Re: Re: One result of slip-signing cooperation

August 14, 2001

Pete:

I frequently disagreed with Mona's posts, but decided not to respond. Per

coercion - I'm against any coercion to any damn " recovery " group. Not one

has any proof that their methodology works. I say - one dui, fine 'em and

send them to some sort of " awareness " course. Two dui's - fine 'em, suspend

their license, and put them on probation and subject them to UA's.

No matter what measures are taken, when a person wants to drink and drive,

they will drink and drive. As we know, this sometimes results in injury and

death to innocent people.

When a person needs/wants to drive, they will drive.

My license was suspended (non-alcohol related) after a minor accident and I

had no insurance, though it was the other driver's fault. I drove on a

suspended license for two years - very carefully. I couldn't afford to fix

it for two years, but I had to drive to work.

So there aren't any perfect solutions. You can put a device on someone's car

to keep them from driving drunk, so they take the keys to their spouses car

and drive.

Bottom line - coerced " treatment " is a stupid ass idea. I see it's decline

coming slowly.

Sorry if the tone of this post is " pissy " . I'm feeling a little " pissy " today.

Jan

In a message dated 8/14/01 4:06:34 PM Central Daylight Time,

watts_pete@... writes:

<< Hi Jan

I was quite surprised that Mona appeard to defend a right for an

employer to not employ someone black or even to not serve someone

black coffee (that's the person, not the coffee) yet neverthless was

apparently cool with coercing someone to a recovery group. I

wondered what happened if the support group said the newbie has to

serve coffee (a common suggestion). Am I allowed to refuse to serve

the black folks,but not to serve coffee altogether? What if they're

all black? Or I don't want to serve white fols and they're all white?

P.

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