Re: Saw my NP today--WHAT SHE SAID ABOUT GENERICS

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In a message dated 12/13/2004 8:56:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,

klb58@... writes:

> Are we considering Nauterthroid to be a generic of Armour?

>

>

i don't think that we are.

cindi

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That's been my experience too. I think Time Caps is the worst.

Qualitest was OK, I thought. Right now I'm still on real Armour (I

stocked up before myrxforless went off the air). Anyone know where

to buy the good stuff (without rx -- my doc won't go over 1 grain,

so I have to add on my own). All I can find is Naturethroid, which

is supposed to be good, but I hate to switch while I'm getting my

dosage figured out. Plus I hear it doesn't taste as good. :-)

-- prr

P.S. Maybe people should post their opinions of the various

generics. Maybe some of them are good...

>

> Saw my fabulous, Armour-prescribing, lab-ignoring Nurse

Practitioner

> today--and guess what she said? In the 15 years she's been

> practicing, she has never, ever been impressed with generics of

any

> kind. She has noticed over and over with her patients that they

fail

> to do the job that the name brands do. HMMMM When I asked her why,

> she was just as stumped as I was. But her theory had to do with

the

> binding agents--and that whatever the generics used didn't

> facilitate the absorption of the important ingredients....HMMMM

>

> Janie

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> Are we considering Nauterthroid to be a generic of Armour?

>

> Kerry

No. Naturethroid is a name brand, just as Armour is a name brand.

Janie

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My bosses cardiologist says this very same thing. He was given a generic bp

med, and it just flat didn't work well for him at all. He actually got sick

when on the generic and had to take some time off work because of it. Of

course, the pharmacy wants to give him generic because the insurance does NOT

want to pay for the name brand drug. Either way, he's now getting the 'real

thing' because not all generics are equal, and many dr's will admit that. One

of the dr's that used to be on my bosses insurance plan over 6 yrs ago gave up

medicine and sold his practice to retire. He openly admitted it was because the

insurance companies wanted to 'dictate' to him (the dr) what he should have his

patients on, and if it didn't work, it took time to get the real thing for them

which did work. Those that couldn't afford to have the 'real drug' instead of

generic had to jump through hoops to get the dr's original orders adhered to.

I remember when I was first put on bp meds, my own insurance company sent me a

letter so I could tell the dr what to prescribe for me, in place of what he was

prescribing me? rofl. What a joke.

SandyE~Houston

Saw my NP today--WHAT SHE SAID ABOUT

GENERICS

Saw my fabulous, Armour-prescribing, lab-ignoring Nurse Practitioner

today--and guess what she said? In the 15 years she's been

practicing, she has never, ever been impressed with generics of any

kind. She has noticed over and over with her patients that they fail

to do the job that the name brands do. HMMMM When I asked her why,

she was just as stumped as I was. But her theory had to do with the

binding agents--and that whatever the generics used didn't

facilitate the absorption of the important ingredients....HMMMM

Janie

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You know I should have realized this about generic armour as I have trouble with

another rx med too. My doc writes the script for generic gabapentin (the brand

name is neurontin) For the first couple of times the pharmacist dispensed the

brand name, after that he gave me the generic which definitely didn't work as

well. He told me that if I wanted the brand name I would have to ask my doc to

change my script. Doc refused on the grounds that the brand name was too

expensive and he has to rx what the health authority dictates (bear in mind that

this is the UK health service and all GPs have to stick to their budget)

I now have a different tactic, when I go to the pharmacy to get the script

filled I ask (very sweetly) if I could please have the brand name and I usually

get it.

When I lived in South Africa I had a very lovely lady doc who told me she didn't

believe in generics at all and wouldn't prescribe them

Lynda (in the UK)

Re: Saw my NP today--WHAT SHE SAID ABOUT

GENERICS

My bosses cardiologist says this very same thing. He was given a generic bp

med, and it just flat didn't work well for him at all.

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I used to take an antiinflamatory called Voltaren. I had a few annoying problems

with it, but nothing serious - until they switched me to the generic. I had a

really severe reaction to it!! What was just a mild annoyance became a nasty

problem. I was outside for not even 5 minutes, and I came in and my face

appeared to be sunburned. It pealed and everything.

I've also not had good luck with some other generics, and I often request name

brand. When I took an Estrogen tablet, I got it in brand name also. I think that

some are probably ok - like amoxy - anti-biotic. But the brand name armour -

thru a normal prescription, isn't that much more money than the generic. The

first time I had my armour filled, I took it back. I had requested armour, and

didn't get it. they told me it was it and everything. I fought with them over it

until they replaced it with the real thing. I think it cost me 2 or 3 dollars

more.

Cris

Saw my NP today--WHAT SHE SAID ABOUT

GENERICS

Saw my fabulous, Armour-prescribing, lab-ignoring Nurse Practitioner

today--and guess what she said? In the 15 years she's been

practicing, she has never, ever been impressed with generics of any

kind. She has noticed over and over with her patients that they fail

to do the job that the name brands do. HMMMM When I asked her why,

she was just as stumped as I was. But her theory had to do with the

binding agents--and that whatever the generics used didn't

facilitate the absorption of the important ingredients....HMMMM

Janie

[Guest guest]

I used to take an antiinflamatory called Voltaren. I had a few annoying problems

with it, but nothing serious - until they switched me to the generic. I had a

really severe reaction to it!! What was just a mild annoyance became a nasty

problem. I was outside for not even 5 minutes, and I came in and my face

appeared to be sunburned. It pealed and everything.

I've also not had good luck with some other generics, and I often request name

brand. When I took an Estrogen tablet, I got it in brand name also. I think that

some are probably ok - like amoxy - anti-biotic. But the brand name armour -

thru a normal prescription, isn't that much more money than the generic. The

first time I had my armour filled, I took it back. I had requested armour, and

didn't get it. they told me it was it and everything. I fought with them over it

until they replaced it with the real thing. I think it cost me 2 or 3 dollars

more.

Cris

Saw my NP today--WHAT SHE SAID ABOUT

GENERICS

Saw my fabulous, Armour-prescribing, lab-ignoring Nurse Practitioner

today--and guess what she said? In the 15 years she's been

practicing, she has never, ever been impressed with generics of any

kind. She has noticed over and over with her patients that they fail

to do the job that the name brands do. HMMMM When I asked her why,

she was just as stumped as I was. But her theory had to do with the

binding agents--and that whatever the generics used didn't

facilitate the absorption of the important ingredients....HMMMM

Janie

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You aren't required by law to be forced to take the generic. I think the

Dr's some time check it because most insurance companies want you to take

the generic in most cases. I take brand Armour, the pharmacist double

checked with me. Most Gyn's will not do that on BC pills, that is a

generic that I will never take! I think it has been proven that they are

inconsistent. I think sometimes is depends on the drug and where is was

manufactured. I saw a news report where they have ordered drugs from

somewhere in ASIA and there was nothing in them. In fact they have

mercury, lead and other bad things in them. The stuff that was purchase in

Mexico that was made in ASIA was the same. They did it on about 12

different drugs from different foreign websites. So everyone might be

careful where you get your stuff from, or better yet where it is manufactured.

Kate

At 03:46 PM 12/14/2004, you wrote:

>hmmmm ok - I just looked at my script. I had requested, I guess, brand

>necessary. That is check marked.

>now - I just had a script for armour phoned in. I had asked to have them

>check brand necessary, but I don't know if that is what they checked or

>not. I've never used the mail order pharmacy for it in the past, so I

>can't verbally request it. Holding my breath now....

>Cris

> Re: Saw my NP today--WHAT SHE SAID

>ABOUT GENERICS

>

>

> My bosses cardiologist says this very same thing. He was given a generic

>bp med, and it just flat didn't work well for him at all.

>

>

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I called and checked. The dr. checked that I'm only to have the brand. phew!!

I figured if you ordered armour thyroid from mexico, it was still armour

thyroid. But these substitutes.... It's hard to tell. I've never been a fan of

the generics either. And my insurance tries to insist on generics. The

prescription coverage is awful. They will only pay for generic prozac, and a few

others like that. No other anti-depressants! I was reading through their

formulary. It's lousy. So I hope that I never need an anti-depressant!! But it

is good to know that they can't force you to take the generics. Thanks!

Cris

Re: Saw my NP today--WHAT SHE SAID

>ABOUT GENERICS

>

>

> My bosses cardiologist says this very same thing. He was given a generic

>bp med, and it just flat didn't work well for him at all.

>

>