melissa

[Guest guest]

Because obviously they do not know anything about coconut oil--most people do

not. It is through no fault of their own, but the information is simply not as

prevalant as it should be because of the vegatable oil industry. That industry

has people thinking that because it has saturated fat it will clog your

arteries, when it quite to the oppisite. All propaganda for money's sake...

Coconut oil is high heat with a smoking point of 325 degrees, higher than most

any other oil--if I am not mistaken palm oil is the only oil with a higher smoke

point.

I though coconut oil was supposed to be high temp oil, why is West Bend saying

it's low temp oil and burns in their poppers?

Yours In Liberty, - Colorado, U.S.A.

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On 30 Jan 2004 at 9:02, Caitlin Lorraine wrote:

> Because obviously they do not know anything about coconut oil--most

> people do not.

Well something made it burn and smoke my whole popper up with a white waxy

substance. Do you have any charts showing the burn temperatures of various

cooking oils?

> It is through no fault of their own, but the information

> is simply not as prevalant as it should be because of the vegatable oil

> industry. That industry has people thinking that because it has saturated

> fat it will clog your arteries, when it quite to the oppisite. All

> propaganda for money's sake...

I know they used to say that about nuts too, but now they say that eating some

peanuts every day could prevent heart disease.

> Coconut oil is high heat with a smoking

> point of 325 degrees, higher than most any other oil--if I am not

> mistaken palm oil is the only oil with a higher smoke point.

Maybe I'll have to get some and melt it first in the microwave.

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Re: melissa

> On 30 Jan 2004 at 9:02, Caitlin Lorraine wrote:

>

> > Because obviously they do not know anything about coconut

oil--most

> > people do not.

>

> Well something made it burn and smoke my whole popper up with a

white waxy

> substance. Do you have any charts showing the burn temperatures of

various

> cooking oils?

Do you still have the jar of coconut oil which caused you

problems? What does it say on the label? Is it 100% pure coconut

oil, or is it a blend with some other oil?

Alobar

[Guest guest]

Maybe I'll have to get some and melt it first in the microwave.

Dear ,

I'd strongly advise against melting it in the microwave first! Coconut oil

should never be microwaved. Microwaving alters the chemical makeup of it and

destroys all its good properties - what a waste of money!

Yopu can melt it by placing a pot of it in a pan of hot water, or on the hetaed

plate of a coffee maker.

Sharon

[Guest guest]

On 30 Jan 2004 at 15:25, Alobar wrote:

>

> Re: melissa

>

>

> > On 30 Jan 2004 at 9:02, Caitlin Lorraine wrote:

> >

> > > Because obviously they do not know anything about coconut

> oil--most

> > > people do not.

> >

> > Well something made it burn and smoke my whole popper up with a

> white waxy

> > substance. Do you have any charts showing the burn temperatures of

> various

> > cooking oils?

>

> Do you still have the jar of coconut oil which caused you

> problems?

No.

> What does it say on the label? Is it 100% pure coconut

> oil, or is it a blend with some other oil?

It was virgin oil that I got from Vitamin Cottage at the time, I think it was

100% pure, and it was a milky white solid in the jar.

Yours In Liberty, - Colorado, U.S.A.

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I'd like to play chess in the Lakewood area if anyone is

interested. Sunday afternoons are usually best for me.

Also if anyone is interested in getting together for

martial arts, that would be cool too.

Would like to find friends in the west Denver area with

similar *interests* & *values*. -> Shaolin-based Martial

arts & sparring, Writing, Rock music, Sci-Fi, Chess,

Libertarian, Objectivist, RKBA, guns & Shooting.

" Live to spar and spar to live. "

[Guest guest]

,

I agree with you on the good oils and the nuts, but peanuts are not

nuts. They're a legume. Nuts grow on trees. Peanuts underground.

It's a common misconception. Peanuts are very moldy and one of the

most allergic foods. Nuts are in a different category. I'm

allergic to peanuts, but not nuts. I know there is more to all

this. I know this from personal experience.

Just thought you'd want to know.

aireph

>

> > Because obviously they do not know anything about coconut oil--

most

> > people do not.

>

> Well something made it burn and smoke my whole popper up with a

white waxy

> substance. Do you have any charts showing the burn temperatures of

various

> cooking oils?

>

> > It is through no fault of their own, but the information

> > is simply not as prevalant as it should be because of the

vegatable oil

> > industry. That industry has people thinking that because it

has saturated

> > fat it will clog your arteries, when it quite to the oppisite.

All

> > propaganda for money's sake...

>

> I know they used to say that about nuts too, but now they say that

eating some

> peanuts every day could prevent heart disease.

>

> > Coconut oil is high heat with a smoking

> > point of 325 degrees, higher than most any other oil--if I am

not

> > mistaken palm oil is the only oil with a higher smoke point.

>

> Maybe I'll have to get some and melt it first in the microwave.

>

> Yours In Liberty, - Colorado, U.S.A.

[Guest guest]

REPLY:

Something does not add up------

Coconut oil is used by the ton in theatres to make popcorn! A ton (or tonne

in England) is 2000 pounds.

I have been using Coconut oil for frying for EIGHT years. This covers

several kinds of coconut oil. In my experience I never burnt it or got it

smoking unless I foolishly left the stove on high and then foolishly left

the kitchen.

Don't need a chart, coconut oil is among the most heat resistant.

It does not make sense to blame the coconut oil!

This lister must have been cooking at a dangerous temperature; Or have a

defective popper;

Or it was not coconut oil;

Or does this lister work for the Canola oil industry and is just

trying to " psyche " out the beginners on this list.

I see ridiculous untenable claims similar to this on health lists from time

to time.

This one is the " Big Lie " method of suggesting something so far, far out

of the ballpark in hopes a few newcomers will believe it.

New readers, look at all the negative print space this has gotten from

polite responders, that is all these people hope for.

Well here and now lets put this in the garbage and be done with it.

Go see www.coconut-info.com for the facts.

Best Regards,

Lorenzo ------>Factual responder.

" Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. "

>--about coconut oil--!

> Well something made it burn and smoke my whole popper up with a

white waxy

> substance. Do you have any charts showing the burn temperatures of

various

> cooking oils?

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[Guest guest]

HELLO MELISSA,

I CAREFULLY READ AND THEN RE-READ YOUR POST ON DOCTORS WHO HEAR

THINGS FROM THEIR PATIENTS THAT THEY MAY HAVE HEARD ON TV OR THE

INTERNET ETC..... I AGREE THAT THEY MUST BE CAREFUL ABOUT LAW SUITS

AND THEIR LICENSES...

I ALSO FEEL IN MY HEART, THAT AS A PATIENT, I AM COMING TO A

DOCTOR AND PLACING MY TRUST AND MY LIFE IN THEM AS HELPER AND

CONFIDANT. I WOULD EXPECT THAT THEY DID NOT LOOK AT ME AS A

POTENTIAL PERSON THAT IS GOING TO SUE THEM FOR MALPRACTICE EVERY

TIME I ENTER THEIR EXAM ROOMS. I AM A HUMAN BEING, I HAVE FEARS,

NEEDS, AND QUESTIONS. THE TIME ALLOTED IS A RACE, THE DOCTORS ARE

DISTRACTED BY TIME, THE EXPENSE OF SEEING THAT DOCTOR IS OUTRAGEOUS

AND ANOTHER TOPIC ALL TOGETHER. FOR THAT EXORBITANT FEE THAT MUST

BE PAID FOR EVERY OFFICE VISIT, I WOULD AT LEAST THINK THAT I SHOULD

BE OBSERVED AS A CARING, FEELING HUMAN BEING RATHER THAN A POTENTIAL

LAW SUIT.

I ALSO REALIZE THAT DOCTORS CANNOT BECOME EMOTIONALLY INVOLVED

WITH THEIR PATIENTS BUT, I AM NOT A ROBOT AND THEIR SHOULD BE SOME

MODICUM OF RESPECT AND DIGNITY THAT WE AS PATIENTS SHOULD BE ALLOWED.

WE ARE NOT LAB PROJECTS, WE ARE NOT JUST YOUR NEXT ARTICLE FOR A

MEDICAL JOURNAL OR A THESIS PAPER. WE ARE PEOPLE THAT NEED HELP AND

FOR US, SOMETIMES THAT MEANS HAVING TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, BECAUSE

THE DOCTOR IS TOO DISTANT AND UNAPPROACHABLE....

SINCERELY, CINDI

[Guest guest]

It seems from what you have written here that it is difficult for you to see

healthcare professionals as able to do both things...both care about their

patients and be protective of both their patients and their licenses. I'm sorry

you feel that way. I would never want to be treated by a person who did not

have concern for ethics and maintenance of their license to give me any sort of

treatment.

CINDI <heinscsf@...> wrote:

HELLO MELISSA,

I CAREFULLY READ AND THEN RE-READ YOUR POST ON DOCTORS WHO HEAR

THINGS FROM THEIR PATIENTS THAT THEY MAY HAVE HEARD ON TV OR THE

INTERNET ETC..... I AGREE THAT THEY MUST BE CAREFUL ABOUT LAW SUITS

AND THEIR LICENSES...

I ALSO FEEL IN MY HEART, THAT AS A PATIENT, I AM COMING TO A

DOCTOR AND PLACING MY TRUST AND MY LIFE IN THEM AS HELPER AND

CONFIDANT. I WOULD EXPECT THAT THEY DID NOT LOOK AT ME AS A

POTENTIAL PERSON THAT IS GOING TO SUE THEM FOR MALPRACTICE EVERY

TIME I ENTER THEIR EXAM ROOMS. I AM A HUMAN BEING, I HAVE FEARS,

NEEDS, AND QUESTIONS. THE TIME ALLOTED IS A RACE, THE DOCTORS ARE

DISTRACTED BY TIME, THE EXPENSE OF SEEING THAT DOCTOR IS OUTRAGEOUS

AND ANOTHER TOPIC ALL TOGETHER. FOR THAT EXORBITANT FEE THAT MUST

BE PAID FOR EVERY OFFICE VISIT, I WOULD AT LEAST THINK THAT I SHOULD

BE OBSERVED AS A CARING, FEELING HUMAN BEING RATHER THAN A POTENTIAL

LAW SUIT.

I ALSO REALIZE THAT DOCTORS CANNOT BECOME EMOTIONALLY INVOLVED

WITH THEIR PATIENTS BUT, I AM NOT A ROBOT AND THEIR SHOULD BE SOME

MODICUM OF RESPECT AND DIGNITY THAT WE AS PATIENTS SHOULD BE ALLOWED.

WE ARE NOT LAB PROJECTS, WE ARE NOT JUST YOUR NEXT ARTICLE FOR A

MEDICAL JOURNAL OR A THESIS PAPER. WE ARE PEOPLE THAT NEED HELP AND

FOR US, SOMETIMES THAT MEANS HAVING TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, BECAUSE

THE DOCTOR IS TOO DISTANT AND UNAPPROACHABLE....

SINCERELY, CINDI

[Guest guest]

Hi Cindi,

I know what you mean. You hate to think you have a nearly

antagonistic relationship from your doctor. I'm very lucky. My

doctor is only 47, 5 years older than me, and he's very honest about

what works and what doesn't and we laugh a lot. I doctor-shopped hard

for him, and was so thrilled when I found the right doctor for me!

I've decided that I see doctors so often, I'm not going to deal with

one who doesn't at least pretend to respect my feelings and opinions.

I'm also lucky because in my area there is actually

competition--there are at least a dozen rheumies within a half hour

drive. But when my doctor went out of network with my insurance, I

decided to pay the extra and keep seeing him. You can't beat a good

relationship with a doctor.

While he did once admonish me for stopping a medication without

talking to him based on what I'd read on the internet (I stopped Metho

when I decided to try to get pregnant--stupid of me!), just last

Friday he encouraged me to read what other patients on the internet

have to say about having their ankles fused -- an operation I'll be

getting sometime down the road. I was really surprised!

One time I interviewed a very young intern for a TV show about jobs.

She told me that she was really disappointed when she started working

at a hospital as a med student. She told me she loved the science of

medicine, and had no idea she would have to deal with people all the

time--not just people, but upset, demanding, impatient people!

Imagine sick people being all emotional! I hope she decided to go the

research route, as I wouldn't want to be her patient! I think a lot

of doctors can be like that, they are more interested in the illness,

as if the person who has it doesn't exist. It doesn't have to be like

that.

Sharon

>

>

> HELLO MELISSA,

>

> I CAREFULLY READ AND THEN RE-READ YOUR POST ON DOCTORS WHO HEAR

> THINGS FROM THEIR PATIENTS THAT THEY MAY HAVE HEARD ON TV OR THE

> INTERNET ETC..... I AGREE THAT THEY MUST BE CAREFUL ABOUT LAW SUITS

> AND THEIR LICENSES...

>

> I ALSO FEEL IN MY HEART, THAT AS A PATIENT, I AM COMING TO A

> DOCTOR AND PLACING MY TRUST AND MY LIFE IN THEM AS HELPER AND

> CONFIDANT. I WOULD EXPECT THAT THEY DID NOT LOOK AT ME AS A

> POTENTIAL PERSON THAT IS GOING TO SUE THEM FOR MALPRACTICE EVERY

> TIME I ENTER THEIR EXAM ROOMS. I AM A HUMAN BEING, I HAVE FEARS,

> NEEDS, AND QUESTIONS. THE TIME ALLOTED IS A RACE, THE DOCTORS ARE

> DISTRACTED BY TIME, THE EXPENSE OF SEEING THAT DOCTOR IS OUTRAGEOUS

> AND ANOTHER TOPIC ALL TOGETHER. FOR THAT EXORBITANT FEE THAT MUST

> BE PAID FOR EVERY OFFICE VISIT, I WOULD AT LEAST THINK THAT I SHOULD

> BE OBSERVED AS A CARING, FEELING HUMAN BEING RATHER THAN A POTENTIAL

> LAW SUIT.

>

> I ALSO REALIZE THAT DOCTORS CANNOT BECOME EMOTIONALLY INVOLVED

> WITH THEIR PATIENTS BUT, I AM NOT A ROBOT AND THEIR SHOULD BE SOME

> MODICUM OF RESPECT AND DIGNITY THAT WE AS PATIENTS SHOULD BE ALLOWED.

> WE ARE NOT LAB PROJECTS, WE ARE NOT JUST YOUR NEXT ARTICLE FOR A

> MEDICAL JOURNAL OR A THESIS PAPER. WE ARE PEOPLE THAT NEED HELP AND

> FOR US, SOMETIMES THAT MEANS HAVING TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, BECAUSE

> THE DOCTOR IS TOO DISTANT AND UNAPPROACHABLE....

>

> SINCERELY, CINDI

[Guest guest]

that is great about insurance; did you have a denial at first? we were just denied so if you have any advice: lepf@... !

does your baby have flat spot on one side mostly or all over back? patrick is mostly left side and his ears are definitely not even. i am glad to hear your baby's are evening out; that was one of my other concerns!

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