Guest guest Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 In a message dated 10/2/05 8:50:26 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, skydancer9@... writes: All in all I don't feel like I learned much except *maybe* 12 carbs raised me 27 points (the 135 reading) in 1h 15m. That seems high to me, but my assumption that my insulin resistance was lower in the evenings was based on the fact that my numbers are normally lower in the late afternoon into evening. >>>>>>>>> The bread test I can't comment on since I " ve never done it. But if 12 grams of carbs only raised your BG 27 points, that's not bad at all. Those 12 grams would raise mine probably around 50-60 points without insulin (unless I'm low or on the way down when 12 grams wouldn't do that at all). Stacey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 In a message dated 10/2/2005 12:27:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, skydancer9@... writes: > At 11:36 AM 10/2/05, Gretchen wrote: > > >It looks to me as if part of the problem is inconsistency in the tests. > >Maybe your meter is not precise enough for this type of test .. I agree with Gretchen. I get much more consistent results with my Glucometer Elite. I've sent you a copy of your graph, off list, Sky. It shows the right general shape and you seem to tolerate the bread fairly well, compared with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 It looks to me as if part of the problem is inconsistency in the tests. Maybe your meter is not precise enough for this type of test. Your one test gave a reading of 117 and 135, an 18-point difference. Try plotting your results with a line showing plus or minus 10 points, and then see if you can make any sense of it. IOW, you'd have 0 98--118 1 hr 114--134 1:45 122--142 etc. Could you then draw a reasonable curve that passed within all the ranges? Gretchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 At 11:36 AM 10/2/05, Gretchen wrote: >It looks to me as if part of the problem is inconsistency in the tests. >Maybe your meter is not precise enough for this type of test. It's a TheraSense Freestyle. How long to meters last? I can check it with the test solution if I can remember where I put it after the move. >etc. Could you then draw a reasonable curve that passed within all the >ranges? I don't know... Might be worth another look. sky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 At 01:24 PM 10/2/05, staceypmartin@... wrote: >The bread test I can't comment on since I " ve never done it. But if 12 grams >of carbs only raised your BG 27 points, that's not bad at all. Those 12 >grams would raise mine probably around 50-60 points without insulin >(unless I'm >low or on the way down when 12 grams wouldn't do that at all). Oh really? I thought that two points per carb (approx) was a lot. If that's really the case for me in the evening then no wonder that Death by Chocolate dessert took me well above 260 and the insulin I shot didn't touch it even though it finally added up to 20u's worth. I found a place that sells the Freestyle strips less than any other site I've found so far. I think the site has been mentioned on the list before. Hocks.com $27.99 for 50 srtips, $79 for 150 strips. http://www.hocks.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc? - sky - Once you pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend. http://www.skydancers.com http://www.skydor.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 At 02:10 PM 10/2/05, DEKEP@... wrote: >I've sent you a copy of your graph, off list, Sky. It shows the right general >shape and you seem to tolerate the bread fairly well, compared with me. Oh, I hadn't read the new mail on the list before I sent off my announcement of your kindness, . Thanks again for the graph! So two folks think my results for the bread were okay and here I thought it was bad. Gives me some hope. I know I'll need to do the test again. I hope I don't have a headache next time. Testing right at dinnertime is bad enough without your head splitting at the same time. I also think that the one unit of Humalog was almost too little to test with, especially since my numbers were virtually back at starting point by then. I dunno... I got the book on Insulin everyone suggested. Now I need to read it. sky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 I think next time just do the bread test alone, forget about the insulin. It will make it shorter. Plus do it a little earlier so you don't get a headache thinking about dinner. If some of these readings were right, your increase of 2 points per gram of carb is fairly low, which indicates you still have pancreatic function or not too much IR. I take a heck of a lot more stuff and with it working in the background, still take a unit of H (to cover a 10 point rise) for each five grams of carb - low GI carbs like veggies. When you get the new strips, you can try another test, see how it correlates to this one and we will see where you are at. Since you will only be using Humalog for special occasions, I don't think you need to be right on the mark. For instance, if you start a meal at 100, and your insulin brings you to 120, that's good enough. You can always take a correction shot. However, if you were using insulin on a regular basis, then you would need to be more precise. I have heard only good things about Hocks. Helen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 At 03:18 PM 10/2/05, Helen Mueller wrote: >I think next time just do the bread test alone, forget about the insulin. > It will make it shorter. Plus do it a little earlier so you don't get >a headache thinking about dinner. The headache wasn't from thinking about dinner. I think it was allergy related. In my head and also at the base of my skull. The timing was actually early as I tend to eat dinner at 8 p.m. and if I go out with friends it's normally at least that. But I didn't want to be testing past midnight. >If some of these readings were right, your increase of 2 points per gram >of carb is fairly low, which indicates you still have pancreatic function >or not too much IR. I take a heck of a lot more stuff and with it >working in the background, still take a unit of H (to cover a 10 point >rise) for each five grams of carb - low GI carbs like veggies. Okay, three folks didn't think that result with the bread was bad. When I get more strips I want to do it again. welll, I want to until I actually start doing it and still managing to stick a finger where I just stuck it an hour ago. It's getting so I flinch sometimes when I push the trigger on the lancet device. On the test, I'd like to see a definite stop to the rise instead of ending up almost where I began. Would the insulin even be needed for that? Could you use TWO slices of bread, I wonder? I need to test how the insulin works so I can figure out carb-to-insulin ratio, darn it. sky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 At 05:10 PM 10/2/05, Sky wrote: >get more strips I want to do it again. welll, I want to until I actually >start doing it and still managing to stick a finger where I just stuck it >an hour ago. Sheesh, that's what happens when you edit and don't recheck. I meant to say that " ...until I actually start doing it and still MANAGE to stick a finger where I just stuck it an hour earlier. " sky Don't talk unless you can improve the silence http://www.skydancers.com http://www.skydor.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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