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In a message dated 12/5/2004 6:49:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,

jamyrogers@... writes:

> many of us have such nutitional issues from absorption issues. I ordered a

> juicer today. Anyone know much about that

>

just that juicing is a good thing. funny you would mention this. i know

hypos often have malabsorption/leaky gut syndrome...and I'm fairly certain i do.

And so i have worried about whether i am getting my nutrients from the

supplements I take. I suppose liquid form would be more readily absorbed than

solid?

Cindi

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My dad shared his juice drinks with me. I bought a juicer about 3

weeks ago. I'm going to try to juice 2-3 times a week.

Don't know much except ingesting raw is so much better for you.

Crystal

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> > many of us have such nutitional issues from absorption issues. I

ordered a > > juicer today. Anyone know much about that

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I've used a juicer for mostly vegetable juicing for about 15 years. It's

priceless. There's books on what different juices are good for & also for how to

use them for fasting & cleansing the body/mind. I use mine nearly every day but

had to quit for many months when I was injured & couldn't do it.

A person can get more nutrition into their body with juices than just general

eating or even taking supplements sometimes. I'm currently juicing mostly celery

to drink before meals for digestive problems & cabbage juice to eliminate bad

bacteria in my stomach & duodenum that might be an ulcer starting to form. It's

working!!!

I'm also juicing carrots, parsley & cabbage separately just to drink for the

nutrition & to help alkanalize my body & reduce acid. That's working too with

other dietary changes. I've lived on veggie & fruit juices for weeks at a time

for fasting & cleansing. Haven't done that in years tho...lack the

self-discipline anymore & it's too hard for me to physically make all that much

juice all the time.

Caroline

From: JAMY

many of us have such nutitional issues from absorption issues. I ordered a

juicer today. Anyone know much about that

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I have two small but excellent books on juicing:

" Make Your Juicer Your Drug Store " by Dr. Newman...a Naturopath & physical

therapist, 191 pages.

And

" How to Keep Slim, Healthy & Young With Juice Fasting: The Age-old way to a New

You!: by Dr. Paavo Airola, 77 pages

Re: Juicers

My dad shared his juice drinks with me. I bought a juicer about 3

weeks ago. I'm going to try to juice 2-3 times a week.

Don't know much except ingesting raw is so much better for you.

Crystal

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I know I need the nutrition but my only concern is the fact that many

veggies are goitenous to us! I am not a big veggie eater, so this might be a

good way for me!

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>Reply-To: NaturalThyroidHormones

>To: <NaturalThyroidHormones >

>Subject: Re: Juicers

>Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 22:09:15 -0800

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I have a juicer that I bought many years ago. Mainly stays in the cabinet! LOL

I think it is a pain to use. You have to buy a good amount of veggies to get

lots of juice. Might as well juice up enough for the next day also while you

are at it. I hated to see all that " fiber " going to down the garbage dispo and

only get a small amount of juice. It is a good thing to do if you are not going

to eat veggies and if you don't mind all the work and mess involved with this.

I also didn't really like the taste of this. Adding apples made it better, but

then you have all those calories and natural sugar from the apple juice!

Since I am not a big fan of eating veggies raw and don't like to cook either, I

started eating baby food to get my veggies. Bonus, you also get fiber! I just

chug down a jar of carrots, garden veggies, etc. Have a glass of water on hand,

you will need it! LOL You do get used to the taste though. I take baby food

with me on trips, etc. My friends think I'm nuts, but who cares.

I lost weight doing this years ago, before thyroid problems. Before every meal

I would eat 2 jars of veggie baby food and drink a full glass of water. I

didn't eat nearly as much for lunch and dinner when I did this!

Just my 2 cents worth,

Kathy

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>Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 22:09:15 -0800

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In a message dated 12/7/2004 4:50:19 PM Eastern Standard Time,

joaniedolan@... writes:

> I always have baby food on hand for my birds but never thought to use it

> myself! I'm going to try it. Thanks for the tip!

>

well this is interesting. I used to always keep the jars of baby peaches in

the fridge for me...cause i just loved it. but haven't bought any in a while.

guess it's time for this middle aged lady to go check out the baby food

section. lol.

cindi

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Kathy - thanks for this post. Just last night I asked my brother if I

could borrow his juicer for a month before investing in one. I know

juicing is a good thing to do, but I was thinking about the work and the

mess... and the taste! Plus, you have to know which foods go together

or don't go together and you can overdo some veggies and that's not good for

you. It would take planning and more trips to the grocery store to always

have fresh foods and knowledge of recipes, etc. None of which I have the

energy for right now.

I always have baby food on hand for my birds but never thought to use it

myself! I'm going to try it. Thanks for the tip!

.....joan

>>I have a juicer that I bought many years ago. Mainly stays in the

>>cabinet! LOL I think it is a pain to use. You have to buy a good

>>amount of veggies to get lots of juice. Might as well juice up enough

>>for the next day also while you are at it. I hated to see all that

>> " fiber " going to down the garbage dispo and only get a small amount of

>>juice. It is a good thing to do if you are not going to eat veggies and

>>if you don't mind all the work and mess involved with this. I also didn't

>>really like the taste of this. Adding apples made it better, but then you

>>have all those calories and natural sugar from the apple juice!

Since I am not a big fan of eating veggies raw and don't like to cook

either, I started eating baby food to get my veggies. Bonus, you also get

fiber! I just chug down a jar of carrots, garden

veggies, etc. Have a glass of water on hand, you will need it! LOL You

do get used to the taste though. I take baby food with me on trips, etc.

My friends think I'm nuts, but who cares.

I lost weight doing this years ago, before thyroid problems. Before every

meal I would eat 2 jars of veggie baby food and drink a full glass of water.

I didn't eat nearly as much for lunch and dinner when I did this!

Just my 2 cents worth,

Kathy

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Any juicing recipes... I'd be interested in hearing some.

Tigger

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Kathy - thanks for this post. Just last night I asked my brother if I

could borrow his juicer for a month before investing in one. I know

juicing is a good thing to do, but I was thinking about the work and the

mess... and the taste! Plus, you have to know which foods go together

or don't go together and you can overdo some veggies and that's not good for

you. It would take planning and more trips to the grocery store to always

have fresh foods and knowledge of recipes, etc. None of which I have the

energy for right now.

I always have baby food on hand for my birds but never thought to use it

myself! I'm going to try it. Thanks for the tip!

....joan

>>I have a juicer that I bought many years ago. Mainly stays in the

>>cabinet! LOL I think it is a pain to use. You have to buy a good

>>amount of veggies to get lots of juice. Might as well juice up enough

>>for the next day also while you are at it. I hated to see all that

>> " fiber " going to down the garbage dispo and only get a small amount of

>>juice. It is a good thing to do if you are not going to eat veggies and

>>if you don't mind all the work and mess involved with this. I also didn't

>>really like the taste of this. Adding apples made it better, but then you

>>have all those calories and natural sugar from the apple juice!

Since I am not a big fan of eating veggies raw and don't like to cook

either, I started eating baby food to get my veggies. Bonus, you also get

fiber! I just chug down a jar of carrots, garden

veggies, etc. Have a glass of water on hand, you will need it! LOL You

do get used to the taste though. I take baby food with me on trips, etc.

My friends think I'm nuts, but who cares.

I lost weight doing this years ago, before thyroid problems. Before every

meal I would eat 2 jars of veggie baby food and drink a full glass of water.

I didn't eat nearly as much for lunch and dinner when I did this!

Just my 2 cents worth,

Kathy

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Hi Joan,

I have juiced on and off for many years and have collected quite a

few Juice Recipes. ...Below are just a few..... I have more if you'd like.......

I juiced fresh ginger root, 3 apple,and a pink grapefruit for breakfast this

morning. I have found apples and celery to boost my energy level.

Fresh juice tastes better than frozen or bottled juices, I only shop

once a week for my fruits & veggies.

Cheryl

Juice Recipes:

Fruit and vegetable juices are the cleansers, energizers, builders, and

regenerators of the human system. A combination of either fresh, raw fruit or

vegetable juices will supply all the enzymes, vitamins, minerals, protein and

fats critical to increased vitality! By adding live juices to one's diet as a

daily routine, many have experienced a rejuvenating effect and healing of

various illnesses such as cancer, leukemia, arthritis, high blood pressure,

kidney disorders, skin infections, liver disorders, alcoholism and smoking.

Supplying the body with easily-absorbed nutrients, while the body is cleansing

itself in the fasting state, avoids the dangers of total abstinence associated

with water fasting.

For most health conditions, juice fasting is the best method to transform

health. Because juice fasting removes toxins and excess fatty tissue while

supplying a full spectrum of nutrients, it has an advantage over any weight loss

program.

Gingered Apple Cidar (Juice)

Serves 1)

3 apples or 1 cup apple cidar

1 inch piece ginger

Process through a juicer and serve.

Peach~Pear~Apple Juice

2 peaches, remove seed

1 pear, sliced

1 apple, cored and sliced

Process through a juicer and serve.

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med. apples 1 cup strawberries 1 tsp. lemon juice

--------------------------------

1 med. orange 1/2 red grapefruit 2 handfuls cranberries

--------------------------------

1 peach 1 pear 1 apple

--------------------------------

1 mango 1 orange 1 apple

-----------------------------------

1 apple, 2 celery stick, 2 carrot

-----------------------------------

1 apple, 3 celery

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1 apple, 3 carrot

~ Cheryl ~

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Yes...juicing is a royal nuisance. It's major, very painful work for me which is

why I quit doing it years ago. I only just started doing a bit of it because of

the acid reflux & fear of having an ulcer. Baby food could be the answer too

tho. Might try that instead. What the heck. I also discovered that sauer kraut

is good for ulcers & indigistion because it's fermented cabbage with vitamin K

in it.

Re: Juicers

Kathy - thanks for this post. Just last night I asked my brother if I

could borrow his juicer for a month before investing in one. I know

juicing is a good thing to do, but I was thinking about the work and the

mess... and the taste! Plus, you have to know which foods go together

or don't go together and you can overdo some veggies and that's not good for

you. It would take planning and more trips to the grocery store to always

have fresh foods and knowledge of recipes, etc. None of which I have the

energy for right now.

I always have baby food on hand for my birds but never thought to use it

myself! I'm going to try it. Thanks for the tip!

....joan

>>I have a juicer that I bought many years ago. Mainly stays in the

>>cabinet! LOL I think it is a pain to use. You have to buy a good

>>amount of veggies to get lots of juice. Might as well juice up enough

>>for the next day also while you are at it. I hated to see all that

>> " fiber " going to down the garbage dispo and only get a small amount of

>>juice. It is a good thing to do if you are not going to eat veggies and

>>if you don't mind all the work and mess involved with this. I also didn't

>>really like the taste of this. Adding apples made it better, but then you

>>have all those calories and natural sugar from the apple juice!

Since I am not a big fan of eating veggies raw and don't like to cook

either, I started eating baby food to get my veggies. Bonus, you also get

fiber! I just chug down a jar of carrots, garden

veggies, etc. Have a glass of water on hand, you will need it! LOL You

do get used to the taste though. I take baby food with me on trips, etc.

My friends think I'm nuts, but who cares.

I lost weight doing this years ago, before thyroid problems. Before every

meal I would eat 2 jars of veggie baby food and drink a full glass of water.

I didn't eat nearly as much for lunch and dinner when I did this!

Just my 2 cents worth,

Kathy

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I just use mostly an equal amount of carrots to 1 whole bunch of celery with a

whole bunch of parsley. This tastes pretty good to me when served at room

temperature if not more than a day old. The carrot juice starts coagulating &

getting sour & spoiled after 2 days tho...so drink it the first day if possible.

For extra greens & added iron & minerals plus oxygen one could add a l/2 bunch

of spinach too. Doesn't taste too bad.

I've tried mostly greens like spinach with kale or chard for their

oxygen/alkaline & calcium content but it's just too bitter...yuk!!! I have to

have carrots in it to offset that or just can't drink it at all.

Tho they say not to drink too much carrot juice because it's got more sugar in

it. But it's very healing anyway, loaded with beta carotene/vitamin A in a

non-toxic form.

Adding some cabbage is good for digestion & keeps ulcers away. Cabbage juice

isn't bitter either. Some people like the bitter tastes like in mustard greens

or dandelion greens but I hate it.

From: Tigger

Any juicing recipes... I'd be interested in hearing some.

Tigger

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I think I would juice more often if I had one of those small single-serving

juicers. I have a bug klunky one that's a royal pain to be taking apart &

cleaning all the time. A small one-serving juicer would require washing,

peeling, slicing only a few veggies at a time too instead of a mess of them for

a larger juicer. That's too much work. I might search around for one of those

smaller juicers. They're invaluable for weight loss & diets tho. Also for

helping to heal the body of a host of dis-eases.

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Caroline - you have experience with juicing and types of juicers. Please

let us know if you find one that you described below.

.....joan

I think I would juice more often if I had one of those small single-serving

juicers. I have a bug klunky one that's a royal pain to be taking apart &

cleaning all the time. A small one-serving juicer would require washing,

peeling, slicing only a few veggies at a time too instead of a mess of them

for a larger juicer. That's too much work. I might search around for one of

those smaller juicers. They're invaluable for weight loss & diets tho. Also

for helping to heal the body of a host of dis-eases.

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Cheryl - this is great - thanks for the recipes and I will take you up on

your offer of more recipes when I get the juicer from my brother.

Which juicer do you use and is it easy to clean? That breakfast drink

sounds yummy!

....joan

>> I have juiced on and off for many years and have collected

quite a few Juice Recipes. ...Below are just a few..... I have more if you'd

like....... I juiced fresh ginger root, 3 apple,and a pink grapefruit for

breakfast this morning. I have found apples and celery to boost my energy

level.

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With The Juice Man Juicers all you have to do is slice the fruit or

veggies in quarters and push through..the juice flows into your glass while the

pulp shoots into the bin in the back making an excellent addition to my mulch

pile! Clean up is not difficult at all, simply rince the parts (a little rubbing

on the outside of the mesh titanium blade while holding under running water

releases the skin & pulp that may be stuck on the blade).....BTW: They are on

sale for $99.00

Cheryl

Caroline Pollak wrote:

I think I would juice more often if I had one of those small single-serving

juicers. I have a bug klunky one that's a royal pain to be taking apart &

cleaning all the time. A small one-serving juicer would require washing,

peeling, slicing only a few veggies at a time too instead of a mess of them for

a larger juicer. That's too much work. I might search around for one of those

smaller juicers. They're invaluable for weight loss & diets tho. Also for

helping to heal the body of a host of dis-eases.

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Ok I will. In no hurry to run out & buy one tho.

From: Joan Dolan

Caroline - you have experience with juicing and types of juicers. Please

let us know if you find one that you described below.

....joan

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We're not supposed to mix fruit with veggies......supposed to eat each fruit by

itself 20 minutes apart from other foods. But if you must have some fruit in

with your juices, the most benign to mix in would be a bit of apple or pear.

Still not a good idea even then tho. Should rely on carrots for sweetening only.

Or just drink straight carrot juice to start with. Or just fruits...but only one

fruit at a time is the general rule.

From: JAMY

I just oprdered a juicer tio ad dmore veggies to my diet since I don't like

them. What concoctions do you have that mix a bit of fruit with veggies to

choke it down?

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why should you not mix? I can see protein and fruit, but why not fruit juice

and veggie juice. I should get my juicer tomorrow!

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>Reply-To: NaturalThyroidHormones

>To: <NaturalThyroidHormones >

>Subject: Re: Juicers

>Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 06:24:00 -0800

>

We're not supposed to mix fruit with veggies......supposed to eat each fruit

by itself 20 minutes apart from other foods. But if you must have some fruit

in with your juices, the most benign to mix in would be a bit of apple or

pear. Still not a good idea even then tho. Should rely on carrots for

sweetening only. Or just drink straight carrot juice to start with. Or just

fruits...but only one fruit at a time is the general rule.

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It's very bad for the digestion to mix fruits & veggies together..specially some

more than others. They digest at different rates for one thing. Fruits are more

cleansing & purgative. Veggies are more healing & soothing. They should be

juiced & drunk separately for better assimilation, effectiveness & digestion.

Espcially if there's any digestive or candida problems already. If there's

candida (yeast infections), then no fruits at all should be eaten or drunk.

From: JAMY

why should you not mix? I can see protein and fruit, but why not fruit juice

and veggie juice. I should get my juicer tomorrow!

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Nope, no Candida, no digestion issues, just severe anemia and trouble breathing

so I want the nutrition. I have only had heartburn 1x a in my life

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It's very bad for the digestion to mix fruits & veggies together..specially

some more than others. They digest at different rates for one thing. Fruits are

more cleansing & purgative. Veggies are more healing & soothing. They should be

juiced & drunk separately for better assimilation, effectiveness & digestion.

Espcially if there's any digestive or candida problems already. If there's

candida (yeast infections), then no fruits at all should be eaten or drunk.

From: JAMY

why should you not mix? I can see protein and fruit, but why not fruit juice

and veggie juice. I should get my juicer tomorrow!

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