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Just to let anyone know who is interested in the ongoing Sober24 saga, we

now have our own little section there (I like to refer to it as the

childrens table) where we are free to discuss alternatives to AA/12 step

recovery tools.

So, if you are interested in passing on your wisdom and your ideas you

can now go to sober24 and post views that are different from AA's in the

section called " Non 12 step recovery posts " it is in the

" SOBER POST " area.

There are a lot of people on the list and 99% are in AA recovery, so it

does give people an opportunity to educate and share different

views.

kisses

Tom Boy

....You may shoot me with your words,

You may cut me with your eyes,

You may kill me with your hatefulness,

But still, like air, I'll rise....

--Maya Angelou

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Go, baby, go!!!!

small victory

Just to let anyone know who is interested in the ongoing Sober24 saga, we now have our own little section there (I like to refer to it as the childrens table) where we are free to discuss alternatives to AA/12 step recovery tools.So, if you are interested in passing on your wisdom and your ideas you can now go to sober24 and post views that are different from AA's in the section called "Non 12 step recovery posts" it is in the "SOBER POST" area.There are a lot of people on the list and 99% are in AA recovery, so it does give people an opportunity to educate and share different views.kissesTom Boy

....You may shoot me with your words,You may cut me with your eyes,You may kill me with your hatefulness,But still, like air, I'll rise....--Maya Angelou

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Hi Tomboy

As the official rep for this list on S24, could you post this for me

I am onetwomany

Why have I been banned - I think you have lost the plot, my posts are not

offensive or untrue, they are my genuine thoughts, I am not making up false

people who you get worried over, I have cahnged my views on AA and you cant seem

to cope with that.

I have never attempted to hack anything, would not know how for a start

I do not use a cable modem, I have to dial up on 56K line, especially when NTL

drops the line on a regular basis.

The fact my telco company is laying off is not unusual at the moment - is it????

I dont know what you are talking about remailers, I use web based email so that

I can access at work as well, I think there is a little company called Microsoft

who do this kind of thing as well !.Hotmail is it

You are well off track and your comments are not true.

I guess over there in the States you would get some litigation going, but I dont

care about that.

Cheers anyway, have a nice life.

Originally posted by capecod:

The reason for my banning onetomany include a hack attempt on his part and

the fact that he was useing a cable modem connection from a UK

provider with known vulnerabilities-heightened by their annoncement yesterday of

massive layoffs due to financial difficulties further comprimising their

network. Anyone useing anonymous remailers or attemting to exploit TCP or port

vulnerabilities will also be permantly banned.

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First of all I haven't been given any kind of " official rep

status " am just someone who is trying to get something started over

there (which reminds me please consider posing questions about recovery

there , so that we can get the ball rolling).

I am not comfortable with posting that because I don't know the full

story. I haven't been privy to any private emails to admin or anything

like that.

*But* I know that GregW has been extremely reasonable from the get go

(capecod *now* that is a different story) so I would suggest that you

email him with what you have said here. It won't hurt to try!

His email address is:

gkw@...

would be interested in knowing the response!

if you do get back on, make sure you visit us at the childrens

table!

kisses

Tom Boy

At 05:18 AM 14/12/01 +0800, you wrote:

Hi Tomboy

As the official rep for this list on S24, could you post this for

me

I am onetwomany

Why have I been banned - I think you have lost the plot, my posts are not

offensive or untrue, they are my genuine thoughts, I am not making up

false people who you get worried over, I have cahnged my views on AA and

you cant seem to cope with that.

I have never attempted to hack anything, would not know how for a

start

I do not use a cable modem, I have to dial up on 56K line, especially

when NTL drops the line on a regular basis.

The fact my telco company is laying off is not unusual at the moment - is

it????

I dont know what you are talking about remailers, I use web based email

so that I can access at work as well, I think there is a little company

called Microsoft who do this kind of thing as well !.Hotmail is

it

You are well off track and your comments are not true.

I guess over there in the States you would get some litigation going, but

I dont care about that.

Cheers anyway, have a nice life.

Originally posted by capecod:

The reason<s> for my banning onetomany include a hack attempt on

his part and the fact that he was useing a cable modem <alaways on>

connection from a UK provider with known vulnerabilities-heightened by

their annoncement yesterday of massive layoffs due to financial

difficulties further comprimising their network. Anyone useing anonymous

remailers or attemting to exploit TCP or port vulnerabilities will also

be permantly banned. <if you don't know what these things are Your

Fine :) if you do then you have been warned-

If it don't apply let it fly ;);)

Lizard and Tom are still here and have not been banned but as Tom noted I

have loged their ISP connections and their Zone Admins.

eof/cc

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..fashion.meets.function.meets.communication.

..our.collections.at:

http://skim.com/product

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First of all I haven't been given any kind of " official rep

status " am just someone who is trying to get something started over

there (which reminds me please consider posing questions about recovery

there , so that we can get the ball rolling).

I am not comfortable with posting that because I don't know the full

story. I haven't been privy to any private emails to admin or anything

like that.

*But* I know that GregW has been extremely reasonable from the get go

(capecod *now* that is a different story) so I would suggest that you

email him with what you have said here. It won't hurt to try!

His email address is:

gkw@...

would be interested in knowing the response!

if you do get back on, make sure you visit us at the childrens

table!

kisses

Tom Boy

At 05:18 AM 14/12/01 +0800, you wrote:

Hi Tomboy

As the official rep for this list on S24, could you post this for

me

I am onetwomany

Why have I been banned - I think you have lost the plot, my posts are not

offensive or untrue, they are my genuine thoughts, I am not making up

false people who you get worried over, I have cahnged my views on AA and

you cant seem to cope with that.

I have never attempted to hack anything, would not know how for a

start

I do not use a cable modem, I have to dial up on 56K line, especially

when NTL drops the line on a regular basis.

The fact my telco company is laying off is not unusual at the moment - is

it????

I dont know what you are talking about remailers, I use web based email

so that I can access at work as well, I think there is a little company

called Microsoft who do this kind of thing as well !.Hotmail is

it

You are well off track and your comments are not true.

I guess over there in the States you would get some litigation going, but

I dont care about that.

Cheers anyway, have a nice life.

Originally posted by capecod:

The reason<s> for my banning onetomany include a hack attempt on

his part and the fact that he was useing a cable modem <alaways on>

connection from a UK provider with known vulnerabilities-heightened by

their annoncement yesterday of massive layoffs due to financial

difficulties further comprimising their network. Anyone useing anonymous

remailers or attemting to exploit TCP or port vulnerabilities will also

be permantly banned. <if you don't know what these things are Your

Fine :) if you do then you have been warned-

If it don't apply let it fly ;);)

Lizard and Tom are still here and have not been banned but as Tom noted I

have loged their ISP connections and their Zone Admins.

eof/cc

--

..:: powered by

http://skim.com ::.

____________________________________________

skim.com - where your shirt is your address.

..fashion.meets.function.meets.communication.

..our.collections.at:

http://skim.com/product

--------------------------------------------

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Hi Tomboy

There is no story,

the first I heard of my ban was on here tonight!

I have not had any emails

When I could not post today I sent the same as I posted to you, which is what I

tried to post to the site, to the S24 people,

Just felt like I had no right to reply to what are his misunderstandings at best

or lies at worst.

Just thought you might help out, not to worry if you dont feel able.

Cheers

> First of all I haven't been given any kind of " official rep status " am just

> someone who is trying to get something started over there (which reminds me

> please consider posing questions about recovery there , so that we can get

> the ball rolling).

> I am not comfortable with posting that because I don't know the full story.

> I haven't been privy to any private emails to admin or anything like that.

> *But* I know that GregW has been extremely reasonable from the get go

> (capecod *now* that is a different story) so I would suggest that you email

> him with what you have said here. It won't hurt to try!

> His email address is:

>

> gkw@...

>

> would be interested in knowing the response!

> if you do get back on, make sure you visit us at the childrens table!

>

> kisses

> Tom Boy

>

>

> At 05:18 AM 14/12/01 +0800, you wrote:

> >Hi Tomboy

> >

> >As the official rep for this list on S24, could you post this for me

> >

> >

> >I am onetwomany

> >

> >Why have I been banned - I think you have lost the plot, my posts are not

> >offensive or untrue, they are my genuine thoughts, I am not making up

> >false people who you get worried over, I have cahnged my views on AA and

> >you cant seem to cope with that.

> >

> >I have never attempted to hack anything, would not know how for a start

> >

> >I do not use a cable modem, I have to dial up on 56K line, especially when

> >NTL drops the line on a regular basis.

> >

> >The fact my telco company is laying off is not unusual at the moment - is

> >it????

> >

> >I dont know what you are talking about remailers, I use web based email so

> >that I can access at work as well, I think there is a little company

> >called Microsoft who do this kind of thing as well !.Hotmail is it

> >

> >You are well off track and your comments are not true.

> >

> >I guess over there in the States you would get some litigation going, but

> >I dont care about that.

> >

> >Cheers anyway, have a nice life.

> >

> >

Originally posted by capecod:

> >The reason for my banning onetomany include a hack attempt on his

> >part and the fact that he was useing a cable modem connection

> >from a UK provider with known vulnerabilities-heightened by their

> >annoncement yesterday of massive layoffs due to financial difficulties

> >further comprimising their network. Anyone useing anonymous remailers or

> >attemting to exploit TCP or port vulnerabilities will also be permantly

> >banned.

>then you have been warned-

> >

> >If it don't apply let it fly ;);)

> >

> >Lizard and Tom are still here and have not been banned but as Tom noted I

> >have loged their ISP connections and their Zone Admins.

> >

> >

> >eof/cc

> >

> >

> >--

> >

> >

> >.:: powered by http://skim.com ::.

> >____________________________________________

> >skim.com - where your shirt is your address.

> >

> >.fashion.meets.function.meets.communication.

> >.our.collections.at: http://skim.com/product

> >--------------------------------------------

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi Tomboy

There is no story,

the first I heard of my ban was on here tonight!

I have not had any emails

When I could not post today I sent the same as I posted to you, which is what I

tried to post to the site, to the S24 people,

Just felt like I had no right to reply to what are his misunderstandings at best

or lies at worst.

Just thought you might help out, not to worry if you dont feel able.

Cheers

> First of all I haven't been given any kind of " official rep status " am just

> someone who is trying to get something started over there (which reminds me

> please consider posing questions about recovery there , so that we can get

> the ball rolling).

> I am not comfortable with posting that because I don't know the full story.

> I haven't been privy to any private emails to admin or anything like that.

> *But* I know that GregW has been extremely reasonable from the get go

> (capecod *now* that is a different story) so I would suggest that you email

> him with what you have said here. It won't hurt to try!

> His email address is:

>

> gkw@...

>

> would be interested in knowing the response!

> if you do get back on, make sure you visit us at the childrens table!

>

> kisses

> Tom Boy

>

>

> At 05:18 AM 14/12/01 +0800, you wrote:

> >Hi Tomboy

> >

> >As the official rep for this list on S24, could you post this for me

> >

> >

> >I am onetwomany

> >

> >Why have I been banned - I think you have lost the plot, my posts are not

> >offensive or untrue, they are my genuine thoughts, I am not making up

> >false people who you get worried over, I have cahnged my views on AA and

> >you cant seem to cope with that.

> >

> >I have never attempted to hack anything, would not know how for a start

> >

> >I do not use a cable modem, I have to dial up on 56K line, especially when

> >NTL drops the line on a regular basis.

> >

> >The fact my telco company is laying off is not unusual at the moment - is

> >it????

> >

> >I dont know what you are talking about remailers, I use web based email so

> >that I can access at work as well, I think there is a little company

> >called Microsoft who do this kind of thing as well !.Hotmail is it

> >

> >You are well off track and your comments are not true.

> >

> >I guess over there in the States you would get some litigation going, but

> >I dont care about that.

> >

> >Cheers anyway, have a nice life.

> >

> >

Originally posted by capecod:

> >The reason for my banning onetomany include a hack attempt on his

> >part and the fact that he was useing a cable modem connection

> >from a UK provider with known vulnerabilities-heightened by their

> >annoncement yesterday of massive layoffs due to financial difficulties

> >further comprimising their network. Anyone useing anonymous remailers or

> >attemting to exploit TCP or port vulnerabilities will also be permantly

> >banned.

>then you have been warned-

> >

> >If it don't apply let it fly ;);)

> >

> >Lizard and Tom are still here and have not been banned but as Tom noted I

> >have loged their ISP connections and their Zone Admins.

> >

> >

> >eof/cc

> >

> >

> >--

> >

> >

> >.:: powered by http://skim.com ::.

> >____________________________________________

> >skim.com - where your shirt is your address.

> >

> >.fashion.meets.function.meets.communication.

> >.our.collections.at: http://skim.com/product

> >--------------------------------------------

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi Tomboy,

What happened to "in the backyard"? I posted some stuff last night and can't find it. Any clues or have they just cracked it with us?

Cheers

small victory

Just to let anyone know who is interested in the ongoing Sober24 saga, we now have our own little section there (I like to refer to it as the childrens table) where we are free to discuss alternatives to AA/12 step recovery tools.So, if you are interested in passing on your wisdom and your ideas you can now go to sober24 and post views that are different from AA's in the section called "Non 12 step recovery posts" it is in the "SOBER POST" area.There are a lot of people on the list and 99% are in AA recovery, so it does give people an opportunity to educate and share different views.kissesTom Boy

....You may shoot me with your words,You may cut me with your eyes,You may kill me with your hatefulness,But still, like air, I'll rise....--Maya Angelou

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