Okay now, what is going on??

[Guest guest]

Okay I'm probably falling into the trap i warn everyone else about...BUT I'm

stressing out. I've been weighing myself every day... which staying the same

weight or fluxuating doesn't bother me, I know its part of it. but my scale

has actually said i've GAIINED weight! First day, didn't think too much about

it, but this is like the 3rd day and it has only gone up not down (when i

fluxuate it goes both directions). I ahven't made any changes in my

diet...although I do realize i can eat more than i used to, although it still

isn't that

much. wearing, albeit a heavy long denim skirt, my scale said 229! (I was 223

3 days ago). its not that time of the month, so it shouldn't be that. The

few lbs aren't what bother me so much as the trend...I've put myself back on

liquids just to see if that will help... all soups today..although one had

veggies in it, but i was careful to chew chew chew like we are supposed to do.

OKay, just had to vent.

Now, my second problem. I have losing ALL MY HAIR!! I knew it was a side

effect, but I didn't think I would really lose that much. I pull it out in

handfuls (and not just little ones). I HATE washing my hair, because the

hairloss

is just awful. And brushing my hair afterwards..yuck. I am getting protein,

i don't think that is the issue. I'm just wondering if any one else has had

a problem with severe loss, and if/what they have done for it. Iam currently

using the Nioxin, which I like, and helps my hair feel more full... I had A

LOT of hair before surgery, so i was never really concerned...but when I was

washing my hair i realized how thin it really is Anyways, suggestions would

be appreciated

Chrissy

OpenRNY 02/19/03

310/229 !@#*&^$#! *sigh*

[Guest guest]

My scales don't like me either-I weigh every morning-just to keep

myself in tow and I too flucuate a pound or two but, have been stuck

going on two weeks now with the same number. It does get frustrating

but, I have made my mind up that as long as I do not gain-I am OK. In

a post yesterday, I was told that muscle weighs more than fat and if

I am exercising I could be gaining muscle-yet losing fat. So I am

going with this one just to pasify myself. As far as the hair goes-I

am losing mine also but, not as drastic as it sounds like you are. I

got a perm last week just to hide my thin spots better and my

hairdresser gave me good news. She told me I have a ton of new growth-

little sprigs all over the place. So as long as new is coming in to

replace what is falling out-I guess I will never be totally bald. I

asked her what I could do-she said nothing except keep taking the

vitamins that I am and doing the protein. She said there is nothing

any hairdresser can do-this reaction is coming from the inside so

NOTHINg you do to the outside will help. A friend of mine that had

the WLS has gotten so bad, she has bought a wig-thank GOD mine hasn't

gotten to that point yet.

> Okay I'm probably falling into the trap i warn everyone else

about...BUT I'm

> stressing out. I've been weighing myself every day... which

staying the same

> weight or fluxuating doesn't bother me, I know its part of it. but

my scale

> has actually said i've GAIINED weight! First day, didn't think too

much about

> it, but this is like the 3rd day and it has only gone up not down

(when i

> fluxuate it goes both directions). I ahven't made any changes in

my

> diet...although I do realize i can eat more than i used to,

although it still isn't that

> much. wearing, albeit a heavy long denim skirt, my scale said

229! (I was 223

> 3 days ago). its not that time of the month, so it shouldn't be

that. The

> few lbs aren't what bother me so much as the trend...I've put

myself back on

> liquids just to see if that will help... all soups today..although

one had

> veggies in it, but i was careful to chew chew chew like we are

supposed to do.

> OKay, just had to vent.

>

> Now, my second problem. I have losing ALL MY HAIR!! I knew it was

a side

> effect, but I didn't think I would really lose that much. I pull

it out in

> handfuls (and not just little ones). I HATE washing my hair,

because the hairloss

> is just awful. And brushing my hair afterwards..yuck. I am

getting protein,

> i don't think that is the issue. I'm just wondering if any one

else has had

> a problem with severe loss, and if/what they have done for it. Iam

currently

> using the Nioxin, which I like, and helps my hair feel more full...

I had A

> LOT of hair before surgery, so i was never really concerned...but

when I was

> washing my hair i realized how thin it really is Anyways,

suggestions would

> be appreciated

>

> Chrissy

> OpenRNY 02/19/03

> 310/229 !@#*&^$#! *sigh*

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

On the muscle vs. fat difference, think of it this way.

You have 100 pounds of iron (muscle) and 100 pounds of feathers (fat) ... which

one takes up more room? The 100 pounds of feathers!!!

So the more muscle you add, the more compact you will be. Muscle density is

much greater!

sknny2b mwilley@...> wrote:

In

a post yesterday, I was told that muscle weighs more than fat and if

I am exercising I could be gaining muscle-yet losing fat.

[Guest guest]

I LIKE YOUR ANALOGY!!

-- In Gastric_Bypass_Family , imptress

wrote:

> On the muscle vs. fat difference, think of it this way.

>

> You have 100 pounds of iron (muscle) and 100 pounds of feathers

(fat) ... which one takes up more room? The 100 pounds of feathers!!!

>

> So the more muscle you add, the more compact you will be. Muscle

density is much greater!

>

>

> sknny2b wrote:

> In

> a post yesterday, I was told that muscle weighs more than fat and

if

> I am exercising I could be gaining muscle-yet losing fat.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

hi, not sure if this will help but do a search under cancer and hair loss

from chemo - seems like in some of my studies they said if you rinse with

cold cold water you lose less - check and see and i'll try to look too.

visit our website

www.geocities.com/tanyarn96/countryside.html

-- Okay now, what is going on??

Okay I'm probably falling into the trap i warn everyone else about...BUT I'm

stressing out. I've been weighing myself every day... which staying the

same

weight or fluxuating doesn't bother me, I know its part of it. but my scale

has actually said i've GAIINED weight! First day, didn't think too much

about

it, but this is like the 3rd day and it has only gone up not down (when i

fluxuate it goes both directions). I ahven't made any changes in my

diet...although I do realize i can eat more than i used to, although it

still isn't that

much. wearing, albeit a heavy long denim skirt, my scale said 229! (I was

223

3 days ago). its not that time of the month, so it shouldn't be that. The

few lbs aren't what bother me so much as the trend...I've put myself back on

liquids just to see if that will help... all soups today..although one had

veggies in it, but i was careful to chew chew chew like we are supposed to

do.

OKay, just had to vent.

Now, my second problem. I have losing ALL MY HAIR!! I knew it was a side

effect, but I didn't think I would really lose that much. I pull it out in

handfuls (and not just little ones). I HATE washing my hair, because the

hairloss

is just awful. And brushing my hair afterwards..yuck. I am getting protein

i don't think that is the issue. I'm just wondering if any one else has had

a problem with severe loss, and if/what they have done for it. Iam

currently

using the Nioxin, which I like, and helps my hair feel more full... I had A

LOT of hair before surgery, so i was never really concerned...but when I was

washing my hair i realized how thin it really is Anyways, suggestions

would

be appreciated

Chrissy

OpenRNY 02/19/03

310/229 !@#*&^$#! *sigh*

[Guest guest]

Chrissy, on the scale thing I will be of absolutely no help since I

just went out and bought one. I said over and over again i wouldn't

have one of those things in my house until I was at the maintenance

stage of my journey, and here I am. Weighted down (literally) with a

scale.

About the hair, once I started using the Nioxin cleanser and

conditioner + adding the leave in treatment mousse, my hairloss made

a dramatic stop. Maybe I waited so long that it was bound to stop

whether I used Nioxin or not, but the circumstances of handfulls of

hair in the shower and during brushings stopping after only a couple

uses of the product are enough to make me belive THAT is what really

helped me.

I'm with you about the protein thing, tho. Its not always a lack of

vitamins and protein that can make us lose our hair. I've always

been one to get LOADS of protein in and my monthly blood checks say

all my levels are fine. I think any time after major surgery all

your body's energy goes to healing the owie and the fast growing

cells like hair and nails, suffer the consequences. Anasthesia will

also have some affect on this.

Take heart and be glad that you had lots of hair to begin with. It

should help in the long run.

Smiles

Toi

[Guest guest]

Hi Toi and everyone

Actually, hair loss like this is very common anytime there is an

extreme restriction of caloric intake and drastic/fast weight loss.

It doesn't matter if the person has had surgery or not. And yes, it

doesn't always relate to protein, vitamins, etc. It's as though the

body is reserving it's energy towards more important bodily

functions, and hair is just simply not a priority.

Hope this helps

Caroline

Lap RNY 5/2/03

367/308/150

www.tinyurl.com/bkld

I'm with you about the protein thing, tho. Its not always a lack of

vitamins and protein that can make us lose our hair. I've always

been one to get LOADS of protein in and my monthly blood checks say

all my levels are fine. I think any time after major surgery all

your body's energy goes to healing the owie and the fast growing

cells like hair and nails, suffer the consequences. Anasthesia will

also have some affect on this.

[Guest guest]

The trauma of surgery and the anesthesia has a lot to do with the

hair loss also. Your hair grows in cycles of about 6 months. So the

loss you see is actually a reaction to that trauma your body went

through 4-6 months earlier.

D.

5'9 " – Age 42 – BMI 65.3

442/309/Anywhere under 250 lbs

-133 lbs as of July 17th – BMI 45.6

21 before surgery, 112 after

Open RNY-150 cm, 1/2 oz pouch - Feb 3, 2003

Surgeon - n, MD - Neenah, WI

> I'm with you about the protein thing, tho. Its not always a lack of

> vitamins and protein that can make us lose our hair. I've always

> been one to get LOADS of protein in and my monthly blood checks say

> all my levels are fine. I think any time after major surgery all

> your body's energy goes to healing the owie and the fast growing

> cells like hair and nails, suffer the consequences. Anasthesia will

> also have some affect on this.

[Guest guest]

Natasha Gittings, CD (DONA)

Labor support & postpartum doula, midwives assistant, midwifery student,

Chicagodoulas list owner, & NEIDA Region 3 Representative

[Guest guest]

Chrissy,

I had my surgery on the 7th of April and the same thing is happening to me

regarding hair loss. I too hate to shower because I have the same outcome as

you do.

I told my surgeon at my appointment last week and he said it wasn't unusual.

He commented that its not only the protien but the shock to your body as well

as the rapid weight loss. Eventually, he assured me, it will stop and my

hair will grow back.

Still..... it's hard to lose your hair.

Take Care,

Open RYN 4-7-03

351/281/???

[Guest guest]

hi - you know i've been reading these posts about losing hair and i'm a

cosmetologist as well as a nurse and hair need nutrients to grow and that is

why its falling out - which as a nurse is scary b/c your body needs

nutrients and it will use what it gets for vital parts to keep you alive and

take it away from less vital parts like hair - i worry about that - the

surgery not being good for the body but ppl years later are thin alive and

happy so at some point the body must adjust.

visit our website

www.geocities.com/tanyarn96/countryside.html

-- Re: Okay now, what is going on??

Chrissy,

I had my surgery on the 7th of April and the same thing is happening to me

regarding hair loss. I too hate to shower because I have the same outcome

as

you do.

I told my surgeon at my appointment last week and he said it wasn't unusual.

He commented that its not only the protien but the shock to your body as

well

as the rapid weight loss. Eventually, he assured me, it will stop and my

hair will grow back.

Still..... it's hard to lose your hair.

Take Care,

Open RYN 4-7-03

351/281/???