.9

after synthroid 2 months - 3.04 FT3 - 325, FT4 1.4

5 months on meds .01, FT3 - 535 (230-420), FT4 1.9 (.8-1.8)

On 1 grain Armour + 37.5 synthroid each day.

Order TSH/FT3/FT4 again, why a week later? Thought these numbers

didn't change for weeks? Along with FSH, Prolactin, Estradiol,

Progesterone, Cortisol F (urine),

Thanks,

December 16, 2004

>.5 months on meds .01, FT3 - 535 (230-420), FT4 1.9 (.8-1.8)

On 1 grain Armour + 37.5 synthroid each day.<<

Why not try tweaking your dosage a little? Free T3 over the top does not give

many of us trouble, but most the Free T4 is in range. I would lose the Synthroid

and add 30 more MG Armour. If that doesn't work, maybe try the other way, as in

75mcg Synthroid & 1/2 grain Armour?

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/

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December 16, 2004

>>Why is that

having high T3 is ok, but not T4?<<

Probably because the test ranges are not where they should be. They get the

range from testing a group of people in that area and average for a " normal "

range, but as many people are hypo and NOT recognized as such, they may well be

figuring them into that average range they call " normal " . There are also

swings of high and lows throughout the day in healthy people's T3 levels... T3

should be higher in the AM or at least that is what I have read as per taking

meds.. always take a higher dosage in the morning then less later on, as that

simulates the body's own hormone output were it working correctly. That is what

prompted me to break my own dosages up into smaller more often, so I could

simulate natural hormone release as much as is possible.

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/

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December 16, 2004

Forgot the other part... The T4 as it is a storage hormone, kind of sits there

in the blood till T3 is needed then in a proper working body, it is converted to

T3 on an as needed basis making it's levels much more predictable and constant.

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

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December 16, 2004

One more question, . DO you take all your meds in the morning? if so you

might try breaking that dosage up.

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

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December 17, 2004

Did it turn very cold where you are? If it did, that may be what it has to

do with, as vitamin D is lacking during this time, with not much sun. Also,

there seems to be a lot of evidence that we may need more thyroid hormone

during the cold winter months, but don't ask me how much more, I just don't

know. Our own healthy thyroids used to bring it up and down naturally from

signals from the hypothalamus to the pituitary to step it up and down, but

of course, it can't do that much any more. Just throwing that out there.

2 months on Armour feel better, then bad

again?

>

> Hi Everyone!

>

> Has anyone had this problem? I have been on meds for 5 months, 10

> weeks Armour. Armour made a change immediately within a few days,

> feeling better for 2 months. Now I have the extreme drowsiness back

> for about 4 days now. Anyone else have this? Does it go away or

> what? Dr seems not to know what the deal is. Calls me a hard case,

> don't know. Says try less meds, but doesn't make sence because the

> current meds is the first time I've felt better. My average temps

> are 98.3 daytime (normal 98.6), 97.7 waking (normal 97.8-98.2).

>

> TSH before meds 6.9

> after synthroid 2 months - 3.04 FT3 - 325, FT4 1.4

> 5 months on meds .01, FT3 - 535 (230-420), FT4 1.9 (.8-1.8)

>

> On 1 grain Armour + 37.5 synthroid each day.

>

> Order TSH/FT3/FT4 again, why a week later? Thought these numbers

> didn't change for weeks? Along with FSH, Prolactin, Estradiol,

> Progesterone, Cortisol F (urine),

>

> Thanks,

>

December 20, 2004

Sounds like your doctor is checking your Cortisol which could be low. I had

the same problem of crashing from time to time and the doctor found my

Cortisol was low. After adding Cortizone and Pregnelone, I was back to

normal. She diagnosed me with Adrenal fatigue. I have never went completly

without crashes. You try to control them and the most important thing is

when they do occur, lay down and rest a little while...sometimes 15 mintues

can allow you to bounce back and sometimes it may not work. Hope this

helps.

Regards,

LaCretia

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>Hi Everyone!

>

>Has anyone had this problem? I have been on meds for 5 months, 10

>weeks Armour. Armour made a change immediately within a few days,

>feeling better for 2 months. Now I have the extreme drowsiness back

>for about 4 days now. Anyone else have this? Does it go away or

>what? Dr seems not to know what the deal is. Calls me a hard case,

>don't know. Says try less meds, but doesn't make sence because the

>current meds is the first time I've felt better. My average temps

>are 98.3 daytime (normal 98.6), 97.7 waking (normal 97.8-98.2).

>

>TSH before meds 6.9

> after synthroid 2 months - 3.04 FT3 - 325, FT4 1.4

>5 months on meds .01, FT3 - 535 (230-420), FT4 1.9 (.8-1.8)

>

>On 1 grain Armour + 37.5 synthroid each day.

>

>Order TSH/FT3/FT4 again, why a week later? Thought these numbers

>didn't change for weeks? Along with FSH, Prolactin, Estradiol,

>Progesterone, Cortisol F (urine),

>

>Thanks,

>

December 20, 2004