So frustrated with doctors now

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In a message dated 3/8/2006 12:57:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

weholland@... writes:

Don't let your doctors dictate your life. Scream and yell until someone

takes care of you. You are the one paying the bill, not them.

Remember, they work for you.

Doctors may work for us, but they can also refuse to work for us. Screaming

and yelling does not always get the best results.

hugs

Eunice

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In a message dated 3/8/2006 12:57:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

weholland@... writes:

Don't let your doctors dictate your life. Scream and yell until someone

takes care of you. You are the one paying the bill, not them.

Remember, they work for you.

Doctors may work for us, but they can also refuse to work for us. Screaming

and yelling does not always get the best results.

hugs

Eunice

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In a message dated 3/8/2006 12:57:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

weholland@... writes:

Don't let your doctors dictate your life. Scream and yell until someone

takes care of you. You are the one paying the bill, not them.

Remember, they work for you.

Doctors may work for us, but they can also refuse to work for us. Screaming

and yelling does not always get the best results.

hugs

Eunice

[Guest guest]

I am having problems with my doctor now. I have type 2, which is

not controlled by meds. I was on insulin until Nov, and my doc took

me off and put me on glucophage, Im now on 2000mg glucophage and

30mg actos, plus I use a sliding scale of regular insulin and take

NPH insulin at night. I switched doctors because she was only in

from 1-5 on Thursdays. I got an appointment with another doc on

March 17. On Friday, I went to ER because of a kidney stone. The

doc on call called a urologist and he told me to call his office on

Monday to set up an appointment. I called the office and can't get

in until next Tuesday, the 14th. I called my doctor because I have

to have a referral to see the urologist and my doc won't give me a

referral until he sees me on the 17th, which means I have to cancel

my appointment with the urologist.

Last night, I started having problems again, from another kidney

stone. I called my doc to try to get an appointment and they can't

see me until next week. So that means that I can't see the

urologist for a few more weeks. The doc told me that if I was in

that much pain, to go to the ER, but that does no good, because they

can't do anything for me except give me pain meds that I already

have. It is so frustrating, when you need a doc when you are sick,

you can't get in with one. Thanks for letting me vent.

Mindy

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Mindy wrote:

> I am having problems with my doctor now. I have type 2, which is

> not controlled by meds. I was on insulin until Nov, and my doc took

> me off and put me on glucophage, Im now on 2000mg glucophage and

> 30mg actos, plus I use a sliding scale of regular insulin and take

> NPH insulin at night. I switched doctors because she was only in

> from 1-5 on Thursdays. I got an appointment with another doc on

> March 17. On Friday, I went to ER because of a kidney stone. The

> doc on call called a urologist and he told me to call his office on

> Monday to set up an appointment. I called the office and can't get

> in until next Tuesday, the 14th. I called my doctor because I have

> to have a referral to see the urologist and my doc won't give me a

> referral until he sees me on the 17th, which means I have to cancel

> my appointment with the urologist.

>

> Last night, I started having problems again, from another kidney

> stone. I called my doc to try to get an appointment and they can't

> see me until next week. So that means that I can't see the

> urologist for a few more weeks. The doc told me that if I was in

> that much pain, to go to the ER, but that does no good, because they

> can't do anything for me except give me pain meds that I already

> have. It is so frustrating, when you need a doc when you are sick,

> you can't get in with one. Thanks for letting me vent.

>

> Mindy

>

As a veteran of both diabetes and kidney stones, I would suggest do

everything possible to get the kidney stones taken care of ASAP. The

pain can be ongoing and debilitating and taking powerful painkillers for

an extended period can be dangerous.

Don't let your doctors dictate your life. Scream and yell until someone

takes care of you. You are the one paying the bill, not them.

Remember, they work for you.

wendell

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Mindy wrote:

> I am having problems with my doctor now. I have type 2, which is

> not controlled by meds. I was on insulin until Nov, and my doc took

> me off and put me on glucophage, Im now on 2000mg glucophage and

> 30mg actos, plus I use a sliding scale of regular insulin and take

> NPH insulin at night. I switched doctors because she was only in

> from 1-5 on Thursdays. I got an appointment with another doc on

> March 17. On Friday, I went to ER because of a kidney stone. The

> doc on call called a urologist and he told me to call his office on

> Monday to set up an appointment. I called the office and can't get

> in until next Tuesday, the 14th. I called my doctor because I have

> to have a referral to see the urologist and my doc won't give me a

> referral until he sees me on the 17th, which means I have to cancel

> my appointment with the urologist.

>

> Last night, I started having problems again, from another kidney

> stone. I called my doc to try to get an appointment and they can't

> see me until next week. So that means that I can't see the

> urologist for a few more weeks. The doc told me that if I was in

> that much pain, to go to the ER, but that does no good, because they

> can't do anything for me except give me pain meds that I already

> have. It is so frustrating, when you need a doc when you are sick,

> you can't get in with one. Thanks for letting me vent.

>

> Mindy

>

As a veteran of both diabetes and kidney stones, I would suggest do

everything possible to get the kidney stones taken care of ASAP. The

pain can be ongoing and debilitating and taking powerful painkillers for

an extended period can be dangerous.

Don't let your doctors dictate your life. Scream and yell until someone

takes care of you. You are the one paying the bill, not them.

Remember, they work for you.

wendell

[Guest guest]

Mindy wrote:

> I am having problems with my doctor now. I have type 2, which is

> not controlled by meds. I was on insulin until Nov, and my doc took

> me off and put me on glucophage, Im now on 2000mg glucophage and

> 30mg actos, plus I use a sliding scale of regular insulin and take

> NPH insulin at night. I switched doctors because she was only in

> from 1-5 on Thursdays. I got an appointment with another doc on

> March 17. On Friday, I went to ER because of a kidney stone. The

> doc on call called a urologist and he told me to call his office on

> Monday to set up an appointment. I called the office and can't get

> in until next Tuesday, the 14th. I called my doctor because I have

> to have a referral to see the urologist and my doc won't give me a

> referral until he sees me on the 17th, which means I have to cancel

> my appointment with the urologist.

>

> Last night, I started having problems again, from another kidney

> stone. I called my doc to try to get an appointment and they can't

> see me until next week. So that means that I can't see the

> urologist for a few more weeks. The doc told me that if I was in

> that much pain, to go to the ER, but that does no good, because they

> can't do anything for me except give me pain meds that I already

> have. It is so frustrating, when you need a doc when you are sick,

> you can't get in with one. Thanks for letting me vent.

>

> Mindy

>

As a veteran of both diabetes and kidney stones, I would suggest do

everything possible to get the kidney stones taken care of ASAP. The

pain can be ongoing and debilitating and taking powerful painkillers for

an extended period can be dangerous.

Don't let your doctors dictate your life. Scream and yell until someone

takes care of you. You are the one paying the bill, not them.

Remember, they work for you.

wendell

[Guest guest]

I deal with doctors day in and day out for 4 of us. My approach is to be

knowledgeable and not back down when they try to pat me on the head and

say " now, now things will be ok " I take notes with my questions written

on them. I ask for documentation from all test results so that I can

research it further on the web. I call they offices frequently with

questions, concerns or to give an update on how a new med may be

working. I also try to always say something positive about the how

professional the staff treats me . I let them know i truly appreciate

them taking the the time to respond to my calls.

On the rare occasion that i really feel the doctor is just not worthy of

my trust I change doctors but before i do I make sure I let his office

know why, stating facts and not getting all emotional.

Just recently I had a doctor tell me that he was afraid of my foster son

(my foster son is mentally retarded and is in a wheelchair) so obviously

this is not the doctor I want for him. I changed doctors. When I called

the former doctor's office i asked them to let the doctor know i

appreciated his honesty but under the circumstances i felt this would

hinder my foster son from receiving quality care.

Mimi

ERWachter@... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 3/8/2006 12:57:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> weholland@... writes:

>

> Don't let your doctors dictate your life. Scream and yell until

> someone

> takes care of you. You are the one paying the bill, not them.

> Remember, they work for you.

>

>

> Doctors may work for us, but they can also refuse to work for us.

> Screaming

> and yelling does not always get the best results.

>

> hugs

> Eunice

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Eunice,

If a dr does fire us for not being compliant to their wishes b/c

we are trying to take care of our body and know that the way

that dr may handle a situation may not be the best for us is

actually a blessing in disguise.

I had a dr fire me from his practice b/c we couldn't communicate

but it was a blessing for me b/c I have a better gyn.

And this dr that fired me tried to tell me to jump up and down

and scream at the insurance company to get them to cover the

medication I was on at the time for my endometriosis. Tried to

tell me that the insurance companies listen better to the

patient than the dr and that was not true and I knew it. In the

time just before I left (thanks to his firing me) that dr I

reported that office to the insurance company I had about how

disorganized the office was. Funny thing was, that in spite of

that being the case the staff was nicer to me than the dr

himself was.

The dr I have now treating my endometriosis is a highly

organized person and appreciate that her office is so highly

organized. B/c of my training as a Medical Secretary, I can

always tell when an office is highly disorganized.

But I agree that screaming and yelling doesn't work at all to

get what you want but it's hard not to do sometimes when they

are already upsetting you.

Also, every time a patient refuses to be treated a certain way

they often have a reason for being non-compliant and that dr

should state that reason in the chart. I learned about this

from when I had been working at one of the hospitals here back

in 2002 before my endometriosis kept me from staying at that

job.

Mindy, I would definitely call the office back and tell them

that you can't wait til next week to be seen by your PCP to get

a referral to Urology, and that you can't wait that long to see

a Urologist.

Pls feel free to e-mail me privately any time.

Daughter of Type 2 Insulin Dependent Diabetic,

Kristy

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[Guest guest]

Eunice,

If a dr does fire us for not being compliant to their wishes b/c

we are trying to take care of our body and know that the way

that dr may handle a situation may not be the best for us is

actually a blessing in disguise.

I had a dr fire me from his practice b/c we couldn't communicate

but it was a blessing for me b/c I have a better gyn.

And this dr that fired me tried to tell me to jump up and down

and scream at the insurance company to get them to cover the

medication I was on at the time for my endometriosis. Tried to

tell me that the insurance companies listen better to the

patient than the dr and that was not true and I knew it. In the

time just before I left (thanks to his firing me) that dr I

reported that office to the insurance company I had about how

disorganized the office was. Funny thing was, that in spite of

that being the case the staff was nicer to me than the dr

himself was.

The dr I have now treating my endometriosis is a highly

organized person and appreciate that her office is so highly

organized. B/c of my training as a Medical Secretary, I can

always tell when an office is highly disorganized.

But I agree that screaming and yelling doesn't work at all to

get what you want but it's hard not to do sometimes when they

are already upsetting you.

Also, every time a patient refuses to be treated a certain way

they often have a reason for being non-compliant and that dr

should state that reason in the chart. I learned about this

from when I had been working at one of the hospitals here back

in 2002 before my endometriosis kept me from staying at that

job.

Mindy, I would definitely call the office back and tell them

that you can't wait til next week to be seen by your PCP to get

a referral to Urology, and that you can't wait that long to see

a Urologist.

Pls feel free to e-mail me privately any time.

Daughter of Type 2 Insulin Dependent Diabetic,

Kristy

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Eunice,

If a dr does fire us for not being compliant to their wishes b/c

we are trying to take care of our body and know that the way

that dr may handle a situation may not be the best for us is

actually a blessing in disguise.

I had a dr fire me from his practice b/c we couldn't communicate

but it was a blessing for me b/c I have a better gyn.

And this dr that fired me tried to tell me to jump up and down

and scream at the insurance company to get them to cover the

medication I was on at the time for my endometriosis. Tried to

tell me that the insurance companies listen better to the

patient than the dr and that was not true and I knew it. In the

time just before I left (thanks to his firing me) that dr I

reported that office to the insurance company I had about how

disorganized the office was. Funny thing was, that in spite of

that being the case the staff was nicer to me than the dr

himself was.

The dr I have now treating my endometriosis is a highly

organized person and appreciate that her office is so highly

organized. B/c of my training as a Medical Secretary, I can

always tell when an office is highly disorganized.

But I agree that screaming and yelling doesn't work at all to

get what you want but it's hard not to do sometimes when they

are already upsetting you.

Also, every time a patient refuses to be treated a certain way

they often have a reason for being non-compliant and that dr

should state that reason in the chart. I learned about this

from when I had been working at one of the hospitals here back

in 2002 before my endometriosis kept me from staying at that

job.

Mindy, I would definitely call the office back and tell them

that you can't wait til next week to be seen by your PCP to get

a referral to Urology, and that you can't wait that long to see

a Urologist.

Pls feel free to e-mail me privately any time.

Daughter of Type 2 Insulin Dependent Diabetic,

Kristy

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

When I was at the emergency room on Friday, the doc on call called a

urologist and he said for me to call this week to make an

appointment. When I called the office, the receptionist told me, very

rudely I might add, that he doesn't really have time to see new

patients, so she didn't know what she could do. I told her that maybe

she should discuss that with her boss the doctor and tell him that he

needs to stop telling patients in the ER to come see him. She said,

well he just doesn't know how busy he really is. I tried to get in

with another urologist, I called 4 offices within 75 miles of me and

none of them could see me within the next week, so I am stuck at that

office.

Mindy

[Guest guest]

When I was at the emergency room on Friday, the doc on call called a

urologist and he said for me to call this week to make an

appointment. When I called the office, the receptionist told me, very

rudely I might add, that he doesn't really have time to see new

patients, so she didn't know what she could do. I told her that maybe

she should discuss that with her boss the doctor and tell him that he

needs to stop telling patients in the ER to come see him. She said,

well he just doesn't know how busy he really is. I tried to get in

with another urologist, I called 4 offices within 75 miles of me and

none of them could see me within the next week, so I am stuck at that

office.

Mindy

[Guest guest]

When I was at the emergency room on Friday, the doc on call called a

urologist and he said for me to call this week to make an

appointment. When I called the office, the receptionist told me, very

rudely I might add, that he doesn't really have time to see new

patients, so she didn't know what she could do. I told her that maybe

she should discuss that with her boss the doctor and tell him that he

needs to stop telling patients in the ER to come see him. She said,

well he just doesn't know how busy he really is. I tried to get in

with another urologist, I called 4 offices within 75 miles of me and

none of them could see me within the next week, so I am stuck at that

office.

Mindy

[Guest guest]

Amen Eunice. There is no reason you can't communicate with your doctor or

their staff in a sane ans civil manner. IF that doesn't work, find another

doctor. In the long run, you will be much happier.

You can be assertive without being rude. In the long run you will have a

better WORKING relationship with them. Whether you like it or not, they

really work for the insurance company, since they are the party which pays

(at least pays the largest share)... I mean, don't you get paid by the

people you work for? As nice as this concept seems, if you work for Perkins

waiting tables, you would probably have a real issue with the first jerk who

walked in and sat in your section and acted like a jerk, screaming and

yelling and demanding things (and think of all the stories about people who

then do nasty things to the food these types of customers order).

It really pays to treat them with the respect you want to be treated with.

Mike

>

>

> In a message dated 3/8/2006 12:57:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> weholland@... writes:

>

> Don't let your doctors dictate your life. Scream and yell until someone

> takes care of you. You are the one paying the bill, not them.

> Remember, they work for you.

>

>

> Doctors may work for us, but they can also refuse to work for us.

> Screaming

> and yelling does not always get the best results.

>

> hugs

> Eunice

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Amen Eunice. There is no reason you can't communicate with your doctor or

their staff in a sane ans civil manner. IF that doesn't work, find another

doctor. In the long run, you will be much happier.

You can be assertive without being rude. In the long run you will have a

better WORKING relationship with them. Whether you like it or not, they

really work for the insurance company, since they are the party which pays

(at least pays the largest share)... I mean, don't you get paid by the

people you work for? As nice as this concept seems, if you work for Perkins

waiting tables, you would probably have a real issue with the first jerk who

walked in and sat in your section and acted like a jerk, screaming and

yelling and demanding things (and think of all the stories about people who

then do nasty things to the food these types of customers order).

It really pays to treat them with the respect you want to be treated with.

Mike

>

>

> In a message dated 3/8/2006 12:57:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> weholland@... writes:

>

> Don't let your doctors dictate your life. Scream and yell until someone

> takes care of you. You are the one paying the bill, not them.

> Remember, they work for you.

>

>

> Doctors may work for us, but they can also refuse to work for us.

> Screaming

> and yelling does not always get the best results.

>

> hugs

> Eunice

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Amen Eunice. There is no reason you can't communicate with your doctor or

their staff in a sane ans civil manner. IF that doesn't work, find another

doctor. In the long run, you will be much happier.

You can be assertive without being rude. In the long run you will have a

better WORKING relationship with them. Whether you like it or not, they

really work for the insurance company, since they are the party which pays

(at least pays the largest share)... I mean, don't you get paid by the

people you work for? As nice as this concept seems, if you work for Perkins

waiting tables, you would probably have a real issue with the first jerk who

walked in and sat in your section and acted like a jerk, screaming and

yelling and demanding things (and think of all the stories about people who

then do nasty things to the food these types of customers order).

It really pays to treat them with the respect you want to be treated with.

Mike

>

>

> In a message dated 3/8/2006 12:57:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> weholland@... writes:

>

> Don't let your doctors dictate your life. Scream and yell until someone

> takes care of you. You are the one paying the bill, not them.

> Remember, they work for you.

>

>

> Doctors may work for us, but they can also refuse to work for us.

> Screaming

> and yelling does not always get the best results.

>

> hugs

> Eunice

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Does your insurance company have a process to work with specialists outside

of a referal?

I've had kidney stones and went to the ER and was in such pain I was

admitted... they did lithotripsy later that evening (around 5 pm) and I

spent the night in the hospital.

Mike

>

>

> Last night, I started having problems again, from another kidney

> stone. I called my doc to try to get an appointment and they can't

> see me until next week. So that means that I can't see the

> urologist for a few more weeks. The doc told me that if I was in

> that much pain, to go to the ER, but that does no good, because they

> can't do anything for me except give me pain meds that I already

> have. It is so frustrating, when you need a doc when you are sick,

> you can't get in with one. Thanks for letting me vent.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Does your insurance company have a process to work with specialists outside

of a referal?

I've had kidney stones and went to the ER and was in such pain I was

admitted... they did lithotripsy later that evening (around 5 pm) and I

spent the night in the hospital.

Mike

>

>

> Last night, I started having problems again, from another kidney

> stone. I called my doc to try to get an appointment and they can't

> see me until next week. So that means that I can't see the

> urologist for a few more weeks. The doc told me that if I was in

> that much pain, to go to the ER, but that does no good, because they

> can't do anything for me except give me pain meds that I already

> have. It is so frustrating, when you need a doc when you are sick,

> you can't get in with one. Thanks for letting me vent.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Does your insurance company have a process to work with specialists outside

of a referal?

I've had kidney stones and went to the ER and was in such pain I was

admitted... they did lithotripsy later that evening (around 5 pm) and I

spent the night in the hospital.

Mike

>

>

> Last night, I started having problems again, from another kidney

> stone. I called my doc to try to get an appointment and they can't

> see me until next week. So that means that I can't see the

> urologist for a few more weeks. The doc told me that if I was in

> that much pain, to go to the ER, but that does no good, because they

> can't do anything for me except give me pain meds that I already

> have. It is so frustrating, when you need a doc when you are sick,

> you can't get in with one. Thanks for letting me vent.

>

>