Re: Rehospitalization - its long, sorry!

[Guest guest]

I am sorry to hear about all your problems hope you get well soon!

[Guest guest]

Ami,

I am sorry for all the extra pain you have been going thru. Sounds

like they have finally found out what the problem is and you have

some hope of relief. Dont worry about the length. You are helping

us all by sharing your story. It will help someone who is having

the same types of symptoms, know that they are not alone in this

complication. Congrats on the weight loss!!!

Lori

Open RnY 8-1-03

> Hi everyone,

>

> I have certainly not had the best of luck with this surgery - Im

sure that

> much is obvious. When I had the blockage last week, one of the

nurses that took

> care of me in our local ER told me that she had the RNY 3 years

ago and just

> thought it was the best thing ever and never had any trouble. It

greatly

> disturbed me that she was still about 70 or so lbs over weight.

Maybe time has

> faded her memory of how greatly horrifying it is in the

beginning? Who knows.

>

> On Monday night around 7:30 we sat down to dinner. I had a few

bites of

> mashed potatoes and a bite of very flaky Orange Roughy. After a

hour of torture I

> threw it up. Usually if I throw up, I feel better. But not this

time - just

> like last week. So I was certain I was blocked again. I was so

pissed! I

> ate a very tiny amount and only ate foods that are on the list for

me to eat.

> At least last week I deserved it for eating something I wasnt

suppose to

> (filet minon), but this week I was completely innocent.

>

> I was in some discomfort, but not horrible pain, so I just called

my surgeon.

> He recommended that I try and drink some water. If I could hold

it down,

> then I could wait until morning and then come see him to get

scoped. If I threw

> that up too or if I started having those horrific chest pains

(which are

> actually esophogeal spasms, but feel like a hot knife through the

chest and into

> the back), then to call him back. So I took two tiny sips of

water - it was

> agony and I thought I was going to throw it up, but I never did.

I ended up

> propped up on the couch waiting for either the nausea and stomach

pain to subside

> or for the chest pain to start with mom and Trav's eyes bearing

down on me.

> If it all went away then we could go to bed. If the chest pain

started we

> could call the doc again.

>

> I felt the chest pain coming and I started crying - not because it

hurt so

> much initially, but because I knew how much worse it was

going to get.

> Its like when I was in labor and I felt a contraction coming - the

first part

> of the contraction isnt excruciating, but you know its coming and

you start to

> panic. This pain is almost worse than labor because it makes you

feel like

> you cant breathe and that only adds to the panic.

>

> Trav called the surgeon with me carrying on in the background. The

surgeon

> told him to get me to the ER and they would scope me. When Trav

reminded him

> that we were an hour & a half away, he advised us to stop at our

local ER to get

> something for pain before the drive.

>

> It was decided that mom would take me for various reasons. We

went to the ER

> in our town and they made me suffer for what seemed like an

eternity before

> finally giving me something for pain and letting me go. The ride

to the city

> wasnt exactly comfortable - I was still hurting but it was

bearable.

>

> We didnt have to wait long once we got to the city. They took us

right back

> and I got an IV started and so more pain medicine (which since it

was IV

> rather than IM, hit me like a ton of bricks). I think they then

took me for some

> xrays. I remember going somewhere, but I dont remember the

destination. I

> remember coming back to my ER room and the nurse drawing some

blood on me. After

> a bit, she came back and told us I was being admitted and as soon

as they got

> a call from upstairs with which bed I was going to, they would

send me up. I

> thought it was strange that I was being admitted. When I had

talked to the

> surgeon the first time (before the chest pain had started) I was

told that if I

> had to come up there, I would either be scoped that night, or they

would keep

> me in the ER, keep my pain controlled and scope me first thing in

the

> morning. But thats not what happened. Now that my mind is

clearer, I have to wonder

> if my admission had something to do with my lab work.

>

> We were taken upstairs to the same floor that I had been on after

my surgery.

> By then it was after midnight, so we were into Tuesday. I

thought I would

> be scoped that morning, but I wasnt. It confused me, but I was

too bumfuzzled

> on medications to ask. Later that morning, they did take me to

xray for a

> barium swallow (GROSS!) and I was told by the radiologist that

everything seemed

> to be emptying ok. It aggravated me - I was afraid they werent

going to

> scope me after all and I felt like if what I had eaten had blocked

me, then there

> was a problem somewhere, and they needed to figure it out.

>

> Later on the GI doc came and talked to us. He told us that he

planned on

> scoping me the next morning (Wednesday). He also said that there

was a chance

> that I could end up having to be cut open because of the risk of

rupturing the

> outlet from my stomach. When he had dilated it before, it was a

32 french

> (unit of measurement) and he stretched it to a 39. He said that

he had spoken

> with my surgeon who said it needed to be a 60 french. I could

tell from the

> pictures that he had given me last week, that he had ruptured it a

little bit with

> just that amount of stretching because of the blood and even some

staples in

> the pictures.

>

> So I had the scope this morning. He was able to stretch me to a

57 french

> without rupturing me (they made me drink some gastrograffin to

check for leaks -

> yucky!) so I didnt have to have a real surgery. Scary thing is

though that

> he told me in the week since he had stretched me, my outlet had

shrunk to a 28

> french - which is even smaller than it started out at last week -

and only

> half as big as it needed to be - no wonder that food got stuck!

>

> I spent the rest of the day in the hospital, proving that I could

drink

> liquids and he came and released me at around 6:30 tonight.

>

> I have to go back up next week (and the next few weeks after that)

to get

> rescoped and restretched. Eventually he will cut it down to ever

two weeks then

> every month, then every three months, if I continue to need it.

Who knows -

> maybe this stretch will hold. The only good news - my weights was

221, so I am

> officially down 40 lbs. I will keep you updated!

>

> ~ami~

> LAP RNY 5-13-03

> 261/221/??

[Guest guest]

hi ami. hang in there, & 40 lbs is excellent.

lori h.

[Guest guest]

Im so sorry for all your pain and trouble. My prayers for complete

recovery are with you

Pamela

11/19/02

120 lbs gone!!

Miami

> Hi everyone,

>

> I have certainly not had the best of luck with this surgery - Im

sure that

> much is obvious. When I had the blockage last week, one of the

nurses that took

> care of me in our local ER told me that she had the RNY 3 years ago

and just

> thought it was the best thing ever and never had any trouble. It

greatly

> disturbed me that she was still about 70 or so lbs over weight.

Maybe time has

> faded her memory of how greatly horrifying it is in the beginning?

Who knows.

>

> On Monday night around 7:30 we sat down to dinner. I had a few

bites of

> mashed potatoes and a bite of very flaky Orange Roughy. After a

hour of torture I

> threw it up. Usually if I throw up, I feel better. But not this

time - just

> like last week. So I was certain I was blocked again. I was so

pissed! I

> ate a very tiny amount and only ate foods that are on the list for

me to eat.

> At least last week I deserved it for eating something I wasnt

suppose to

> (filet minon), but this week I was completely innocent.

>

> I was in some discomfort, but not horrible pain, so I just called

my surgeon.

> He recommended that I try and drink some water. If I could hold

it down,

> then I could wait until morning and then come see him to get

scoped. If I threw

> that up too or if I started having those horrific chest pains

(which are

> actually esophogeal spasms, but feel like a hot knife through the

chest and into

> the back), then to call him back. So I took two tiny sips of water -

it was

> agony and I thought I was going to throw it up, but I never did.

I ended up

> propped up on the couch waiting for either the nausea and stomach

pain to subside

> or for the chest pain to start with mom and Trav's eyes bearing

down on me.

> If it all went away then we could go to bed. If the chest pain

started we

> could call the doc again.

>

> I felt the chest pain coming and I started crying - not because it

hurt so

> much initially, but because I knew how much worse it was

going to get.

> Its like when I was in labor and I felt a contraction coming - the

first part

> of the contraction isnt excruciating, but you know its coming and

you start to

> panic. This pain is almost worse than labor because it makes you

feel like

> you cant breathe and that only adds to the panic.

>

> Trav called the surgeon with me carrying on in the background. The

surgeon

> told him to get me to the ER and they would scope me. When Trav

reminded him

> that we were an hour & a half away, he advised us to stop at our

local ER to get

> something for pain before the drive.

>

> It was decided that mom would take me for various reasons. We went

to the ER

> in our town and they made me suffer for what seemed like an

eternity before

> finally giving me something for pain and letting me go. The ride

to the city

> wasnt exactly comfortable - I was still hurting but it was

bearable.

>

> We didnt have to wait long once we got to the city. They took us

right back

> and I got an IV started and so more pain medicine (which since it

was IV

> rather than IM, hit me like a ton of bricks). I think they then

took me for some

> xrays. I remember going somewhere, but I dont remember the

destination. I

> remember coming back to my ER room and the nurse drawing some blood

on me. After

> a bit, she came back and told us I was being admitted and as soon

as they got

> a call from upstairs with which bed I was going to, they would send

me up. I

> thought it was strange that I was being admitted. When I had

talked to the

> surgeon the first time (before the chest pain had started) I was

told that if I

> had to come up there, I would either be scoped that night, or they

would keep

> me in the ER, keep my pain controlled and scope me first thing in

the

> morning. But thats not what happened. Now that my mind is

clearer, I have to wonder

> if my admission had something to do with my lab work.

>

> We were taken upstairs to the same floor that I had been on after

my surgery.

> By then it was after midnight, so we were into Tuesday. I thought

I would

> be scoped that morning, but I wasnt. It confused me, but I was too

bumfuzzled

> on medications to ask. Later that morning, they did take me to

xray for a

> barium swallow (GROSS!) and I was told by the radiologist that

everything seemed

> to be emptying ok. It aggravated me - I was afraid they werent

going to

> scope me after all and I felt like if what I had eaten had blocked

me, then there

> was a problem somewhere, and they needed to figure it out.

>

> Later on the GI doc came and talked to us. He told us that he

planned on

> scoping me the next morning (Wednesday). He also said that there

was a chance

> that I could end up having to be cut open because of the risk of

rupturing the

> outlet from my stomach. When he had dilated it before, it was a 32

french

> (unit of measurement) and he stretched it to a 39. He said that he

had spoken

> with my surgeon who said it needed to be a 60 french. I could tell

from the

> pictures that he had given me last week, that he had ruptured it a

little bit with

> just that amount of stretching because of the blood and even some

staples in

> the pictures.

>

> So I had the scope this morning. He was able to stretch me to a 57

french

> without rupturing me (they made me drink some gastrograffin to

check for leaks -

> yucky!) so I didnt have to have a real surgery. Scary thing is

though that

> he told me in the week since he had stretched me, my outlet had

shrunk to a 28

> french - which is even smaller than it started out at last week -

and only

> half as big as it needed to be - no wonder that food got stuck!

>

> I spent the rest of the day in the hospital, proving that I could

drink

> liquids and he came and released me at around 6:30 tonight.

>

> I have to go back up next week (and the next few weeks after that)

to get

> rescoped and restretched. Eventually he will cut it down to ever

two weeks then

> every month, then every three months, if I continue to need it. Who

knows -

> maybe this stretch will hold. The only good news - my weights was

221, so I am

> officially down 40 lbs. I will keep you updated!

>

> ~ami~

> LAP RNY 5-13-03

> 261/221/??

[Guest guest]

I'm really sorry about what you're going through. It's really scarey.

I just had quite an experience myself. I went in for my surgery on Wednesday

morning, 7/30 for a lap rny, and when the surgeon got in there he didn't like

the way my liver looked and stopped the surgery. We knew my liver enzymes were

slightly elevated. Also, I was checked for Hepatitis a couple of times after

these liver enzymes came back and the tests were negative. So, now I have to

go to a liver specialist to check into this. I was sick after the partial

procedure, very nausiated. I have to go to my PCP tomorrow for a liver

specialist referral and then see the surgeon again next thursday. I do believe

hwoever, that I will be able to get this straightened out and get on with the

surgery a few weeks/months down the line. My surgeon was concerned about doing

the surgery and the effects a rapid weight loss might have on my liver so he is

being very cautious. (I guess, sigh!!!) I feel like I've been through a washing

machine cycle!!!

Do you know of anyone who has gone through this type of a problem?

You take care of yourself. This stuff can get awfully nasty can't it?

LoriB

Rehospitalization - its long, sorry!

Hi everyone,

I have certainly not had the best of luck with this surgery - Im sure that

much is obvious. When I had the blockage last week, one of the nurses that

took

care of me in our local ER told me that she had the RNY 3 years ago and just

thought it was the best thing ever and never had any trouble. It greatly

disturbed me that she was still about 70 or so lbs over weight. Maybe time

has

faded her memory of how greatly horrifying it is in the beginning? Who knows.

On Monday night around 7:30 we sat down to dinner. I had a few bites of

mashed potatoes and a bite of very flaky Orange Roughy. After a hour of

torture I

threw it up. Usually if I throw up, I feel better. But not this time - just

like last week. So I was certain I was blocked again. I was so pissed! I

ate a very tiny amount and only ate foods that are on the list for me to eat.

At least last week I deserved it for eating something I wasnt suppose to

(filet minon), but this week I was completely innocent.

I was in some discomfort, but not horrible pain, so I just called my surgeon.

He recommended that I try and drink some water. If I could hold it down,

then I could wait until morning and then come see him to get scoped. If I

threw

that up too or if I started having those horrific chest pains (which are

actually esophogeal spasms, but feel like a hot knife through the chest and

into

the back), then to call him back. So I took two tiny sips of water - it was

agony and I thought I was going to throw it up, but I never did. I ended up

propped up on the couch waiting for either the nausea and stomach pain to

subside

or for the chest pain to start with mom and Trav's eyes bearing down on me.

If it all went away then we could go to bed. If the chest pain started we

could call the doc again.

I felt the chest pain coming and I started crying - not because it hurt so

much initially, but because I knew how much worse it was going to get.

Its like when I was in labor and I felt a contraction coming - the first part

of the contraction isnt excruciating, but you know its coming and you start to

panic. This pain is almost worse than labor because it makes you feel like

you cant breathe and that only adds to the panic.

Trav called the surgeon with me carrying on in the background. The surgeon

told him to get me to the ER and they would scope me. When Trav reminded him

that we were an hour & a half away, he advised us to stop at our local ER to

get

something for pain before the drive.

It was decided that mom would take me for various reasons. We went to the ER

in our town and they made me suffer for what seemed like an eternity before

finally giving me something for pain and letting me go. The ride to the city

wasnt exactly comfortable - I was still hurting but it was bearable.

We didnt have to wait long once we got to the city. They took us right back

and I got an IV started and so more pain medicine (which since it was IV

rather than IM, hit me like a ton of bricks). I think they then took me for

some

xrays. I remember going somewhere, but I dont remember the destination. I

remember coming back to my ER room and the nurse drawing some blood on me.

After

a bit, she came back and told us I was being admitted and as soon as they got

a call from upstairs with which bed I was going to, they would send me up. I

thought it was strange that I was being admitted. When I had talked to the

surgeon the first time (before the chest pain had started) I was told that if

I

had to come up there, I would either be scoped that night, or they would keep

me in the ER, keep my pain controlled and scope me first thing in the

morning. But thats not what happened. Now that my mind is clearer, I have to

wonder

if my admission had something to do with my lab work.

We were taken upstairs to the same floor that I had been on after my surgery.

By then it was after midnight, so we were into Tuesday. I thought I would

be scoped that morning, but I wasnt. It confused me, but I was too bumfuzzled

on medications to ask. Later that morning, they did take me to xray for a

barium swallow (GROSS!) and I was told by the radiologist that everything

seemed

to be emptying ok. It aggravated me - I was afraid they werent going to

scope me after all and I felt like if what I had eaten had blocked me, then

there

was a problem somewhere, and they needed to figure it out.

Later on the GI doc came and talked to us. He told us that he planned on

scoping me the next morning (Wednesday). He also said that there was a chance

that I could end up having to be cut open because of the risk of rupturing the

outlet from my stomach. When he had dilated it before, it was a 32 french

(unit of measurement) and he stretched it to a 39. He said that he had spoken

with my surgeon who said it needed to be a 60 french. I could tell from the

pictures that he had given me last week, that he had ruptured it a little bit

with

just that amount of stretching because of the blood and even some staples in

the pictures.

So I had the scope this morning. He was able to stretch me to a 57 french

without rupturing me (they made me drink some gastrograffin to check for leaks

-

yucky!) so I didnt have to have a real surgery. Scary thing is though that

he told me in the week since he had stretched me, my outlet had shrunk to a 28

french - which is even smaller than it started out at last week - and only

half as big as it needed to be - no wonder that food got stuck!

I spent the rest of the day in the hospital, proving that I could drink

liquids and he came and released me at around 6:30 tonight.

I have to go back up next week (and the next few weeks after that) to get

rescoped and restretched. Eventually he will cut it down to ever two weeks

then

every month, then every three months, if I continue to need it. Who knows -

maybe this stretch will hold. The only good news - my weights was 221, so I am

officially down 40 lbs. I will keep you updated!

~ami~

LAP RNY 5-13-03

261/221/??

[Guest guest]

Lori B. I'm So Sorry to hear your sad news and had that happen to

you.I was hope to hear good new that you were on the losing side.I

hope and pray everything turns out for you.Please keep in touch of

how thing's go and hope you'll be back and going for another surgery

date.God was watching over you and maybe it was great to have a good

Dr on your side just to be safe.I would be so scared myself if I had

that happen.Get well and hope every thing goes good with the

appointment.Hang in there I've got you in my prays.God Bless a

friend debkroll of Iowa,Surgery date Aug.18,2003 Dr. Sioux

Falls,S.D. Wt # 365/?

waiting.

> I'm really sorry about what you're going through. It's really

scarey.

>

> I just had quite an experience myself. I went in for my surgery

on Wednesday morning, 7/30 for a lap rny, and when the surgeon got

in there he didn't like the way my liver looked and stopped the

surgery. We knew my liver enzymes were slightly elevated. Also, I

was checked for Hepatitis a couple of times after these liver

enzymes came back and the tests were negative. So, now I have to

go to a liver specialist to check into this. I was sick after the

partial procedure, very nausiated. I have to go to my PCP tomorrow

for a liver specialist referral and then see the surgeon again next

thursday. I do believe hwoever, that I will be able to get this

straightened out and get on with the surgery a few weeks/months down

the line. My surgeon was concerned about doing the surgery and the

effects a rapid weight loss might have on my liver so he is being

very cautious. (I guess, sigh!!!) I feel like I've been through a

washing machine cycle!!!

>

> Do you know of anyone who has gone through this type of a problem?

>

> You take care of yourself. This stuff can get awfully nasty can't

it?

>

> LoriB

> Rehospitalization - its long,

sorry!

>

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I have certainly not had the best of luck with this surgery - Im

sure that

> much is obvious. When I had the blockage last week, one of the

nurses that took

> care of me in our local ER told me that she had the RNY 3 years

ago and just

> thought it was the best thing ever and never had any trouble.

It greatly

> disturbed me that she was still about 70 or so lbs over weight.

Maybe time has

> faded her memory of how greatly horrifying it is in the

beginning? Who knows.

>

> On Monday night around 7:30 we sat down to dinner. I had a few

bites of

> mashed potatoes and a bite of very flaky Orange Roughy. After a

hour of torture I

> threw it up. Usually if I throw up, I feel better. But not

this time - just

> like last week. So I was certain I was blocked again. I was so

pissed! I

> ate a very tiny amount and only ate foods that are on the list

for me to eat.

> At least last week I deserved it for eating something I wasnt

suppose to

> (filet minon), but this week I was completely innocent.

>

> I was in some discomfort, but not horrible pain, so I just

called my surgeon.

> He recommended that I try and drink some water. If I could hold

it down,

> then I could wait until morning and then come see him to get

scoped. If I threw

> that up too or if I started having those horrific chest pains

(which are

> actually esophogeal spasms, but feel like a hot knife through

the chest and into

> the back), then to call him back. So I took two tiny sips of

water - it was

> agony and I thought I was going to throw it up, but I never

did. I ended up

> propped up on the couch waiting for either the nausea and

stomach pain to subside

> or for the chest pain to start with mom and Trav's eyes bearing

down on me.

> If it all went away then we could go to bed. If the chest pain

started we

> could call the doc again.

>

> I felt the chest pain coming and I started crying - not because

it hurt so

> much initially, but because I knew how much worse it was

going to get.

> Its like when I was in labor and I felt a contraction coming -

the first part

> of the contraction isnt excruciating, but you know its coming

and you start to

> panic. This pain is almost worse than labor because it makes

you feel like

> you cant breathe and that only adds to the panic.

>

> Trav called the surgeon with me carrying on in the background.

The surgeon

> told him to get me to the ER and they would scope me. When Trav

reminded him

> that we were an hour & a half away, he advised us to stop at our

local ER to get

> something for pain before the drive.

>

> It was decided that mom would take me for various reasons. We

went to the ER

> in our town and they made me suffer for what seemed like an

eternity before

> finally giving me something for pain and letting me go. The

ride to the city

> wasnt exactly comfortable - I was still hurting but it was

bearable.

>

> We didnt have to wait long once we got to the city. They took

us right back

> and I got an IV started and so more pain medicine (which since

it was IV

> rather than IM, hit me like a ton of bricks). I think they then

took me for some

> xrays. I remember going somewhere, but I dont remember the

destination. I

> remember coming back to my ER room and the nurse drawing some

blood on me. After

> a bit, she came back and told us I was being admitted and as

soon as they got

> a call from upstairs with which bed I was going to, they would

send me up. I

> thought it was strange that I was being admitted. When I had

talked to the

> surgeon the first time (before the chest pain had started) I was

told that if I

> had to come up there, I would either be scoped that night, or

they would keep

> me in the ER, keep my pain controlled and scope me first thing

in the

> morning. But thats not what happened. Now that my mind is

clearer, I have to wonder

> if my admission had something to do with my lab work.

>

> We were taken upstairs to the same floor that I had been on

after my surgery.

> By then it was after midnight, so we were into Tuesday. I

thought I would

> be scoped that morning, but I wasnt. It confused me, but I was

too bumfuzzled

> on medications to ask. Later that morning, they did take me to

xray for a

> barium swallow (GROSS!) and I was told by the radiologist that

everything seemed

> to be emptying ok. It aggravated me - I was afraid they werent

going to

> scope me after all and I felt like if what I had eaten had

blocked me, then there

> was a problem somewhere, and they needed to figure it out.

>

> Later on the GI doc came and talked to us. He told us that he

planned on

> scoping me the next morning (Wednesday). He also said that

there was a chance

> that I could end up having to be cut open because of the risk of

rupturing the

> outlet from my stomach. When he had dilated it before, it was a

32 french

> (unit of measurement) and he stretched it to a 39. He said that

he had spoken

> with my surgeon who said it needed to be a 60 french. I could

tell from the

> pictures that he had given me last week, that he had ruptured it

a little bit with

> just that amount of stretching because of the blood and even

some staples in

> the pictures.

>

> So I had the scope this morning. He was able to stretch me to a

57 french

> without rupturing me (they made me drink some gastrograffin to

check for leaks -

> yucky!) so I didnt have to have a real surgery. Scary thing is

though that

> he told me in the week since he had stretched me, my outlet had

shrunk to a 28

> french - which is even smaller than it started out at last week -

and only

> half as big as it needed to be - no wonder that food got stuck!

>

> I spent the rest of the day in the hospital, proving that I

could drink

> liquids and he came and released me at around 6:30 tonight.

>

> I have to go back up next week (and the next few weeks after

that) to get

> rescoped and restretched. Eventually he will cut it down to

ever two weeks then

> every month, then every three months, if I continue to need it.

Who knows -

> maybe this stretch will hold. The only good news - my weights

was 221, so I am

> officially down 40 lbs. I will keep you updated!

>

> ~ami~

> LAP RNY 5-13-03

> 261/221/??

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Melody

It partially depends on if you will be having proximal or distal

surgery. If distal, then your chances of losing that much the first

year is greater. But actually, it is more 2/3 of your excess body

weight. So if a healthy weight is 200 for you (as an example only),

then you'd be 250 lbs overweight and 2/3 of that would be about 165

lbs which is what you could expect to lose the first year.

Hope this helps

Caroline

Lap RNY 5/2/03

367/304/150

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> could anyone please anwser this dumb question for me i weight

around 450 and im 5feet 10 inches tall my question is i was told i

would lose 2/3rds of my weight in the first year but ive beed so

heavy for so long its kinda hard for me to believe that my dream may

really come true so if anyone is around my size or know someone

please email me and let me know is this for real? thank you melody

mcneely from ohio

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