Guest guest Posted July 15, 2003 Report Share Posted July 15, 2003 im 40 years old have a bmi of 42 and I havefinished everything except my initial consult with my Surgeon.It will be Aug 14th. My question is that it seems like everyone begins living low carb after the surgery but I myself have tried low carb to lose weight before and couldnt stand it.I imagine there are many others who have done the same thing.What makes it any different after surgery? Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2003 Report Share Posted July 15, 2003 Allan It matters because you do not eat near the quantity of food you ate before. It is like being retrained. You only have this much space in your stomach to fill in each meal. You must learn to make wise choices to maximize nutrition. It is a very low carb diet afterwards, but you can have very small amounts of carbs here and there. My surgeon has me on clear liquids only for two weeks, then liquids and very soft foods for two weeks. When I'm at 1 month post op I can choose what I eat in very small portions and try one thing at a time to keep track of what irritates me and what works ok. He suggests that I avoid red meats for a bit longer, but to try them when I'm ready. I hope this makes sense. in OK post op 7-8-03 Aug 14th im 40 years old have a bmi of 42 and I havefinished everything except my initial consult with my Surgeon.It will be Aug 14th. My question is that it seems like everyone begins living low carb after the surgery but I myself have tried low carb to lose weight before and couldnt stand it.I imagine there are many others who have done the same thing.What makes it any different after surgery? Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2003 Report Share Posted July 15, 2003 Hi Allan Welcome to the group the " low carb " after surgery is due to the RNY. The effects of carbs and sugars on the system can be drastic because we have no stomach acid to break these down and they tend to go directly into the lower intestine and cause a kind of shock to the system. This " shock " can cause shaking, sweating, diarrhea, vomiting, and heart palpitations. Plus eating too many carbs defeats the purpose of trying to lose the weight even after surgery. Remember the surgery itself is not the jump-start to losing weight because there are many people who will testify that even with a reduced stomach they have still managed to gain a large portion of weight back. So it is not the small stomach it has everything to do with the quality of the food you put into it. That is why as a RNY patient post op you experience life more like a person on an Atkins Program, high protein, low carbs and very little sugar or sodium. Hope this helps a little Lori Anne pre-op Lap RNY 8/25/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2003 Report Share Posted July 15, 2003 In a message dated 7/16/2003 1:25:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, apa@... writes: > Allan > > Im not against low carbing after surg.but its just I couldnt do it before > why should I be able to do it after,I hope I can.. > > Allan before surgery you have a choice it does not make you sick to eat high carbs and high fat and sugar. AFTER SURGERY it is a whole new ballgame you will make yourself very sick to try and maintain the same eating habits. After surgery you do not have the same digestive pattern and processing of foods that a person without surgery has. When it all boils down to it you must want to change. The surgery physically changes you for the rest of your life and you must adapt to it. There is a difference from wanting to adapt to something because you think you can and adapting to something because your body is forcing you to. Lori Anne pre-op Lap RNY 8/25/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2003 Report Share Posted July 15, 2003 > Allan > It matters because you do not eat near the quantity of food you ate before. It is like being retrained. You only have this much space in your stomach to fill in each meal. You must learn to make wise choices to maximize nutrition. It is a very low carb diet afterwards, but you can have very small amounts of carbs here and there. > > My surgeon has me on clear liquids only for two weeks, then liquids and very soft foods for two weeks. When I'm at 1 month post op I can choose what I eat in very small portions and try one thing at a time to keep track of what irritates me and what works ok. He suggests that I avoid red meats for a bit longer, but to try them when I'm ready. > I hope this makes sense. > in OK > post op 7-8-03 Hi , Things changed so drastically for me, I didnt crave the carbs after surgery like I did before the surgery. Now, I crave ice water! Take care, Angie > Aug 14th > > > im 40 years old have a bmi of 42 and I havefinished everything > except my initial consult with my Surgeon.It will be Aug 14th. > > My question is that it seems like everyone begins living low carb > after the surgery but I myself have tried low carb to lose weight > before and couldnt stand it.I imagine there are many others who have > done the same thing.What makes it any different after surgery? > > Allan > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2003 Report Share Posted July 15, 2003 >On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 00:10:56 -0400 (EDT) Grimmlah1@... wrote. >Hi Allan > >Welcome to the group the " low carb " after surgery is due to the RNY. The >effects of carbs and sugars on the system can be drastic because we have no >stomach acid to break these down and they tend to go directly into the lower >intestine and cause a kind of shock to the system. This " shock " can cause shaking, >sweating, diarrhea, vomiting, and heart palpitations. Plus eating too many >carbs defeats the purpose of trying to lose the weight even after surgery. >Remember the surgery itself is not the jump-start to losing weight because there >are many people who will testify that even with a reduced stomach they have >still managed to gain a large portion of weight back. So it is not the small >stomach it has everything to do with the quality of the food you put into it. > >That is why as a RNY patient post op you experience life more like a person >on an Atkins Program, high protein, low carbs and very little sugar or sodium. > >Hope this helps a little > >Lori Anne >pre-op Lap RNY >8/25/03 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 you do not necessarily have to live low carb but, you MUST live HIGH PROTEIN-which kind of resembles the low carb routine. > im 40 years old have a bmi of 42 and I havefinished everything > except my initial consult with my Surgeon.It will be Aug 14th. > > My question is that it seems like everyone begins living low carb > after the surgery but I myself have tried low carb to lose weight > before and couldnt stand it.I imagine there are many others who have > done the same thing.What makes it any different after surgery? > > Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 I never did Atkins as a diet but my surgeon put me on protein and veggies only for the two weeks before surgery. He does this to shrink the liver as much as possible. What I found for me is that I lost 21 lbs and did okay with it but that in order to fill me up I had to eat lots of protein and that was just too much. It actually kept me satisfied quite well and I didn't snack in general, but I felt like I was eating a cow due to so much protein. However, as a post-op I still eat mostly protein but it is such a small quantity of food that I don't feel like I am eating a cow anymore. My desires/cravings to carb load are gone. I do get natural carbs in fruit and veggies some but eat a very small quantity of refined carbs and only occassionally. My tastes have changed. I guess until you live the post-op life it is too hard to comprehend how much things will change. I know I would not have been able to do Atkins for very long - too much quantity of protein, but this I feel I can do the rest of my life. It just is a whole different way of eating than anything I have every experienced before. D. 5'9 " – Age 42 – BMI 65.3 442/319/Anywhere under 250 lbs -123 lbs as of July 15th – BMI 47.1 21 before surgery, 102 after Open RNY-150 cm, 1/2 oz pouch - Feb 3, 2003 Surgeon - n, MD - Neenah, WI > > Im not against low carbing after surg.but its just I couldnt do it before > why should I be able to do it after,I hope I can.. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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