Guest guest Posted February 29, 2004 Report Share Posted February 29, 2004 does anyone know what the name of a condition might be for the knee...it begins with osteo & has to do w/having too much fluid in it? maybe osteochon..something. i'm going back to my dr. tomorrow, so i'll ask him then. i looked all over the internet, but couldn't find it at all. anyway, my knee sure felt better after he drained it. only thing is, it didn't feel good when he stuck the needle in w/out any novacaine. then he's moving it around something fierce, which REALLY HURTS!!! next time, he WILL use a pain killer. love & hugs to all () : ) jily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2004 Report Share Posted February 29, 2004 In a message dated 2/29/2004 4:01:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, anjiltoes@... writes: does anyone know what the name of a condition might be for the knee...it begins with osteo & has to do w/having too much fluid in it? maybe osteochon..something. i'm going back to my dr. tomorrow, so i'll ask him then. i looked all over the internet, but couldn't find it at all. anyway, my knee sure felt better after he drained it. only thing is, it didn't feel good when he stuck the needle in w/out any novacaine. then he's moving it around something fierce, which REALLY HURTS!!! next time, he WILL use a pain killer. " Water on the knee, " the laymen's term, is synovitis. It's actually synovial fluid that has sorta seeped in & can be due to tons of situations, which is where you probably got the osteo or osteochon... from. The synovitis can be caused by torn cartilage, torn ligaments, plain old arthritis, knee cap stuff, etc., & it causes pressure, which is why it feels soooooo good when they remove it. Problem is, that if the underlying issue has nothing done about it, it's surely possible that the fluid will build back up again. So, your knee looks swollen before they suck it out (aspirate it) & then the swelling, pressure & therefore the pain is reduced, but the problem isn't really corrected. There has to be a diagnosis, a problem, that caused the fluid to build up. The old R.I.C.E diet can often be recommended to reduce the swelling. And no, you don't eat it!!! I want to be sure with you Californian's, the sun affecting your brains & the 98 new diets that seem to come out of there every week, so that you get it.... LOL R.I.C.E. stands for rest, ice, compression, and elevation: Rest – take it easy for a couple of days Ice – initially, apply ice packs to the knee 20 minutes on 20 minutes off, for several hours for 2-3 days Compression – an elastic wrap/ace or something like that. Not too tight, to help keep the swelling down. Elevation – elevate on pillows or significant others' belly, whatever is nearby. Oops, I meant, blanket, etc. Anti-inflammatories maybe, if you can, could also possibly. Also, the osteochon..something. could have been Osteochondritis Dessecans And copying a definition from a medical orthopedic site, technically it, " Is a transcondylar fracture that splits the articular cartilage from the adjacent bone leaving a flap of cartilage attached at one edge or a free fragment. If the fragment is isolated from the vascular supply it becomes necrotic. " That sounds a bit more serious than I would think it to be, but that this site's definition. And it could very well be, that this isn't what the Dr. said. Also, there are some reports out there, not all, that say that some types of it, if that's what it is, is genetic & actually my son had it last year (but he does not have EDS), so maybe you got it from me, because after all, we are related through EDS! Maybe that's pushing the envelope a bit too far............... I've always, gotta say this, this is not meant to be medical advice by/from me or anyone else. It's what I would do if it happened to me. I'm not inferring anything or saying this will help. Let's say I read it in the comics & it sounded like a good idea! Also honey, I'm sorry I haven't gotten back to you sooner on your other emails, I've been incredibly overloaded, but I miss you terribly & hold you in my arms, all the time. Wish you were coming to Buffalo. Love you, will be in touch soon. Let me know how you do. Love you lots, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2004 Report Share Posted February 29, 2004 Jil, the closest thing I could find is this: osteochondritis Inflammation <http://cancerweb.ncl.ac.uk/cgi-bin/omd?Inflammation> of a bone <http://cancerweb.ncl.ac.uk/cgi-bin/omd?bone> and its cartilage <http://cancerweb.ncl.ac.uk/cgi-bin/omd?cartilage> . Love Lana anjil question does anyone know what the name of a condition might be for the knee...it begins with osteo & has to do w/having too much fluid in it? maybe osteochon..something. i'm going back to my dr. tomorrow, so i'll ask him then. i looked all over the internet, but couldn't find it at all. anyway, my knee sure felt better after he drained it. only thing is, it didn't feel good when he stuck the needle in w/out any novacaine. then he's moving it around something fierce, which REALLY HURTS!!! next time, he WILL use a pain killer. love & hugs to all () : ) jily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2004 Report Share Posted March 1, 2004 Hi , You got me curious now... Synovitis is an inflammation of the synovial lining, or the joint capsule. This is very common in inflammatory arthritis (Rheumatoid Arthritis, Psoriatic Arthritis etc.). I thought you could have " Water on the knee " without any synovitis present (but maybe you use the term differently in the US than we do here?). E.g if you have an injury like e.g. injury of the ACL/PCL, other ligament injuries, a torn meniscus, injury of the joint cartilage, osteoarthritis etc. etc. I thought excess synovial fluid could build up for those reasons alone, without any synovitis present... Am I wrong? Also, excess synovial fluid is quite common in many EDSers, right? Because of trauma caused e.g. by daily activities, subluxations etc ? There are some really interesting and confusing things while reading about many of these things too. E.g. you in the US use the term Osteoarthritis, which suggest that it is an inflammatory process going on, rather than a degenerative one. Here in Norway we call it Arthrosis or Osteoarthrosis - but it is the same thing. I looked up Osteochondritis too, and it seems to be the same with that too. The word suggest something inflammatory because of the -itis ending, but it seems to be the same thing here, has nothing to do with inflammation. It is rather " a painful fragmentation of an articular surface--most commonly affects the knee joint " (according to this site: http://www.physsportsmed.com/issues/1996/06_96/ralston.htm - a very good article about Osteochondritis of the Knee)... Actually that sounds interesting, and isn't that something you would think maybe an EDSer could be more prone to than other people? PS! I have butterflies in my tummy now... I just got some phone calls... A national TV channel wants to make something on Psoriasis, and I have to be interviewed (both as " me " and the pres. of the NPA) and also participate in a follow-up thing in studio... I need VALIUM... As if I don't have tachycardia to begin with... Put ME in front of a camera??? I hate that kind of thing, I could panic from much less, I tell you.... hugs, Aase Marit >In a message dated 2/29/2004 4:01:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, >anjiltoes@... writes: >does anyone know what the name of a condition might be for the knee...it >begins with osteo & has to do w/having too much fluid in it? maybe >osteochon..something. i'm going back to my dr. tomorrow, so i'll >ask him then. i looked >all over the internet, but couldn't find it at all. >anyway, my knee sure felt better after he drained it. only thing is, it >didn't feel good when he stuck the needle in w/out any novacaine. then he's >moving it around something fierce, which REALLY HURTS!!! next time, he WILL >use a pain killer. > " Water on the knee, " the laymen's term, is synovitis. It's actually synovial >fluid that has sorta seeped in & can be due to tons of situations, which is >where you probably got the osteo or osteochon... from. > >The synovitis can be caused by torn cartilage, torn ligaments, plain old >arthritis, knee cap stuff, etc., & it causes pressure, which is why it feels >soooooo good when they remove it. Problem is, that if the >underlying issue has >nothing done about it, it's surely possible that the fluid will build back up >again. > >So, your knee looks swollen before they suck it out (aspirate it) & then the >swelling, pressure & therefore the pain is reduced, but the problem isn't >really corrected. There has to be a diagnosis, a problem, that >caused the fluid >to build up. > >The old R.I.C.E diet can often be recommended to reduce the swelling. And >no, you don't eat it!!! I want to be sure with you Californian's, the sun >affecting your brains & the 98 new diets that seem to come out of >there every week, >so that you get it.... LOL > > R.I.C.E. stands for rest, ice, compression, and elevation: >Rest - take it easy for a couple of days >Ice - initially, apply ice packs to the knee 20 minutes on 20 minutes off, >for several hours for 2-3 days >Compression - an elastic wrap/ace or something like that. Not too tight, to >help keep the swelling down. >Elevation - elevate on pillows or significant others' belly, whatever is >nearby. Oops, I meant, blanket, etc. Anti-inflammatories maybe, if you can, >could also possibly. > >Also, the osteochon..something. could have been Osteochondritis Dessecans >And copying a definition from a medical orthopedic site, technically it, > > " Is a transcondylar fracture that splits the articular cartilage from the >adjacent bone leaving a flap of cartilage attached at one edge or a free >fragment. If the fragment is isolated from the vascular supply it >becomes necrotic. " > >That sounds a bit more serious than I would think it to be, but that this >site's definition. And it could very well be, that this isn't what >the Dr. said. >Also, there are some reports out there, not all, that say that some types of >it, if that's what it is, is genetic & actually my son had it last year (but >he does not have EDS), so maybe you got it from me, because after all, we are >related through EDS! Maybe that's pushing the envelope a bit too >far............... > >I've always, gotta say this, this is not meant to be medical advice by/from >me or anyone else. It's what I would do if it happened to me. I'm not >inferring anything or saying this will help. Let's say I read it in >the comics & it >sounded like a good idea! > >Also honey, I'm sorry I haven't gotten back to you sooner on your other >emails, I've been incredibly overloaded, but I miss you terribly & >hold you in my >arms, all the time. Wish you were coming to Buffalo. Love you, will be in >touch soon. Let me know how you do. Love you lots, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.