Re: Surgeon swith a clean record

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In a message dated 1/12/02 9:07:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Graduate-OSSG writes:

> Subject: Searching for Surgeon with clean record

>

> Does anyone know of a surgeon, anywhere in the world, that has never

> lost a WLS patient? This would include a patient that died on the

> table or due to complications from the surgery.

>

> Thanks so much

>

>

>

>

>

,

IMO, if anyone finds this person, STAY AWAY, odds are that they might be

first to put the surgeon back in the bellcurve.

The statistics are that 1 in every 100 IS going to die nationwide. In

comparsions to many other major surgeries, this is excellent! What people

might want to look for is a surgeon insted, is one who has lots of

experience with the surgery they are having, and who has a very good record

with WLS and anda good reputation with other WL surgeons.

As far as I know my surgeon had lost two patients out of about 1000 to date

before hed done my surgery, obviously some had lost more. He had an excellent

reputation and could have probably done my Fobi pouch with a bag on his head.

It was the first time he had done a pouch/stomach transection, but he felt

comfortable enough with the procedure.

:)Adria

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In a message dated 1/12/02 11:28:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, OpenRNY writes:

> In a message dated 1/12/2002 10:51:09 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> vipassana333@... writes:

>

> << The statistics are that 1 in every 100 IS going to die nationwide. >>

>

> That statistic is way too high, it is double in fact. Nationally the

> mortality rate for WLS is 1 in 200 or 0.5%.

>

> Bill in WV

> Open RNY July 7, 1999

> Dr. Harvey J. Sugerman

> Medical College of Virginia, Richmond VA

> Preop Weight 423

> Current Weight 221

> 202 lbs. gone forever

> Check out my website at:http://openrny.homestead.com/WLS.htmlhttp://openrny.homestead.com/WLS.ht\

ml

Thanks Bill, Im gonna post that on the Grad group TOO for , quick!

Before she ends up with outpatient RNY surgery and a Margurita in a tube on

the flatbed of a truck!

Those DRGs in hospitals are getting so nasty, but outapient RNYs, ? You never

know, insurances will cut costs anywhere, picking on us fat people first

sounds about right, after all they have heart bypasses down to a scary

amount of time spent in hospitals. Who knows, maybe has a crystal

ball.

:)A

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And, I might add, has learned from his previous mistakes. Dr Fox & Dr Oh

don't do many of the things that general surgeons do, but they have devised

their own methods of torture based on 40 yrs of bariatric surgeries, such as

the tilted bed. We may have a much lower incidence of blood clots in the

legs, but a higher incidence of profanity in the hospital. Know what I

mean?

Thanks,

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Searching for Surgeon with clean record

> >

> > Does anyone know of a surgeon, anywhere in the world, that has never

> > lost a WLS patient? This would include a patient that died on the

> > table or due to complications from the surgery.

> >

> > Thanks so much

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> ,

> IMO, if anyone finds this person, STAY AWAY, odds are that they might be

> first to put the surgeon back in the bellcurve.

> The statistics are that 1 in every 100 IS going to die nationwide. In

> comparsions to many other major surgeries, this is excellent! What people

> might want to look for is a surgeon insted, is one who has lots of

> experience with the surgery they are having, and who has a very good

record

> with WLS and anda good reputation with other WL surgeons.

>

> As far as I know my surgeon had lost two patients out of about 1000 to

date

> before hed done my surgery, obviously some had lost more. He had an

excellent

> reputation and could have probably done my Fobi pouch with a bag on his

head.

> It was the first time he had done a pouch/stomach transection, but he felt

> comfortable enough with the procedure.

> :)Adria

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Adria, I appreciate that everyone is weary, but please do not make assumptions

that my surgeon is not an excellent surgeon. He has been doing WLS exclusively

for 22 years and has never lost a patient. He prepares his patients for surgery

and follows them closely thereafter. His reputation is so awesome that he is

not able to handle the load. He is already booked for initial consultations

through 2002. He has to close the books until November of every year, and then

within just two weeks he is booked for the following year. His record is what

brought me to him and it was his concept that kept me in his care. I had

surgery 01/25/2001 and have lost 138 pounds with 29 to go to my goal. I

recommend him to everyone that is in ville, Florida and nearby citites

(some of his patients have come from Alaska, overseas, etc).

Why be weary of someone with a perfect record and with soooo much experience?

Searching for Surgeon with clean record

>

> Does anyone know of a surgeon, anywhere in the world, that has never

> lost a WLS patient? This would include a patient that died on the

> table or due to complications from the surgery.

>

> Thanks so much

>

>

>

>

>

,

IMO, if anyone finds this person, STAY AWAY, odds are that they might be

first to put the surgeon back in the bellcurve.

The statistics are that 1 in every 100 IS going to die nationwide. In

comparsions to many other major surgeries, this is excellent! What people

might want to look for is a surgeon insted, is one who has lots of

experience with the surgery they are having, and who has a very good record

with WLS and anda good reputation with other WL surgeons.

As far as I know my surgeon had lost two patients out of about 1000 to date

before hed done my surgery, obviously some had lost more. He had an excellent

reputation and could have probably done my Fobi pouch with a bag on his head.

It was the first time he had done a pouch/stomach transection, but he felt

comfortable enough with the procedure.

:)Adria

[Guest guest]

Now this is hilarious. Sorry, I already had the surgery, was perfectly

successful. I had the open RNY and was out of the hospital in less than 24

hours. It is not for insurance, but for the sake of the patient. Can you

believe that my surgeon has been doing this for 22 years and has never lost a

patient??? It is unbelievable, except for the fact that I did it, so I must

believe it, right?!?

HREF= " http://openrny.homestead.com/WLS.htmlhttp://openrny.homestead.com/WLS.ht\

ml

Thanks Bill, Im gonna post that on the Grad group TOO for , quick!

Before she ends up with outpatient RNY surgery and a Margurita in a tube on

the flatbed of a truck!

Those DRGs in hospitals are getting so nasty, but outapient RNYs, ? You never

know, insurances will cut costs anywhere, picking on us fat people first

sounds about right, after all they have heart bypasses down to a scary

amount of time spent in hospitals. Who knows, maybe has a crystal

ball.

:)A

> Bill in WV

> Open RNY July 7, 1999

> Dr. Harvey J. Sugerman

> Medical College of Virginia, Richmond VA

> Preop Weight 423

> Current Weight 221

> 202 lbs. gone forever

> Check out my website at:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

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In a message dated 1/12/02 10:17:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,

garlandj@... writes:

> Adria, I appreciate that everyone is weary, but please do not make

> assumptions that my surgeon is not an excellent surgeon

,

Sorry to confuse those who lurk as newbies, and maybe I was misunderstood. I

did not mean that any surgeon with a perfect record was not a good surgeon, I

just meant that if you can, the best way to look for a good WL surgeon was to

first check into the kind of surgery you think you want to have, or try to

interview docs who do varied procedures, so they can be fair about whats best

for you, take your time, and then chose by a doctors expereience with the

surgery their reputation in the surgical community, and your feelings about

them when meeting with them...rather than just looking for a surgeon with a

perfect record as its just not a wise way to shop for a surgeon IMO.

Sorry if you misunderstood me or my point.

:)A

[Guest guest]

I think that there are many excellent surgeons doing bariatric surgery...

However, you must research and learn all you can about the doctor you have

chosen to do your surgery..

I thought I had done a good job of researching along with my pcp on the

surgeon I chose.. However, I am now scheduled to have a second revision with

a different surgeon as my former surgeon wouldnt listen to me when I was in

trouble and having serious complications

Hugs,

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/12/02 10:41:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,

garlandj@... writes:

> It is not for insurance, but for the sake of the patient

This would NOT be for the sake of patients except for those who are very

concerened for some reason about being in a hospital. I dont know about your

email, but yes, people ARE shocked, including some Docs I sent yours to. They

do not understand how all the protocals can be completed for a 24 hour

discharge.

Aside from wound care, anestheia, respiratory, passing solid food through,

, Ive got 3 Doc freinds on IM right now and 4MGA docs who flat out

just dont think it is possible.

And insurance would profit here , the meat is in the surgery, OR and

the ICU recovery.

The bread is the room and a little hamburger sprinkled in with the

diagnoistic tests, some of the pads and stuff, meds, and a few other goodies.

:)A

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry if I got snappy. I do that when I am tired and answering 250

emails... I wasn't clear in my first message, so it was my fault.

I totally did not research beyond Dr Yasrebi, as I should have. I asked a lot

of questions on OSSG and went forward with that. My insurance paid for the only

surgeon in my city and once I met Dr Y I was happy. I was so blessed that I did

not have so many of the problems that others do.

Thank you again for your information

Re: Re: Surgeon swith a clean record

In a message dated 1/12/02 10:17:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,

garlandj@... writes:

Adria, I appreciate that everyone is weary, but please do not make

assumptions that my surgeon is not an excellent surgeon

,

Sorry to confuse those who lurk as newbies, and maybe I was misunderstood. I

did not mean that any surgeon with a perfect record was not a good surgeon, I

just meant that if you can, the best way to look for a good WL surgeon was to

first check into the kind of surgery you think you want to have, or try to

interview docs who do varied procedures, so they can be fair about whats best

for you, take your time, and then chose by a doctors expereience with the

surgery their reputation in the surgical community, and your feelings about them

when meeting with them...rather than just looking for a surgeon with a perfect

record as its just not a wise way to shop for a surgeon IMO.

Sorry if you misunderstood me or my point.

:)A

[Guest guest]

I won't try to convince you, but obviously his record stands for something.

Some surgeons spend 45 minutes doing this surgery, but he spends 3 1/2 hours

doing the surgery. He doesn't think the surgery can be done in 45 minutes, but

some surgeons do that too.

He does anywhere from 3-5 surgeries per week (not more than one per day because

he wants to devote himself to that patient) and has never lost a patient and has

never had to readmit someone to the hospital. I can talk until I am blue in my

face (or type), but its obvious that he is doing something right.

Re: Re: Surgeon swith a clean record

In a message dated 1/12/02 10:41:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,

garlandj@... writes:

It is not for insurance, but for the sake of the patient

This would NOT be for the sake of patients except for those who are very

concerened for some reason about being in a hospital. I dont know about your

email, but yes, people ARE shocked, including some Docs I sent yours to. They do

not understand how all the protocals can be completed for a 24 hour discharge.

Aside from wound care, anestheia, respiratory, passing solid food through,

, Ive got 3 Doc freinds on IM right now and 4MGA docs who flat out just

dont think it is possible.

And insurance would profit here , the meat is in the surgery, OR and

the ICU recovery.

The bread is the room and a little hamburger sprinkled in with the diagnoistic

tests, some of the pads and stuff, meds, and a few other goodies.

:)A